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vinny_121_ND
04-26-2007, 06:01 PM
LONDON (AFP) - Britain's army chiefs are reviewing plans to send Prince Harry to Iraq (http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?p=Iraq) amid fears he could be targeted, officials said Thursday, but friends downplayed warnings he may quit if prevented from going.
The Ministry of Defence said the 22-year-old's imminent deployment was under "constant consideration," after a newspaper report said army bosses were reviewing the decision amid a spike in British deaths in Iraq.
The Sun newspaper said the second lieutenant could be stopped from being sent to southern Iraq because insurgents might try to kidnap or kill him, putting fellow troops in extra danger.
Such a decision would likely infuriate the prince, third-in-line to the British throne, who has said there would be "no way" he would train to become an officer then sit around while his soldiers fought.
Harry is known as Cornet Wales in the Blues and Royals regiment of the Household Cavalry, in which he is responsible for 11 soldiers and four Scimitar reconnaissance vehicles.
A Household Cavalry source warned that Harry would resign if he could not serve on the front line.
The source told Britain's domestic Press Association: "This is what he signed up for and if he doesn't go, he will sign off and leave. He joined the army for a bit of excitement and for him to be told he's not going would be awful.
"There will be bad feeling in the regiment if they stop him," he added.
a But the prince's friends told the BBC that though Harry would be "very disappointed" if he was switched to a desk job, he would not quit the army.
Royal aides said: "Harry's a grown-up and he'll take whatever the decision is, but he wants to go.
"He would be extremely disappointed but to say he would quit is way too strong."
The MoD confirmed in February that Harry would be deployed to Iraq. His six-month tour was expected to start in May.
April has been one of the deadliest months for British forces in Iraq since the US-led invasion of March 2003. To date 11 lives have been lost, including a corporal doing Harry's armoured reconnaissance troop leader job.
The Sun said the army was reconsidering his deployment. "It's very complicated," a source told the tabloid. "No one wants to gift a PR victory to the insurgents by withdrawing him.
"But there is a groundswell of opinion across senior ranks now that to allow Harry to serve in the open with his men will lead to an inevitable disaster."
Citing militant sources, The Observer newspaper said Sunday that Iraqi militia groups had drawn up detailed plans to seize Harry as a hostage.
An MoD spokesman told the weekly: "The bad guys know that he's coming and we expect that they will consider him a high-profile scalp."
In an interview to mark his 21st birthday in September 2005, Harry said: "There's no way I'm going to put myself through Sandhurst (the elite military academy) and then sit on my arse back home while my boys are out fighting for their country."
Harry would become the first British royal to see active service since his uncle Prince Andrew flew helicopters in the 1982 Falklands War with Argentina.
Prime Minister ng me do the job I am being paid to do."" type="hidden"> Tony Blair (http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?p=Tony+Blair) refused to be drawn, saying it was "a matter for the army."
Major General Julian Thompson said he would resign if he was in Harry's position and was held back from fighting.
"He is in an armoured vehicle and would be extremely difficult to spot, and difficult to kidnap," he said.
"If he doesn't go we are saying he is not a proper soldier.
"If it were me I would resign my position on the grounds that they are not letting me do the job I am being paid to do."

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MoFo
04-26-2007, 06:03 PM
I feel for Harry, ****ty situation he's been put in and If he went to Iraq it would only mean bad news for either himself and his men, but hes right. This is the Army and he's already stated If he cant fight with his men and sit on his hands hes going to quit and fair play to him.

Why dont they Claim to keep him back but send him? I highly doubt it would be possible but their must be alternatives to minimise the possibility of more attacks on British troops etc If he goes.

vinny_121_ND
04-26-2007, 06:13 PM
remember that thread awhile ago saying SAS will protect prince harry if he is on the front lines? K, back on track, Harry has every right to turn in his papers if he's not going to serve along the men he trained with. It will screw up unit cohesion if he doesn't go because everybody will be thinking, who's the substitute, and will he get us killed?

PaulClift
04-26-2007, 06:33 PM
His uncle went to the falklands and did a good job, but then he is going to be an entirely different situation to being in a helo in the south atlantic, could it cause even more danger to his unit by having him there as a prize target? Got to feel for the guy though, must really suck badly.

Calanen
04-26-2007, 06:47 PM
The Queen has personally said he is to go, so if they want to change plans they need to convince her Majesty. It would probably be better to say he is going to Iraq, do a switch and send him to Afghanistan. Then have the jihadis running around looking for someone who is not there.

vinny_121_ND
04-26-2007, 06:56 PM
The Queen has personally said he is to go, so if they want to change plans they need to convince her Majesty. It would probably be better to say he is going to Iraq, do a switch and send him to Afghanistan. Then have the jihadis running around looking for someone who is not there.

What about the press? Basra will have BBC coverage day and nite on how Harry's doing. It will be like one huge reality tv show. Although that idea is ideal, it won't fly unless you remove the media element to confirm his whereabouts.

Calanen
04-26-2007, 07:13 PM
What about the press? Basra will have BBC coverage day and nite on how Harry's doing. It will be like one huge reality tv show. Although that idea is ideal, it won't fly unless you remove the media element to confirm his whereabouts.

That can be dealt with. If they wanted to lock down all information on Harry and make it 'sensitive' and 'restricted' they would have no trouble doing it. Perhaps also having Rupert Murdoch and some of the other media magnates in for a quiet chat at No 10 to say 'Lay off' might be a good idea too.

Telegraphing in advance where Harry is going just puts everyone at risk, including him. Better just to send him where ever he is going to go, not tell anyone, or if they are to tell anyone, tell them misinformation. Make the press work for us instead of against us.

WarriorMonk
04-26-2007, 07:53 PM
Why don't you send Harry to Afghanistan - aren't there British troops in Afghanistan?

PaulClift
04-26-2007, 07:56 PM
Why don't you send Harry to Afghanistan - aren't there British troops in Afghanistan?

Its not just him going though is it, its his unit who he has trained with and no doubt wants to serve with.

IraGlacialis
04-26-2007, 08:17 PM
What about the press? Basra will have BBC coverage day and nite on how Harry's doing. It will be like one huge reality tv show. Although that idea is ideal, it won't fly unless you remove the media element to confirm his whereabouts.
I doubt that they will constantly report on him and his exact location. Plus, he in a helmet wouldn't look that different than the other soldiers.
If they do, and it's their reporting that gives away his position and gets him killed or kidnapped, I don't see whatever media outlet doing the reporting faring well with the British public afterwards. It would be PR suicide.

Calanen
04-26-2007, 08:59 PM
Its not just him going though is it, its his unit who he has trained with and no doubt wants to serve with.

No doubt - but they've fubared that by telling everyone on the planet exactly what he is doing and where he is going. Misinformation is the key here, and Harry can still serve. Canning his deployment completely I don't think is good. If anyone can truly be bothered, the MOD can organise it so he can go and no one knows where he is, or tell them misinformation about where he is, even do some fake press clips to release to the public. Its not that hard.

oldsoak
04-27-2007, 03:44 AM
Calanen might have a point here - as much as I say treat him like any other squaddie, he's not an ordinary squaddie insofar of what he represents. Therefore a bit of misinformation or "no comment" would be wiser course of action.