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mohica
05-16-2007, 09:19 AM
Who is Barack Hussein Obama?


Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in
Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black Muslim from
Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita,
Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned
to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim From
Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to
Indonesia. Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta. He also spent two
years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's
introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was
temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya Soon
after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his
son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann
Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi
school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by
the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western
world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when seeking major
public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the
United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy.

It took the Muslims 10 years to pull off their plan for 9/11. The
hijackers took years to learn how to operate the planes, and it was a
diligent, thought out plan. The Muslims have said they plan on
destroying the U.S. from the inside out. What better way to start than
at the highest level?

Copy and email to everyone you know.

kosse
05-16-2007, 09:31 AM
You are not going to last long.

mohica
05-16-2007, 09:36 AM
You are not going to last long.


Yeah? Long for what?

zad
05-16-2007, 09:55 AM
you forgot that he is member founder of the black nationalsocialist party also p-)

Dasein
05-16-2007, 10:05 AM
So are Muslims the new Jews? At least he's not a papist. Can't trust them papists...

Firetxmi
05-16-2007, 10:52 AM
Despite the fact that the article is factually incorrect, it is rediculous!

I agree, you'll probably be gone soon.

usbabmc
05-16-2007, 11:13 AM
Yeah? Long for what?

You must understand that this site has become a politically correct hotbed full of people brainwashed by leftist propaganda. Don't worry about Obama because his recent gaffs have demonstrated that he is a rookie politician that should stick to state govt.

a_very_ex_STAB
05-16-2007, 11:14 AM
Obviously since he is called Hussein he must be related to Saddam!

:roll:

Looks like the conservatards are really clutching at straws

2Sheds_Jackson
05-16-2007, 11:16 AM
Yeah? Long for what?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

It's a load of poo. The real story with this story is that the Clinton campaign apparently had a hand in generating it.

Firetxmi
05-16-2007, 11:18 AM
You must understand that this site has become a politically correct hotbed full of people brainwashed by leftist propaganda.

Oh good lord, best post of the day! Wait... Were you being serious?

Freedom-Fries
05-16-2007, 11:19 AM
you forgot that he is member founder of the black nationalsocialist party also p-)
He can not be trusted
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/system/files?file=images/obama-binladen.jpg

mohica
05-16-2007, 11:36 AM
Obviously since he is called Hussein he must be related to Saddam!

:roll:

Looks like the conservatards are really clutching at straws

Good point, possibly a cousin? They are all related you know.

The only thing the "conservatards" are gonna be clutching is the nice set of cans on the nimrod Dem's wives !!!

California Joe
05-16-2007, 11:47 AM
Look, if 2Sheds wasn't such a magnificently hilarious bastard I would have banned him for his crimes against schoolyard property already. If you're going to take a political stance at least make it interesting, funny, insightful or at the very least with slightly less douchebaggery.

usbabmc
05-16-2007, 12:08 PM
Oh good lord, best post of the day! Wait... Were you being serious?

My post may have been somewhat of an overstatement, however there does seem to be much more PC talk on here than in the past. I will stand by my comment that Obama is a complete and total political rookie who does not belong in the Whitehouse.

Mr Gently Benevolent
05-16-2007, 12:26 PM
On more serious note it seems that some US hedge funds are piling a lot of money into his campaign.

CMNot
05-16-2007, 01:41 PM
I will stand by my comment that Obama is a complete and total political rookie who does not belong in the Whitehouse.

Not been a hindrance to some.

gaijinsamurai
05-16-2007, 09:11 PM
Mohica, you are an idiot. I hope you don't plan to vote.
Furthermore, I hope you don't return to this forum.

Hollis
05-16-2007, 09:19 PM
Mohica, you are an idiot. I hope you don't plan to vote.
Furthermore, I hope you don't return to this forum.


2x here...........Jeepers, Obama as a security risk is as much to worry about as me. Hell I have great long term planning too, but I can not seem to remember what it was.

Obama, will probably be someone to watch (In a positive way), give him some more time/experience, He could become POTUS. If he had a more pro firearms stance I would vote for him over several republicans.

Dakota435
05-16-2007, 10:28 PM
2x here...........Jeepers, Obama as a security risk is as much to worry about as me. Hell I have great long term planning too, but I can not seem to remember what it was.

Obama, will probably be someone to watch (In a positive way), give him some more time/experience, He could become POTUS. If he had a more pro firearms stance I would vote for him over several republicans.

You should look into Obama's views more carefully Hollis my friend. He is a pretty conventional lib lefty and is way left of the Hildabeast. I'd take the Hildabeast over Obama.

JKD
05-16-2007, 10:44 PM
You should look into Obama's views more carefully Hollis my friend. He is a pretty conventional lib lefty and is way left of the Hildabeast. I'd take the Hildabeast over Obama.
Not really. He's certainly left of center and I'd never ever vote for based on his gun control stance but other than that he's just a standard issue democrat and not some raging fringe lefty lib type.
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Barack_Obama.htm

gaijinsamurai
05-16-2007, 11:08 PM
Could somebody please give me some links/hard facts regarding his gun control stance? I like him, but won't vote for someone who will try to confiscate my guns, or keep me from acquiring more.

JKD
05-16-2007, 11:13 PM
Could somebody please give me some links/hard facts regarding his gun control stance? I like him, but won't vote for someone who will try to confiscate my guns, or keep me from acquiring more.
Obama on gun control
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm

MPNFL
05-17-2007, 12:40 AM
a man's percieved ethnic/socio background should not be the deciding factor(s) that dictate his politics. that's just plain ignorance.

Rather, let's let his views and more importantly his action do that for us.

gaijinsamurai
05-17-2007, 02:13 AM
Thanks, JKD!!!!

svendejong
05-17-2007, 07:36 AM
I hope you don't plan to vote.

My hope exactly.

Bercianp
05-17-2007, 08:32 AM
Such a big amount of crap!

He was muslim, or even worse, he may be muslim still, so what?

I canīt understand how the religiuos background can be so important in a election, only if he were a extremist could religion be important and clearly he isnīt.

usbabmc
05-17-2007, 10:59 AM
I canīt understand how the religiuos background can be so important in a election, only if he were a extremist could religion be important and clearly he isnīt.

Agreed. However one must remember that the very party that Obama represents wanted to disqualify US Judge nominees based in part on the fact that they were Catholic. Just like all politicos the left is full of hypocrites.

Hollis
05-17-2007, 11:09 AM
You should look into Obama's views more carefully Hollis my friend. He is a pretty conventional lib lefty and is way left of the Hildabeast. I'd take the Hildabeast over Obama.


I'll do that, Thanks.

Currently I like Fred Thompson but as with the primaries, I will wait to really look into anyones quals until it get near the primary in Oregon.

Limeyfellow
05-17-2007, 12:39 PM
Agreed. However one must remember that the very party that Obama represents wanted to disqualify US Judge nominees based in part on the fact that they were Catholic. Just like all politicos the left is full of hypocrites.

Well if we are going to go back that far why not say "some Democrats wanted to keep slavery. What a bunch of hypocrites."

usbabmc
05-17-2007, 03:47 PM
Well if we are going to go back that far why not say "some Democrats wanted to keep slavery. What a bunch of hypocrites."

Sorry mate but the Dems were doing the anti-catholic shuffle in 2003-2004.

Grenkomp GRK
05-17-2007, 07:48 PM
Yeah? Long for what?


By now, you probably know :bash:

budgie
05-18-2007, 11:54 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

It's a load of poo. The real story with this story is that the Clinton campaign apparently had a hand in generating it.


Don't buy that one either. Your 'real story' was a Right-wing attempt to kill two birds with one stone: the nutjobs get to believe that Obama is a Muslim and that Hillary backstabbed him to get the 'truth' out. Hurts both campaigns - except the only people believing it wouldn't have voted for either in teh first place. In any case both tall tales were discredited within a week and that was some months ago now. Dunno why the diehards are still trying to dredge it up.

And the bottom line of the post says it all: "Copy and email this to everyone you know"

A sure sign it's from a reliable source.

Durandal
05-19-2007, 10:42 AM
My post may have been somewhat of an overstatement, however there does seem to be much more PC talk on here than in the past. I will stand by my comment that Obama is a complete and total political rookie who does not belong in the Whitehouse.

I am not an Obama fan actual reasons, mainly his gun control, but as a COnservative Libertarian there are plenty of other issues.

I think MAYBE one of our problems with todays "leadership" is that the politicians have too much political experience.

Maybe if we got more doctors, farmers, housewives, CEOs, cops, soldiers, and other career types in there, besides the "experienced politician" our government would not SUCK so much and actually represent them people that elect them.

But hey, what do I know. Maybe our current run of corporate whores who take hand outs is you idea of "politically savvy".

Maybe I am just a product of a school system that not only taught civics but had you participate in them as well.

Damn civic responsibility.

USMC Poolee
05-19-2007, 11:47 AM
"Copy and email to everyone you know."

You cant influence people about who they're gonna vote for.
They have reasons of their own and its none of your business.

Doesnt mean Im voting.

Anthony91
05-19-2007, 12:17 PM
This is one stupid ass thread...

joe mama
05-19-2007, 12:24 PM
...I think MAYBE one of our problems with todays "leadership" is that the politicians have too much political experience.

Maybe if we got more doctors, farmers, housewives, CEOs, cops, soldiers, and other career types in there, besides the "experienced politician" our government would not SUCK so much and actually represent them people that elect them.
...

+1000.

I'm a huge believer in severe term limits. I think the more turnover we get, the better. I'm sick of people like Ted Kennedy, sitting in his senate seat like it's a frickin throne for what, 168 years now? We need real people who've accomplished real things in their lives, both big and small. A government of the people by the people should have politicians who have way more in common with the people they represent.
Does it mean good people will have to leave office? Absolutely, but the benefits of getting rid of the dead weight far outweigh the drawbacks of only having the good ones for a limited time. Plus, if the good ones are THAT good, they'll be able to win another office of similar power or move up.

Durandal
05-20-2007, 08:26 AM
Doesnt mean Im voting.

There you go!

Funny thing. We just had a primary. Only thing the ballot was a 1% income tax.

1% for schools...it got fairly ugly.

Hell, I moved here because there was no local income tax, I'm a libertarian, and I think ANY form of income tax simply causes massive amounts of corruption.

That said, I voted of course (not that I would not vote if matters were less Earth shaking). 75% of the other REGISTERED voters did not. Which means 80 to 90% of the adult population was told what to do (no tax in this case) by a VERY small minority.

You go ahead and do not participate. THAT IS one of the problems in America.

Firetxmi
05-20-2007, 09:27 AM
I am not an Obama fan actual reasons, mainly his gun control, but as a COnservative Libertarian there are plenty of other issues.

I think MAYBE one of our problems with todays "leadership" is that the politicians have too much political experience.

Maybe if we got more doctors, farmers, housewives, CEOs, cops, soldiers, and other career types in there, besides the "experienced politician" our government would not SUCK so much and actually represent them people that elect them.

But hey, what do I know. Maybe our current run of corporate whores who take hand outs is you idea of "politically savvy".

Maybe I am just a product of a school system that not only taught civics but had you participate in them as well.

Damn civic responsibility.

Thank you! That is what I have been thinking and saying to everyone who says he is not "experienced." I don't want a politician who is experienced and is in bed with everyone and their cousin!

budgie
05-28-2007, 06:25 AM
Besides the only people who complain about Obama's 'inexperience' are those who wouldn't vote for a Democrat anyway. Their fear is irrelevant as it's not changing their vote.

usbabmc
05-29-2007, 12:06 PM
I am not an Obama fan actual reasons, mainly his gun control, but as a COnservative Libertarian there are plenty of other issues.

I think MAYBE one of our problems with todays "leadership" is that the politicians have too much political experience.

Maybe if we got more doctors, farmers, housewives, CEOs, cops, soldiers, and other career types in there, besides the "experienced politician" our government would not SUCK so much and actually represent them people that elect them.

But hey, what do I know. Maybe our current run of corporate whores who take hand outs is you idea of "politically savvy".

Maybe I am just a product of a school system that not only taught civics but had you participate in them as well.

Damn civic responsibility.

Your points are well made and agreeable. I'd love to see term limits so we could purge the system of the "old guard". As Budgie stated in his post about not voting for a Dem. Well he hit the nail on the head. I won't vote Dem because of a number of reasons: gun control, national healthcare and wealth redistribution just to name a few. I like my freedom and MY money and don't plan on giving any of that away regardless of whatever justification used by the left.

Dominique
05-29-2007, 12:58 PM
Besides the only people who complain about Obama's 'inexperience' are those who wouldn't vote for a Democrat anyway. Their fear is irrelevant as it's not changing their vote.

the people I usually see crying about someone's inexeperience are usually the one's who may get voted out.

deagle
05-29-2007, 06:47 PM
well, you could look at it this way also : if indeed he is a former muslim or whatever, won't those islamic extremists see it as a good thing and not as a threat and ease off of hostilities or something ? or at least see USA as islam-friendly ?

deagle
05-29-2007, 06:48 PM
btw, i'm repub, so i don't really care too much on democratic side as much

Durandal
05-29-2007, 07:21 PM
Term limits will do nothing.

Term limits will actually mean there is simply less OLD faces that are whores and more new whores in a constantly rotating system.

Nationalize the election system give all the candidates the same amount of funny money and do it...sort of like the French way.

The system is broken either way, but term limits are not going to fix it.

I mean, look how much a single two term administration can sink a nation long term. Term limits are there...