PLA in training

[peoplesliberationarmy]

http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/10562840868a.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628882082.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628762176.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628862581.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628706075.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628736074.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628707173.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628860083.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628700072.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628863979.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628730878.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-06-22/105628853980.jpg

[Sirpad]

That shovel-fried egg looks yummi!!

[BT_Recon]

that climb up the wall un-assisted thing looks pretty groovy.

[GazB]

Very nice post. Pictures of Chinese forces are not that common.

I especially liked the pics with their new bullpup assault rifle.

[Mortimer]

Very nice post. Pictures of Chinese forces are not that common.

I especially liked the pics with their new bullpup assault rifle.

i've never seen one of them...what are they?

[JunglistSoldier]

Arn't they called TAR-21?

[Sirpad]

This is not the TAR-21. The TAR, known better as "Tavor", is the new israely assault rifle.
The gun in the pics is the new chinese rifle, Type 95. It has both regular and marksman versions.

http://www.nme.de/tmp/95.jpg
The regular version, scope attached

http://www.nme.de/tmp/kbu88.jpg
The marksman version, better known as KBU-88

[JunglistSoldier]

Yeah thats it.. thanks.

[GazB]

They are in a new calibre too... something like 5.8 x 42mm or something.

Should be interesting.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Anyone know what unit(s) these guys are from?.

[peoplesliberationarmy]

they are from a commando troops.
not the best...but better than garrison troops

[Alfred Wang]

請問這是人民解放軍的哪一個單位? woot
能否告知全銜? 多謝.

[REMOV]

請問這是人民解放軍的哪一個單位? woot
能否告知全銜? 多謝.谁关心? 这不是一个政治的论坛。下次我将写某事在Swahili 或一首诗在擦亮剂
(EN: Next time I'll write something in Swahili or a poem in Polish) ;)

[peoplesliberationarmy]

請問這是人民解放軍的哪一個單位? woot
能否告知全銜? 多謝.
臂章很明显。中国陆军特种部队。某个军区的特侦大队。
从登陆那张士兵的红色臂章就能看出来

[The Kop]

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://a9.cpimg.com/image/05/31/20738309-f484-0200012C-.jpg

[The Kop]

http://tiexue.top81.com.cn/img1/2003-6-15221656.jpg

[The Kop]

http://images.sonicalbum.com/upload_355/myphotos/%cc%d8%d6%d6%d5%bd%ca%bf_elna3.jpg

PLA, Do you know weather the new type 01 tactical vest is already in use or not, to replace the type 95 carrying system.

thx

[peoplesliberationarmy]

already used in 1st.may 2003. in 38th army corps

[dugdug]

I hope that they will wear boots soon.

[peoplesliberationarmy]

already wear boots...young man....
years ago -.-

[dugdug]

But some of the guys in the above pics............ didn't wear boots

[Seraphim]

And someone once said that there is no such thing as a stupid question.
:roll:

rofl

[peoplesliberationarmy]

But some of the guys in the above pics............ didn't wear boots
rubber shoes were comfort than boot in training....

[peoplesliberationarmy]

http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-07-09/1057732022000.jpg

........

[The Kop]

peoplesliberationarmy

can you give me any hint?

and do you know whether it is illegal to wear PLA uniform in Hong Kong? either with or without any army pathches on.

[The Kop]

anyone have any?

[He219]

Nice Tank shot. Tracks tearing up the Streets indicate a special occasion - driving towards another massacre perhaps? I doubt that treading head-on toward a civilian bus within a city while making a mess of things is a usual occurnce...

It's hard to forget the images of the Massacre in Tiananmen Square, June 9th, 1989.

http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/tank-35.jpg

http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/%7Ephalsall/images/gdssdem.jpg

Propaganda can't Whitewash that (http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9610/30/china.dissident.update/tiananmen.square.mov) event...

The Kop: you are experiencing something big right now..... why do you want to dress up as your occupier?

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=369430

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=369507


Tens of thousands of protesters surround the Legislature Council in Hong Kong's Central business district on July 9, 2003, denouncing the government's planned anti-subversion bill and demand the right to elect their own leaders.

[dugdug]

He219! These pics are really fresh! :o
Tung (Hong Kong SAR's CE) is just doing his job... Why our guys (Hong Kongers) are opposing him.....
How can he do his job well without the public's support............

[He219]

dugdug:

Why our guys (Hong Kongers) are opposing him.....
Remember that Mr Tung Chee Hwa is a two-term ELECTED Chief Executive for the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region by the people themselves. He represents the people of HK to the Central People's Government. The people of HK will only oppose him if he rubber stamps the central regieme's aims of totalitarian control over the freedom loving people of HK.


How can he do his job well without the public's support............

His term will end without re-election or even re-call if he doesn't have the public's support. HK will loose their Special Administrative Region status with initiation of draconian communist laws that would negate even calling it SAR in the first place and will lead to more interference from Beijing in Hong Kong's affairs.

p-)
He219

[The Kop]

Is there any PLA gears collectors here?

[The Kop]

http://www.dragonk.org/jpsw/pla95zhuangju/P0002578.jpg

[REMOV]

Remember that Mr Tung Chee Hwa is a two-term ELECTED Chief Executive for the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region by the people themselves. Khm... not exactly, he was (s)elected by 800-member election committee, not "the people themselves". And HK people also wants democratic Legislative Council (now it have 60 seats: 30 indirectly elected by functional constituencies, 24 elected by popular vote , and 6 elected by election committee).

[He219]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=370087

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=370086

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=370085

Hmmmm...

[dugdug]

Any Chinese here had been to a military school? I had been to 黃埔軍校(陸軍軍官學校).

[peoplesliberationarmy]

Is there any PLA gears collectors here?
I serviced in there...not cllectior....

[Seraphim]

LoL....who wants this guys job?

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=370085

[dugdug]

Er............ This job is pretty... exciting

[The Kop]

so are you a collector?

[Alfred Wang]

Any Chinese here had been to a military school? I had been to 黃埔軍校(陸軍軍官軍校).

黃埔軍校 is not called 陸軍軍官軍校 but 陸軍軍官學校, it locates in Tiwan, kaohsiung.
陸軍軍官學校 is called " Chinese Military Academy ", and 陸軍軍官軍校 is also called 陸軍官校.

Most of my high school classmates graduate from 陸軍官校 on July 12 this year and soon will serve in R.O.C Army as a second lieutenant, by the way, you had been to 陸軍官校? When? Why? and How?
I and my high school classmates graduated from a military high school (prepartory school) called "中正國防幹部預備學校-中正預校C.C.P.S", futhermore, we distribute not merely in Army, but Navy, Air Force, Marine and MP as well. As to me, now I am still in academy(not the 陸軍官校 but the 政治作戰學校-政戰學校 Fu Hsing Hang College, FHK College-Political Warefare School) for plentiful reasons, no matter how, I'm glad to be a college student especially in the department of political science, international affairs.

[dugdug]

^ sorry about the mistake

I went there because my friends told me that the time spending there is fun. So, i went there for a "10-day-trip", and it was really fun! I want to go there again.

[The Kop]

If Hong Kong were returned to R.O.C. instead of P.R.C. , what could have happened? haha.........

Alfred, I would like to know wheather there are still anyone in Taiwan (R.O.C.) still want to recapture Mainland China and unify our Country.

[Alfred Wang]

Ideological differences have made lots of conflicts not only between Taiwan and Mainland China but all over the world such as North and South Korea or so on. There are plentiful conflicts and wars in human history, of course, China is no exception, too. There are too many disasters happened in China, the suffering land. We Chinese have suffered too much and too long. For example, how many people are there in China(or Taiwan, even Hong Kong) remember a significant day, July 7?
July 7, 1937, Japanese troops had entirely invaded, however, nowadays how many people have remembered this great day and this great battle, the great battle against the Japanese Empire, the great battle about the whole nation's existence? I don't think there are not a lot of people will remember this day, even I myself also forgot this important day. Owing to being a soldier I have a duty to be loyal to my goverment, both you and I just follow the policy they(politicians or ditactors such like Mao or Jung)have made, because we don't have choice at all......................hope someday China will reunify and there will no more sufferings. :hug:
http://www.chinesefirearms.com/articles/gc/Soldier_w_CKS_cover.jpg
Shang Hai, 1937
http://www.chinesefirearms.com/bits/nationalist.jpg

[The Kop]

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/21153/p/386027_1013090269379442093_v.jpg

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/21153/p/386023_8704637582286801268_v.jpg

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/21153/p/386025_6107459466013054503_v.jpg

http://www.chinesefirearms.com/articles/cks/cover.jpg

http://www.war77.com/finsh/4-15.jpg

http://club.chinauser.com/newimg/1054368215.jpg

http://club.chinauser.com/newimg/10543689672.jpg

http://club.chinauser.com/newimg/1054364388.jpg

http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/images/liu_2.jpg

[The Kop]

http://archmage.idv.tc:2038/S-Report/photo/2-064.jpg

http://archmage.idv.tc:2038/S-Report/photo/2-069.jpg
西北軍（第29軍）軍野戰服。軍服顏色為淺藍色。
背大刀,唱"大刀進行曲"
風在哮, 馬在叫, 黃河在咆哮, 黃河在咆哮,
河西山崗萬丈高, 河東河北高樑熟了,
萬山叢中抗日英雄真不少, 青紗帳裡游擊健兒呈英豪,
端起了土槍洋槍,
保衛黃河, 保衛華北, 保衛全中國!!!

http://archmage.idv.tc:2038/S-Report/photo/2-066.jpg
國民政府警衛團之軍服式樣，顏色及款式與軍常服神似，很容易搞混。警衛團佩戴的是德製M35頭盔。

[The Kop]

Alfred, I do agree with you that there are so few pepole in China still remeber the 7.7 accident. Whatsoever, from the pictures I have post, you could easily guess I am one of the minority. Indeed, me and my friends are trying to reproduce some Chinese WW2 uniform in memory for this part of our history. Sadly, since we are not in taiwan, we are having a lot of difficulties due to the lack of information about these uniforms.

Talking about unification of China, I think this could only be done peacefully if Mainland China give up their "one party' policy and let KMT or even taiwanese "green party' to have their voice in Beijing (i.e. be the ruling party). An American alike China (with humble foreign policy) is the dream which i wish to come trun in my life. Having said that, I do agree the 'one party' system is preferable in mainland China a this moment for its stability and steady development, and I do not think the suggestion I have given above could be done within 15 to 30 years, but lets work hard to achieve that.

[peoplesliberationarmy]

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/21153/p/386027_1013090269379442093_v.jpg


http://www.chinesefirearms.com/articles/cks/cover.jpg


In first pics. the officer in middle I thought he is a major general

and 2nd pics. the equipment from 88 division? I saw the german M35 helmet and german mauser rifles ( maybe the chinese copy calld " 79' zhong zheng ) ?
Not very sure about them...

[The Kop]

Do you think you can help me in finding PLA gear? ie. uniform, bags, rucksacks, webbing, shoes and everythings....

thx.

[REMOV]

I saw the german M35 helmet
http://myweb.hinet.net/home3/user008/colect/m35/lib021.jpg
http://myweb.hinet.net/home3/user008/colect/m35/lib025.jpg
Source: http://myweb.hinet.net/home3/user008/colect/m35/m35.htm

http://www.german-helmets.com/chinese.jpg
Chinese Troops wearing exported M35 Helmets: Manchuria, 1935

This rare photo shows Chinese troops wearing two of the many exported M35 helmets that first came into production when the model was first introduced. In order to equip their army to fight the Japanese, the Chinese government imported military goods from many nations. The newly designed M35 helmet from Germany was one of the many items the Chinese used during their struggle against Japan.

http://www.chinesefirearms.com/history/motorized.jpg
http://www.chinesefirearms.com/articles/zb26/GroupZB.jpg


and german mauser rifles ( maybe the chinese copy calld " 79' zhong zheng ) ?IMHO this is a Chinese copy of Czech vz.24 Mauser bolt action rifle. But you can check it yourself at this site http://www.chinesefirearms.com/articles/modelcks_g.htm (in Chinese).

[The Kop]

or you are the webmaster who own the M35 helmet

anyway, thanks for your information, great help.

[peoplesliberationarmy]

thanks REMOV
good website.

[peoplesliberationarmy]

http://junpin.tiexue.com/
This is my friend's pla website. but only have chinese vision.
they sales pla's uniform \ bag\ helmet and boot.
If you were interesting at pla's uniform, tell him, he will work on it.

[peoplesliberationarmy]

Chinese grenadier in ww2
http://bbs.hnol.net/UploadFile/200371321295545680.jpg
http://bbs.hnol.net/UploadFile/200371321345721722.jpg

[The Kop]

I have actually e-mail 关外雪狼 sometimes ago, and I know he has a lot to offer, and I am now gathering all PLA items collectors in Hong Kong to do bulk buying from him.

by the way, would you have any idea on where to get a ex-pla or ex-chinese military radio? Is it possible for you to tell me how many soldiers sharing a radio in modern PLA?

[peoplesliberationarmy]

every squad have a radionman, they not shared them. the radio were enough for everyone. the most pop ex-radio in mainland of china were mode 861 and some other radio which were used in battalion. You can mail to the webmaster of the website I just told you. or you can go to
http://www.sonicbbs.com/war/boarddisplay.asp?BoardID=6 for a look.
many guys were sold radio and pla's uniform and helmet.
good luck. normaly the radio will cost you 200hk-350hk.

[The Kop]

PLA, you have just introduced a web page which will bring me to bankrupt...........

The webpage is just too marvelous
Too marvelous for words
.......
To tell you that it is just marvelous
Too marvelous for words
....... :o :o :o :o p-) ;) :) :D :) :) ;) ;) :P :P

[peoplesliberationarmy]

that website were the best net-trade centre in mainland of china...
so...watch out for your wallet and good luck.

[dyliaoge]

請問這是人民解放軍的哪一個單位? woot
能否告知全銜? 多謝.
臂章很明显。中国陆军特种部队。某个军区的特侦大队。
从登陆那张士兵的红色臂章就能看出来

国家机密就是这样泄露出去滴!!师兄啊师兄!!