View Full Version : Christopher Hitchens vs. George Galloway on Iraq
MPNFL
05-06-2007, 11:59 PM
The two titans go at it. Christopher Hitchens for the war, Galloway against, moderated by someone from "Democracy Now".
Part One:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=INy2ysHhgYM
Part Two
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zH_BULU2vcM&mode=related&search=
sorry I'm a lazy ass and need to learn how to put the videos properly.
Hitchens is my new hero; finally a new intellectual face for American conservativism.
Dakota435
05-07-2007, 12:04 AM
The two titans go at it. Christopher Hitchens for the war, Galloway against, moderated by someone from "Democracy Now".
Part One:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=INy2ysHhgYM
Part Two
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zH_BULU2vcM&mode=related&search=
sorry I'm a lazy ass and need to learn how to put the videos properly.
Hitchens is my new hero; finally a new intellectual face for American conservativism.
Hitch is kind of a trotskyite leftist, but one who still believes in the west as the highest development of man and something worth defending even if it is imperfect. He doesn't seem to have had his mind emptied out by postmodernism the way most leftist intellectuals have.
He's the kind of guy where you might argue intensely over domestic social policy, but you'd have common ground on much of the international stuff.
MPNFL
05-07-2007, 12:13 AM
Hitch is kind of a trotskyite leftist, but one who still believes in the west as the highest development of man and something worth defending even if it is imperfect. He doesn't seem to have had his mind emptied out by postmodernism the way most leftist intellectuals have.
He's the kind of guy where you might argue intensely over domestic social policy, but you'd have common ground on much of the international stuff.
haha exactly. well, postmodernism has its benefits; you can use it to deconstruct any argument...especially those propagated by "letist intellectuals" p-)
I just like the fact now that I can use Hitchens as an example to show that not all conservatives are "stupid redneck hill-billies" as some of my professors have labeled.
Dakota435
05-07-2007, 12:16 AM
haha exactly. well, postmodernism has its benefits; you can use it to deconstruct any argument...especially those propagated by "letist intellectuals" p-)
I just like the fact now that I can use Hitchens as an example to show that not all conservatives are "stupid redneck hill-billies" as some of my professors have labeled.
Irony abounds these days. The lib left intelligentsia are now the reactionaries, knees jerking away with the slightest prodding.
MPNFL
05-07-2007, 12:21 AM
Irony abounds these days. The lib left intelligentsia are now the reactionaries, knees jerking away with the slightest prodding.
haha right on. seems like the pendulum is starting to swing the conservative way :)
Dakota435
05-07-2007, 12:22 AM
haha right on. seems like the pendulum is starting to swing the conservative way :)
Hard to say. They control most of the media and almost the whole education system.
MPNFL
05-07-2007, 12:27 AM
Hard to say. They control most of the media and almost the whole education system.
as long as they don't control the State Department or the Pentagon I'm not too worried.
not to say that the media of course isn't important nor the educational system, but that's something that can be changed soon enough. but that's probably just wishful thinking on my part.
Don't conservatives have Liberty University?p-) I wonder why the left has won the control of our universities and the media? I find it very hard in college with most professors beating to the same drum, but I do have hard core conservative mined ones.
MPNFL
05-07-2007, 12:46 AM
Don't conservatives have Liberty University?p-) I wonder why the left has won the control of our universities and the media? I find it very hard in college with most professors beating to the same drum, but I do have hard core conservative mined ones.
well i'd argue that a lot of them are pacifists, so they would naturally be inclined to the left; especially the more senior anti-Vietnam war era professors .
but the notion most left-leaning people like to propagate is the belief that their ideas come about because they are simply "more educated"; people like Hitchens and others certainly do well to counter that stereotype.
C.MAXIMUS
05-07-2007, 03:25 PM
George Galloway is a f*cking imbec*le
MPNFL
05-07-2007, 04:59 PM
^^I love the clip of him meeting Saddam and him practically kissing his ass
Did anyone notice the replies on youtube to this clip. There are maybe 2 people that praised Hitchens.
MPNFL
05-07-2007, 09:59 PM
Did anyone notice the replies on youtube to this clip. There are maybe 2 people that praised Hitchens.
most people hate any conservative ideology...well ok maybe just a lot
Galloway needs to drop dead.
Irony abounds these days. The lib left intelligentsia are now the reactionaries, knees jerking away with the slightest prodding.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6650/20021213hyo6.gif
a_very_ex_STAB
05-08-2007, 01:30 PM
^^I love the clip of him meeting Saddam and him practically kissing his ass
I love the clip of Rummy puckering up :)
MPNFL
05-08-2007, 03:11 PM
I love the clip of Rummy puckering up :)
hahah touche!
I can't make any solid conclusion on Rumsfeld; genius or just plain retarded?
lider_r
05-08-2007, 03:19 PM
hitchens is a drunken ****
i just love his sad attempt at taking the moral high ground by asking for a moments silence for the iraqis who had been killed, then argues we have to keep following a plan which isnt stopping them from getting killed.
martinexsquaddie
05-09-2007, 06:07 AM
George galloway is scum but he totally owned those american politicons who demanded he come over and face them "i've met saddam the exact same number of times as rumsfield":)
a_very_ex_STAB
05-09-2007, 09:56 AM
hitchens is a drunken ****
i just love his sad attempt at taking the moral high ground by asking for a moments silence for the iraqis who had been killed, then argues we have to keep following a plan which isnt stopping them from getting killed.
Yup Hitchens is a drunk and Galloway is just pure slime. Actually that is probably an insult to slime.
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