Rev. Jerry Falwell dead

[muttbutt]

LYNCHBURG, Va. (AP) - The Rev. Jerry Falwell, who founded the Moral Majority and built the religious right into a political force, died Tuesday shortly after being found unconscious in his office at Liberty University, a school executive said. He was 73.

Ron Godwin, the university's executive vice president, said Falwell, 73, was found unresponsive around 10:45 a.m. and taken to Lynchburg General Hospital. "CPR efforts were unsuccessful," he said.

Godwin said he was not sure what caused the collapse, but he said Falwell "has a history of heart challenges."

"I had breakfast with him, and he was fine at breakfast," Godwin said. "He went to his office, I went to mine, and they found him unresponsive."
:|.............

[Chulo]

Rip .

[Hellfish]

No loss. The guy was a fundamentalist prick.

[California Joe]

F*ck him, he was an asshole.

[muttbutt]

F*ck him, he was an asshole.
I played it safe with (:|), but I agree, he's no great loss to the World.

[California Joe]

I'm not slamming religion in any way, but this joker was on the same level with carnies as far as I'm concerned. In the same league with Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggert as opposed to Billy Graham.

[Mastermind]

I bet Larry Flynt is trying to jump up and down about now. Ha...he'll probably throw an orgy party to celebrate.

[muttbutt]

I'm not slamming religion in any way, but this joker was on the same level with carnies as far as I'm concerned. In the same league with Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggert as opposed to Billy Graham.100% agree, Televangelist's are basically con men with media access, religion is religion, Falwell and his ilk turned it into some kind of bussiness

[muttbutt]

I bet Larry Flynt is trying to jump up and down about now. Ha...he'll probably throw an orgy party to celebrate.
Who know's, there could be a miracle and Larry will be able to walk jump dance and hump once more....God willingp-)

[Firetxmi]

Some "enlightened" Falwell Quotes:



AIDS is not just God's punishment for homo******s; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homo******s.
-- Jerry Falwell

God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homo******s, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev Pat Robertson agreed, quoted from John F Harris, "God Gave US 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)

Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell

[IraGlacialis]

You won't see me shed a tear for him, that self-serving, scripture-twisting, politicizing, asshole. I don't much like him.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070515/capt.111720efabbb440b9580167e2545717a.obit_falwell_ny119.jpg?x=380&y=285&sig=xIyHNCkrJAMEnn0RqX9rKA--

[kamaz]

good riddance, a big F to him and his sheep.

[nullterm]

Its sad that people like him could say such hateful things. The even sadder thing is that some people listen to it and believe it.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Bye bye. Doubt he'll end up where he thought he was going.

[deadtired]

Its sad that people like him could say such hateful things. The even sadder thing is that some people listen to it and believe it.

Well hell, you prefix it the "God/Muhammed/the Great Pumpkin says," and it's really not hard. Doesn't say much for humanity, but it's the truth.

[demotivater]

Some "enlightened" Falwell Quotes:

Those sound like they're straight out of the Westboro Baptist Church handbook.

[Chulo]

hey, hate, fundamentalism and bigotry go both ways

[Roy Batty]

Hope you like Brimstone douchebag. Good ridance

[Abolith]

"it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea."

scripture twisters have but one place to go...and it isn't a happy one....


good riddance to that lying arsehat

[Laworkerbee]

I bet Larry Flynt is trying to jump up and down about now. Ha...he'll probably throw an orgy party to celebrate.

thinking the same, the is going to be one hell of a party in the Flynnt building tonight. If I see anything funny there after work I will post pictures.

[socom6]

Cant say that I would miss him. As a matter of fact GOOD RIDDANCE.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

In this thread, I see an outpouring of hatred against a man for being...hateful.

A little cognitive dissonance here?

[Roy Batty]

Megaraptor;2499709']In this thread, I see an outpouring of hatred against a man for being...hateful.

A little cognitive dissonance here?

Don't make us turn on you. This crowd is just itching for a target p-)

[szr]

He wasn't my cup o' tea, but Rest In Peace.

[Kilgor]

Megaraptor;2499709']In this thread, I see an outpouring of hatred against a man for being...hateful.

A little cognitive dissonance here?

Intolerance to Intolerance is perfectly acceptable IMO

Another fundamentalist douchebag that is six feet under is a positive.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Intolerance to Intolerance is perfectly acceptable IMO

That would make you an intolerant bigot, meaning you should hate yourself from now on.

[Hellfish]

Megaraptor;2499720']That would make you an intolerant bigot, meaning you should hate yourself from now on.

What are you, a ****ing lawyer?

[IraGlacialis]

Megaraptor;2499720']That would make you an intolerant bigot, meaning you should hate yourself from now on.
Does... not... compute...
Meh, a little self loathing doesn't hurt. As long as you don't become emo.

Oh, and I still loathe Falwell, Phelps, OBL, and every inbred who warps any kind of scripture to their own means.

[Merfeller]

I won't celebrate his death or anything, but I'm really not at all feeling sad or contemplative about this. Usually when a prominent figure dies I automatically try to remember as much as I can about the person and his/her work. In Fallwell's case all I can think of is that he was one of the craftiest hustlers and scam artists we've known in the States, and not at all beneficial to anyone but himself.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Does... not... compute...

If you are intolerant of intolerant people, you are being intolerant.

If you hate all intolerant people, you are intolerant, and you must therefore hate yourself.

Or, you could just do as I do and accept that intolerance is not always bad. For example, our society being intolerant of armed robbery is a good thing.


What are you, a ****ing lawyer?

Don't hate me 'cause I tell you 2+2=4...

[IraGlacialis]

BTW, when I left school, the flag was at half staff.
Please tell me someone else died (not that it is a good thing).

[szr]

BTW, when I left school, the flag was at half staff.
Please tell me someone else died (not that it is a good thing).
Where do you go to school? (city/state, not school name)

[IraGlacialis]

Harrisonville, MO.
(Or you can take the long way and plug in those coordinates I have on my location profile :))

[wicked_hind]

OH HELL NO! Please don't say they lowered the flag for him! :fork:

[Aerosoul]

Megaraptor;2499739']If you are intolerant of intolerant people, you are being intolerant.

If you hate all intolerant people, you are intolerant, and you must therefore hate yourself.

Or, you could just do as I do and accept that intolerance is not always bad. For example, our society being intolerant of armed robbery is a good thing.


This isn't about being intolerant of crime. It is about being intolerant of ****bags like Falwell, Bakker, and Swaggert using religion as a tool to preach hate and intolerance of others, because of how some people live their lives (while not harming anyone else). Picking and choosing religious text for an agenda designed to make money and be heard by people too goddamn stupid to know any better.

Falwell is dead, and I am very happy about it.

[szr]

Harrisonville, MO.
(Or you can take the long way and plug in those coordinates I have on my location)
No need. You just told me--Harrisonville, MO. ;)

You sure the flags aren't still half-staff because of VT?

[IraGlacialis]

You sure the flags aren't still half-staff because of VT?
Yep. They were just lowered today.
The half-staff for VT was reversed after a week had passed.

[SoliDeoGloria]

How can you seriously wish him to go to hell? How can you seriously be happy that another human is dead? Grow the **** up and get little respect for life. I met the man a few times....Im not a fan of all his policies but id like to see your sources for those quotes...cause that man was a great father and husband...and he did alot of good for alot of people. More then most of the arm chair warriors around this place.

[Hellfish]

He wasn't a human being. He was a piece of ****.

[SoliDeoGloria]

This isn't about being intolerant of crime. It is about being intolerant of ****bags like Falwell, Bakker, and Swaggert using religion as a tool to preach hate and intolerance of others, because of how some people live their lives (while not harming anyone else). Picking and choosing religious text for an agenda designed to make money and be heard by people too goddamn stupid to know any better.

Falwell is dead, and I am very happy about it.

This is about the saddest thing ive ever read. First off this are just biased, rude, and disrespectful opinions that have no base. And second the man really did love God. He never used religion to preach hate. Sure he doesnt agree with homo******ity, but thats what most evangelicals believe because it is biblical.

[Hellfish]

This is about the saddest thing ive ever read. First off this are just biased, rude, and disrespectful opinions that have no base. And second the man really did love God. He never used religion to preach hate. Sure he doesnt agree with homo******ity, but thats what most evangelicals believe because it is biblical.

Do you let your wife wear pants? Do you eat shellfish?

Hating homo******ity and telling others to do so is pretty much as definitive of preaching hate as you can get.

[IraGlacialis]

Even if he didn't preach hate (which I usually hear on the contrary from him), he politicized religion, which, besides being immoral in my view, can tend to lead to really bad things.

[Aerosoul]

Biased, rude, and disrespectful? OH MY!

Take your head out of your ass! Or should I say Falwell's ass? You fancy Falwell didn't you? You sick pervert, when people like you homo******s are annihilated there will be a celebration in heaven! (A la another Falwell quote)

Get f*cked AFO.

[kamaz]

How can you seriously wish him to go to hell? How can you seriously be happy that another human is dead? Grow the **** up and get little respect for life. I met the man a few times....Im not a fan of all his policies but id like to see your sources for those quotes...cause that man was a great father and husband...and he did alot of good for alot of people. More then most of the arm chair warriors around this place.



dude.. please. he blamed 9/11 on feminism and gay people. you cant get more retarded and evil thinking than that. So he raised his kids, good for him, so did bin Laden, it doesnt make them good people, considering the things they said and did.

good riddance.

[GrimReaper]

Rip ........

[deadtired]

No need. You just told me--Harrisonville, MO. ;)

You sure the flags aren't still half-staff because of VT?

The flag at my job (in an airport) is at half staff as well. Can't be for this guy.

[SoliDeoGloria]

Where are your sources for all these quotes of his?

[SoliDeoGloria]

Do you let your wife wear pants? Do you eat shellfish?

Hating homo******ity and telling others to do so is pretty much as definitive of preaching hate as you can get.


Gen Peter Pace doesnt agree with homo******s being in the military so you must hate him to....

[Hellfish]

He doesn't blame them for the downfall of western society.

And stop trying to change the subject.

[Roy Batty]

Honestly I could care less about the man. I would'nt have wished him ill necessarily but he did strike me as an a$$hole. I'm just not a big fan of forcing religion onto people I guess. Anyway here is the first spot I found with 20 seconds of searching; http://thinkexist.com/quotes/jerry_falwell/


Oh and as for Gen Pace and his opinions; Soldiers should'nt make policy they should just enforce it.

Cheers

[SoliDeoGloria]

On another note...speaking of intolerance....and the lot of you seem to be so fair and just and all knowing arm chair warriors...Gen Jerry Boykin one of Americas most decorated soldiers believes Islam is a religion of hate and that Jesus is the Messiah. He also believes that Satan is using Islam to destroy America. He served as Deltas Commanding officer and im sure most of the posers on this website would give anything to suck his ****. Would you be happy with him dead to for being 'intolerant'?

[IraGlacialis]

On another note...speaking of intolerance....and the lot of you seem to be so fair and just and all knowing arm chair warriors...Gen Jerry Boykin one of Americas most decorated soldiers believes Islam is a religion of hate and that Jesus is the Messiah. He also believes that Satan is using Islam to destroy America. He served as Deltas Commanding officer and im sure most of the posers on this website would give anything to suck his ****. Would you be happy with him dead to for being 'intolerant'?
He would probably piss me off. However, until he starts politicizing his opinion, I won't think much of it besides it being the rantings of a bigot.

[Roy Batty]

....and the lot of you seem to be so fair and just and all knowing arm chair warriors...


You really are starting to annoy me with that crap. There are more than a few serving soldiers on this forum.

[SoliDeoGloria]

\
Honestly I could care less about the man. I would'nt have wished him ill necessarily but he did strike me as an a$$hole. I'm just not a big fan of forcing religion onto people I guess. Anyway here is the first spot I found with 20 seconds of searching; http://thinkexist.com/quotes/jerry_falwell/


Oh and as for Gen Pace and his opinions; Soldiers should'nt make policy they should just enforce it.

Cheers

I agree soldiers shouldnt make policy as well...as for that quote page it still doesnt list sources.

[SoliDeoGloria]

You really are starting to annoy me with that crap. There are more than a few serving soldiers on this forum.

You are totally right, and i would be one of them.

[Hellfish]

On another note...speaking of intolerance....and the lot of you seem to be so fair and just and all knowing arm chair warriors...Gen Jerry Boykin one of Americas most decorated soldiers believes Islam is a religion of hate and that Jesus is the Messiah. He also believes that Satan is using Islam to destroy America. He served as Deltas Commanding officer and im sure most of the posers on this website would give anything to suck his ****. Would you be happy with him dead to for being 'intolerant'?

We're not talking about him.

And knock it off with your armchair warrior bull****. I did my time.

[Aerosoul]

On another note...speaking of intolerance....and the lot of you seem to be so fair and just and all knowing arm chair warriors...Gen Jerry Boykin one of Americas most decorated soldiers believes Islam is a religion of hate and that Jesus is the Messiah. He also believes that Satan is using Islam to destroy America. He served as Deltas Commanding officer and im sure most of the posers on this website would give anything to suck his ****. Would you be happy with him dead to for being 'intolerant'?

Go to the airsoft section if you want to chastise the hoo-rah 16 year olds.

Do I want him dead just for his opinion? No. Do I want people like Falwell, Phelps, Bakker, and Swaggert dead for the way they promote their beliefs? Yes. They're scum.

[Roy Batty]

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/jerry_falwell.html

http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/foulwell.htm

http://www.hatecrime.org/subpages/hatespeech/robertson.html

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Jerry_Falwell/

http://american******ity.blogspot.com/2007/05/rev-jerry-falwells-greatest-hits.html

I believe that would be what you call : "widely attributable to..." :)


( That was just the first page of a Google search)
Cheers

[IraGlacialis]

And knock it off with your armchair warrior bull****. I did my time.
x2
And I admit to being a civilian that will stay a civilian.

PS: I see a lock in the future.

[SoliDeoGloria]

We're not talking about him.

And knock it off with your armchair warrior bull****. I did my time.


Then knock it off with the..."no loss"..."im glad hes dead" attitude. I brought him up because you seem to think Jerry Falwell deserved to die, and was some gay bashing intolerant prick. Using the standards that you judge Mr. Falwell you would presumably judge Gen Boykin the same way.

[kamaz]

Where are your sources for all these quotes of his?

here you go. maybe you can get your head out of falwell's ass and realize what a creepy hateful prick he really was.



God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homo******s, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev Pat Robertson agreed, quoted from John F Harris, "God Gave US 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)



The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev Pat Robertson again agreed, quoted from AANEWS #958 by American Atheists (September 14, 2001)



And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, "You helped this happen."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homo******s, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, quoted from John F Harris, "God Gave US 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)



I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, America Can Be Saved, 1979 pp. 52-53, from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom


The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, Sermon, July 4, 1976



The Jews are returning to their land of unbelief. They are spiritually blind and desperately in need of their Messiah and Savior.
-- Jerry Falwell, Listen, America!


I do not believe the homo****** community deserves minority status. One's misbehavior does not qualify him or her for minority status. Blacks, Hispanics, women, etc., are God-ordained minorities who do indeed deserve minority status.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, USA Today Chat, quoted from The Religious Freedom Coalition, "The Two faces of Jerry Falwell"





echh.. what a disgusting human being.

[Robbee]

On another note...speaking of intolerance....and the lot of you seem to be so fair and just and all knowing arm chair warriors...Gen Jerry Boykin one of Americas most decorated soldiers believes Islam is a religion of hate and that Jesus is the Messiah. He also believes that Satan is using Islam to destroy America. He served as Deltas Commanding officer and im sure most of the posers on this website would give anything to suck his ****. Would you be happy with him dead to for being 'intolerant'?

Can you source your quotes on Gen. Boykin?

[SoliDeoGloria]

Jerry Falwell:

God hates homo******ity
"god hates homo******ity" - Jerry Falwell on TV (I've seen the actual footage)


Oh yeah thats a great source...Im not denying that at times they may have said some stupid things. But what pisses me off is this attitude prevalent on this thread that he deserved to die, and that he did absolutely nothing good for society. Which is total bull****.

[Hellfish]

Then knock it off with the..."no loss"..."im glad hes dead" attitude. I brought him up because you seem to think Jerry Falwell deserved to die, and was some gay bashing intolerant prick. Using the standards that you judge Mr. Falwell you would presumably judge Gen Boykin the same way.

He was a gay bashing intolerant prick.

It's irrelevant if Boykin is one too. If he said such things, that'll just make him a high speed intolerant prick. Just because he's Delta doesn't mean I have to agree with him - or to use your phrase "suck his ****."

[D-gin]

Oh well........I sure as hell won't shed a tier.

[Roy Batty]

He was a gay bashing intolerant prick.

It's irrelevant if Boykin is one too. If he said such things, that'll just make him a high speed intolerant prick. Just because he's Delta doesn't mean I have to agree with him - or to use your phrase "suck his ****."

It is a "don't ask, don't tell" army................even for Delta. Lol

p-)

[SoliDeoGloria]

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0520-03.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1016-01.htm
Gen Boykin

[Hellfish]

Jerry Falwell:

Oh yeah thats a great source...Im not denying that at times they may have said some stupid things. But what pisses me off is this attitude prevalent on this thread that he deserved to die, and that he did absolutely nothing good for society. Which is total bull****.


I don't think he did anything good for society. I think he deserved to die. He did nothing but spread hate and intolerance. He's no better than the fundamentalist imams in the ME.

[kamaz]

he was a christian fundamentalist supremacist who told people of all faiths that if they didnt follow the christian religion, they would go to hell. very similarly to what bin Laden and his types believe.

[IraGlacialis]

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0520-03.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1016-01.htm
Gen Boykin
Medals don't mean jack **** if the recipient is a complete tool.

EDIT: Lokking closer, he isn't even criticisng Islam, but Islamic extremism. HE even make a reference about KKK being hypocritical Christians.

[mas-36]

About the flags at half staff (in the USA) : Today was the National Day of Rememberance for all police men and women who were killed or were disabled while in the line of duty. That is why all flags were at half staff today.

As for Falwell, r.i.p. , but I won't miss him at all.

[SoliDeoGloria]

I don't think he did anything good for society. I think he deserved to die. He did nothing but spread hate and intolerance. He's no better than the fundamentalist imams in the ME.

Yeah cause you know he condoned the slaughtering of innocent people, the enslavement of women, and enforced sharia law....uh huh.....hes just as bad as fundamentalist imams alright....

[Hellfish]

Yeah cause you know he condoned the slaughtering of innocent people, the enslavement of women, and enforced sharia law....uh huh.....hes just as bad as fundamentalist imams alright....

I think he is. He'd just as soon tell me what to think, believe, and say as would any other religious asshole in Syria or Iran.

[SoliDeoGloria]

he was a christian fundamentalist supremacist who told people of all faiths that if they didnt follow the christian religion, they would go to hell. very similarly to what bin Laden and his types believe.

He preached, "Jesus is the way the truth, and the life, and that no one comes to the father but by him." Not go out and kill innocent civilians and you will get 72 virgins in paradise....thats a little different.

[kamaz]

Yeah cause you know he condoned the slaughtering of innocent people, the enslavement of women, and enforced sharia law....uh huh.....hes just as bad as fundamentalist imams alright....


dude seriously, are you some pissed off christian? yes, he is just as bad as the islamo fundies, because he shares many of their beliefs. the only reason he couldnt keep women in the house, gays in psycho wards and minorities in the gutter is because our country is diverse and wouldnt let an idiot like falwell in power.

he was a rotten, hate-filled man, and im not sure why youre so adamantly sticking up for a p.o.s. like falwell.

[SoliDeoGloria]

I think he is. He'd just as soon tell me what to think, believe, and say as would any other religious asshole in Syria or Iran.

Well the good thing about America is...its his opinion and you dont have to believe it! where as in Syria or Iran they would kill you if you didnt believe it....slight difference.

[IraGlacialis]

About the flags at half staff (in the USA) : Today was the National Day of Rememberance for all police men and women who were killed or were disabled while in the line of duty. That is why all flags were at half staff today.
Thank goodness.
And I didn't know that. I raise a toast (non-alcoholic of course) to them.

[kamaz]

He preached, "Jesus is the way the truth, and the life, and that no one comes to the father but by him." Not go out and kill innocent civilians and you will get 72 virgins in paradise....thats a little different.

yeah, so quotes like these arent hateful right... theyre factual. i cant believe we are dealing with this kind of stupidity in the 21st century.

You'll be riding along in an automobile. You'll be the driver perhaps. You're a Christian. There'll be several people in the automobile with you, maybe someone who is not a Christian. When the trumpet sounds you and the other born-again believers in that automobile will be instantly caught away -- you will disappear, leaving behind only your clothes and physical things that cannot inherit eternal life. That unsaved person or persons in the automobile will suddenly be startled to find the car suddenly somewhere crashes.... Other cars on the highway driven by believers will suddenly be out of control and stark pandemonium will occur on ... every highway in the world where Christians are caught away from the drivers wheel.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, in his pamphlet, "Nuclear War and the Second Coming of Christ," quoted from Ronnie Dugger,"Does Reagan Expect a Nuclear Armageddon?" in Washington Post Outlook (April 8, 1984)

[Hellfish]

Well the good thing about America is...its his opinion and you dont have to believe it! where as in Syria or Iran they would kill you if you didnt believe it....slight difference.

Exactly. The only thing that stood between this asshole and me was our government. We're lucky. That doesn't make him less evil - it just means that our form of government is able to restrict assholes like him.

[Roy Batty]

Yah Fish. He would'nt kill ya (or at least he was'nt allowed to) he just wanted to damn your eternal soul to the pits of hell.

[IraGlacialis]

Mmmm... toasty fires of Hell.

[kamaz]

Exactly. The only thing that stood between this asshole and me was our government. We're lucky. That doesn't make him less evil - it just means that our form of government is able to restrict assholes like him.

exactly. if falwell had his way, there would be no separation of church and state, everyone (no matter what your religion) would get mandatory jesus lessons and gay people would get dragged off to jail.

thank god nutjobs like him are limited to tv and radio, and not the halls of power.

[Hellfish]

exactly. if falwell had his way, there would be no separation of church and state, everyone (no matter what your religion) would get mandatory jesus lessons and gay people would get dragged off to jail.

thank god nutjobs like him are limited to tv and radio, and not the halls of power.

It'd be a lot worse than that. Mandatory church, persecution of all non-Christians...

[IraGlacialis]

exactly. if falwell had his way, there would be no separation of church and state, everyone (no matter what your religion) would get mandatory jesus lessons and gay people would get dragged off to jail.
Don't forget people of other faiths, especially the "Christ Killers".

[SoliDeoGloria]

yeah, so quotes like these arent hateful right... theyre factual. i cant believe we are dealing with this kind of stupidity in the 21st century.

You'll be riding along in an automobile. You'll be the driver perhaps. You're a Christian. There'll be several people in the automobile with you, maybe someone who is not a Christian. When the trumpet sounds you and the other born-again believers in that automobile will be instantly caught away -- you will disappear, leaving behind only your clothes and physical things that cannot inherit eternal life. That unsaved person or persons in the automobile will suddenly be startled to find the car suddenly somewhere crashes.... Other cars on the highway driven by believers will suddenly be out of control and stark pandemonium will occur on ... every highway in the world where Christians are caught away from the drivers wheel.
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, in his pamphlet, "Nuclear War and the Second Coming of Christ," quoted from Ronnie Dugger,"Does Reagan Expect a Nuclear Armageddon?" in Washington Post Outlook (April 8, 1984)

Yeah no joke, can you actually believe people think we come from cosmic soup that magically swirled around and gave life...and then fishies became birds and then monkies and now us? Its a crazy crazy world i tell you...

[Robbee]

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0520-03.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1016-01.htm
Gen Boykin

I still can't find the specific references where he said "Islam is a religion of hate..." or "Satan is using Islam to destroy America."

Anyway, he went on the record about it here. (with video)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/15/60II/main643650.shtml

[stonecutter]

He was part of the reason people call the religious right in the U.S. the "American Taliban".

No RIP for you!

[kamaz]

Yeah no joke, can you actually believe people think we come from cosmic soup that magically swirled around and gave life...and then fishies became birds and then monkies and now us? Its a crazy crazy world i tell you...


you gona argue with me about evolution now? ding ding ding, round is over. im not wasting my time on your stupidity.

[SoliDeoGloria]

No im not going to argue over evolution...some of you just need to learn to respect life a little more, and realize the media doesnt always give the full picture of a person.

[Hellfish]

No im not going to argue over evolution...some of you just need to learn to respect life a little more, and realize the media doesnt always give the full picture of a person.

He spoke for himself plenty.

[kamaz]

No im not going to argue over evolution...some of you just need to learn to respect life a little more, and realize the media doesnt always give the full picture of a person.

it aint the media, its his own hate filled, christian-only, gay and minority bashing sermons, speeches and views that spoke plenty.

[IraGlacialis]

dude seriously, are you some pissed off christian? yes, he is just as bad as the islamo fundies, because he shares many of their beliefs. the only reason he couldnt keep women in the house, gays in psycho wards and minorities in the gutter is because our country is diverse and wouldnt let an idiot like falwell in power.
Well, it used to. Women belonged in the kitchen, blacks should be seperate or in the trees, oh, and you can't forget them evil Japs and immigrants.
But that isn't the point.

[SoliDeoGloria]

it aint the media, its his own hate filled, christian-only, gay and minority bashing sermons, speeches and views that spoke plenty.

minority bashing? Oh please...

[D-gin]

it aint the media, its his own hate filled, christian-only, gay and minority bashing sermons, speeches and views that spoke plenty.
Yep, It's to bad a human passed on but he did nothing more then help bring a bad name to religion.

[SoliDeoGloria]

Yep, It's to bad a human passed on but he did nothing more then help bring a bad name to religion.

There are alot of people who bring a bad name to religion. I put no stock in religion.

[D-gin]

There are alot of people who bring a bad name to religion. I put no stock in religion.

Neither do I in most counts, but to me people like him bring a bad name to people (like me) of faith as well and not just religion.


I should have put that in my first post.

[kamaz]

take the Usama Bin Laden or Jerry Falwell quiz

see how you do

http://www.funnystrange.com/quiz/



tough quiz i must say.

[gaijinsamurai]

The world is a better place without him in it. Good riddance.

[Ruutiukko]

That's one person I certainly won't miss, good riddance.

[8thidpathfinderpower]

Rev. Jerry Falwell....a man with a vision? or a vision of corruptness, idlotry, biggetry, and hatred....I think he is the latter.

[gaijinsamurai]

As an American who is Agnostic, and largely-Libertarian in my political views, I despise anyone who seeks to limit my rights or those of my friends and family.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

It'd be a lot worse than that. Mandatory church, persecution of all non-Christians...


Don't forget people of other faiths, especially the "Christ Killers".

Do you guys have any evidence that Falwell held anti-semitic views and wanted to restrict religious freedom, or are you just pulling stuff out of your butts?

[Gogf]

Apparently Falwell was too left-wing for Fred Phelps:


WBC [Phelp's church] will preach at the memorial service of the corpulent false prophet Jerry Falwell, who spent his entire life prophesying lies and false doctrines like "God loves everyone"...Falwell is in Hell, Praise God!!

[IraGlacialis]

Hehehe... Phelps just called Falwell corpulent. Add the obese to the list of people Westboro hates.

Megaraptor;2500341']Do you guys have any evidence that Falwell held anti-semitic views and wanted to restrict religious freedom, or are you just pulling stuff out of your butts?
"Jimmy Cater's message of peace and reconciliation under almost all circumstances is simply incompatible with Christian teachings as I interpret them. This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us."
In a radio interview on March 4, 2002, Falwell said of former President Jimmy Carter (who I think is also a tool)
(BTW: Turn the other cheek was exactly what Christ died for)

"I think Muhammad was a terrorist. I read enough by both Muslims and non-Muslims, [to decide] that he was a violent man, a man of war."
An interview given on September 30, 2002, for the October 6 edition of 60 Minutes.
(Yes, possibly a man of war, but a terrorist?)

"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country." (Sermon, July 4, 1976)

"I do question the sincerity and non-violent intentions of some civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Mr. James Farmer, and others, who are known to have left-wing associations."
A Testament of Hope: the essential writings of Martin Luther King

"The Jews are returning to their land of unbelief. They are spiritually blind and desperately in need of their Messiah and Savior."
Listen, America!

[muttbutt]

Megaraptor;2500341']Do you guys have any evidence that Falwell held anti-semitic views and wanted to restrict religious freedom, or are you just pulling stuff out of your butts?
Well he was ever so slightly hypocritical in his own views, he formed something of an alliance with ultra right wing Jewish organisations demanding that the Jewish state not give any land to the Palistinians or have a peace deal, even if it meant continual war, of coure that was for his own reasons, Isreal has to be in it's historical entirety for the second coming, guess what happens then...yes the Jews all die, but thats cool Jesus will be back in the house and thats all that matters
...he was a twisted weasley old douchbag, he wasn't a spiritual man, he was a religious one, there is a diffrence, the good spiritual people are out there busting their ass's caring for the poor feeding the hungry, and saving the sick, he was riding around in private jets and living in a mansion, God has a special place for people like that

any bets that the funeral will be a huge over the top spectecal?


BTW,Boykin maybe of been OmFG Detla, he's still a bit of prick....good soldier, not a pleasent person.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

"Jimmy Cater's message of peace and reconciliation under almost all circumstances is simply incompatible with Christian teachings as I interpret them. This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us."
In a radio interview on March 4, 2002, Falwell said of former President Jimmy Carter (who I think is also a tool)
(BTW: Turn the other cheek was exactly what Christ died for)

"I think Muhammad was a terrorist. I read enough by both Muslims and non-Muslims, [to decide] that he was a violent man, a man of war."
An interview given on September 30, 2002, for the October 6 edition of 60 Minutes.
(Yes, possibly a man of war, but a terrorist?)

"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country." (Sermon, July 4, 1976)

"I do question the sincerity and non-violent intentions of some civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Mr. James Farmer, and others, who are known to have left-wing associations."
A Testament of Hope: the essential writings of Martin Luther King

"The Jews are returning to their land of unbelief. They are spiritually blind and desperately in need of their Messiah and Savior."

I see very little that was hateful there, except for the first quote...certainly less so than many posters on MP.net.

The last one isn't racist against jews, he's simply saying that he doesn't think Jews are following the correct religion.

[Aerosoul]

I don't think he was anti-semitic. In fact, he is quoted as saying he believes the Jews are the chosen people of God. Obviously there is some contradiction with what was posted above though, so who knows.
However, he was still about every other damn thing he is said to have been in this thread.

[Jobu]

As far as I can tell he was just a religious guy who stuck to the teachings of the bible as he interpretted it.

He was anti-gay because the bible is anti-gay, etc.

I don't fault him for that. I actually expect someone who goes by the name of reverend to stick with his religious beliefs no matter what the society around him believes. That's what religion is all about.

[Aerosoul]

All people do is pick and choose from the Bible and people like Falwell spew it out to be heard by retarded masses in mega-churches to make money.

[Macs.]

As far as I can tell he was just a religious guy who stuck to the teachings of the bible as he interpretted it.

Replace Bible with Koran and you got a good description of your standard islamic terrorist. :)

[Jobu]

All people do is pick and choose from the Bible and people like Falwell spew it out to be heard by retarded masses in mega-churches to make money.

And he made a ****load of money then used some of it to create a big-ass church and a big-ass new University.

All-in-all I'd say he's done more good with his money than most of the super-wealthy.

[Jobu]

Replace Bible with Koran and you got a good description of your standard islamic terrorist. :)

Bullcrap. Jerry Falwell never cut anyone's head off nor encouraged people to.
You can't compare the two without me laughing at you like I am now.

[Macs.]

Bullcrap. Jerry Falwell never cut anyone's head off nor encouraged people to.
You can't compare the two without me laughing at you like I am now.

I didn't compare them, you description just fits them both.

[Mastermind]

As far as I can tell he was just a religious guy who stuck to the teachings of the bible as he interpretted it.

He was anti-gay because the bible is anti-gay, etc.

I don't fault him for that. I actually expect someone who goes by the name of reverend to stick with his religious beliefs no matter what the society around him believes. That's what religion is all about.
And there is the rub, isn't it? We expect all religious people to follow their teachings of their chosen faith. Yet, politicians who are Catholic endorse abortion legislation...Christian Pastors endorse homo******ity and same *** marriages. What is the point of "pick and choose" dogma? It really is oxymoronic to ascribe to a belief system and then discard elements of that belief system you disagree with...and yet continue to claim adherence to it...that's being a 65% Christian or a 35% Jew or a 25% Muslim. It has been said, there is no such thing a little bit pregnant...it is either all the way or nothing....and that is why I have never found a single religion I can belong to. I formed my onw church and my own faith so I can at last be true to something I believe in. I would rather be an athiest than a hypocrit. But, I can not be an athiest since I believe in a Supreme being...:)

Jerry was, by my standards, a hypocrit...but, not more or less than any other relious leader who ever lived...and I add this qualifyer...that I know of. Perhaps St. Francis of Assisi was the least hypocritical. Perhaps some primitive Shamen were true to their spirit..who knows. But, politics and religion never mix well..Jesus knew this and made His famous "Give to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar and give to God that which is God's." speech... Thus setting the standard for all time to follow.

Falwell would have done much better to have heeded those teachings.

[muttbutt]

And there is the rub, isn't it? We expect all religious people to follow their teachings of their chosen faith. Yet, politicians who are Catholic endorse abortion legislation...Christian Pastors endorse homo******ity and same *** marriages. What is the point of "pick and choose" dogma? It really is oxymoronic to ascribe to a belief system and then discard elements of that belief system you disagree with...and yet continue to claim adherence to it...that's being a 65% Christian or a 35% Jew or a 25% Muslim. It has been said, there is no such thing a little bit pregnant...it is either all the way or nothing....and that is why I have never found a single religion I can belong to. I formed my onw church and my own faith so I can at last be true to something I believe in. I would rather be an athiest than a hypocrit. But, I can not be an athiest since I believe in a Supreme being...:)

Jerry was, by my standards, a hypocrit...but, not more or less than any other relious leader who ever lived...and I add this qualifyer...that I know of. Perhaps St. Francis of Assisi was the least hypocritical. Perhaps some primitive Shamen were true to their spirit..who knows. But, politics and religion never mix well..Jesus knew this and made His famous "Give to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar and give to God that which is God's." speech... Thus setting the standard for all time to follow.

Falwell would have done much better to have heeded those teachings.
Agreed, he dived into politics, and diluted the spiritual, intentionally/unintentionally by doing so, politics makes things grubby and stained, it's just the way it is, and it rub's off on the spiritual side no matter what you do, thats why I roll my eyes when politicians invoke God to legitimise whatever they plan to do...:|

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Falwell would have done much better to have heeded those teachings.

True. He used to criticize the Rev. martin Luther King Jr. because he said a preacher should stay out of politics. Then look what he did.

He wasn't my favorite person, it's just that all this pissing on his grave while his body was still warm and putting things in his mouth that he never said was starting to tick me off.

[Jobu]

Agreed, he dived into politics, and diluted the spiritual, intentionally/unintentionally by doing so, politics makes things grubby and stained, it's just the way it is, and it rub's off on the spiritual side no matter what you do, thats why I roll my eyes when politicians invoke God to legitimise whatever they plan to do...:|


Using God to legitimize what you do is appropriate if you truly believe you are doing these things in accordance with God's laws. Have you ever read Lincoln's 2nd inaugural address?

[muttbutt]

Using God to legitimize what you do is appropriate if you truly believe you are doing these things in accordance with God's laws. Have you ever read Lincoln's 2nd inaugural address?
You believe as you like, but I'll stand by what I believe, Politicians hear God saying what they want him/her/it to say...unless they have a red phone to the big man, any thing they say in Gods name to be done is their own...and no I'm not talkng about GWB, we have our own here too, just me, up untill the 70's here, the Church and leaders of the church could pretty much dictate Government policy.


Did Lincoln have God's Email address, to know what God was thinking?p-)

[Azreal La Mort]

(Wife)

I won't wish the man ill, though I did disagree with him. That said, this is either ironic or just wierd...

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/ Phelps and gang plan on protesting at Falwell's Funeral.

WTF???????

[Chulo]

well whats said on the website isnt very much diffrent on what people have said on this tread about him

[Mastermind]

I have re-read "The War Prayer" by Mark Twain...I came across it several years ago and kept a copy of it in my wallet for a long time...It is a really short little thing...and well worth the time. http://lexrex.com/informed/otherdocuments/warprayer.htm I think Falwell may have benefited some what by reading it...but, I doubt he ever did. Lincolins 2nd Inaugral Address has been mentioned

http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres32.html Also a good read

[nullterm]

(Wife)

I won't wish the man ill, though I did disagree with him. That said, this is either ironic or just wierd...

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/ Phelps and gang plan on protesting at Falwell's Funeral.

WTF???????

That's gotta be the strangest news of the day. :slap:

But then all Phelps does is point fingers and blame everyone else for all the ills of the world for not matching his interpretation of the scripture.

[IraGlacialis]

That's gotta be the strangest news of the day. :slap:
At first it may be, but if you read into their stuff, they actually hate other evangelicals such as Billy Graham for being too lenient about *drumroll* homo******s.

[LaoSexMachine]

It was his time.