and Now For Some FLaK (AA-Guns)..

[FLaKKeY]

[http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/453_1083677937_aa_gun.jpg/img]
[img]http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/453_1083677468_sdkfz-flak.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/453_1083677119_anti_aircraft_2.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/453_1083677183_flak_3.jpg
best pic :) the flak guns greet the night bombers

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/453_1083677305_flak.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/453_1083677368_arty-10k18.jpg

[Srachka to Perdachka]

woot good pics Flakkey, me and you have similar tastes i love rail guns and AA too.

Russian ZSU-23 Shilka
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/zsu-23-4-DDST8407792_JPG.jpg
http://www.exchange3d.com/test_albums/3d-model-weapons-russian-soviet-military-designator-zsu-23-4-shilka/aal.jpg
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicule_artillerie/ZSU-23-4/ZSU23-4_RUSSE_2.JPG
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicule_artillerie/ZSU-23-4/ZSU-23-4_Russe_06.jpg
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicule_artillerie/ZSU-23-4/ZSU-23-4_Russe_08.jpg

[Srachka to Perdachka]

Russian ZSU-57

http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicule_artillerie/ZSU-57-2/ZSU-57-2_1.jpg
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicule_artillerie/ZSU-57-2/ZSU-57-2_3.jpg
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicule_artillerie/ZSU-57-2/ZSU-57-2_5.jpg
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicule_artillerie/ZSU-57-2/ZSU-57-2_7.jpg

[dez000]

Gepard
http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/gep/gep-08.jpg
http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/gep/gep-12.jpg
http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/gep/gep-13.jpg
http://www.panzerbaer.de/archiv/pix/bw_ebtrsp_flakpz_gepard-001i.jpg

[Srachka to Perdachka]

oooooooooooooooh pretty woot

[He219]

The Wirbelwind:

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/wirbel.jpg

http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/flak04.jpg

http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/flak05.jpghttp://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/flak06.jpg

Videos:

http://www.deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256ced00519415c1256982003b7e87/9fde950956473c7bc1256bb90023a118/body/0.7C?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg
Flugabwehrkanonenpanzer Gepard (wmv) [2.28 MB] (http://www.deutschesheer.de/C1256B6C002D670C/CurrentBaseLink/N25FSGV6215SWINDE)

http://www.military.cz/russia/sam/2k22_tunguzka/2S6M_GUN_FIRE01.JPG
2K22 Tunguska M-1 (wmv) [2.9M] (http://www.aviation.ru/www.rusarm.ru/video/2K22_Tunguska_M-1.wmv)

p-)

[perdurabo]

woot good pics Flakkey, me and you have similar tastes i love rail guns and AA too.

Russian ZSU-23 Shilka

its ZSU-23-4
ZSU -selfpropeled AA gun 23 is caliber and 4 is for number of guns(barrels)
like ZU-23-2 AAgun 23caliber 2barrels...

[FDF_Hemppis]

AAA? You got it! Here comes:

23 ItK 95 (modernized ZU-23-2):
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/23ItK61mod.jpg
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/23ItK61mod2.jpg
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/23ItK61mod3.jpg

35 ItK 88:
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/35ItK88.jpg
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/35ItK88_2.jpg
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/35ItK88_3.jpg
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/35ItK88_4.jpg
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/35ItK88_5.jpg
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/35ItK88_6.jpg

[Uninen]

FDF_Hemppis,

Good pics of 35mm gun.. :P Thanks! :)

[Pandy]

I know this is not flak but, hey, still **** you up when you fly.

"If it flies, it dies."
2/174th ADA (Ohio National Guard) saying.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/avenger/images/averge_stinger.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/avenger/images/avenger1.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/avenger/images/avenger2.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/avenger/images/avenger3.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/avenger/images/avenger4.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/avenger/images/avenger7.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/avenger/images/avenger5.jpg

I like flak and everything but i really like a bullet that has a 3kg of explosive fragmentation warhead, which is following you around at the speed of mach 2.2.

woot

[perdurabo]

AAA? You got it! Here comes:

23 ItK 61 Mod (modernized ZSU-23):
[img]http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/23ItK61mod.
its not ZSU but ZU-23-2
ZSU is for Selfpropeled AA!!

[FDF_Hemppis]

AAA? You got it! Here comes:

23 ItK 61 Mod (modernized ZSU-23):
[img]http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/23ItK61mod.
its not ZSU but ZU-23-2
ZSU is for Selfpropeled AA!!

Sorry, my bad... I'm not god, so I don't know everything.

Edit: fixed it. Happy now? :)

[perdurabo]

AAA? You got it! Here comes:

23 ItK 61 Mod (modernized ZSU-23):
[img]http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/23ItK61mod.
its not ZSU but ZU-23-2
ZSU is for Selfpropeled AA!!

Sorry, my bad... I'm not god, so I don't know everything.

Edit: fixed it. Happy now? :)
ok mate :-) sorry:-) but when you say ZSU-23 it looks like you want to say about shilka witch is ZSU-23-4.

[FDF_Hemppis]

AAA? You got it! Here comes:

23 ItK 61 Mod (modernized ZSU-23):
[img]http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/23ItK61mod.
its not ZSU but ZU-23-2
ZSU is for Selfpropeled AA!!

Sorry, my bad... I'm not god, so I don't know everything.

Edit: fixed it. Happy now? :)
ok mate :-) sorry:-) but when you say ZSU-23 it looks like you want to say about shilka witch is ZSU-23-4.

No probs! :D

And I'm pretty sure we have ZSU-57-2's in our armor brigade, but I'm lacking pics :(

Anyone care to help me? Mustamato, Uninen, Dalleer...??

[Metak]

AA fire over Belgrade

http://www.balkanpeace.org/library/gallery/beograd/431_beograd.jpg
http://www.balkanpeace.org/library/gallery/beograd/462_beograd.jpg
http://www.balkanpeace.org/library/gallery/beograd/489_beograd.jpg
http://www.balkanpeace.org/library/gallery/beograd/88_pvo.jpg
http://www.nevskiy.orthodoxy.ru/Lifesobor/imgserbia/pvo.JPG
http://www.rcp-brcko.com/PVO-iznad-centra-Beograda.jpg

[FinnishMF]

Anyone care to help me? Mustamato, Uninen, Dalleer...??
http://www.ilmatorjuntaupseeriyhdistys.fi/1_2002/kuvat/wpe7.jpg
Awesome picture rofl

[Uninen]

Thats ZSU-57-2 / SU 57-2... ;)

http://personal.inet.fi/koti/uninen/uploads/Sekalaisii/itpsv%20zsu-57-2.jpg

ItPsv ZSU-57 is the official Finnish name for it.

[KalleBalleSvartSk@lle]

The Wirbelwind:

http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/flak04.jpg

p-)
The one in the middle is a möbelwagen of some type (furniture van in english.

[Uninen]

The Wirbelwind:

http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/flak04.jpg

p-)
The one in the middle is a möbelwagen of some type (furniture van in english.
From the left: Ostwind, Möbelwagon and Wirbelwind. ;)

[He219]

The Wirbelwind:

http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/flak04.jpg

p-)
The one in the middle is a möbelwagen of some type (furniture van in english.

The three main Flakpanzers: an Ostwind with 3.7cm Flak 43, a Möbelwagen with 3.7cm Flak 43 (with closed sides), and a Wirbelwind with 2cm Flakvierling 38

p-)


Edit: Rats! Uninen beat me to it ...

[GazB]

Unfortunately the ZSU-57-2 hasn't been very successful against aircraft when used in combat.

The S-60 guns in the towed version are very powerful and quite effective against slow targets but they have radar guidance.

The ZSU-57-2 fires with 4 round clips and its rate of turn is poor for modern fast aircraft. The lack of radar direction means it is not much good against aerial targets.

Having said that it is VERY effective against ground targets and has been used successfully in that role.

The Zu-23 upgrade looks very interesting but I prefer the Russian upgrade and I believe there is a similar Czech upgrade where twin MANPADs are added as well as powered controls and optic and thermal target detection sensors.

The SOSNA system also looks interesting with four hypersonic SOSNA SAMs and a single twin barrel 2A38M cannon (rate of fire 2,000-2,500rpm) with a Thermal imaging targetting system for totally passive engagements. (The 2A38M gun is also used on the Tunguska, and is a twin barrel 30mm cannon, though it uses two twin barrel guns, whereas the SOSNA system has one.)

[perdurabo]

Unfortunately the ZSU-57-2 hasn't been very successful against aircraft when used in combat.

The S-60 guns in the towed version are very powerful and quite effective against slow targets but they have radar guidance.

The ZSU-57-2 fires with 4 round clips and its rate of turn is poor for modern fast aircraft. The lack of radar direction means it is not much good against aerial targets.

Having said that it is VERY effective against ground targets and has been used successfully in that role.

The Zu-23 upgrade looks very interesting but I prefer the Russian upgrade and I believe there is a similar Czech upgrade where twin MANPADs are added as well as powered controls and optic and thermal target detection sensors.

The SOSNA system also looks interesting with four hypersonic SOSNA SAMs and a single twin barrel 2A38M cannon (rate of fire 2,000-2,500rpm) with a Thermal imaging targetting system for totally passive engagements. (The 2A38M gun is also used on the Tunguska, and is a twin barrel 30mm cannon, though it uses two twin barrel guns, whereas the SOSNA system has one.)
few weeks ago me with brzęczyszczykiewicz we made thread about Polish airdefence, look for it and you will find modifications of S-60 with optical targeting and full automatics, modification of ZSU-23-4 with passive targeting pod and 4manpads Grom, modification of ZU-23-2(caled ZUR-23-2KG/TG) with 2Grom, also our own Polish constructions. there was a thread about polish radars also. Look for more here:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11940

[FLaKKeY]

nice pics guys keep it up..

[FDF_Hemppis]

The Zu-23 upgrade looks very interesting but I prefer the Russian upgrade and I believe there is a similar Czech upgrade where twin MANPADs are added as well as powered controls and optic and thermal target detection sensors.


Just a note:

This Finnish one also has powered controls, night/thermal* vision, and computer controlled tracking. There is a reason for not having missiles in it, and that's flexibilty. Having missiles and guns in separate "groups", but under the same fire/target control is considered to be more efficient (by the FDF, that is).

If my memory serves me correctly, India bought this same upgrade.
*I'm not 100% sure about that, I'll have check that out.

[-Max2-]

M163 Vulcan

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m163_DASC9000067_JPG.jpg
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/vulcan04.jpg
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Amerique_du_nord/Etats_Unis/vehicule_artillerie/M163_AA/M163_Vulcan_USA_22.jpg
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Amerique_du_nord/Etats_Unis/vehicule_artillerie/M163_AA/M163_2.jpg

LAV-AD

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/blazer/images/blazer1.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/blazer/images/blazer5.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/blazer/images/blazer3.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/blazer/images/blazer8.jpg

[FDF_Hemppis]

And some more:

23 ItK 61:
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/sergei_600.jpg

23 ItK 95 (not 23 ItK 61 mod, as I earlier mentioned)
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/sergei_95_600.jpg

ItPsv 90 (A polish T-55 chassis with English Marksman turret equipped with Swiss 35mm Oerlikons)
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/marksman_600.jpg
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/marksman.jpg

And the already mentioned 35 ItK 88:
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/FDF/35_600.jpg

Uninen: It's "ItPsv SU 57-2" source: Ilmatorjuntaupseeri-lehti (http://www.ilmatorjuntaupseeriyhdistys.fi/3_2000/teksti/psitptri.htm)