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mustamato
05-03-2004, 12:15 AM
Maine Finn thinks that people like me and Uninen creates an bad image of Finns, so I
thought that I should show our actual positive contribution to the world. Enjoy!
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http://www.eroticartcollection.com/Media/Tom_of_Finland/Tom_of_Finland.jpg
TOM OF FINLAND was born Touko Laaksonen in 1920 in the village of
Kaarina, Finland. At the age of nineteen, he moved to Helsinki to attend art
college and, for his own personal enjoyment, created his first homoerotic
drawings.
Following his release from the army after World War II, Touko began to work
in advertising. He continued to draw his fantasies and, urged by close
friends, submitted them to the American bodybuilding magazine Physique
Pictorial. Because of the conservative social climate in 1957, he chose to be
published under the pseudonym "Tom of Finland."
In 1991, he was featured in the film documentary Daddy and the Muscle
Academy - The Art, Life, and Times of Tom of Finland. Later that year, he
died of complications from emphysema.
Permanent Collections
Los Angeles County Museum of Art, Los Angeles, California
San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, San Francisco, California
Helsinki Museum of Contemporary Art, Helsinki, Finland
Turku Town Hall, Turku, Finland
http://www.ibnistan.net/saglik/06.jpg
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom002.jpg
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom07.jpg
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom14.jpg
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom29.jpg
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom3.jpg
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tomF.h12.gif
NcDeuce
05-03-2004, 12:16 AM
Wow, that guy is a role model. :roll:
Merik
05-03-2004, 12:59 AM
Umm yeah whats up with the gay porno art?
Merik
05-03-2004, 01:00 AM
EDIT: double post
mocking_loudly_died
05-03-2004, 01:03 AM
Ha! - thats some bizzare and funny ****.
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:07 AM
Those are some interesting drawings...
Is it just me... or is there something a little off about lumberjacking naked? I'm thinking that could be risking the package. p-)
Fintin
05-03-2004, 01:09 AM
im keeping my pants on in this thread....is it just me or does anyone else not get it...
Those are some interesting drawings...
Is it just me... or is there something a little off about lumberjacking naked? I'm thinking that could be risking the package. p-)
not just you, definitely not just you.
hank
mustamato
05-03-2004, 01:15 AM
Some more from Tom of Finland. He was an officer in the Finnish army during ww2 btw.
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_02.jpg
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_03.jpg
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_05.jpg
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_06.jpg
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_08.jpg
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_09.jpg
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_10.jpg
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_11.jpg
Uninen
05-03-2004, 01:18 AM
mustamato,
How should i break this to you.... "Tom Of Finland" was / is? homosexual, now how in earth is this "positive"?
Or am i just being narrow minded? :|
Midav
05-03-2004, 01:20 AM
Hey mustamato!
Always thought you were somewhat queer.
rofl
Hey, you left yourself wide open for that one :cantbeli:
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:21 AM
mustamato,
How should i break this to you.... "Tom Of Finland" was / is? homosexual, now how in earth is this "positive"?
Or am i just being narrow minded? :|
Oh come on, Uninen... what makes you think he was gay? ;)
Uninen
05-03-2004, 01:23 AM
Oh come on, Uninen... what makes you think he was gay? ;)
I cant quite point my finger at it... but i have this strong feeling.... ;)
Lets just stick with NOKIA and SAUNA for positive Finland image ok? :D
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:27 AM
Oh come on, Uninen... what makes you think he was gay? ;)
I cant quite point my finger at it... but i have this strong feeling.... ;)
Lets just stick with NOKIA and SAUNA for positive Finland image ok? :D
rofl I think he's just misunderstood.
I spent 6 weeks in Finland one summer. It was in Keitele (not sure if I spelled that correctly) However, I refused the sauna... cause they were all naked, and they had a 17 year old son. I was 18 at the time, and I wasn't really comfortable with that situation! :oops:
Uninen
05-03-2004, 01:34 AM
Hmm..
I think they might have tryed to trick you into something... as (at least in "my circles") it would be highly unusual to have man and woman that arent man / wife or boyfriend / girlfriend to go to sauna at the same time, let alone naked... :P
Futhermore we just usually make it the easy way and have the boys and girls go to sauna "in different turns"....
just with little kids it bit different... (but 17 and 18 years olds arent that...)
Oh and... "Keitele" seems about correct, just dont have a clue where its at... :D
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:40 AM
Hmm..
I think they might have tryed to trick you into something... as (at least in "my circles") it would be highly unusual to have man and woman that arent man / wife or boyfriend / girlfriend to go to sauna at the same time, let alone naked... :P
Futhermore we just usually make it the easy way and have the boys and girls go to sauna "in different turns"....
just with little kids it bit different... (but 17 and 18 years olds arent that...)
Oh and... "Keitele" seems about correct, just dont have a clue where its at... :D
I KNEW it! rofl I spent a good deal of the time dodging the dad and going into the sauna naked with any of them was out of the question! :oops:
I don't remember exactly where it was, but I rode a ship from Sweden to Finland (Silja Line... now THAT was fun) and we went north from Helsinki. It seems like it was at least a couple of hours north, but it's been a long time ago.
mustamato
05-03-2004, 01:46 AM
http://www.keiteleenlatukone.fi/resources/latukone/uploads/images/keitele.gif
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/WebMedia/Images/65/NG6574/eNG6574.jpg
Lake Keitele, seems to be a lots of water and trees there
Painted by Akseli Gallen-Kallela by the way, I think he should be seen in the
same class as Tom of Finland. I especially like his paintings for Kalevala, the national
epos of Finland, that tells the story of how the world was created, and which Gods and
everything lived in Finland before the Swedes came with their Christian God in the
early 13th century.
Some mythic events that took place in pre-13th century Finland
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~xyu/kale-gb/pics/gallen/aino_myth.jpg
The young maid Aino drowns herself rather than marries the old man
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~xyu/kale-gb/pics/gallen/kullervo_departs_for_the_war.jpg
Kullervo departs for war
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~xyu/kale-gb/pics/gallen/kullervos_curse.jpg
Kullervo´s curse
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~xyu/kale-gb/pics/gallen/lemminkainens_mother.jpg
The dead Lemminkäinen with his mother, Lemminkäinen was killed,
chopped to pieces and thrown in the lake. His mother fished up his body
parts, put them together and asked the Gods to wake him, they did so
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~xyu/kale-gb/pics/gallen/sammon_taonta.jpg
The forging of the magic mill Sampo
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~xyu/kale-gb/pics/gallen/sammon_puolustus.jpg
Sampo is lost in the sea when Louhi from the dark north Pohjola tries to
take Sampo...
It´s said that Tolkien got influenced by Kalevala a bit :)
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:49 AM
There were trees everywhere! It was beautiful.
ibstolidude
05-03-2004, 03:08 AM
There were trees everywhere! It was beautiful.
surrounded by lots of trees and sauna would easily explain the loads of naked lumberjacks.
Even a man like CJ when he sees good wood has been know to have a lumber-jack.
/me listens to Monty Pyton - The Finnland song ;)
StarvingStudent47
05-03-2004, 04:55 AM
This thread makes no sense whatsoever.
Ichhabe
05-03-2004, 04:57 AM
Those are some interesting drawings...
Is it just me... or is there something a little off about lumberjacking naked? I'm thinking that could be risking the package. p-)
What is not normal with that. I do it all the time. Prevent clothes from getting wet. :D
And awsome drawings for them that is "drawn" to such stuff. Butt hell would freeze over before I had a picture by him on my wall. rofl
Javehn
05-03-2004, 05:04 AM
I don't understand **** . What the hell is going on here ? What's up with alll that uneccesary gayish stuff ?
Mustamato , so , are you pillow bitter ? **** i always knew that .
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 05:11 AM
Maine Finn thinks that people like me and Uninen creates an bad image of Finns, so I
thought that I should show our actual positive contribution to the world. Enjoy!
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More like HIV positive with your gay arts.
Ichhabe
05-03-2004, 05:16 AM
Maine Finn thinks that people like me and Uninen creates an bad image of Finns, so I
thought that I should show our actual positive contribution to the world. Enjoy!
________________________________________________
More like HIV positive when your gay arts.
Don't be so negative Jack. Just see it as a broadening of your horizon. It isn't transferable through pictures, so sit back. Relax & enjoy. ;)
Javehn
05-03-2004, 05:22 AM
Yea , nice art . But this isn't a Gaylord Museum .
There is a line on this side of the road , and on this side , we ain't gay :lol: .
**** , my gaydar just exploded .
Ichhabe
05-03-2004, 05:23 AM
Well, need to be a lot more before I get disturbed. If this is what it takes, how can you even live in Israel Javehn?
Steve Railsback
05-03-2004, 06:15 AM
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_06.jpg
Oh, what a great picture,
Reminds me of my conscript days, so much fun! ;)
This is my new background image
HELEX
05-03-2004, 06:30 AM
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_06.jpg
Oh, what a great picture,
Reminds me of my conscript days, so much fun! ;)
This is my new background image
I think most of the american Soldiers would like this Pic, why else should they take similar Photos from Iraqis? :lol:
Javehn
05-03-2004, 06:56 AM
Well, need to be a lot more before I get disturbed. If this is what it takes, how can you even live in Israel Javehn?
Hmm , what ? Our country is swormed with some gay love ? :bash:
I live very good , i have a girl ,and that's all good . I am visiting museums (last week on Rally Museum of art ) , and i kinda have no problems with art . ;)
I can stand many things , dude , but not this pillow bitting stuff . I can't stand to see gayish stuff . This kinda art belongs to some fetish museums .
Javehn
05-03-2004, 06:57 AM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom002.jpg
OMG I AM ****ING BLIND :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork:
YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS TO SHOW HOW NICE AND WORM EUROPE ARE ????????
:fork: :fork:
GAY .
hey! don't go calling all europeans gay, dana international
Javehn
05-03-2004, 07:17 AM
hey! don't go calling all europeans dana international
I didn't :fork: :fork: :fork:
I called Mustamato and his militaryphotos gang GAY .
GAY .
hey! don't go calling all europeans dana international
I didn't :fork: :fork: :fork:
I called Mustamato and his militaryphotos gang GAY .
GAY .
Feeling a bit homophobic?
Insecure perhaps? rofl
Javehn
05-03-2004, 07:27 AM
Yes . I have a wood right now .
Like WTF ? It's not a good way to make your point by bringing those pictures ...
Rantanplan
05-03-2004, 07:27 AM
hey! don't go calling all europeans dana international
I didn't :fork: :fork: :fork:
I called Mustamato and his militaryphotos gang GAY .
GAY .
Feeling a bit homophobic?
Insecure perhaps? rofl
He should watch Chasing Amy.
Javehn
05-03-2004, 07:28 AM
He should watch Chasing Amy
The fuucking movie rocks . Yea . "Finger trap" :lol: .
Ichhabe
05-03-2004, 07:39 AM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom002.jpg
OMG I AM f*** BLIND :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork:
YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS TO SHOW HOW NICE AND WORM EUROPE ARE ????????
:fork: :fork:
GAY .
Since it seems that you liked this the best, it would be a shame of not giving it another show, eh?
What I see: Two guys working in the woods, secure about their malehood. Nothing wrong working in the nude among friends. :D
Mustamato,
Sadomasochistic gay porn is somewhat inappropriate on a military-related discussion forum. There are many kids browsing here, why don't you edit those pictures as links?
Mustamato,
Sadomasochistic gay porn is somewhat inappropriate on a military-related discussion forum. There are many kids browsing here, why don't you edit those pictures as links?
Oh, so you see SM gay porn in here? Such a dirty mind you have, duck...
I'm sure it's no problem to show those pics to 10-year olds in your family. That's fine, but others might have different opinions.
Javehn
05-03-2004, 08:07 AM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom002.jpg
OMG I AM f*** BLIND :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork:
YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS TO SHOW HOW NICE AND WORM EUROPE ARE ????????
:fork: :fork:
GAY .
Since it seems that you liked this the best, it would be a shame of not giving it another show, eh?
What I see: Two guys working in the woods, secure about their malehood. Nothing wrong working in the nude among friends. :D
Offcorse !! Damn , i am so narrow minded !! And also insecure on my sexuality , that's the reason i preffer pictures with naked ladies ;) .
Yes , and this is tottally not gay . Just good old friends secure in their sexuality hanging together ....
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_06.jpg
MUSTAMATO . DOUBLE YOU TEA EFF , MATE ???
I am gonna puke .
Marmot1
05-03-2004, 08:20 AM
Gomoseki??? Waiting for spermskiOMON to visit and comment rofl rofl rofl rofl
Great idea Mustamato ;) at least we know how finish gomosek looks like rofl
Javehn
05-03-2004, 08:53 AM
So , Mustmeetgaydudeto , are this means you are a gay guy ? ]
Or you are metrosexual ?
Holly **** , like dude !! You are out of closet online !!
ronin2172
05-03-2004, 08:59 AM
y does it feel like make u sweat by c+c music factory, it's raining men by the weather girls or YMCA by the villiage people would be ideal theme songs for this thread? LMAO rofl
Any one remember the simpsons episode when homer took bart to a gay steel mill? LOL :lol:
UkrainianAmerican
05-03-2004, 09:01 AM
GOMOSEK
Mustamato WTF were you thinking?
OMG, is there a forum rule that says you have to link to graphic pics?
Javehn
05-03-2004, 09:06 AM
Hey , Musti . I have noe thing to say to you .
http://www.web.apc.org/~ara/OTP/OTP20/reverse.gif
Yep . Congratulation leaving the closet .
Caraway
05-03-2004, 09:58 AM
It's weird how much passion a few homoerotic art drawings can cause in our members... ;)
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 09:58 AM
There were trees everywhere! It was beautiful.
surrounded by lots of trees and sauna would easily explain the loads of naked lumberjacks.
Even a man like CJ when he sees good wood has been know to have a lumber-jack.
Oh jeez...I must have been tired last night. Otherwise, I would have made that connection myself, and I probably would have refrained from talking about "wood" and "lumberjacks" in my post. :roll:
Lets just stick with NOKIA and SAUNA for positive Finland image ok? :D[/color]
Good plan man, I love my Nokia 7250i.
Stavka
05-03-2004, 10:02 AM
*sings merrily* "I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK..."
This is great stuff! Hyvää Suomi! I always wondered wtf you guys where up to with the saunas and all... ;)
radon
05-03-2004, 10:28 AM
stfu Swedes are known to be gay . Svenskarma är bög. This is a known truth around here.
ibstolidude
05-03-2004, 11:33 AM
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_06.jpg
Oh, what a great picture,
Reminds me of my conscript days, so much fun! ;)
This is my new background image
I think most of the american Soldiers would like this Pic, why else should they take similar Photos from Iraqis? :lol:
they likely enjoy just as much as you like seeing hundreds of thousands of people burned alive and gassed.
spectre5
05-03-2004, 11:35 AM
Javehn are we feeling a bit unsecure :D ? You remind me of that Mr. Garrison dude from southpark :D
Anyway you don't need to watch if you don't like.
(and yes im in a relationship with a girl.)
mustamato
05-03-2004, 11:36 AM
You are out of closet online !!
According to people like you I´m nazi and gay. Strange combination, but of course
there were nazis that were gay as well, such as Ernst Röhm that was leader of the
SA.
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERroehm.JPG
SA (Sturmabteilung) was a threat against the influence of the SS and even to men
like Hitler. By 1934 the SA had grown to 4,500,000 men. They were often known
as "brownshirts" (they used German army uniforms intended for the colonies) while
SS used black clothes instead. Ernst Roehm was finally killed by two SS men
at "the night of the long knives" when SA was finally banned. It´s believed that
Roehm was gay (based on letters he wrote).
There is nothing special about someone being Nazi/Neonazi and gay at the same time. There was even a gay German Neonazi leader who died of AIDS in the 90's. Now how about changing those pics to links?
Uninen
05-03-2004, 11:43 AM
Javehn has surely paid great attention to the discussion here, also he has quote lots and lots of these "Tom Of Finland pictures", maybe he just cant get enough of them?
Wonder what he has done with all of the pictures that "Jack Meoff" has posted of himself...
:lol:
Ichhabe
05-03-2004, 11:56 AM
Now how about changing those pics to links?
But that would totally take away the effect of them literally "hit" you in the face.
It is people like you that strangle homo-erotic s&m art and doesn't allow it to roam freely. You Sir, is a censcorist.
And yes, Javehn seem to have grown in to like Tom of Finland's Fine Art. Care to share some art a là Tom from Israel? :D
For Mustamato/Uninen:
Gay nazi - A contradiction in terms?
The British National Party is awash with rumours that a leading member of the party is a closet bisexual. The thought of gay nazis may seem contradictory, but over the years several leading nazis have led secret, and not so secret, gay lives. Nick Lowles and Kate Taylor explore the apparent contradiction and ask whether one can ever reconcile being gay and a nazi?
"After roll call on the evening of June 20, 1942, an order was suddenly given: 'All prisoners with the pink triangle will remain standing at attention!' We stood on the desolate, broad square, and from somewhere a warm breeze carried the sweet fragrance of resin and wood from the regions of freedom; but we couldn't taste it, because our throats were hot and dry from fear. Then the guardhouse door of the command tower opened, and an SS officer and some of his lackeys strode towards us. Our detail commander barked: 'Three hundred criminal deviants, present as ordered!' We were registered, and then it was revealed to us in accordance with an order from the Reichsführung SS, our category was to be isolated in an intensified-penalty company, and we would be transferred as a unit to the Klinker Brickworks the next morning. The Klinker factory! We shuddered, for the human death mill was more than feared."
L D Classen von Neudegg was one of the thousands of gay men rounded up by the Nazis before and during the Second World War. While he survived to tell his story, thousands of others were not so lucky.
Homosexuality was illegal under Hitler's Germany. With the introduction of the Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honour, in 1935, a kiss, an embrace and even homosexual fantasies were punishable. According to James Steakley in The Body Politic, "one man was successfully prosecuted on the grounds that he had observed a couple making love in a park and watched only the man".
The homophobia of Nazism did not end in 1945 and it remains a cornerstone of far-right politics. Unsurprisingly, the British National Party's policy is to outlaw homosexuality. "We are pledged not only to put an end to this promotion by means of invoking obscenity laws; we promise, in addition, to bring back legislation forbidding homosexual acts - thus driving these revolting practices back into the closet where they belong." (BNP General Election manifesto 1997)
In recent years nazis have revelled in the Aids virus. As the BNP wrote gleefully in 1983: "Nature is at last taking revenge against the nauseating proliferation of homosexuality". (Spearhead no 111, July 1983)
Even after the recent nazi bombing in Soho, the BNP could not resist an anti-gay attack. "The TV footage of dozens of 'gay' demonstrators flaunting their perversion in front of the world's journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive." (Nick Griffin, Spearhead, June 1999, p364)
At a more extreme end, violence has been perpetrated by nazi thugs, largely but not exclusively drawn from the ranks of the skinheads. In 1990 Combat 18's present leader, Will Browning, was sent to prison for three years after attacking a gay man in central London. In Sweden several members of the nazi Aryan Brotherhood have been imprisoned for murdering gay men.
Underpinning fascist hatred of gays is an underlying ideology relating to traditional roles within the family. This is complimented by continued emphasis on a strong moral order. Consequently there is often a need for open displays of both strong masculinity and heterosexuality. The anti-gay rhetoric and practice that pervades the extreme right derives from a belief in the recreation of the white race and a rigid gender system that accompanies this.
In essence, a man must "be a man". Any roles that do not fit into this rigid model of masculinity, or into what is considered a normal and healthy sexuality, are virulently opposed. This can culminate not only in overt abuse but also in physical violence.
However, despite the long-standing homophobia of the far right, there have been a number of examples of gay nazis. The most famous in the Third Reich was Ernst Roehm, leader of the street thugs, the Stormtroopers. He eventually fell victim to Hitler in the "Night of the Long Knives", which Hitler liked people to believe, quite untruthfully really, was a purge of homosexuals in the Nazi Party.
In Britain the best known gay nazi was Martin Webster, the national organiser of the National Front during the seventies. He was eventually "outed" by John Tyndall, the BNP leader, citing this as his reason for splitting from the NF in 1980. In Germany at least two postwar nazi leaders, Michael Kühnen and Ewald Althans, have led secret gay lives.
Few of these people were ever open about their sexuality, indeed attitudes ranged from being in the closet to outright denial. One exception was Peter Marriner, one of the only "out" gay nazis since the war. Of course he was to suffer and was gradually ostracised by much of the far right.
As recently as the mid-nineties, Marriner addressed a meeting of the West Midlands BNP. "What's your view on homosexuality?" one member asked sarcastically. In a rare piece of wit for the far right, Marriner responded: "I don't think it should be made compulsory."
Another now infamous gay nazi was Nicky Crane, a member of the British Movement Leader Guard and a skinhead leader in the early eighties. At over six foot tall and extremely violent, Crane was the archetypal nazi skinhead, so much so that it was his picture that adorned the cover of "Strength Through Oi", a seminal "Oi" album. As a nazi Crane was involved in much violence, including gay bashing. Yet at the same time, and presumably unbeknown to those close to him in the nazi scene, he was a hardcore gay porn star. His long-time partner was an older Jewish man.
Crane finally came out on a Channel 4 programme in September 1992, claiming that since coming to terms with his sexuality he had dropped out of the right. The following year he died of Aids.
That so many leading nazis have been gay begs the question, why? "There is no one simple answer but a multitude of reasons," says Peter Tatchell of the gay rights group, Outrage.
For a gay man to espouse homophobic views, and sometimes even to perpetrate violence against other gay men, hints at a self-effacing hatred. To hit out at something they do not like about themselves indicates a fear of who they truly are. A web of violence, explicit heterosexuality and strong masculinity lies under the umbrella of far-right groups. This may well provide a successful mask for those wanting to avoid the implications of being gay in a hostile environment.
Self-denial is another reason why gay men seek refuge in the far right. "The fear of being labelled 'queer' can be part of the reason some heterosexual men go to extremes," says Tatchell. "Their hyper-masculinity is projected as 'proof' of hetero identity. It ostentatiously dissociates them from the perceived effeminacy of the homosexual 'other'. These insecure straights reassure themselves of their heterosexuality with the simple-minded syllogism: 'Straight men are tough. Queers are weak. I'm tough therefore I can't be queer'."
Attempting to explain why some gay men become involved in 'queer' bashing and violence generally, Tatchell adds: "Unable to accept their homosexuality, their participation in violence can be a desperate attempt to fit in with their straight peers, prove their 'manhood' and project a 'tough guy' image to deflect speculation about their sexuality".
But the paradox of the gay nazi may also be explained in another way. Generally condemned by a society that continues to be largely hostile to gays, some men may find refuge and a new power status in the far right. Through adherence to the politics espoused by fascist groups, a new identity emerges - one which is empowered by positively identifying with the status of white male. While in this hostile environment a gay identity may be disempowering, a new role can be found which counteracts this. For in this context a stereotyped version of masculinity can be adhered to. This is a macho, aggressive version that is seemingly incompatible with homosexuality, thus rendering this part of their identity invisible.
As one former gay nazi who hid his sexuality told Searchlight: "As a gay man I was criminalised by society. I began mixing with other 'outcasts'. I got drawn towards the right because it gave me a sense of power I didn't have, or at least wasn't afforded to me by society."
Of course some gay men may simply enjoy the iconography of the nazis. Uniforms, power, domination, skinheads and the general machismo could be appealing to some gay men. "You must remember it is a very male movement," says Tatchell. "Some people will be drawn to the male fraternity that exists in the right."
Finally there are some gay nazis, Webster the obvious example, who simply dismiss the association between one's sexuality and one's political views. However, he might convince himself of that, but the incompatibility between homosexuality and national socialism is clear. While Webster might be right when he argues that he has never made a homophobic remark, he presided over a homophobic organisation, some of whose members carried out verbal and physical attacks on gay men.
The hypocrisy is not confined to those gay nazis who are involved in homophobic movements. Hitler was well aware of Roehm's sexuality, just as Tyndall knew of Webster's long-term relationship with Michael Salt. In both cases their own political hatred of homosexuality was suppressed until, as happened in both cases, it became politically advantageous to "out" their colleagues.
There is no logic behind being a gay nazi. It is a contradiction, an incomprehensible position. Even if they themselves do not engage in "queer bashing" or homophobic behaviour, in promoting a group that does, they are at the very least accomplices, at worst promoters, of nazi persecution of others sharing their own lifestyle.
Copyright © 1999, Searchlight,
Javehn
05-03-2004, 12:03 PM
One minute , i will , i am fighting with Mustamato here , trying to kick him away from my Johnson . :roll:
Ok , so something is very ****ed up over here .
Mustamato is posting extra gay pictures , and i am getting accused ?? Strange , i must be very inshure of my manhood , and that's why i preffer to see some beautifull women body , then excuse me , the self boot fuucking of this gayass Tom .
Something is fuucked up .
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 12:39 PM
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2Sheds_Jackson
05-03-2004, 12:40 PM
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/gay16.jpg
HELEX
05-03-2004, 12:43 PM
Some great reactions here, I really enjoy reading.... :lol:
Ichhabe
05-03-2004, 12:45 PM
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/gay16.jpg
Boy! We got a rocket scientist among us. rofl
Caraway
05-03-2004, 12:50 PM
Some great reactions here, I really enjoy reading.... :lol: Same here!!! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 12:52 PM
I think musturbator is looking for a boy friend.
*covers my ass with a steel plate*
Javehn
05-03-2004, 12:53 PM
According to people like you I´m nazi and gay. Strange combination, but of course
there were nazis that were gay as well, such as Ernst Röhm that was leader of the
SA.
Yes , so you post gay pictures of gay artist ,praise him , and then : "According to people like you " . People like me ?? Did i post this **** over here ? Or you did ? That's some fuucked up logic you got there .
Ichhabe
05-03-2004, 12:56 PM
According to people like you I´m nazi and gay. Strange combination, but of course
there were nazis that were gay as well, such as Ernst Röhm that was leader of the
SA.
Yes , so you post gay pictures of gay artist ,praise him , and then : "According to people like you " . People like me ?? Did i post this **** over here ? Or you did ? That's some fuucked up logic you got there .
Come on Javehn. You love a picture of a nude lumber jack as much as the next man. Don't be so in-sensitive. You and Jack Mehoff should get together. Chill out together, and... Badabing. Who'm to know what happens. :D
citizen-k
05-03-2004, 01:04 PM
hey! don't go calling all europeans gay, dana international
rofl rofl rofl
So he is gay, who gives a ****?
(accept for the guy who is standing in front of him in line...)
Caraway
05-03-2004, 01:08 PM
Homosexuality and army are often linked together. Both are things that men do. That's why I think that this thread belongs to here. Atleast it should teach something for the young boys about the world and themselves.
Besides, Tom of Finland ideology suggests that another man is a another man's whore. These guys don't wear dresses...
Javehn
05-03-2004, 01:10 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/124885063540964d701186a.jpg
That is the most deffenetly funniest aviatar i ever see . rofl rofl
citizen-k
05-03-2004, 01:11 PM
You are out of closet online !!
According to people like you I´m nazi and gay. Strange combination, but of course
there were nazis that were gay as well, such as Ernst Röhm that was leader of the
SA.
Actually musti, it's not that strange.
I don't know the English term for this (its from psychology) but one of our "defence mechanisms" is called "reversal reaction" - so a gay guy who is ashamed of being gay - turns into a "gay hater".
(All those killings of gays - done by gay lovers who "hate" what they did so they kill their partner...)
Many of the SS officers were, in fact, gay - there are MANY stories about gay activity in the camps...
Not that I care if your gay, your personality has many other aspects I worry about... ;)
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 01:12 PM
Homosexuality and army are often linked together. Both are things that men do. That's why I think that this thread belongs to here. Atleast it should teach something for the young boys about the world and themselves.
Besides, Tom of Finland ideology suggests that another man is a another man's whore. These guys don't wear dresses...
rofl Maybe in your Finnish army, you queer.
Homosexual never view as masculine or manly, and American servicemen are some of the most homophobic people in our society.
Caraway
05-03-2004, 01:17 PM
Homosexual never view as masculine or manly, and American servicemen are some of the most homophobic people in our society. Hey, check what Tom of Finland or the boys at the Blue Oyster has to say about that...
citizen-k
05-03-2004, 01:17 PM
"Yosi and Jager" (I thinks its the right translation) is a new (2,3 years) Israeli movie about 2 gay soldiors in the IDF. (2 officers)
They served together in Lebanon and one of them was killed in action.
http://wmh.walla.co.il/w/w-200/50857-4.jpg
Don't know if the story is real, all I know is that the singer who sings the theme song is gay, and that he had a boyfriend (gay) officer in Lebanon.
(They are still "together"...)
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:20 PM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay)
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 01:21 PM
So, a real man go around sticking his dick up another man's butt and then brag about it on a forum? Maybe that's YOUR definition of a "real" man in Finland, but that doesn't apply here in the U.S. :roll:
Go back to your closet where you belong your queer. I alway have this suspicion about you Finn.
Homosexual never view as masculine or manly, and American servicemen are some of the most homophobic people in our society. Hey, check what Tom of Finland or the boys at the Blue Oyster has to say about that...
IDFM203
05-03-2004, 01:21 PM
C-K great avatar pic :D
hey! don't go calling all europeans gay, dana international First of all he didn’t call all, but even if, I mean "it" did get a majority vote in Europe and "it" did win the contest, right?:roll: :D Obviously "it" is liked by many in Europe. hmmmm :roll: p-) :D
Hell why do you think we sent that “thing” over to you guys p-)
Shalom :D
2Sheds_Jackson
05-03-2004, 01:25 PM
Since I've been accused of being a "rocket scientist" for dismissing the subject matter as little more than homosexual masturbatory flotsam, please allow me to salvage my reputation, and contribute a more detailed assessment of the "artwork".
Ahem,
This emotionally stunted, relentlessly detailed homo-erotic ode to self indulgence never rises above the level of a high-school notebook drawing, and literally shouts out it's single minded message ;"I get a boner from looking at men". Short of field, depth, and feeling, it features anatomically exaggerated figures arranged and dressed suggestively, truly in the spirit of our finest adolescent obsessives. As "art" it assumes the mantle of the worst disposable populist tripe, and has no place other than with those who would admire it not for technique, but for it's utter fascination of men with big johnsons.
But I'm still enjoying people attempting to admire it for something besides the obvious. Well, yes, it's very...interesting. The king has no clothes (and he's anatomically exaggerated all to hell..) avert your eyes!!
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 01:28 PM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay)
Babe, does the phrase men are from Mars and women are from Venus ring any bell?
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:30 PM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay)
Babe, does the phrase men are from Mars and women are from Venus ring any bell?
Of course... I'm just trying to understand why that is such a big deal to men. Personally, I would rather be thought gay than stupid, but that's just me. :)
citizen-k
05-03-2004, 01:32 PM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay)
It's simple.
Do you know what man think when they look at woman?
Now, think what a man thinks when another man is looking at him as if he was a woman...
This the the basic reason for homophobia...
Caraway
05-03-2004, 01:32 PM
So, a real man go around sticking his dick up another man's butt and then brag about it on a forum? Maybe that's YOUR definition of a "real" man in Finland, but that doesn't apply here in the U.S. :roll: Did you know that Tom of Finland became famous in the USA? And he became famous all over the world due to becoming famous in the USA? Don't say that there are no HARDCORE HOMOS (different thing than a GAY or QUEER) in U.S. army, Navy or Marines.
According to Tom of Finland, the true man knows when another man is his "woman". It's the ULTIMATE MACHO IDEOLOGY!!!
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:34 PM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay)
It's simple.
Do you know what man think when they look at woman?
Now, think what a man thinks when another man is looking at him as if he was a woman...
This the the basic reason for homophobia...
But why does that bother you? I've been hit on by women, and it didn't bother me. I just explained that I wasn't interested. It didn't make me question my sexuality. I don't really mind if another woman finds me attractive. Why would it bother you if another man found you attractive?
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 01:34 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:
HELEX
05-03-2004, 01:34 PM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay)
Ok, to give an example to you: Do you like to see girls kissing or doing other things? I like to see it but most girls say it is disgusting. Lesbians are usually no Problem for men, but homosexual men are.
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:36 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:
rofl That wasn't really what I meant, Jack. When I see a woman that I think is beautiful, I might say, "wow, she's really pretty; don't you think she's pretty?" I would not say... "wow she's got a great rack and a nice ass." See the difference? :D
citizen-k
05-03-2004, 01:37 PM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay)
It's simple.
Do you know what man think when they look at woman?
Now, think what a man thinks when another man is looking at him as if he was a woman...
This the the basic reason for homophobia...
But why does that bother you? I've been hit on by women, and it didn't bother me. I just explained that I wasn't interested. It didn't make me question my sexuality. I don't really mind if another woman finds me attractive. Why would it bother you if another man found you attractive?
A. It doesn't bother me.
B. You clearly have no idea what man are thinking when they look at a woman ;) (thought you did)
(Lets just say it feels like its very painful rofl )
citizen-k
05-03-2004, 01:38 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:
rofl That wasn't really what I meant, Jack. When I see a woman that I think is beautiful, I might say, "wow, she's really pretty; don't you think she's pretty?" I would not say... "wow she's got a great rack and a nice ass." See the difference? :D
No.
When we see a woman that we think is beautiful we think: "oh man, I wish I could have #@!@@# and then I'd #@!$@#$ and after that @%@!% and then some more $##$@#..."
Now - thats what man think that gay man think when they are looking at them.
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:39 PM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay)
Ok, to give an example to you: Do you like to see girls kissing or doing other things? I like to see it but most girls say it is disgusting. Lesbians are usually no Problem for men, but homosexual men are.
It doesn't bother me any more than seeing a hetero couple making out. I don't want to see it period. Holding hands in public is okay... I just don't want to see people making out... regardless of whether they are gay or straight. What they do at home isn't my business, and I'm not threatened by it.
I don't think I'm going to get an answer to my question. Perhaps men don't know why they are more threatened by homosexuality than are women. I was just curious. :D
So, a real man go around sticking his dick up another man's butt and then brag about it on a forum? Maybe that's YOUR definition of a "real" man in Finland, but that doesn't apply here in the U.S. :roll: Did you know that Tom of Finland became famous in the USA? And he became famous all over the world due to becoming famous in the USA? Don't say that there are no HARDCORE HOMOS (different thing than a GAY or QUEER) in U.S. army, Navy or Marines.
According to Tom of Finland, the true man knows when another man is his "woman". It's the ULTIMATE MACHO IDEOLOGY!!!
So Caraway, how long did you spend in the Big House?
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 01:41 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:
rofl That wasn't really what I meant, Jack. When I see a woman that I think is beautiful, I might say, "wow, she's really pretty; don't you think she's pretty?" I would not say... "wow she's got a great rack and a nice ass." See the difference? :D
Babe, men think with our penis 80% of the time. Do you even know what we are thinking when we look at someone who is attractive?
Caraway
05-03-2004, 01:43 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:No. You should just RAPE that guy to prove your girlfriend that no other man can step on your shoes. To prove that YOU are the ONLY man that can supress the other guys. I think your girlfriend would like it.
citizen-k
05-03-2004, 01:43 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:
rofl That wasn't really what I meant, Jack. When I see a woman that I think is beautiful, I might say, "wow, she's really pretty; don't you think she's pretty?" I would not say... "wow she's got a great rack and a nice ass." See the difference? :D
Babe, men think with our penis 80% of the time. Do you even know what we are thinking when we look at someone who is attractive?
Thats what I'm trying to tell her... :cantbeli:
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:No. You should just RAPE that guy to prove your girlfriend that no other man can step on your shoes. To prove that YOU are the ONLY man that can supress the other guys. I think your girlfriend would like it.
Yup, definetly an ex-con.
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 01:47 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:No. You should just RAPE that guy to prove your girlfriend that no other man can step on your shoes. To prove that YOU are the ONLY man that can supress the other guys. I think your girlfriend would like it.
WTF??!!! Sorry, but i'm not a finn. YOU go do that.
p.s. aren't you the same dickhead who wanted to rape someone sister/mother/wife?
You need help, son.
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 01:48 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:
rofl That wasn't really what I meant, Jack. When I see a woman that I think is beautiful, I might say, "wow, she's really pretty; don't you think she's pretty?" I would not say... "wow she's got a great rack and a nice ass." See the difference? :D
Babe, men think with our penis 80% of the time. Do you even know what we are thinking when we look at someone who is attractive?
Thats what I'm trying to tell her... :cantbeli:
okay... so the difference is... that anytime you think someone is attractive you are thinking about having sex with them? Women, on the other hand, can find someone attractive without thinking of sleeping with them.
My real question was why you all find it so threatening for someone to call you gay, but no one seems able to answer that one.
Caraway
05-03-2004, 01:49 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:No. You should just RAPE that guy to prove your girlfriend that no other man can step on your shoes. To prove that YOU are the ONLY man that can supress the other guys. I think your girlfriend would like it.
Yup, definetly an ex-con. No, I'm not. I just happen to have a very good picture about social circles about the army and about men... Read some socialpsychology and you know what I mean. Btw. gays or queers are not accepted, but the macho-homos are a different thing...everyone are affraid of them.
Ichhabe
05-03-2004, 01:50 PM
farmgirl asked:
I don't think I'm going to get an answer to my question. Perhaps men don't know why they are more threatened by homosexuality than are women. I was just curious.
Well, you deserve an answer: Problem is that young men does not "know" why they are homophobic. Because man, and specially men are living in flocks and are under treamendous peer-preassure it is easy for them to despise gays. Why?
Because they feel threatened by them. And for what all it is worth: will not be identified with them either.
This homophobia occure mostly when men are young. I was like that too when I was younger, even though I did not gay bash, I sure didn't wanna be identified with them.
But as you grow older, you also grow more secure. But still, some are very homophogic even in their "mature" years.
Reading some of the replies in here, a lot of the so called "men" in here have still a lot of growing to do.
Those pictures by Tom of Finland. They are not my cup of tea, but I do not get offended by them, and not threathened either.
But why are Caraway, Mustamato and Uninen insisting teenage boys should get a dose of gay porn to become "real men"?
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 01:54 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:No. You should just RAPE that guy to prove your girlfriend that no other man can step on your shoes. To prove that YOU are the ONLY man that can supress the other guys. I think your girlfriend would like it.
You need to seek for help, NOW!
So, I'll rape you mother, sister or wife. You'll have to watch that kid growing to look like me. You'll have to feed my child!
I hope you can handle that...after all you are anti-abortion!
Caraway
05-03-2004, 01:57 PM
WTF??!!! Sorry, but i'm not a finn. YOU go do that. No, I will not. I was just telling you how the Tom of Finland attitude works.
p.s. aren't you the same dickhead who wanted to rape someone sister/mother/wife? Yes, I am, but it was about the abortion and has nothing to do with this. And I publicly apologised for that.
You need help, son. Do I, really?
Is the rape obsession another byproduct of your studies, Caraway?
Btw, why is it necessary for teenagers to get familiar with SM gay porn?
HELEX
05-03-2004, 02:01 PM
Is the rape obsession another byproduct of your studies, Caraway?
Btw, why is it necessary for teenagers to get familiar with SM gay porn?
Because it exists?
mustamato
05-03-2004, 02:04 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:No. You should just RAPE that guy to prove your girlfriend that no other man can step on your shoes. To prove that YOU are the ONLY man that can supress the other guys. I think your girlfriend would like it.
You need to seek for help, NOW!
What I wrote in your "Why are girls more psycho than boys"-thread. It´s not
really my words, although I don´t necessarily disagree with it. I understand what
Caraway tries to say, you obviously don´t.
Because teen girls most find a man that can take care of and protect their children.
Just like how animals fight each other the impress da ladiez. The winner gets tha ho,
that´s also why girls like dangerous men rather than nerds. The nerd can´t protect
the children and her. Money = wealth is also a factor that is good for the children
and her, rather than some poor but otherwise perfect dude.
Even though we live in a modern society today man have not done that "a very long
time", and we don´t change that fast. We are essentially still people living in caves
more or less. That is atleast the anthropological answer to your question Jack.
This is a view that is more popular in US than in Europe by the way. In the field
of archaeology in the 60´s a dude named Lewis R. Binford started something that
became called "New Archaeology", or Processual Archaelogy, "we must be more
scientific and anthropological" he said. In processual archaeology modern primitive
cultures are studied to gain understanding of the past, and of how humans in a non-
hight tech society lives, what valus they have and so forth. We are essentially
still like them, even though we sit in front of our computers. I´d say that you Jack
with your narcissism is a clear example of that.
What is the difference between seeing you half-naked and Tom of Finland´s boyz?
HELEX
05-03-2004, 02:08 PM
Hum.... I could imagine Jack Mehoff thinks a homosexual relationship to himself is ok. rofl
Hes the worst Narcissus I' ve ever seen.
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 02:09 PM
What is the difference between seeing you half-naked and Tom of Finland´s boyz?
There is a huge difference between narcissism and groping other men in your pictures. As for caraway's rape comments, are you that stupid to defend that too?
By the way, you might as well stay away from the beach and swimming pool.
Caraway
05-03-2004, 02:28 PM
There is a huge difference between narcissism and groping other men in your pictures. Not really.
As for caraway's rape comments, are you that stupid to defend that too?I guess you are that stupid to accept an apology. I guess you are that stupid to realize what ppl are really talking about. Besides, Trigger said that he does not care anymore (he is OK?, I hope).
Jack Mehoff
05-03-2004, 02:33 PM
I don't get your rape jokes, please forgive me :roll:
RomanS
05-03-2004, 02:37 PM
Holly **** BALLS
It is official, Masturbato is GAY
I had that feeling for a while, but GADAMN this is the fagliest thing I've ever seen.
So you enjoy the sasuage huh fag?
There is a huge difference between narcissism and groping other men in your pictures. Not really.
As for caraway's rape comments, are you that stupid to defend that too?I guess you are that stupid to accept an apology. I guess you are that stupid to realize what ppl are really talking about. Besides, Trigger said that he does not care anymore (he is OK?, I hope).
That must be the cultural insensitivity thing. While rape stories and homoerotic art are normal dinner talk in Finland and Sweden, bigots elsewhere refuse to have interest in them.
HELEX
05-03-2004, 02:42 PM
Btw. did you know that the Superbowl is gay???
http://www.milkandcookies.com/links/6396/
:lol:
Caraway
05-03-2004, 03:03 PM
That must be the cultural insensitivity thing. While rape stories and homoerotic art are normal dinner talk in Finland and Sweden, bigots elsewhere refuse to have interest in them.Get real. Yeah, you would like to think so. I hope that the real world does not come as a surprise to you.
ronin2172
05-03-2004, 03:19 PM
Maybe I should take my wife downtown and say something like this to the first man I see "Honey, that guy is soo cutteee and he has a great ass". It'll be interesting to see her reaction. :roll:
rofl That wasn't really what I meant, Jack. When I see a woman that I think is beautiful, I might say, "wow, she's really pretty; don't you think she's pretty?" I would not say... "wow she's got a great rack and a nice ass." See the difference? :D
Babe, men think with our penis 80% of the time. Do you even know what we are thinking when we look at someone who is attractive?
Thats what I'm trying to tell her... :cantbeli:
okay... so the difference is... that anytime you think someone is attractive you are thinking about having sex with them? Women, on the other hand, can find someone attractive without thinking of sleeping with them.
My real question was why you all find it so threatening for someone to call you gay, but no one seems able to answer that one.
the only answer is it's a macho thing. In society we r constantly challenged on our manliness and if someone thinks we r gay well it f***s with our ego and masculinity. So most of us react vehemently when we percieve our sexuality is being challenged.
I'm not a homophobe but at the same time that ain't my style. So I really don't want to be approached by any male who thinks i'm cute or thinks i look good. Other than that i couldn't give two s**ts what anyone else does for pleasure.
Stavka
05-03-2004, 03:45 PM
That must be the cultural insensitivity thing. While rape stories and homoerotic art are normal dinner talk in Finland and Sweden, bigots elsewhere refuse to have interest in them.
Ahem, I beg to differ, dear sir.
Rape stories and homoerotic art are normal dinner talk in Finland, in Sweden we only discuss IKEA and Animal sex. The best thing to talk about ever is having animal sex at IKEA.
Now go do a few push-ups while chanting:
"I am sorry for mixing up cultural preferences regarding dinner conversation... I am sorry for mixing up cultural preferences regarding dinner conversation... I am sorry for mixing up cultural preferences regarding dinner conversation..." and so forth.
Off you go! Make it at least 40 push-ups btw. ;)
rofl
*cleans coffee off the monitor*
MaDuce
05-03-2004, 05:00 PM
mustamato likes big sweaty men
Caraway
05-03-2004, 05:03 PM
Well, there is the man (MaDuce) ready to obey Tom of Finland doctrine! woot
Uninen
05-03-2004, 05:09 PM
i must be very inshure of my manhood , and that's why i preffer to see some beautifull women body ,
Yep,
Thats what they all say, until they come out from the closet.... seriously, if it bothers you so much, whose forcing you to watch? ;)
citizen-k
05-03-2004, 05:14 PM
That must be the cultural insensitivity thing. While rape stories and homoerotic art are normal dinner talk in Finland and Sweden, bigots elsewhere refuse to have interest in them.
Ahem, I beg to differ, dear sir.
Rape stories and homoerotic art are normal dinner talk in Finland, in Sweden we only discuss IKEA and Animal sex. The best thing to talk about ever is having animal sex at IKEA.
Now go do a few push-ups while chanting:
"I am sorry for mixing up cultural preferences regarding dinner conversation... I am sorry for mixing up cultural preferences regarding dinner conversation... I am sorry for mixing up cultural preferences regarding dinner conversation..." and so forth.
Off you go! Make it at least 40 push-ups btw. ;)
rofl rofl rofl
(I just imagened mutamato having sex with a Syrian goat on my IKEA coffee table)
UkrainianAmerican
05-03-2004, 05:54 PM
WOW!
No wonder the Finns like the draft so much!
And I was considering going to FInalnd to try out their Saunas :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
Ichhabe
05-03-2004, 06:06 PM
WOW!
No wonder the Finns like the draft so much!
And I was considering going to FInalnd to try out their Saunas :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
You can still go, just remember to bring a larger jar of vazeline than first attended. ;)
UkrainianAmerican
05-03-2004, 06:09 PM
WOW!
No wonder the Finns like the draft so much!
And I was considering going to FInalnd to try out their Saunas :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
You can still go, just remember to bring a larger jar of vazeline than first attended. ;)
:cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
:lol:
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 09:51 PM
I was just thinking.... some of those guys look an awful lot like The Village People. Which came first... ??? ;)
Uninen
05-03-2004, 10:03 PM
'Tom' did, way before.... :oops:
Fintin
05-03-2004, 10:04 PM
this thread so ruined no pants time by the way
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 10:05 PM
'Tom' did, way before.... :oops:
I know... I was just kidding... ;) Maybe they patterned themselves after some of his art. The similarities are numerous. :D
California Joe
05-03-2004, 10:07 PM
Wait till Mustie starts his Robert Mapplethorpe tribute thread. ;)
farmgirl
05-03-2004, 10:09 PM
Wait till Mustie starts his Robert Mapplethorpe tribute thread. ;)
He's got some hot pictures.... feel free to post some ;)
Uninen
05-03-2004, 10:09 PM
Yep....
Tom of Finland
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Tom of Finland (May 8, 1920 - 1991) was born Touko Laaksonen in Kaarina, Finland, was a fetish artist who was notable for his homoerotic art. "Tom" sounds more like Touko than any other English name, so he really is Tom of Finland. Stored images of masculine Finnish laborers from an early age and recreated these in his drawings. Known for his physique drawings, he is also famous for the "Kake" series featuring lumberjacks, motorcycle policemen, sailors, businessmen, bikers and leathermen, Tom's favorite subjects.
;)
ibstolidude
05-03-2004, 11:19 PM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay) uhhh stop being so gay - fm.
farmgirl
05-04-2004, 01:18 AM
Okay... a couple of serious questions...
Why is it that men view being called "gay" as a bigger insult than do women? You will never hear women insulting each other by accusing the other of being gay. Are you really that worried about appearing to be masculine that you would get all bent out of shape if someone insults you in such a manner?
Is this a phenomenon among young guys, or do older, more established men still view being called gay the ultimate insult?
Last question....
Can you appreciate another man's looks or style without being considered gay? I ask, because Nawlins and I had this discussion last night. We both said that we appreciate the beauty that we see in other women and comment on it. I used to point good looking women out to John, but he would never have pointed good looking men out to me. (admitting that he noticed another man's looks would have somehow made him gay) uhhh stop being so gay - fm.
Didn't I tell you? p-)
James
05-04-2004, 02:52 PM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom002.jpg
What is that lump? Is there something in his pocket?
UkrainianAmerican
05-04-2004, 02:55 PM
Uggggh, I didnt look until you mentioned it.
:-*$
Javehn
05-04-2004, 02:56 PM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom002.jpg
What is that lump? Is there something in his pocket?
OMG , hehehehe , there is :lol:
:fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork:
farmgirl
05-04-2004, 02:56 PM
He just really likes lumberjacking. :D
mustamato
05-04-2004, 02:56 PM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom002.jpg
What is that lump? Is there something in his pocket?
Looks like a old classic Nokia 3110, remember that Tom of Finland passed away
already in 1991, the technology was not that advanced back then
http://www.portablefrance.com/portables/imagens/modelos/nokia-3110.jpg
Nokia 3110
Javehn
05-04-2004, 02:58 PM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom002.jpg
What is that lump? Is there something in his pocket?
Looks like a old classic Nokia 3110, remember that Tom of Finland passed away
already in 1991, the technology was not that advanced back then
http://www.portablefrance.com/portables/imagens/modelos/nokia-3110.jpg
Nokia 3110
Ha ?
That's some humour of yours , no ?
James
05-04-2004, 03:01 PM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tomF.h12.gif
Hey, this guy is a Sergeant in the USMC! That's what I used to look like, except I was a Corporal. ;)
UkrainianAmerican
05-04-2004, 03:03 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
farmgirl
05-04-2004, 03:03 PM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tomF.h12.gif
Hey, this guy is a Sergeant in the USMC! That's what I used to look like, except I was a Corporal. ;)
Nice abs.... ;) Do you still have those?
Javehn
05-04-2004, 03:05 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
He wears boxers ;)
James
05-04-2004, 03:05 PM
I no longer have a six pack. Now I have a pony keg... :P
MarineDEP4
05-04-2004, 03:06 PM
oh jees, this is the first time i have seen this thread. this is too funny.
mustamato
05-04-2004, 03:06 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
Hm? You should go and see a doctor my friend if your penis doesn´t stand up when
you have a "boner". Those in the pants are simply Finnish penises in unhorny mode.
In horny mode:
http://home.att.net/~meatus/endow/tom.jpg
Image shows a gay porno scene, so be warned
UkrainianAmerican
05-04-2004, 03:06 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
He wears boxers ;)
Word.
Herrmannek
05-04-2004, 03:09 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
Hm? You should go and see a doctor my friend if your penis doesn´t stand up when
you have a "boner". Those in the pants are simply Finnish penises in unhorny mode.
In horny mode:
http://home.att.net/~meatus/endow/tom.jpg
Image shows a gay porno scene, so be warned
My eyes..Burns ..Put graphic dislimer madafaka :fork:
farmgirl
05-04-2004, 03:09 PM
I no longer have a six pack. Now I have a pony keg... :P
six packs are overrated..... :D
James
05-04-2004, 03:09 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
I think it's because these fellows are looking at attractive ladies.
MarineDEP4
05-04-2004, 03:10 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
I think it's because these fellows are looking at attractive ladies.
rofl
Jack Mehoff
05-04-2004, 03:11 PM
I no longer have a six pack. Now I have a pony keg... :P
six packs are overrated..... :D
blah :petting:
farmgirl
05-04-2004, 03:12 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
I think it's because these fellows are looking at attractive ladies.
I'm quite certain that you are correct, Jamie. Why does everyone assume that Tom is gay? I don't get it. Obviously we can't see what the subjects are viewing. :D
Javehn
05-04-2004, 03:12 PM
OMFGJAMC
My eyes , mother ****er , my eyes !!!!
Mustamato . You don't even do a little effort to convince us you aren't a gay ?????
I gonna pock my eyes with a fork now , and hurl my sowl away .
And you Mustamato , go play with a pickle in your tushy .
UkrainianAmerican
05-04-2004, 03:14 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
I think it's because these fellows are looking at attractive ladies.
I'm quite certain that you are correct, Jamie. Why does everyone assume that Tom is gay? I don't get it. Obviously we can't see what the subjects are viewing. :D
Follow mustamatos link.
Javehn
05-04-2004, 03:16 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
I think it's because these fellows are looking at attractive ladies.
I'm quite certain that you are correct, Jamie. Why does everyone assume that Tom is gay? I don't get it. Obviously we can't see what the subjects are viewing. :D
Follow mustamatos link.
NO !!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD , DON'T !! IF YOU CARE YOUR MENTHAL HEALTH , DON'T CLICK ON MUSTAMATO LINK !!!!
:fork: :fork: :fork: :fork: :fork:
Jack Mehoff
05-04-2004, 03:17 PM
Mustabator is a nazi and a homosexual. Now, that's what I call a great 1,2 combo. I"m at work so i'm afraid to click on Mus' link.
James
05-04-2004, 03:18 PM
Hey everbody, what do you think of my new avatar?
UkrainianAmerican
05-04-2004, 03:18 PM
Hey everbody, what do you think of my new avatar?
Faggoty.
Herrmannek
05-04-2004, 03:19 PM
Hey everbody, what do you think of my new avatar?
http://www.eslkidstuff.com/images/throwupbw.gif
farmgirl
05-04-2004, 03:19 PM
Hey everbody, what do you think of my new avatar?
rofl Very nice, James.... How youuuuuu doin'? ;)
James
05-04-2004, 03:20 PM
Thank you Marydawn Farmsiren.
mustamato
05-04-2004, 03:20 PM
Mustamato . You don't even do a little effort to convince us you aren't a gay ?????
I´m not gay :) I started out this whole thread because of Maine Finn´s complaints
on that Uninen and me gave a bad image of other Finns. Since you have all already
heard about saunas and Nokia´s I just took some other example. Of course I could
have written something about Kalevala (see page 2 here) or Jean Sibelius, but I
don´t think the average visitor here cares much about culture.
farmgirl
05-04-2004, 03:21 PM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
I think it's because these fellows are looking at attractive ladies.
I'm quite certain that you are correct, Jamie. Why does everyone assume that Tom is gay? I don't get it. Obviously we can't see what the subjects are viewing. :D
Follow mustamatos link.
That was called sarcasm. :petting:
Javehn
05-04-2004, 03:23 PM
Mustamato , i think you should have kept this artist to yourself .....
Away away from here . Some people don't have the same art appreciation as you :| .
This one , and plus the pics you posted in the hunks thread, make me wonder what's really going on on those Saunas :| :| :| .
James
05-04-2004, 03:23 PM
I will keep this avatar if Jack Mehoff approves. Otherwise, it is back to my WWI grunt.
Jack?
Jack Mehoff
05-04-2004, 03:24 PM
whatever floats your boat James
farmgirl
05-04-2004, 03:25 PM
I will keep this avatar if Jack Mehoff approves. Otherwise, it is back to my WWI grunt.
Jack?
nice tattoo.... do you have a rose on your pec too? p-)
James
05-04-2004, 03:26 PM
whatever floats your boat James
I sense disapproval... Oh well
Trigger
05-04-2004, 03:32 PM
OK, I need a friggin' shower now....eeeeeeewww!
Put the grunt back James...please.
Fintin
05-04-2004, 03:33 PM
i say no....it scares the children....
James
05-04-2004, 03:33 PM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom07.jpg
I think this is Trigger.
farmgirl
05-04-2004, 03:35 PM
OK, I need a friggin' shower now....eeeeeeewww!
Put the grunt back James...please.
rofl You know you like it, Trig.... ;)
Fintin
05-04-2004, 03:37 PM
slips back to the babes thread....looks at hot irish girl...::yep it still work:: that was close
Hey everbody, what do you think of my new avatar?
If you actually look like that James you're lucky because you're a very attractive man.
I'd really like it if you and I could meet up sometime.
You know, so we can go and find some hot girls.
2Sheds_Jackson
05-04-2004, 04:55 PM
Cripes the nipples on these guys rival the George Clooney Batman costume. This is like the crap I used to draw in high school, well, except they were girls. How exactly is it that this guy became so well known for such cheesy illustration? Surely there was something else that could have been posted to elevate our opinion of Finns.
James
05-04-2004, 05:12 PM
Hey everbody, what do you think of my new avatar?
If you actually look like that James you're lucky because you're a very attractive man.
I'd really like it if you and I could meet up sometime.
You know, so we can go and find some hot girls.
Thanks for the complement, Gaz. I would LOVE to meet sometime.
So we can meet some hot chicas. :P
Uninen
05-04-2004, 07:23 PM
Hey everbody, what do you think of my new avatar?
Its cool, and is "military related" like the previous one also... ;)
Its US Army related actually, if you look at the rank and the uniform.... :P
Falco
05-04-2004, 08:07 PM
Am I ever glad I missd this thread
born_to_kill
05-04-2004, 08:11 PM
http://img54.photobucket.com/albums/v165/odoyle/000_0245.jpg
farmgirl
05-05-2004, 12:32 AM
Hey everbody, what do you think of my new avatar?
If you actually look like that James you're lucky because you're a very attractive man.
I'd really like it if you and I could meet up sometime.
You know, so we can go and find some hot girls.
Thanks for the complement, Gaz. I would LOVE to meet sometime.
So we can meet some hot chicas. :P
I know where you can find some.... ;)
just sayin'
James
05-05-2004, 04:36 AM
:D
James
05-05-2004, 04:42 AM
Hey everbody, what do you think of my new avatar?
Its cool, and is "military related" like the previous one also... ;)
Its US Army related actually, if you look at the rank and the uniform.... :P
I believe that it is USMC, Not USA - there appear to be corssed rifles under the chevrons, indicating a Marine.
Just a thought.
Jack Mehoff
05-05-2004, 04:42 AM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
Hm? You should go and see a doctor my friend if your penis doesn´t stand up when
you have a "boner". Those in the pants are simply Finnish penises in unhorny mode.
In horny mode:
http://home.att.net/~meatus/endow/tom.jpg
Image shows a gay porno scene, so be warned
I finally click on your link and this is what I think.http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/anym/behead.gif
http://forumspam.articblue.nl/user_related/fag/images/0157.jpg
ronin2172
05-05-2004, 04:52 AM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
Hm? You should go and see a doctor my friend if your penis doesn´t stand up when
you have a "boner". Those in the pants are simply Finnish penises in unhorny mode.
In horny mode:
http://home.att.net/~meatus/endow/tom.jpg
Image shows a gay porno scene, so be warned
I finally click on your link and this is what I think.http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/anym/behead.gif
http://forumspam.articblue.nl/user_related/fag/images/0157.jpg
LOL he is making this TOO easy....Mustamoto u must b a glutton for pinishment! that or seriously twisted sense of self depricating humor.
Javehn
05-05-2004, 05:00 AM
Why does this tom, ALWAYS have a BONER?
Hm? You should go and see a doctor my friend if your penis doesn´t stand up when
you have a "boner". Those in the pants are simply Finnish penises in unhorny mode.
In horny mode:
http://home.att.net/~meatus/endow/tom.jpg
Image shows a gay porno scene, so be warned
I finally click on your link and this is what I think.http://mindscraps.com/s/contrib/anym/behead.gif
http://forumspam.articblue.nl/user_related/fag/images/0157.jpg
I talled you not to klick , unless you want to be blind for the rest of the life ...
Simpen
05-05-2004, 05:04 AM
http://www.greenfaces.se/upload/uploads/babyjesus.jpg
HELEX
05-05-2004, 05:48 AM
I nearly pissed my Pants reading all those comments. :lol:
http://forumspam.articblue.nl/thread_related/thread_rocks/images/0478.jpg
Ichhabe
05-05-2004, 10:58 AM
The funny thing is that these gay bashers can't stay out of this thread. They have to click on the url's that is put out here. They have to look at the pictures over and over again so they can be "disgusted". Oh Man! That is so funny. rofl
Some of them have probably saved the pics aswell, so when this thread fade away, they can have a look at these "horrible" pictures in the future and still be "upset". Well, have a good time enjoying homoerotic art and be "angered". You need it soooo much. :D
Uninen
05-05-2004, 11:42 AM
The funny thing is that these gay bashers can't stay out of this thread. They have to click on the url's that is put out here.
:lol:
To tell you the truth, i actually myself hate homos/gay people (but i arent homophobic), but then again im not here bashing anybody, cause after all this topic isnt about anything else than mustamato bullying all you homophobic and insecure little peoples...
It not like his actually himself a one, and futhermore, some people, like Farmgirl might actually enjoy even the "art part" of this topic.... :D
Javehn
05-05-2004, 11:50 AM
Ok , then there is a contradiction here , Uninen . You see , you hate gays (that's what you said) . Mustamato is gay (let's say for the fun he is ) . Then you hate Mustamato . But infact , you don't hate Mustamato , and every thread you come for his rescue . There is a basic contradiction here . Something must be wrong .
So you still not ready to come out of the closet ? :lol: ;)
Jack Mehoff
05-05-2004, 11:52 AM
The funny thing is that these gay bashers can't stay out of this thread. They have to click on the url's that is put out here. They have to look at the pictures over and over again so they can be "disgusted". Oh Man! That is so funny. rofl
Some of them have probably saved the pics aswell, so when this thread fade away, they can have a look at these "horrible" pictures in the future and still be "upset". Well, have a good time enjoying homoerotic art and be "angered". You need it soooo much. :D
Good god!! Coming from YOU? rofl rofl rofl
At least he is my homosexual-nazi boy friend.
To tell you the truth, i actually myself hate homos/gay people (but i arent homophobic)
Can you please explain to me how that works?
Ichhabe
05-05-2004, 12:00 PM
The funny thing is that these gay bashers can't stay out of this thread. They have to click on the url's that is put out here. They have to look at the pictures over and over again so they can be "disgusted". Oh Man! That is so funny. rofl
Some of them have probably saved the pics aswell, so when this thread fade away, they can have a look at these "horrible" pictures in the future and still be "upset". Well, have a good time enjoying homoerotic art and be "angered". You need it soooo much. :D
Good god!! Coming from YOU? rofl rofl rofl
At least he is my homosexual-nazi boy friend.
You really got stuck to that comment, didn't you Jackieboy? I will give you one last chance to get it, and remembering where I got that line from. Are you up for that, or are you just the ignorant that I belive you are? rofl
Uninen
05-05-2004, 12:02 PM
To tell you the truth, i actually myself hate homos/gay people (but i arent homophobic)
Can you please explain to me how that works?
Well, maybe "hate" was bad choise of words, cause i can live and be with them, but i just dont "like of that what they do", IE i do tell "gay jokes"..... :D
citizen-k
05-05-2004, 12:11 PM
To tell you the truth, i actually myself hate homos/gay people (but i arent homophobic)
Can you please explain to me how that works?
Well, maybe "hate" was bad choise of words, cause i can live and be with them, but i just dont "like of that what they do", IE i do tell "gay jokes"..... :D
rofl
That was the lamest homophobic denial I have ever heard.
Trigger
05-05-2004, 01:23 PM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom07.jpg
I think this is Trigger.
Uh...thanks James...I don't know if I should laugh or cry :D
Nice nipples BTW.
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_10.jpg
At least this one is a little ambiguous.
mustamato
05-05-2004, 01:28 PM
Jack of America
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/10148628974098872d6bbcf.jpg
Ichhabe
05-05-2004, 01:36 PM
Jack of America
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/10148628974098872d6bbcf.jpg
He is not my Jack of America. :D But I think that Tom would have loved to make a drawing of him. ;)
HELEX
05-05-2004, 01:39 PM
Jack of America
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/10148628974098872d6bbcf.jpg
He is not my Jack of America. :D But I think that Tom would have loved to make a drawing of him. ;)
Yea, I think Tom would have liked him very much.... ;)
Uninen
05-05-2004, 01:41 PM
rofl
That was the lamest homophobic denial I have ever heard.
Yeah, im so homophobic that i go to SAUNA with my mates, and we're all nude.... :cantbeli: :oops:
Midtown
05-05-2004, 02:00 PM
your a closet homo then. get your **** straight.
That´s an intereting thread. And I thought that the off topic section was boring compared with the photo section! Only that Mustamato didn´t change my opinion of Finland, a nice and quiet place for spending all the life, and I learned at school about Alvar Aalto, very popular out Finland, but they didn´t teach me of Tom of Finland; still the finns think of themselves more like farmers and peasants than the post-industrial workers they are, something that here in basque country is causing many problems since 100 years ago, I sincerely envy them because they faced the changes without struggles.
And the only time that Mustamato don´t talk of the winter war and every body criticises him, I don´t understand why. My only complaint about Finland is that Carlos Sainz only got 2 world rallies championships because of finns.
About Tom of Finland, well, the drawings are good, although I´ve seen better artists, I think that Tom of Finland should have painted the covers of Village People, it´s clearly the indicated musical group for him. And about gay art, if you like it, I don´t have any problem, only that´s not my favourite. I only have a question: why do the gay hunks keep their equipment over the left leg? They do the same like bullfighters, but toreros must do it if they want to have childrens some day, because you know they kill the bull jumping toward its head and over the right horn of the bull, which it´s usually very sharp-pointed, and so many bullfighters were injured in the right leg and even killed becasue they were cut the femoral artery, but losting the right leg always is better than losting your personal equipment. I´m sure Tom of Finland would like looking to bullfighters more than to bulls, many gays often go to bullfights.
http://www.platayoro.org/images/museo/pepehillo/pp20.jpg
http://marbella.to/humour/dec00/torero.jpg
citizen-k
05-05-2004, 02:27 PM
your a closet homo then. get your **** straight.
His boyfriend is doing it for him rofl
Jack Mehoff
05-05-2004, 02:30 PM
Just remind me to bring my metal underwear with steel plate if I ever visit Finland. Nothing but queers and penis-puffers up there.
Jack Mehoff
05-05-2004, 02:34 PM
The funny thing is that these gay bashers can't stay out of this thread. They have to click on the url's that is put out here. They have to look at the pictures over and over again so they can be "disgusted". Oh Man! That is so funny. rofl
Some of them have probably saved the pics aswell, so when this thread fade away, they can have a look at these "horrible" pictures in the future and still be "upset". Well, have a good time enjoying homoerotic art and be "angered". You need it soooo much. :D
Good god!! Coming from YOU? rofl rofl rofl
At least he is my homosexual-nazi boy friend.
You really got stuck to that comment, didn't you Jackieboy? I will give you one last chance to get it, and remembering where I got that line from. Are you up for that, or are you just the ignorant that I belive you are? rofl
By the way homo-nazi-lover, I'm not going to take a lesson about tolerance from a nazi-lover, YOU.
It's very contradictory because nazi and tolerance really shouldn't go together.
kinghk
05-05-2004, 02:59 PM
Just remind me to bring my metal underwear with steel plate if I ever visit Finland. Nothing but queers and penis-puffers up there.
Why did you purchase that type of underwear ?
Jack Mehoff
05-05-2004, 03:03 PM
Just remind me to bring my metal underwear with steel plate if I ever visit Finland. Nothing but queers and penis-puffers up there.
Why did you purchase that type of underwear ?
To protect myself from gays like ichhabe, mustabator and uninen.
Fintin
05-05-2004, 03:04 PM
Just remind me to bring my metal underwear with steel plate if I ever visit Finland. Nothing but queers and penis-puffers up there.
Why did you purchase that type of underwear ?
everyone in the states has a pair...they hand them out on street corners...
Caraway
05-05-2004, 03:16 PM
To protect myself from gays like ichhabe, mustabator and uninen. It's nice to hear that you are not protected from me then. Come to Finland, Jack. The Big Daddy is waiting....metal plates can't protect you. p-)
rofl rofl rofl
kinghk
05-05-2004, 03:18 PM
Just remind me to bring my metal underwear with steel plate if I ever visit Finland. Nothing but queers and penis-puffers up there.
Why did you purchase that type of underwear ?
To protect myself from gays like ichhabe, mustabator and uninen.
Have you covered your roof with metal plates in case of meteor "attacks" as well?
Ichhabe
05-05-2004, 04:36 PM
Just remind me to bring my metal underwear with steel plate if I ever visit Finland. Nothing but queers and penis-puffers up there.
Why did you purchase that type of underwear ?
To protect myself from gays like ichhabe, mustabator and uninen.
Why Jack? Seems like you quite enjoy getting it here. rofl
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/jack/jack-mehoff6.jpg
Jack Mehoff
05-05-2004, 04:40 PM
I believe a Euro homo drew that. Can't a man posts his picture online without you Euro photoshop it to fulfilled your sick, homosexual fantasies? :(
Ichhabe
05-05-2004, 04:48 PM
I believe a Euro homo drew that. Can't a man posts his picture online without you Euro photoshop it to fulfilled your sick, homosexual fantasies? :(
Sorry. This was drawn "on scene". Isn't it from your latest movie?
Just remind me to bring my metal underwear with steel plate if I ever visit Finland. Nothing but queers and penis-puffers up there.
Make sure you protect your mouth as well. With your strong build you are probably able to suck a golf ball through a garden hose and boy, would all us Finnish Faggots take advantage of that!
Jack Mehoff
05-05-2004, 05:14 PM
Just because you Finn like to discuss homosexual and rape stories around your dinner time doesn't mean everybody else are like that. Finnish women are too damn ugly or what? That explains why Finland has the highest suicide rate in the world.
Ichhabe
05-05-2004, 05:19 PM
Just because you Finn like to discuss homosexual and rape stories around your dinner time doesn't mean everybody else are like that. Finnish women are too damn ugly or what? That explains why Finland has the highest suicide rate in the world.
What I wonder is why you keep on comming back to this thread if it is discusting you. It seems like you seek something tabooish to forefill a "secret" dream. Damn, you would look hot in a Navy uniform. :D
Jack Mehoff
05-05-2004, 05:20 PM
At least he is my homosexual-nazi boy friend.
Just because you Finn like to discuss homosexual and rape stories around your dinner time doesn't mean everybody else are like that. Finnish women are too damn ugly or what? That explains why Finland has the highest suicide rate in the world.
Durkheim's classic study claims that suicide rates correllate with level of social integration. High social integration - less suicides, low social integration - more suicides. To generalize, catholics for example, with high level of social integration tend to commit fewer suicides than protestants. But that's just one example.
Anyway, suicide is a social phenomena and has nothing to do with women's looks, you sexist! ;)
Dalleer
05-05-2004, 05:32 PM
Just because you Finn like to discuss homosexual and rape stories around your dinner time doesn't mean everybody else are like that. Finnish women are too damn ugly or what? That explains why Finland has the highest suicide rate in the world.
Actually, Finland does not have the highest suicide rate in the world, but a very high one nevertheless.
The Baltic countries have that title, I'm afraid.
http://www.aneki.com/suicide.html
James
05-06-2004, 03:20 PM
http://www.queeria.org.yu/arhiva/art/tom07.jpg
I think this is Trigger.
Uh...thanks James...I don't know if I should laugh or cry :D
Nice nipples BTW.
http://gay.ru/art/visual/images/tfin_10.jpg
At least this one is a little ambiguous.
You are very welcome. I think you should LAUGH! :P
California Joe
05-06-2004, 03:24 PM
This thread is out of hand.
I blame James.
I shall be forced to post my drawings of nude women soon to counteract this negative energy.
Herrmannek
05-06-2004, 03:26 PM
This thread is out of hand.
I blame James.
I shall be forced to post my drawings of nude women soon to counteract this negative energy.
Do it quickly....
James
05-07-2004, 01:51 AM
Just wanted to read more comments about this...
Caraway
05-07-2004, 01:53 AM
Tom of Finland is the MAN!!! Why did you go and change your avatar?
James
05-07-2004, 01:55 AM
Ok, ok, here you go...
Caraway
05-07-2004, 02:02 AM
Ok, ok, here you go... You bastard... Well, there is plenty of Tom of Finland's graphigs to choose from... Just Wait...
James
05-07-2004, 02:15 AM
Ok, ok, here you go... You bastard... Well, there is plenty of Tom of Finland's graphigs to choose from... Just Wait...
Hey, the Marine is MINE!
Caraway
05-07-2004, 02:17 AM
Ok, ok, here you go... You bastard... Well, there is plenty of Tom of Finland's graphigs to choose from... Just Wait...
Hey, the Marine is MINE! OK, I do not know how to put an avatar...the machine just complaints to me about the size of the picture. I can't get it...
Midtown
05-07-2004, 02:23 AM
RESIZE.
Caraway
05-07-2004, 02:24 AM
RESIZE. How?
Edit: I must be stupid.... :cantbeli:
Maine Finn
05-07-2004, 10:19 AM
RESIZE. How?
Edit: I must be stupid.... :cantbeli:
Send it to me, I'll crop it down.
ikurinturbiini
05-07-2004, 01:41 PM
Ok, ok, here you go... You bastard... Well, there is plenty of Tom of Finland's graphigs to choose from... Just Wait...
Hey, the Marine is MINE! OK, I do not know how to put an avatar...the machine just complaints to me about the size of the picture. I can't get it...
It's not the size of the picture. It's the size of the schlong of the guy in the picture.
Mustamato, who/whatever you are, you are one cold blooded mother with balls the size of Gotland for starting this topic. I give you credit for never having lost your cool, no matter what they throw at you. No wonder they hate your guts. You're so deadpan you must be a machine.
You're also something of a weirdo. I like that. I can say that now as all Finns, Swedes and Europeans have totally been exposed as gay.
ofpbhd
05-07-2004, 02:02 PM
Ok, ok, here you go... You bastard... Well, there is plenty of Tom of Finland's graphigs to choose from... Just Wait...
Hey, the Marine is MINE! OK, I do not know how to put an avatar...the machine just complaints to me about the size of the picture. I can't get it...
It's not the size of the picture. It's the size of the schlong of the guy in the picture.
Mustamato, who/whatever you are, you are one cold blooded mother with balls the size of Gotland for starting this topic. I give you credit for never having lost your cool, no matter what they throw at you. No wonder they hate your guts. You're so deadpan you must be a machine.
You're also something of a weirdo. I like that. I can say that now as all Finns, Swedes and Europeans have totally been exposed as gay.
:|
Caraway
05-07-2004, 02:05 PM
This thread has a HARD ON. Oh...!!!
RomanS
05-07-2004, 02:06 PM
You're also something of a weirdo. I like that. I can say that now as all Finns, Swedes and Europeans have totally been exposed as gay
true that
true that
Caraway
05-07-2004, 02:07 PM
You're also something of a weirdo. I like that. I can say that now as all Finns, Swedes and Europeans have totally been exposed as gay
true that
true that Hey....we can do our foreplay in here also....slut...
Javehn
05-07-2004, 02:07 PM
You're also something of a weirdo. I like that. I can say that now as all Finns, Swedes and Europeans have totally been exposed as gay.
Oh . So it's true ? :|
It's time to ressurect invasion plan to Sweden and Finland . Suomi is ours !!
Caraway
05-07-2004, 02:08 PM
You're also something of a weirdo. I like that. I can say that now as all Finns, Swedes and Europeans have totally been exposed as gay.
Oh . So it's true ? :|
It's time to ressurect invasion plan to Sweden and Finland . Suomi is ours !! Threesome?
Javehn
05-07-2004, 02:14 PM
Threesome ? You mustamato and Uni ? No , you have it your way , i have it my way . :lol: ;) I don't want to be one of the Teletubies gang .
Caraway
05-07-2004, 02:18 PM
Threesome ? You mustamato and Uni ? No , you have it your way , i have it my way . :lol: ;) I don't want to be one of the Teletubies gang . Your foreplay is getting more interesting....you obviously don't have any idea what wait's you at the end of the road, do you boy....rrrrrrr....ohhh. Play with meee... :hug:
*kissing Javehns ear, smootly...*
foxtrot023
05-07-2004, 02:21 PM
You're also something of a weirdo. I like that. I can say that now as all Finns, Swedes and Europeans have totally been exposed as gay.
Sorry, but why are you dragging everyone into this. I am european and don`t feel gay at all, even married an american girl. On the other hand, if you say this `bout europeans, what must we think of you guys when you have program like queer as folk, queer eye for the straight guy, will and grace, etc.
RomanS
05-07-2004, 02:22 PM
Threesome ? You mustamato and Uni ? No , you have it your way , i have it my way . :lol: ;) I don't want to be one of the Teletubies gang . Your foreplay is getting more interesting....you obviously don't have any idea what wait's you at the end of the road, do you boy....rrrrrrr....ohhh. Play with meee... :hug:
w o w
Javehn, we should go now ...
Caraway
05-07-2004, 02:24 PM
Threesome ? You mustamato and Uni ? No , you have it your way , i have it my way . :lol: ;) I don't want to be one of the Teletubies gang . Your foreplay is getting more interesting....you obviously don't have any idea what wait's you at the end of the road, do you boy....rrrrrrr....ohhh. Play with meee... :hug:
w o w
Javehn, we should go now ... Hey, boyzz don't go I have so much looove to give you.... *licks permiinskiOMON's face, smootly*
Javehn
05-07-2004, 02:25 PM
w o w
Javehn, we should go now ...
I am way ahead of you !!
I am driving like a rocket away , and called for an air strike on Suomi .
**** , what is this ? I am smelling sperm ? Caraway , did you burp ?
Caraway
05-07-2004, 02:26 PM
I am way ahead of you !!
I am driving like a rocket away , and called for an air strike on Suomi .
**** , what is this ? I am smelling sperm ? Caraway , did you burp ? So you wanna be my rocket/sperm boy....OK...you naughty boy....
Javehn
05-07-2004, 02:29 PM
i thought you all passive faggots . Stay away from me , you passive faggot .
Here is the picture of Mustamato and the gang :
http://www.willieluinge.nl/teletubies.jpg
Mustamato , Uninen (retired :lol: ) , Caraway and Truthsayer (Cocksmoker) .
Queer .
Midtown
05-07-2004, 02:31 PM
WHAT THE ****
ikurinturbiini
05-07-2004, 02:34 PM
You're also something of a weirdo. I like that. I can say that now as all Finns, Swedes and Europeans have totally been exposed as gay.
Sorry, but why are you dragging everyone into this. I am european and don`t feel gay at all, even married an american girl. On the other hand, if you say this `bout europeans, what must we think of you guys when you have program like queer as folk, queer eye for the straight guy, will and grace, etc.
I'm European, but I'm not offended if you mistook me for an American.
This is a humour thread. Even SpermskiiHOMO got that part. Now if he could just drag his diabetic, fat, slant-eyed ass away from our big European Nazi homo orgy.
I'm going to put on my Finnish Army rubber boots and get nasty, and unless you feel like joining the action, piss off.
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