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rem40xb
04-23-2007, 06:20 PM
Slain evangelists were tortured, says Turkish doctor
April 20, 2007


MALATYA, Turkey -- Three Protestants murdered at a Christian publishing house in Malatya, Turkey, were tortured for three hours before their assailants slit their throats, a press report said Friday, quoting one of the doctors involved in the grisly case.

Dr. Murat Ugras, a spokesman for the Turgut Ozal Medical center, told the daily Hurriyet of hospital surgeons' fruitless efforts to save Ugur Yuksel, one of the three victims of the massacre at the Zirve (summit) publishing house, which distributed Christian literature.

"He had scores of knife cuts on his thighs, his ********s, his rectum, and his back," Ugras said. "His fingers were sliced to the bone.

"It is obvious that these wounds had been inflicted to torture him," he said.

The two others who were killed, Necati Aydin, pastor of Malatya's tiny Protestant community, and German Tilmann Geske, a Malatya resident with his wife and three children since 2003, were also tortured, press reports said.

The abuse lasted for three hours as the five men detained at the crime scene interrogated the three on their missionary activities, they said.

"We tied their hands and feet and later gagged them," the mass daily Sabah quoted one of the suspects as telling police. "Emre slit their throats," said the youth, who was not named, referring to Emre Gunaydin, the alleged leader of the gang, who is at the same hospital in serious condition after jumping out of the publishers' third floor office in a bid to flee police.

Gunaydin, 19, had reportedly made several visits beforehand to the publishing house to gain the confidence of the people working there, newspapers said.

The daily Radikal said that the German was the first to die and the two Turks were slaughtered only when police arrived at the door after receiving a call from a member of the Protestant community who grew suspicious when he found the office door locked.

Proselytizing is not banned in Muslim, secular Turkey, but is generally viewed with suspicion.

Newspapers linked the Malatya massacre to other recent attacks against minorities in Turkey, including the murder last year in Trabzon of Italian Catholic priest Andrea Santoro and the assassination in Istanbul in January of Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink.

The reports said that the killers were believed to be members of a cell of nationalist-Islamist fanatics recently set up in Malatya and similar to one based in Trabzon that has been blamed for the Dink murder.

Newspapers also said that three of the five main suspects - police have detained 10 people in all - were taken into custody two days before the killings for shooting air guns in an empty lot, but were released after paying a fine.

Geske's wife Suzanna, meanwhile, told a television channel that she "forgives" her husband's killers and that she intends to stay on in Malatya, where her husband will be buried.

The killings shocked Turkey and were strongly condemned by the international community, prompting Germany, which holds the rotating presidency of the European Union Turkey is seeking to join, to call on Ankara to take greater measures to protect religious freedoms.


http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20070420-064724-9427r

Bulletproof
04-23-2007, 09:03 PM
Ohhh Islamists? Again... Wonder when they will finally quit those middle age mentalities.

FillTheVoid
04-23-2007, 10:31 PM
True martyrdome.

SBL
04-23-2007, 10:33 PM
God bless them.

MapleLeafUp
04-23-2007, 10:40 PM
I think it's time for people to fight these islamo facists gun to gun knife to knife. I'm sick and tired of hearing about innocent people dying by the hands of these sickos.

tyovan
04-23-2007, 11:18 PM
I doubt this'll help Turkey's EU prospects...

Dr_ColoSSus
04-24-2007, 01:07 AM
I doubt this'll help Turkey's EU prospects...


What prospects? i don't see this happening in our lifetime.

Mirror
04-24-2007, 01:27 AM
Honour killing is a big problem. Turkey is one big cocktail of islamist, nationalist, leftist and military. EU-entry is a long way ahead.

AgentX
04-24-2007, 04:31 AM
What inhuman creatures!

Argyll
04-24-2007, 05:17 AM
I think it's time for people to fight these islamo facists gun to gun knife to knife. I'm sick and tired of hearing about innocent people dying by the hands of these sickos.

So you'll be down at the nearest recruiting office this afernoon, to volunteer your service to the Military then?.......or if you've served before you'll re-enlist?

Wodan
04-24-2007, 09:55 AM
So you'll be down at the nearest recruiting office this afernoon, to volunteer your service to the Military then?.......or if you've served before you'll re-enlist?

I think he talks about more undogmatic ways on grassroots level in his community

but.. no matter what he plans to do against them, it can just be a good deed in the face of god :)

Clearday-TRForce
04-24-2007, 10:22 AM
What inhuman creatures!


+1 very sad news indeed... arrogant,ignorant heavy islamists. I had seen that kind of news in 1990s made by some Iran hizbullah terrorists. This is the another one...


RIP to Evangelists.

Atlantic Friend
04-24-2007, 10:37 AM
So you'll be down at the nearest recruiting office this afernoon, to volunteer your service to the Military then?.......or if you've served before you'll re-enlist?

I was thinking "who are these people who need to do all this" myself... p-)

kamaz
04-24-2007, 10:50 AM
i refuse to believe that this was an isolated event by a few nutjobs. theres at least some level of support for these scumbags amongst the population.

when the armenian publisher was killed by that kid, the police was congratulating the killer, caught on tape. disgusting.

Turkey should def be barred from EU. You dont see anything similar happening in the christian or any other non-muslim world. When's the last time you heard of christian beheadings of muslims or others? Never.

turkey needs a lot, lot of reforms, most importantly with regards to their religion and their over nationalistic attitude.

Kaapeli
04-24-2007, 11:11 AM
Turkey should def be barred from EU. You dont see anything similar happening in the christian or any other non-muslim world. When's the last time you heard of christian beheadings of muslims or others? Never.

Well actually there have been quite a few torture murders and massmurders in non-muslim nations committed by religious cults including some that claimed to be Christian or derived from Christianity and practically every single other religion. Then there's of course the ever present Satan worshippers who practice quite gruesome stuff that pop up in the news from time to time.

Heinemann
04-24-2007, 12:30 PM
So these 3 men were tortured and killed for spreading the good news...
You can tell me all this hu ha about islam being tolarent and peaceful towards other religions but I think its all bull****.

FillTheVoid
04-24-2007, 12:40 PM
Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5:10

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Revelation 1:7

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of the things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:9-11

kamaz
04-24-2007, 12:48 PM
blessed are those that help and defend themselves.

- common sense 5:16

EMPEROR ATTiLA
04-24-2007, 12:53 PM
dear friends..

unfotunately every country has their own bloody maniacs...

l should say all of Turkish nation hates this kind murders...

these killers are very very little minority...

all of them will be punished heaviest ones.24 years or life jail..

RİP for all innocent people..

FillTheVoid
04-24-2007, 12:56 PM
1 Corinthians 2:19 No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love him.

kamaz
04-24-2007, 12:58 PM
Bored are those that taketh old scriptures and posteth them unto a messageboard for no apparent reason. - Some Dude 1:234:456

rem40xb
04-24-2007, 05:25 PM
dear friends..

unfotunately every country has their own bloody maniacs...

l should say all of Turkish nation hates this kind murders...

these killers are very very little minority...

all of them will be punished heaviest ones.24 years or life jail..

RİP for all innocent people..


Very little minority? Meaning from 70 million Turks how many are they?the 0,1% is still 70000