Child Predators Could Face Execution

[Mr. JOSHUA]

Child predators could face execution

Senate deal would allow death for repeat offenders
By Associated Press
April 19, 2007


AUSTIN - Backers of a Senate bill to toughen punishment for child-*** offenders said they've reached a deal that would permit the death penalty for offenders who repeatedly prey on children.

The compromise bill, which was distributed to Senate members on Tuesday, would allow the death penalty only for those twice convicted of raping a child 13 or younger. It also boosts mandatory minimum sentences for a variety of *** crimes against children.

''The goals here were pretty simple: protect children, send a message to child predators. Texas is not going to tolerate these kinds of heinous crimes,'' said Rich Parsons, a spokesman for Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, a leader of the charge for tougher penalties for child molesters.

The House passed its version of the bill, dubbed Jessica's Law, last month. It carries a minimum of 25 years to life in prison on a first conviction and possibly the death penalty for a second offense.

The law is named after Jessica Lunsford, a Florida girl who was abducted and killed. More than a dozen states have passed versions of Jessica's Law to crack down on *** offenders and Gov. Rick Perry has deemed passage of a child *** offender bill a legislative emergency.

Staffers of Sen. Bob Deuell, R-Greenville, the bill's sponsor, said the Senate could take up the compromise bill as soon as Thursday.
''The only thing we impose the death penalty for is two (penetration) aggravated ****** assaults of a child,'' Deuell said.

''There's a trigger in there that if the U.S. Supreme Court rules that the death penalty for nonmurder is unconstitutional, then everything will revert back to life without parole.''

The compromise tones down ***-offender penalties initially supported by Dewhurst and Deuell. The original bill called for mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years for a wide variety of *** crimes against children. A second offense for any of those could have resulted in the death penalty.

The compromise bill requires 25-year mandatory sentences only for first convictions of rape of a young child. It also requires many convicted predators to serve 75 percent of their sentences.

The proposal increases ****** assault of a child from a second- to first-degree felony, pushing minimum sentencing from two to 10 years. A second conviction could bring life without parole.
The bill also increases punishment indecency with a child and for possession of large amounts of child ****ography.

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[MG 3]

Finally some action!!

[wicked_hind]

Great news, that'll make those sickos think twice.

[Count Lippe]

didn't help with murderers, so it won't help with this child molesters either...:|

[Hollis]

didn't help with murderers, so it won't help with this child molesters either...:|


It may not help when it comes to preventing a crime from happening but it sure cuts down on the recidivism.

Edited to add, when a preditor of children gets into the legal system, their victims can number into the 100's.

[Count Lippe]

that's why you have to invest more resources in programs that help catching them early, instead of threatening them with the electric chair, after they've traumatized, or killed so many victims...

[Hollis]

that's why you have to invest more resources in programs that help catching them early, instead of threatening them with the electric chair, after they've traumatized, or killed so many victims...


In the states a lot of effort is done to do this. I don't think the threat works either. It's benefit would be they can not go back out on the street and strike again.

There are treatment facilities for ****** offenders, it is questionable as to it's success/failures. Schools have programs for kids for awareness along with teachers who are required by law to report suspected cases of abuse.

[Firetxmi]

Schools have programs for kids for awareness along with teachers who are required by law to report suspected cases of abuse.

My aunt is a school nurse and has reported abuse many, many times. The problem is, rarely is anything done about it. Last I talked to her, she said "I have 5 kids in my school right now who I am certain are being abused, yet I have reported every incident I can and the state does not seem to want to do anything about it."

[Martial]

My aunt is a school nurse and has reported abuse many, many times. The problem is, rarely is anything done about it. Last I talked to her, she said "I have 5 kids in my school right now who I am certain are being abused, yet I have reported every incident I can and the state does not seem to want to do anything about it."

Your aunt needs to push harder.

[Firetxmi]

Your aunt needs to push harder.

Dude, she says she puts in a Child Protective Service report almost weekly, has brought the parents in, has told every administrator who will listen, gone to the police etc.. Legally, there isn't much more she can do. Even those legally obligated to report (anyone who works with children- camp counselors, paramedics, doctors, school personnel, etc) have their hands tied at some point.

[Trouble]

It may not help when it comes to preventing a crime from happening but it sure cuts down on the recidivism.

Edited to add, when a predator of children gets into the legal system, their victims can number into the 100's.

You are very correct on this point. The statistics say that 1 in every 2, (50%) of child predators will repeat that crime again during their lives's. If I remember correctly and if I am wrong someone is free to correct me, the other 50% of child predators, will repeat at a rate of 1 in 25. This bill is a major positive step forward in confronting a crime that leaves its victims scared, with medical problems and in many cases dysfunctional for life. And this may make some folks that are on the fence about doing this think twice, and that is a good thing.

[Laworkerbee]

didn't help with murderers, so it won't help with this child molesters either...:|

Who cares...

I don't want to share air with these people and for sure don't want to spend $45,000-$60,000 a year for them to live in prison.

For everyone of these scumbags we could have a kid in college with full tuition paid.

[Macs.]

Who cares...

I don't want to share air with these people and for sure don't want to spend $45,000-$60,000 a year for them to live in prison.

For everyone of these scumbags we could have a kid in college with full tuition paid.

I heared that a execution (Including court costs etc etc.) is more expensive than a life in Prison.

[Mr. JOSHUA]

Who cares...

I don't want to share air with these people and for sure don't want to spend $45,000-$60,000 a year for them to live in prison.

For everyone of these scumbags we could have a kid in college with full tuition paid.


.........X2


I wish I could have said that.

[Laworkerbee]

I heared that a execution (Including court costs etc etc.) is more expensive than a life in Prison.

No but they are VERY expensive. something equal to 10 years of incarceration.

Call it $500,000 maybe?

[Daniel San]

First off, I have nothing against taking a scumbag's life for having ruined the life of a child.

Criminals don't think of the possible consequences of their actions and I'm pretty convinced they are sure they won't be caught.

Notwithstanding the lack of dissuasive effect capital punishment has, someone having molested a child deserves to die.

However, after the execution, there is very little one can do if the prisoner was wrongfully convicted. Even with the advances of DNA identification, there will always be that very small possibility that a person guilty of a crime is innocent. Because of the risk of ending an innocent's life, I cannot accept capital punishment, even for repeat offenders.

[praetorian6]

It may not help when it comes to preventing a crime from happening but it sure cuts down on the recidivism.

QFT

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[JJC]

I think the bigger question we have to tackle is what creates these animals and has this become an epidemic of today's society or was it always the same? If we are looking for prevention I don't think we will find it in the death penalty. Is the death penalty in Texas cheaper than life in prison, because I know that in many states the chair is more expensive than life in prison.

[Calanen]

Execution is the only correct way to deal with child *** offenders. They never get better. They are cunning and manipulative of psychiatrists and caseworkers and abuse on average 100s of children in their lifetime. That may mean that 100s of people's lives are ruined, because this one sicko gets to stick around. Better that they are just executed. It can never happen in Australia (although it should) but in the USA, go to it.

[Laworkerbee]

You know it's just the guys that get out and do it again and again knowing full well from the psychiatrists they are mandated to see about the impact of the damage they have sown.

For that I despise them and really irks me that I have to share air with such people.

:|

[annihilation]

that's why you have to invest more resources in programs that help catching them early, instead of threatening them with the electric chair, after they've traumatized, or killed so many victims...


Yes we need to catch them early and execute them early. Saves everyone a headache.

[LaoSexMachine]

that's why you have to invest more resources in programs that help catching them early, instead of threatening them with the electric chair, after they've traumatized, or killed so many victims...

Can't arrest someone until theres a crime. Crime and punishment not crime and rehabilitation.

[Redmen]

I think that the sick part to the whole pedophile punishment is that they actually get released from prison. Some shrink says hes "reformed" and the pedophile is free. And yes usually he can keep his "urges" under control for some time, but sooner rather then later they start doing what they do.
As far as the death penalty goes i would support it, usually the victims life is ruined and in many cases the psychological trauma is just to bad and the whole ordeal ends up in a suicide.
But at least in the States you have longer prison tearms for these sickos here they usually get 7yrs which means they are out in 4, coz of good behaviour. The only thing probably that i miss from the socialist times when they would be strung up.

[Count Lippe]

Can't arrest someone until theres a crime. Crime and punishment not crime and rehabilitation.
i wasn't talking about rehabilitating those animals.
let's see. one of those guys gets caught and will be executed, but has abused 100 chidren, because he hasn't been caught earlier. This guy has been dealt with, but managed to destroy a hundred lives.

now let's imagine this guy is caught after the first time with the help of a propperly financed child protection programme, that deals with the case effectively and is locked away for good.
Most cases of abuse are not reported, and families rather decide to stay silent, because they don't want to be embarresed. or there are children abused by their own parents but don't report it. I'd rather spend the cash on sensibilizing children, society and authorities to take child abuse seriously and on getting involved early, to prevent further crimes.

Remove the bad weed before it grows to a tall tree and you have to get the axe. I hope you understand what I mean. ;)