Voter Fatigue

[shocker1]

I myself am tired of all the Presidential candidates so far as I think most Americans are. Hillary will not stand the test of the microscope over such a long period before the election. Obama runs the risk of becoming stale to all but ethnic driven voters. Then my own party's three "top" choices seem either fake or desperate. I see room at the end of this year for a break out candidate to come forward and steal the power of being the new guy.

I hope Fred Thompson is holding his cards till then. What do you guys think and who would sway you if they entered later on?

[Ordie]

I myself am tired of all the Presidential candidates so far as I think most Americans are. Hillary will not stand the test of the microscope over such a long period before the election. Obama runs the risk of becoming stale to all but ethnic driven voters. Then my own party's three "top" choices seem either fake or desperate. I see room at the end of this year for a break out candidate to come forward and steal the power of being the new guy.

I hope Fred Thompson is holding his cards till then. What do you guys think and who would sway you if they entered later on?

I'm with you but more excited.

I think the stealth canidates (Thompson, Richardson, Edwards) have nothing to lose and are speaking thier minds. While the Giunianni's, Hillary and Obama are trying not to upset the money machine.

The more the stealth canidates speak up, the more they'll attention and "Buzz".

I would love to see a Richardson - Thompson debate.

However, no one wants to be the flavor of the month (Perot, Dean)

[shocker1]

I like Richardson also, he has a good handle on foreign relations. He seems more aggressive and firm with that aspect of politics. His work with the DPRK is to be commended. An election with Thompson and Richardson would I hope be a clean hard charging race that make us all proud. This is something lacking with the current selection.

What upsets me most is how the media and the political money machine have taken over politics. Thank God we have a President who ignores polls no matter if you agree with him or not. When you have a President whose policy you support in the White House then you will appreciate the opposing side respecting such brass. As it stands now we have undermined this nations President to the ill of us all. We need a return to the days of propose, debate, compromise, vote and support the final result. The day after some in Congress voted for the Iraq war they formulated how to use all the bad things of War to keep them in the money post. Slime

[vryhpyammoadded]

What do you guys think and who would sway you if they entered later on?

I have a feeling the Right is holding back with Fred, still rolling the bones, crunching the numbers and what not trying to read the future. I’m not talking about the odds that they can win, no. I’m talking about is it really worth the effort of mature, intelligent, “traditional” Liberal thinking managers to lead? Is the country so far gone into its hedonistic, corrupt, childish and ignorant lunacy that the Right should let the people get what they want, suffer and learn from the disastrous consequence of their lusts i.e. greater economic, political and civil stress that , in my opinion may lead to civil war.

I guess I’m implying a sort of Atlas Shrugged scenario where they may help best by letting go to be cruel to be kind, letting everyone learn the hard way. I hope Fred runs. To me that implies they feel we can dodge the bullet. And, yes I think he could win.

[annihilation]

I myself am tired of all the Presidential candidates so far as I think most Americans are. Hillary will not stand the test of the microscope over such a long period before the election. Obama runs the risk of becoming stale to all but ethnic driven voters. Then my own party's three "top" choices seem either fake or desperate. I see room at the end of this year for a break out candidate to come forward and steal the power of being the new guy.

I hope Fred Thompson is holding his cards till then. What do you guys think and who would sway you if they entered later on?

Wow talk about voter fatigue, my mom she said she was tired of all this. She says she will never vote again for a president or congress, just stick to the local level elections.

Personally I am not trying to watch to much of it right now, as there is too many horses on the track and we have a long way to go. Im trying to pace myself from getting tired of it all and hating it. So I don't know who to like, but it will most likely be republican though.

[Dakota435]

I myself am tired of all the Presidential candidates so far as I think most Americans are. Hillary will not stand the test of the microscope over such a long period before the election. Obama runs the risk of becoming stale to all but ethnic driven voters. Then my own party's three "top" choices seem either fake or desperate. I see room at the end of this year for a break out candidate to come forward and steal the power of being the new guy.

I hope Fred Thompson is holding his cards till then. What do you guys think and who would sway you if they entered later on?

I like Thompson so far, but would be happy with Guliani or Romney also. I would be happy with a Dem president who wasn't for retreat as well.

My greatest fear is a president who wants America to withdraw from its unavoidable and very necessary role as "world cop" and we end up with the global equivalent of a police strike, which as anyone who's lived through a police strike will be able to attest, is an unpleasant experience.

[shocker1]

I like Thompson so far, but would be happy with Guliani or Romney also. I would be happy with a Dem president who wasn't for retreat as well.

My greatest fear is a president who wants America to withdraw from its unavoidable and very necessary role as "world cop" and we end up with the global equivalent of a police strike, which as anyone who's lived through a police strike will be able to attest, is an unpleasant experience.
I despise our country being the world cop. However since our whole society depends on the world running halfway smooth we have no choice. So if this role is a must I want decisive action and unity once the decision has been made. Where ever a disaster strikes or evil pops up we come running with good intentions but the rest of the world as a whole seems opposed. No Dem or Rep will fair any better unless they tow the PC world view. Seems like a trap, reverse phsycology would be the way to go.

[annihilation]

I despise our country being the world cop. However since our whole society depends on the world running halfway smooth we have no choice. So if this role is a must I want decisive action and unity once the decision has been made. Where ever a disaster strikes or evil pops up we come running with good intentions but the rest of the world as a whole seems opposed. No Dem or Rep will fair any better unless they tow the PC world view. Seems like a trap, reverse phsycology would be the way to go.

I hate it too. Personally if we take a more isolationist role or maybe more of a chinese role (of just shoring up resource and new market deals), I be a bit more happy. Like I've said before, we are damned if we do and we are damned if we don't, but atleast when we don't it doesn't cost us anything. Plus we have so many internal issues that we need to focus more on.

[shocker1]

I hate it too. Personally if we take a more isolationist role or maybe more of a chinese role (of just shoring up resource and new market deals), I be a bit more happy. Like I've said before, we are damned if we do and we are damned if we don't, but atleast when we don't it doesn't cost us anything. Plus we have so many internal issues that we need to focus more on.
In a nuclear world and ease of travel inaction could cost us dearly. In retrospect of 911 and unknown amounts or weapons floating Saddams Iraq(so the world thought) the logic of Iraq was clear to me in that regard however wrong it was in the end. How much longer were we going to contain Saddam? Why were we containing Saddam in the first place? How do we treat cease fire violations with our enemies? Are UN resolutions worth the paper? It would be easy to let it all go to hell and go home if at some point in the future we would not find ourselves defending the worlds oil supplies, which is what all this stratigic thinking is really about IMO.

[ElHombre]

Don't get your hopes up about Thompson (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/06/AR2007050600914.html) yet. Looks like he flopped in front of a GOP crowd.


"It was not Reaganesque." "No red meat." "Too low key." That was the preponderant reaction I heard to Thompson's half-hour presentation (leavened by a few favorable comments, mostly by women, that he was more "statesmanlike" and "presidential" than the announced candidates). Lincoln Club members, like many conservative Republicans, have been unimpressed by the existing field of Republican hopefuls and envisioned Thompson as the second coming of Ronald Reagan. They did not get it Friday night.


Thank God we have a President who ignores polls no matter if you agree with him or not.

The problem is not that Bush ignores polls, it's that he ignores reality.

I haven't paid much attention to all the presidential candidates as of yet. The Dems are spoiled for choice. Richardson, Clinton, Obama, Edwards... not a bad crowd. The Rs, though... in a word: Ick. Paul is, by far, the sanest among them. Which in GOPLand means he doesn't have a chance.

[Bia]

The problem is not that Bush ignores polls, it's that he ignores reality.


So true... I saw a recent speech King George gave this weekend... he repeated the same things 4 and 5 times in the same sentences.... he looked VERY lost and confused..... more than ever.

[szr]

My main problem with all this is that by the time it comes for me to vote (general election day - I can't vote in NY primaries because they're closed primaries and I choose not to have a party affiliation) all the good candidates (read: moderate) will have already been weeded-out by the hardcore extreme right and left voters who have the biggest turnout and impact in party primaries.

[Rictor]

I myself am tired of all the Presidential candidates so far as I think most Americans are. Hillary will not stand the test of the microscope over such a long period before the election. Obama runs the risk of becoming stale to all but ethnic driven voters. Then my own party's three "top" choices seem either fake or desperate. I see room at the end of this year for a break out candidate to come forward and steal the power of being the new guy.

I hope Fred Thompson is holding his cards till then. What do you guys think and who would sway you if they entered later on?

Oh ye who seeks, I know what troubles burden your soul. Look to the light for the answers to thy questions, look to Ron Paul and ye shall find peace.

Seriously though, Ron Paul FTW.

[shocker1]

Don't get your hopes up about Thompson (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/06/AR2007050600914.html) yet. Looks like he flopped in front of a GOP crowd.





The problem is not that Bush ignores polls, it's that he ignores reality.

I haven't paid much attention to all the presidential candidates as of yet. The Dems are spoiled for choice. Richardson, Clinton, Obama, Edwards... not a bad crowd. The Rs, though... in a word: Ick. Paul is, by far, the sanest among them. Which in GOPLand means he doesn't have a chance.
Thats your piss poor opinion, I see the lamest rerun and look at me smile candidates. Richardson is the only one of your pick worth my breath.


So true... I saw a recent speech King George gave this weekend... he repeated the same things 4 and 5 times in the same sentences.... he looked VERY lost and confused..... more than ever.
Ohh how great an observation and nice little adjectives too boot but no substance for the thread as pertains to future candidates. Only a talkin point book page from hell.p-) For someone so dumb and confused he has held the big chair for eight years. Much better than say most of us here blabbing our cut downs and partisan ops.

[SBL]

Thompson won't have a chance (ihmo) because he doesn't have the rockstar quality that Obama and (especially) Guliani have. Americans are superficial; plain and simple, and they're going to vote for whoever looks coolest and makes them feel the "goodest". People are far too aware of how they want things, and not aware enough of how things have to be. I hope I'm wrong, though.

[SBL]

Thompson won't have a chance (ihmo) because he doesn't have the rockstar quality that Obama and (especially) Guliani have. Americans are superficial; plain and simple, and they're going to vote for whoever looks coolest and makes them feel the "goodest". People are far too aware of how they want things, and not aware enough of how things have to be.

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