Judge Dredd for real.

[shocker1]

Judge Recommends Bread, Water, Franklin-Strickland Fans For Inmates
"Tighten The Handcuffs" Says Judge Williams
posted April 20, 2007

Judge Walter Williams said Friday the Hamilton County Jail would be a different place if he was the warden.

He told a prisoner who he said was mouthing off to him that jail is too soft.

The former city judge who was filling in for General Sessions Court Judge Bob Moon, said, "I'd give you bread and water. There would be no air conditioning. I'd give you fans from Franklin-Strickland (Funeral Home)."

Judge Williams added, "If I was warden, I'd cut the budget. It would be $100 a year for food - month-old bread."

He said prisoners "need to bust some rocks."

The judge said prisoners "don't fear jail. It's home for them."

On the prisoner that had to admonish, he said, "Tighten up the handcuffs. He'd get scared. Put him in with that female impersonator. He'd get scared."rofl

When there was noise from the area where prisoners were awaiting their court appearances, Judge Williams told court officers, "Tell them to get quiet. They're just guests. They don't own anything. Guests just don't take over." woot
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_105881.asp

[mudbunny]

woot
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_105881.asp

The fact that they have cable and internet is an absolute joke. Put 'em in the yard and make them break rocks with little hammers.

[Dasein]

Would that sort of punishment keep guards and inmates safe? Would it make prisoners easy to manage? If prisoners are given hard labor and fed bread and water, what privileges can you take away as further punishment? How would such treatment help rehabilitate prisoners?

[shocker1]

Would that sort of punishment keep guards and inmates safe? Would it make prisoners easy to manage? If prisoners are given hard labor and fed bread and water, what privileges can you take away as further punishment? How would such treatment help rehabilitate prisoners?
Well considering they get great food, entertainment, plenty of illegal drugs, weight lifting.I find it very reasonable that a down on his luck has nothing criminal would seek out his next reservation for the Justice Hotel. Hard Labor should be used as payment to the state and their food should be a protein goo that supplies all nutrients and tastes like ass. maybe if we make it so unpleasant they will think twice before commiting crimes. The bread and water bit was overboard but I agree with his frustration and it is justified.

[Light Fighter]

Haha, rehabilitate. I'm sorry, but when you have people that no longer fear going to prison then you will never rehabilitate them. A lot of convicts once released end up back in prison because its a tax payer funded free ride. They dont have to work, they collect a (small) paycheck, they have tv and computers, and they get three meals a day. I know some hard working families in my area that dont have that. I am all for marching the prisoners out into the yard and having them break rocks. Prisoners are a burden on the country. They contribute nothing and expect everything.

[onefast93z28]

Had a buddy that worked Corrections in New Jersey, said you would see the same guys get arrested when it started getting cold but they would only commit a minor crime so they were out in the Spring....

[Ordie]

Bread and water punishment is still being applied in the US Navy.

It could be worst.

The accused could have faced Judge Roy Bean.

[Scrim]

kinda of reminds me of the sherif in AZ who has the prisoners living in tents, this is how it should be.

Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is
not one bit sympathetic He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and
they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes... so shut your damned mouths."
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/miracopjail.htm

[shocker1]

Bread and water punishment is still being applied in the US Navy.

It could be worst.

The accused could have faced Judge Roy Bean.
They could have faced the Judge that was absent. Judge Bob Moon put my cuz in jail for a week because he was drinking at Riverbend. Of course he was only 19 at the time. The judge asked him who got the beer for him(It was I that supplied:)). When my Cuz refused to say, a week in the slammer and 100hours of community service and a 1000 fine. I must say that worked, as he never drank at Riverbend again.

Just to clarify I bailed him out the next day. Had to put up my house.

[Mr. JOSHUA]

They could have faced the Judge that was absent. Judge Bob Moon put my cuz in jail for a week because he was drinking at Riverbend. Of course he was only 19 at the time. The judge asked him who got the beer for him(It was I that supplied:)). When my Cuz refused to say, a week in the slammer and 100hours of community service and a 1000 fine. I must say that worked, as he never drank at Riverbend again.

Just to clarify I bailed him out the next day. Had to put up my house.

You outlaw you!

[Abolith]

hard labbor would cut down of the trouble in prison too... make them so tired that all they want to do is get some sleep.

[WarriorMonk]

do this sort of extreme punishment like that and you have the ACLU and the UN human rights commission all over us...

at least do this for 99% positive convicted organized criminals.

[shocker1]

You outlaw you!
I know that was not a Christian thing to do. Thats when I pull out my Jew card and do what the hell I want.

[mudbunny]

I know that was not a Christian thing to do. Thats when I pull out my Jew card and do what the hell I want.

Oh, the jewish servitude joke possibilities are endless.

[nullterm]

Would that sort of punishment keep guards and inmates safe? Would it make prisoners easy to manage? If prisoners are given hard labor and fed bread and water, what privileges can you take away as further punishment? How would such treatment help rehabilitate prisoners?

Bigger rocks, smaller hammers.

[Calanen]

Haha, rehabilitate. I'm .

Rehabilitate was officially abandoned as a goal for Federal prison in the 1970s.

Chain gangs and work crews are the way to do things. But on the other side of things, as a prisoner who goes into jail for some small time crime, you are at risk of being bashed and killed, and anally raped, infected with AIDS. That's pretty harsh if you have done something dumb like possession or sale of drugs. Yes I know don't do the crime etc...but its a pretty harsh sentence, be bashed, perhaps killed, infected with AIDS because u were dealing weed for example. Young people especially do stupid things, and that is a very high price to pay.

A fine defaulter called Jamie Partlic in Australia was beaten so badly in prison he became severley mentally disabled. Thats a very high sentence for not paying your parking fines.

[Firetxmi]

Shocker, would you have bought the beer for him if they were serving bread and water at the jail, and had the funeral home fans blowin'?

[CPL Trevoga]

They could have faced the Judge that was absent. Judge Bob Moon put my cuz in jail for a week because he was drinking at Riverbend. Of course he was only 19 at the time. The judge asked him who got the beer for him(It was I that supplied:)). When my Cuz refused to say, a week in the slammer and 100hours of community service and a 1000 fine. I must say that worked, as he never drank at Riverbend again.

Just to clarify I bailed him out the next day. Had to put up my house.

That's a damn shame. A man can die for his country at 19, but he can not have a beer. Excuse my French, but f*ck that.

[shocker1]

Shocker, would you have bought the beer for him if they were serving bread and water at the jail, and had the funeral home fans blowin'?
I am not sure what kinda sarcastic jab that is. I would buy anybody a beer as long as I am at a nice drinking establishment and not in jail or at Church.

Edit: I see, yes I would still buy my 19 year old cuz a beer at Riverbend in spite of those draconian measures. Now had I known he would put him in a cell with a "female impersonator" there would only Coke and Kool-Aid for that boy. Wouldn't want anything bad like that to happen to him.

[Firetxmi]

I am not sure what kinda sarcastic jab that is. I would buy anybody a beer as long as I am at a nice drinking establishment and not in jail or at Church.

Edit: I see, yes I would still buy my 19 year old cuz a beer at Riverbend in spite of those draconian measures. Now had I known he would put him in a cell with a "female impersonator" there would only Coke and Kool-Aid for that boy. Wouldn't want anything bad like that to happen to him.

It wasn't meant to be personal, I just wanted to see if it really is a deterrent (which, even you just said- it isn't). Also, there are some draconian laws, should those who are arrested under those also suffer similar treatment? Should they have to break rocks?

[shocker1]

It wasn't meant to be personal, I just wanted to see if it really is a deterrent (which, even you just said- it isn't). Also, there are some draconian laws, should those who are arrested under those also suffer similar treatment? Should they have to break rocks?
Oh I did not take nothing personal. I understood sarcasm at first when I read but as you can see I understood after my brain had a second. However letting the real criminals enjoy a free ride for the sake of the poor soul who should not be there is not right at all. Punishment is just that and fluffing it up to make us on the outside feel better about it will not make the criminal feel bad about his deed at all. In fact he will feed off the sympathy.

As you said punishment did not deter my cousin and I from breaking the law. Punishment did prevent us from breaking it again. I had to sweat him talking and put up bond so that taught me a lesson about enabling my younger family members.

[sferrin]

Would that sort of punishment keep guards and inmates safe? Would it make prisoners easy to manage? If prisoners are given hard labor and fed bread and water, what privileges can you take away as further punishment? How would such treatment help rehabilitate prisoners?


You're looking at it all backwards. Have them busting rocks with forty-pound hammers all day and feed them soylent green with a nice view of the organ-doner building and reward them for GOOD behavior. Make them EARN their way out of the big house instead of giving them better conditions than some poor people who actually WORK for a living.

[California Joe]

I'll never forget my time in the penitentiary, got sent up for cutting the heads off parking meters.....

http://www.aellea.com/images/coolhandluke.jpg

[shocker1]

I'll never forget my time in the penitentiary, got sent up for cutting the heads off parking meters.....


Man that sucks. Over some nickels too.

[California Joe]

Well, that is where I first saw farmgirl so it wasn't all bad....:)

[RECON DOC]

Had a buddy that worked Corrections in New Jersey, said you would see the same guys get arrested when it started getting cold but they would only commit a minor crime so they were out in the Spring....

I have a buddy that works in the Connecticut Corrections system. He says one of the fringe benefits for the guards is that they get to cut to the head of the line for gang rapes.

Speaking of prisons, I visited Alcatraz last sunday. Creepy.

[Calanen]

I'll never forget my time in the penitentiary, got sent up for cutting the heads off parking meters.....



Seriously?

[gaz]

Seriously?

Joe's a natural born world shaker.

[California Joe]

You're right gazbert, sometimes nothin's a real cool hand.

[RECON DOC]

Shakin it heahh Boss.