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06-24-2003, 09:57 AM

Dutch Commando's In Action
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Training
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Dutch SF Marines
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Some Pix For Now...[/img][/list]

Smintjes

06-24-2003, 10:05 AM

Nice pics!

He219

06-24-2003, 10:29 AM

Great Pictures, TP!
:P

Gringo

06-24-2003, 11:19 AM

PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP90 MANIA

Nice pics mate.

RealUltimatePower

06-24-2003, 12:54 PM

Yea nice Diemaco stuff in there too and Elcan.

LJK

06-24-2003, 01:00 PM

Really nice pics man :D
Are those using on the first pics p90 submachineguns ?

Smintjes

06-24-2003, 01:06 PM

Really nice pics man :D
Are those using on the first pics p90 submachineguns ?

Yes they are.

Trigger

06-24-2003, 02:04 PM

Damn good pics!! woot

...and now for my simonsteele impression:
"Golly, how many special forces do the Dutch people need?...There were like, 11 guys with guns in those first few pics...Are there that many bad guys in Dutchland??" p-)

06-24-2003, 02:39 PM

+/- 300 Commando's dived in 3 company's

And the specialforces of the Dutch Marines : 2 / 4 platoons (not many)

Specialoperations.com will give enough intell for you guy's!

www.specialoperations.com/.../Netherlands/KCT_Overview.htm

http://www.korpscommandotroepen.nl/english/kct/index.html

06-24-2003, 03:02 PM

Maritime Counter Terrorism (MCT)
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Mortimer

06-24-2003, 11:58 PM

i like their cams got anymore?

Gringo

06-25-2003, 01:33 AM

Isn't that camo DPM? or similar to it?

Why r they using a Diemaco C7 in a ship boarding op? But I guess that it's their personal choice, I would've prefered an MP5.

DeltaWhisky58

06-25-2003, 03:09 AM

Isn't that camo DPM? or similar to it?

Why r they using a Diemaco C7 in a ship boarding op? But I guess that it's their personal choice, I would've prefered an MP5.

Dutch forces wear cammo which is almost identical to British DPM, perhaps slightly brighter in colour when new.

Many forces are shifting towards 5.56mm for CQB using frangible ammo - 9mm often shows excesive penetration in a confined environment hence the use of controlled penetration 5.56mm instead. A similar example was the FRG Royal Marines Post last week - boarding ships with SA80s.

Smintjes

06-25-2003, 04:30 AM

And for desert ops, the Dutch have US 3-Colour desert cammies.

Guttorm

06-25-2003, 07:41 AM

Love the grappeling hook gun thingy! :D

06-26-2003, 12:08 PM

Gringo

06-26-2003, 01:39 PM

The MCT sometimes use Diemaco's C7(a1)'s for trainings.
I don't no why, but it is the Marines primairy weapon.

Camo answer:
The Dutch Army and Airforce use britisch DPM (sort of, but some times the use britisch stuff like a jacket)

The Dutch Marines use the American camo and Britisch camo (a big mix)

Desert:
http://www.luchtmobiel.nl/modules/Magnish/Gallery_folder/fotoboek8/Naamloos-1.jpg

(* This was a air-mobile exercies in zaragoza; Spain)

A big mix indeed. But I can't really complaing about the different camos for different units. There wouldn't be any argument about which unit they r. Also do the Army and AirForce use US 3 colour desert or Brit' Desert DPM?

GI_Rutger

06-29-2003, 05:05 AM

The Dutch Marines use the American camo and Britisch camo (a big mix)
Desert:
http://www.luchtmobiel.nl/modules/Magnish/Gallery_folder/fotoboek8/Naamloos-1.jpg
(* This was a air-mobile exercies in zaragoza; Spain)

I saw the properties of this phots, u got it forum the site of the Luchtmobiele Brigade (The intervention force of the dutch army).
These are'nt marines.

06-29-2003, 01:00 PM

I know!

But here are some pix of dutch 'air manoeuvre brigade' soldiers:

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http://www.luchtmobiel.nl/modules/Magnish/Gallery_folder/PeterWillemsen/DSC_0186.jpg

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http://www.luchtmobiel.nl/modules/Magnish/Gallery_folder/fotoboek9/Dscn0009.jpg

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http://home.hetnet.nl/mr_13/23/jaapaardema/acoy/foto%27s/basicpatrol/Groot/minimischutter.jpg

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Gringo

06-29-2003, 03:00 PM

I really like that pic above with the Minimi firing. :D

Argyll

06-29-2003, 06:42 PM

great piccies!!

Smintjes

06-30-2003, 04:12 AM

Anybody got more info on this guy's camo? Haven't seen it before.

http://www.13luchtmobiel.nl/contents/fotos/jwc/jwc15.jpg

Mortimer

06-30-2003, 05:06 AM

i sure hope that guy firing the minimi is wearing hearing protection...

Gringo

06-30-2003, 11:34 AM

Proberly ended up like Nelson from Blackhawk Down.

"WHAT!!!!"

Trigger

06-30-2003, 05:17 PM

THANK YOU
Excellent Pics. woot

Henk

07-02-2003, 03:17 AM

The dutch use 4 kinds of camo for the army white for artic, dpm for woodlands very much simular too what the british wear but some brighter in its colors, desert camo american pattern,and jungle camo see link.
http://www.vredesnaam.com/kledingjun.html
This jungle camo is not issued to marines they use american bdu woodland for woodland and jungle invirements.
The dutch also tested flecktarn whitch is in use with the germans back in the 80's but didn't like it because afther washing it its nightvisebility increased. I don't know if the dutch or the germans developed flecktarn, but heard a rumor that the dutch developed it.

Smintjes

07-02-2003, 03:51 AM

Thanks, I had never heard of Dutch jungle clothing before. Nice cammies though.

And Flecktarn was most certainly developed by Germany. Belgian Air Commandos used a lighter variant of Flecktarn too, but that is currently being phased out in favor of the Jigsaw-pattern.

Henk

07-02-2003, 04:17 AM

http://www.mindef.nl/home/pictures/9138.pdf
Scroll down for more jungle camo pics.

Smintjes

07-02-2003, 04:22 AM

Thanks, nice pics and a good read. Do you know where I could buy me a (preferably new) Dutch jungle outfit?

Henk

07-02-2003, 04:35 AM

http://www.13luchtmobiel.nl/contents/index.html
link above click oefeningen and the scroll down to jungle warfare course.
I found only one place where you can buy it, http://www.worldcamo.com/.

Henk

07-02-2003, 07:10 AM

http://www.americanphotojournalist.com/member.php?user=mildata

http://www.mindef.nl/home/pictures/8078.pdf
http://www.mindef.nl/home/pictures/6444.pdf
last two links you have to scroll down for more pics.

ESCOBAR

07-04-2003, 07:31 PM

Why CANT COuntry's get there own camoflouge

Henk

07-07-2003, 03:20 AM

http://www.euronet.nl/users/criel/download/krachtvandekikker.pdf

MEGR

07-07-2003, 12:04 PM

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Henk

08-01-2003, 05:21 AM

http://www.hillknives.com/mil3.htm

JTF-2 Wannabe

08-01-2003, 12:08 PM

hey there using C7's...

Schuster

08-02-2003, 12:37 AM

Diemaco handles (maybe its handled now) all of colts exports to western europe.. so they get the C7a1 and C8... i think thats how it goes.

GI_Rutger

08-02-2003, 04:02 AM

At the Dutch Army forums they're rumours about some new camo prints. Maybe our (Dutch) army wants to use the German camo print.

Guttorm

10-01-2003, 06:28 AM

Also.... :)
Notice that all the guys with minimi seems to be a lot more happyer then the rest of the guys... :D

Beer Monster

12-08-2005, 11:32 AM

Saw this so thought I'd stick it in. I can't seem to find much more about the Exercise.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/beer_monster/dutch.jpg

"Exercise Falcon Force was a joint Exercise from 1 Regiment Army Air Corps held in the Sauerland-Harz Areas of Germany. Taking part in the exercise were Dutch Special Forces, 2nd Squadron, 6th US Cavalry, with Apache helicopters, and 9 Battery, 12 Regiment Royal Artillery with HVM Stormers. The aim of the exercise was to show inter-operability both in the air and on the ground. The photo shows Dutch Special Forces rescueing brit air-crews with Lynx Helicopters on ex. "

Irish

12-08-2005, 04:26 PM

Calimero

12-08-2005, 04:50 PM

ARE the BBE the primary SF??:oops:

That are not BBE. They are Army Commando's (KCT).
BBE doens't use (green) Diemaco C8A1's and don't weare the normal army camoflage.

BBE is a special navy unit from the marine corps. They only do SWAT operations for the police. And only in the Netherlands.
BBE is formed by 'normal' marines (but special trained), so if they are not at work as BBE, they will operate with there original unit as marine all around the world.

So army commado's are the primary SF. They are the only army unit thats is trained for all kinds of warfare, like urbanwarfare, jungle, mountain, swamp, and CT. They are also the only army unit that has real snipers.
The navy has also some special units from the marine corps, like the BBE (Bijzondere Bijstands Eenheid) SBS (Special Boat Service) and mountainleaders.
The MP has also a SF unit, called BSB (brigade speciale beveiligingsopdrachten)
Some people say that the normal marine corps and 'luchtmobile birgade' are SF also, but that isn't true. They are just hard trained infantrie.

Honcho

12-08-2005, 05:21 PM

http://www.inhail.com/pics/co-schnee.jpg
i have seen this pic before, and recon the left commando to be my former high school geography teacher. heard from people he had been in the special forces, then found this photo.

since i graduated high school last year, and found it kind of strange to ask him if this was him, a friend of mine might ask him.

chopsticks

12-08-2005, 05:22 PM

Calimero

12-08-2005, 06:29 PM

The BBE doing SWAT work? Are you sure? Isn't that the job of the arrestatie-teams? BBE is more CT than SWAT in my opinion...

BTW, they say that entering the marine corps is harder than entering the luchtmobiel (that's what they told me in the navy anyway). Apparantly the medical for the marines is more strict than for the luchtmobiel, it might be true for their training too (I dunno, somebody might want to correct me on this).

Yes, BBE does CT too. But they take in when the AT's can't handle the situation anymore.

The marine corps is harder then luchtmobiel. Many kids that drop out at the marine training try to get in luchtmobiel. The marines are similar to the army commando's, but they are normal infanterie. They work in large groups, sometimes 30 men ore more. Army commado's work in little groups, of max 8 man. They do the more sercret missions, like sabotage, long distance recon, ambushes, and rescue missions.

Irish

12-08-2005, 06:43 PM

That are not BBE. They are Army Commando's (KCT).
BBE doens't use (green) Diemaco C8A1's and don't weare the normal army camoflage.

BBE is a special navy unit from the marine corps. They only do SWAT operations for the police. And only in the Netherlands.
BBE is formed by 'normal' marines (but special trained), so if they are not at work as BBE, they will operate with there original unit as marine all around the world.

So army commado's are the primary SF. They are the only army unit thats is trained for all kinds of warfare, like urbanwarfare, jungle, mountain, swamp, and CT. They are also the only army unit that has real snipers.
The navy has also some special units from the marine corps, like the BBE (Bijzondere Bijstands Eenheid) SBS (Special Boat Service) and mountainleaders.
The MP has also a SF unit, called BSB (brigade speciale beveiligingsopdrachten)
Some people say that the normal marine corps and 'luchtmobile birgade' are SF also, but that isn't true. They are just hard trained infantrie.

CHEERS,THANKS FOR THAT!!:) :)

Honcho

12-08-2005, 06:47 PM

Yes, BBE does CT too. But they take in when the AT's can't handle the situation anymore.

The marine corps is harder then luchtmobiel. Many kids that drop out at the marine training try to get in luchtmobiel. The marines are similar to the army commando's, but they are normal infanterie. They work in large groups, sometimes 30 men ore more. Army commado's work in little groups, of max 8 man. They do the more sercret missions, like sabotage, long distance recon, ambushes, and rescue missions.

as i dont quite agree with you that the marines are similar to the army commandos (kct), something i'd like to add is that the army commando training is more focussed on mental breakdown. ofcourse the training is extremely hard, and many fail because of injuries, but you also have to be mentally very strong to pass.

Irish

12-08-2005, 06:54 PM

as i dont quite agree with you that the marines are similar to the army commandos (kct), something i'd like to add is that the army commando training is more focussed on mental breakdown. ofcourse the training is extremely hard, and many fail because of injuries, but you also have to be mentally very strong to pass.

ARE THE BBE SOC??,ALSO WOULD THEY BE AS GOOD(AS WELL TRAINED)AS THEIR ARMY COUNTERPARTS??

Honcho

12-08-2005, 07:25 PM

BBE is i believe.

"normal" marines aren't