Bataleur MRL

[wilhelm]

Hi Mirlo

Further to you query over at the SAAF forum, here are some pictures of the South African Bataleur MRL. Does anyone have any info on these systems?

[Mirlo]

Thank you to open the thread wilhelm!!!!!!

Best regards

Mirlo

[Ironsight06]

It's nice that you are interested in South African hardware, but is it really necessary to crosspost it over 3 different forums?

[Mirlo]

Yes, you are right I will center everything in this forum!!! I was looking for South africans, who I thought the should have more info.

Bets regards

Mirlo

[Mirlo]

Can I use the standard data of the SAMIL truck for the Bateleur??

Best regards

Mirlo

[wilhelm]

I'm not sure. I know that there were various armoured variants of the SAMIL 100, so perhaps using them as a data standard would be better.

[Mirlo]

This is a picture of the SAMIL ¿? but in the armoured version:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8148/samil100kwevoeltrucksoual8.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2503/samil100kwevoeltrucksoucy7.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4927/samil100kwevoeltrucksoudj5.jpg

and some data of the SAMIL 100 trucks.

SAMIL 100 Specifications

Drive
Permanent 6x6
Engine
Deutz F10L 413F
V10, air cooled
15953 cc
235 Kw @ 2500 rpm
1020 Nm @ 1500 rpm
Gearbox
ZF S6-90
6 Fwd Speeds (Synchro)
Transfer Box
ZF Z90
High & Low ranges
Differential Lock
Axles
Differential Lock (Rr. bogey)
Wheels & Tyre
Single wheel all-round
1400 x 20” Steering
Power Assisted
Brakes
Air duplex system
Exhaust Brake
Suspension
Leaf Springs
Shock absorbers on front axle

Dimensions of the SAMIL 100

Overall Length........9250 mm
Overall Width.........2450 mm
Overall Height........3020 mm
Wheelbase............5250/1380 mm

Ground Clearance...355 mm


Masses of the SAMIL 100

Tare...............................21000 kg
GVM...............................9135 kg
D/T................................31000 kg
Payload – Max..................11865 kg
Payload – Min. (Off-road)...10000 kg

Best regards

Mirlo

[Mirlo]

More things:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8082/bateleurma3.jpg




This second generation version of the Valkiri 22 MRL, fitted on a SAMIL 100 all terrain vehicle, fires 40 rocket rounds, either singularly or in ripples of 20 rounds. The entire set of 40 rockets can be fired within 46 seconds. The larger truck is fitted with a armoured cabin for the 5 member crew and allows sufficient space for rations, stores and water for a 14 day field excursion.




Calibre: 127 mm
Crew: 5
Number of barrels: 40
Elevation: 0° to 55°
Traverse: ±110°
Traverse movement: Manual
Rocket length: 2,6m (standard); 2,95m (extended)
Mass: 54 kg (standard); 62 kg (extended)
Rocket motor: Double base solid propellant
Rate of fire: 1/sec
Ripple selection: 1 to 40
Reload time: 10 min
Range: 8 000 - 22 000 m


I think that the range shold be wrong, as far as I know the range is 35-36 km.

Best regards

Mirlo

[exT70]

This is a picture of the SAMIL ¿? but in the armoured version:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8148/samil100kwevoeltrucksoual8.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2503/samil100kwevoeltrucksoucy7.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4927/samil100kwevoeltrucksoudj5.jpg

and some data of the SAMIL 100 trucks.

SAMIL 100 Specifications

Drive
Permanent 6x6
Engine
Deutz F10L 413F
V10, air cooled
15953 cc
235 Kw @ 2500 rpm
1020 Nm @ 1500 rpm
Gearbox
ZF S6-90
6 Fwd Speeds (Synchro)
Transfer Box
ZF Z90
High & Low ranges
Differential Lock
Axles
Differential Lock (Rr. bogey)
Wheels & Tyre
Single wheel all-round
1400 x 20” Steering
Power Assisted
Brakes
Air duplex system
Exhaust Brake
Suspension
Leaf Springs
Shock absorbers on front axle

Dimensions of the SAMIL 100

Overall Length........9250 mm
Overall Width.........2450 mm
Overall Height........3020 mm
Wheelbase............5250/1380 mm

Ground Clearance...355 mm


Masses of the SAMIL 100

Tare...............................21000 kg
GVM...............................9135 kg
D/T................................31000 kg
Payload – Max..................11865 kg
Payload – Min. (Off-road)...10000 kg

Best regards

Mirlo

Those are not Samil 100's. The pics are from the Army Recog site and are of a Samil 50 Kwê, pics might have been taken at veh graveyard at GSB Y in Cape Town. I have in the past tried to correct them (army recog), but address given on website is not working. The Samil 100, 50 and 20 are ordinary (Magirus Deutz) unarmoured and unprotected trucks (currently being seriously neglected - but that is another thread). The "Kwê" versions are hardened and mine protected (mostly cab only) and come in various guises (from APC to horsebox to towtruck to whatever). Most are Samil 100 Kwê's (based on Samil 100 chassis). The Samil 50 version shown in the pics are quite scarce

The Batteleur indeed uses the Samil 100 chassis, but an upgraded one (I think similar to the "Withings"/recovery version). The double-cab is also not standard.

On an aside. If the Yanks bought the 100's and 100's of Kwê's lying neglected and unused in SA veh parks in 2003 for their convoys when their troubles started, how much money in airlift, lives and bad press would they have saved to date??

[Mirlo]

Thank you very much!!! Do you have info regarding the Kwevoel Trucks??? and regarding the Rockets that the Bateleur fire??

Best regards

Mirlo

[wilhelm]

I might have something at home. Will look tonight.

[wilhelm]

Don't know how to enbed, but here is the Bataleur over at youtube.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qb2StlnfN1Y&mode=related&search=

[Mirlo]

Wow!!! Wonderful video!!!!

Thanks a lot!!!!

Mirlo

[Mirlo]

Has the SA Army any idea about the Bateleur Replacement??

Best regards

Mirlo

[exT70]

Has the SA Army any idea about the Bateleur Replacement??

Best regards

Mirlo

Bateleur newer than both G5 and G6, so probably not due for replacement anytime soon.