Special Forces ACU Patches

[Hawkeye4077]

I just bought a set of ACU's for my airsofting and wanted some SF patches to go on it. I'll be putting them on the left shoulder. Do I put anything on the right shoulder too? (other than the US flag patch)

[Baboonass]

Here's how you get an SF patch.

Join the Army, graduate the "Q" course, recieve your patch.

Taa daaa.

Anything other than that is being a wannbe poser.

Carry on.

[maple.leaf]

A. If you seriously want to do this as an accurate re-enactment homage to these guys, then surely your research will have revealed to you what is correct and what isn't.

B. If you simply want to do it so you look "cool" on the skirmish field, then you probably won't find anybody on here who'll encourage you.

I'm an airborne vet, and an airsofter so I approve of A, and heartily disapprove of B.

[Baboonass]

A. If you seriously want to do this as an accurate re-enactment homage to these guys, then surely your research will have revealed to you what is correct and what isn't.

B. If you simply want to do it so you look "cool" on the skirmish field, then you probably won't find anybody on here who'll encourage you.

I'm an airborne vet, and an airsofter so I approve of A, and heartily disapprove of B.



Are you SF?

Did you pass the SF "Q" course?

Wearing something you didn't earn is ass. You can wrap it up anyway you want, it's still posing.

If you want it so bad, earn it.

If you are going to argue about "airsoft", then keep it in your own lane.

[Sabre]

Yank SF is the way to go. They give you patches and everything. SF over here is wank, they only get a beret and hardly get to wear it. How crap is that?

[Baboonass]

Yank SF is the way to go. They give you patches and everything. SF over here is wank, they only get a beret and hardly get to wear it. How crap is that?

You want patches?

Join the Boy Scouts.

(wink).

[MetroN]

Who needs patches?

If you want to be L33T, dont wear patches, cuz the most L33t guys dont wear them ;)

[ABNINF]

Yank SF is the way to go. They give you patches and everything. SF over here is wank, they only get a beret and hardly get to wear it. How crap is that?

I've heard that they don't use slings either

[Guggenmauer]

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7008/banpd6.jpg

While the text in the pic doesnt fit the situation, the picture still does.

ADV-1 put to its best use.

[Big Bad Bob]

Patches?? We dont need no stinking PATCHES!!!

but seriously this thread is why i hate chairsoft, the special forces tab is something hard earned, and worn by some serious dedicated professionals, to imitate them by posing is a severe form of disrespect.
Im not SF, but i do serve in the US Army and you wouldnt catch me dead in an SF/Ranger tab/patch if i havent earned it. Same goes for rank, unit insignia, combat patches, airborne wings etc. what we do is not some game u just play on the weekend and go home at the end of your scenario, and what we wear on our uniforms is not something we just walk down to the PX and slap on cause it looks cool. Im ok that you guys wanna dress up and play soldier, but when you start buying and wearing SF tabs, rank, etc. thats wear i draw the line. I know some of yall will say its re-enactment or living history but with todays media is blasting you images real time to the living room, i dont think you need living history of it. I didnt see anyone "re-enacting" WW2 or Vietnam when it was going on. Plus i have a hard time taking money out of my paycheck to supplment my TA-50 some of you jokers have nicer stuff than me! If i didnt need i wouldnt be buying it to play GI Joe dress up.
They say that imitation is the highest form of flattery , but in this case its not its severly wrong.
I know you asked a simple question and didnt expect these responses
ok rant over, and if your a civillian POG and dont understand what i am saying and think i am overreacting go join up and come talk to me later

[Sheikh Al Stranghi]

First of all, SF personnel often doesnt wear it's patches in the field, to minimize the risk of being identified.

Second, if you wanted to reenact vietnam with a serious group, you'll get away with it , especially outside of the US.

But for modern day airsoft; nah... Just don't. You'll look like a retard.

Here's one! Get a ww2 kit together and put a FSSF patch on it, if you're that desperate.

I think it's OK to put a modern day US army airsoft loadout together, but when you're in the US, don't wear any insignia. I know I wouldnt. I do approve of serious airsofting like the german 3rd Infantry does, but that's about as far as you can go, I would think.


Not that I have anything to say, I'm just a foreigner with the deepest respect for 200 years of US military history and tradition.

[Seraphim]

You do know their is a airsoft section on this website right?

[RECON DOC]

You want patches?

Join the Boy Scouts.

(wink).

I got kicked out of the Boy Scouts. I was a little too rowdy for them.p-)

[Sheikh Al Stranghi]

I got kicked out of the Boy Scouts. I was a little too rowdy for them.p-)

Hahah, same here... I once had to set out a sort of "survival" route, which included a three mile swim/crawl through a muddy river bank... They didn't like it hahahaha

[WarriorMonk]

Just order one of those Ghost Recon patches off of ebay...there's a compromise for you.

[Hawkeye4077]

Just order one of those Ghost Recon patches off of ebay...there's a compromise for you.

Deal

secks

[pdf27]

How about this?
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/avatars/pdf27.gif?dateline=1165924460

[Sheikh Al Stranghi]

How about this?
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/avatars/pdf27.gif?dateline=1165924460

OMG Can I order that somewhere????? I wanna wear that!!!!!

[pdf27]

I think it's a photoshop - there's a bigger badge out there too with "Chairbourne Piefinder" on it, with a plate, knife and fork in the middle. IIRC both came out of the "airsofters walting it up" thread on Arrse.

Still, there have to be companies out there who do badges to order...

[Sheikh Al Stranghi]

Cool, if someone knows a source let me know. Chairborne ranger patches and the like are totally awesome. *giggles like a little girl*

[Macs.]

What's next ?

Do you want a M3-Badge for you 318d BMW ?

God I hate this softair. And special forces.

[Aerosoul]

What's next ?
Do you want a M3-Badge for you 318d BMW ?
Hahaha .....

[Sheikh Al Stranghi]

What's next ?

Do you want a M3-Badge for you 318d BMW ?

God I hate this softair. And special forces.

I hate 300 pound airborne walts. That's why I want one of those patches so desperately.

[ABNINF]

Cool, if someone knows a source let me know. Chairborne ranger patches and the like are totally awesome. *giggles like a little girl*

Alot of guys get them made downrange. The locals will make them for a reasonable amount of money

[Sheikh Al Stranghi]

Alot of guys get them made downrange. The locals will make them for a reasonable amount of money

I won't be going to Afghanistan anywhere in the forseeable future, if that's what you mean...?

[ABNINF]

Naw, I'm just saying that's where all the ones I've seen come from, so unless you know someone over there you'll probably be up sh*t creek

[helomech]

Here's how you get an SF patch.

Join the Army, graduate the "Q" course, recieve your patch.

Taa daaa.

Anything other than that is being a wannbe poser.

Carry on.

Quoted for the mofo truth!Don't wear gear you didn't earn and that goes for all the armed forces...

I do like the Chairborne Piefinder though!
*laughs like a little school girl as well*

[comms]

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[California Joe]

I just bought a set of ACU's for my airsofting and wanted some SF patches to go on it. I'll be putting them on the left shoulder. Do I put anything on the right shoulder too? (other than the US flag patch)

I usually wear my "vampire slayer" patch on the left shoulder with a "bloody stake" patch on the right but I'm f*cking hard mate.

Tighten up. Dumbass.

[D-gin]

SF you say........



http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1372/seallg7.th.gif (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seallg7.gif)

[scrybe]

What's next ?

Do you want a M3-Badge for you 318d BMW ?

God I hate this softair. And special forces.

I put an M5 badge on mine. Fcuck M3s.

[remo williams]

27605

Sounds like you need this..

[Sabre]

You want patches?

Join the Boy Scouts.

(wink).

I don't want patches, I just want friends.....:-(


I've heard that they don't use slings either

OPSEC!!!!!!!111one


Im ok that you guys wanna dress up and play soldier, but when you start buying and wearing SF tabs, rank, etc. thats wear i draw the line.

Yeah, that's my take in it too. I see plenty posers and 'fashionistas' wearing DPM smocks, trousers and NBC tops (?!?) in a bid to look cool and 'street'. I also see builders etc wearing them because they're hard wearing. That doesn't bother me. I'll be the first to admit that when I was a little'un, I had a set of BDUs that I played soldier in (with the cuffs rolled up a fair way!). I don't mind people wearing DPM if they play 'airsoft/milsim' games. I would have loved to have that stuff when I was little (if I could have afforded it). And if they want to look more 'soldier-like' then that's great. By that I mean that their bearing and attitude is soldierly and that they are sorted out, practically speaking for the field.

I've looked around on the airsoft section, and I see some people with only a set of BDUs and a belt who look like a) they could run b) they are paying attention to what needs sorting in the field. Equally, I have seen people with all the 'tacti-cool' (I picked that up over there....nice, eh?) kit who look like a shower of shyte and probably would get out of breath getting dressed up in it. Now, in my mind, as a soldier (on weekends) I would have more time for the guy who's there to practice drills and techniques and has no kit, than I would for the guy who's there to look 'cool' and pose for the camera.

As for patches, ranks etc. Just don't do it kids. Having Sgt stripes on a 6 year old who's dad is a Sgt is cute. Having 'SF', 'Ranger' and Lt bars on a 16 year old who could join up in a year is a bit waltish.

[Sabre]

What our HOT HOT lov'n isn't enough for you anymore?

thats it i want my king sized tub of swafega back

Fine. I always knew it would end like this. :-(



It's got some hairs in, is that ok? p-)

[Hydro]

Anyone want a 145 (HC) Bde Roebuck patch? No? Not sexy enough? It MIGHT have been worn by someone who may or may not have been in the SAS...


How about a Royal Logistic Corps TRF? You can pretend your 1000CC hatchback is a DROPS? All the pies you can eat? No?


Sod you then.

[Sabre]

Used HRT patches anyone?





......I was just......erm.....trying something......

[SamHamam]

Yank SF is the way to go. They give you patches and everything. SF over here is wank, they only get a beret and hardly get to wear it. How crap is that?

And a belt, don't forget the belt;)

[Sabre]

depends are they Hostage rescue or hormone replacement?

and it depends are they your hair my hairs or hydros hairs?

Oh yeah! It could be Hostage Rescue, couldn't it? That'd work....yeah, that's what I meant....hostage, thingy, team.

On an entirely unrelated note, have you heard from Minardiau? I've 'acquired' a black PVC miniskirt that I, erm....wont be needing now.....

As for the hairs, they can't be Hydro's. Not after the 'incident' three weeks ago....:|

[Sabre]

And a belt, don't forget the belt;)

It's only the Marines that get a sussie belt mate.




Oh, you meant a stable belt! :cantbeli:

[pdf27]

It's only the Marines that get a sussie belt mate.
What about 3 Para Mortars?

[Sabre]

What about 3 Para Mortars?

They get theirs through a unit purchase. Not in the system for them unfortunately.

[Mike762]

I wish this thread would just die already or the mods should move it the airsoft section. It has no place here.:cantbeli:

[Sabre]

Indeed, I think we've successfully derailed it. I'm hitting the sack now. Might have a shower first as I feel unclean....:|

[Hydro]

Indeed, I think we've successfully derailed it. I'm hitting the sack now. Might have a shower first as I feel unclean....:|




That'll be 3 Para Mortars.

[pdf27]

Talking about the Marines and 3 Para Mortars does that to a man!

[Sabre]

Right, I'm off to the Portugese/Claire Sweeny thread. Anything's better than 3 Para mortars in my head....

[Hawkeye4077]

So all of you who oppose to me buying SF patches are also opposed to video games portraying real-life events, squads, battles, etc. also?

[Macs.]

Dude, get your SF patch and hump through the wood with your plastic rifle from Japan, for all that I care.

Just post it in the softair-section if you don't want any trouble.

[Blackburn]

I remember me and the boys playing soldier in the hood with plastic guns our parents bought for carneval.
Damn, that was funny. Most of us wore some camo, wich we
could find in our dads stuff.

Funny time...

[Pete031]

So all of you who oppose to me buying SF patches are also opposed to video games portraying real-life events, squads, battles, etc. also?

Don't forget to make up your own zap number and have your NKA patch!!
High ****ing Speed!!

[Hawkeye4077]

I was being serious with my question. It's just amazing how hypocritical everyone who negatively responded to my post looks now. They can do it in videogames and have it be ok, but how dare people outside of videogames do it?

[Macs.]

I was being serious with my question. It's just amazing how hypocritical everyone who negatively responded to my post looks now. They can do it in videogames and have it be ok, but how dare people outside of videogames do it?

Get a freaking clue. :roll:

[jagermeister]

I was being serious with my question. It's just amazing how hypocritical everyone who negatively responded to my post looks now. They can do it in videogames and have it be ok, but how dare people outside of videogames do it?

Hell I dont give a **** what you wear in fact i think you should get all dressed up in your clown costume wearing all this stuff you didnt earn and take a stroll threw bragg or benning and then come tell us about all the new friends you made.

[Hydro]

I was being serious with my question. It's just amazing how hypocritical everyone who negatively responded to my post looks now. They can do it in videogames and have it be ok, but how dare people outside of videogames do it?




Yeah, how dare REAL people do it.

[Sabre]

I was being serious with my question. It's just amazing how hypocritical everyone who negatively responded to my post looks now. They can do it in videogames and have it be ok, but how dare people outside of videogames do it?

A videogame is just that, a game on video. You can hardly take a screenshot from a game, paste your face on it and pretend that you were SF, operating in downtown Mexico City in 2010. You can, however, put real insignia on real uniforms that other real human beings wear as part of their job, and worked damn hard to get to a position where they were entitled to wear it. Can you not see how some of those entirely real people might be a slight bit bemused, if not ever so slightly miffed that grown men are running around with the same insignia on? Can you not see that, even if they aren't annoyed, any red-blooded soldier is going to be pissing himself laughing at a grown adult male who is part of a 'team' called 'ShadowForceWarriors' who dresses up in HIS uniform and 'runs' around the woods using comedy tactics with £100's worth of kit that he'll never use for its intended purpose of warfighting? Maybe I'm being harsh here, but it's the truth. You kicked back, so here it is. Most squaddies think that airsofting is a fvcking joke and a walting exercise. Have a look on ARRSE if you want, and see for yourself.

Personally, I don't really care what people do in their own time. There are far more vile, offensive and destructive pastimes out there and I'm sure most of the airsoft community mean well. I would just hope that some of the older bunch wouldn't have to have the squaddies' viewpoint spelled out to them. I would have thought the 'walt' aspect would be fairly obvious.

Peace mate. p-)

[Hawkeye4077]

I see where everyone is coming from. I'm just not noticing a difference between acting it out on your tv, and acting it out with with real people. Did you not have to work for the insignia either way? What makes Brothers in Arms different because they re-created an entire squad's journey through Europe and you get to experience it through your tv? What makes MoH and CoD different because they let you "fight" on D-Day and in other important WWII battles? What makes that different from a bunch of guys who dress up like that and go out and re-create those events? Are they both not done for entertainment/recreational purposes? Do you guys see what I mean?

[Sebastian]

Like alot of them said. Noone is stopping you from buying and wearing that tab. But remember guys have gone through ****, bleed, and died for that tab. Literally bleed on that tab. So you could run around with a plastic weapon and wear something you DIDN'T earn.

Don't Panic! You'll never have to pick up a real weapon, ruck up, and actually earn the tab. No, you just need to take a 5 minute walk to your local army surplus, and pay 3.99.

Enjoy your airsofting.

[Hawkeye4077]

Like alot of them said. Noone is stopping you from buying and wearing that tab. But remember guys have gone through ****, bleed, and died for that tab. Litterally bleed on that tab. So you could run around with a plastic weapon and wear something you DIDN'T earn.


And thousands of vets from WWII fought and died so we could re-create the same battle they died in on our ****ing tv. They died to protect something we DIDN'T earn. What makes it any different?

Enjoy your gaming.

[Sebastian]

Like I said man, no guy with a bat is waiting at the army surplus. Go buy it, have fun playing.

No, I don't game. I pefer to do it for real..... on a 1 evening a week, 1 weekend a month timeframe. :)

[Hawkeye4077]

No, I don't game. I pefer to do it for real..... on a 1 evening a week, 1 weekend a month timeframe. :)

Well that's good for you. Do you at least see the point I'm trying to make?

Believe me I am in no way trying to disrespect our armed forces, our vets, our whatever. But my point is that if it's an accepted thing to pretend you're a soldier ridding the world of Nazism on your tv, why is it not accepted to do it in real life? Are you not doing the same thing in either instance?

[Sabre]

I see where everyone is coming from. I'm just not noticing a difference between acting it out on your tv, and acting it out with with real people. Did you not have to work for the insignia either way? What makes Brothers in Arms different because they re-created an entire squad's journey through Europe and you get to experience it through your tv? What makes MoH and CoD different because they let you "fight" on D-Day and in other important WWII battles? What makes that different from a bunch of guys who dress up like that and go out and re-create those events? Are they both not done for entertainment/recreational purposes? Do you guys see what I mean?

Well, some of us here are not gamers (I have an Xbox and 'play' to relax from time to time) but are actually soldiers. So we aren't really comparing gaming to airsofting at all. But as I said, a game is just a game. You play it in your living room and it's not at all real. Physically wearing the equipment and patches is on par with impersonating those who wear it for real. So there is a difference. I think part of it is the posing aspect too. When people stick pictures of themselves on the internet wearing SF or ranger tabs or SAS berets, it's almost as though they are trying to say something about themselves by it. It is what we in the UK would call 'walting'.

Like I said though, thats just what I think. I don't think it will stop people from wearing the berets and badges, and I don't really care. It's no skin off my nose. Personally, I have more time for the people who are in it for the tactics and getting physical and involved. Those who are there to look like the real deal don't really get the time of day from my point of view.

[Hawkeye4077]

You're not pretending in the sense that you're physically controlling what your character does in-game, how he looks, how to complete objectives, etc?

[K3rmit]

Just enjoy your airsoft, and enjoy the company of those who also skirmish with you.
Don't get bothered by anybody here - what you do is your choice, what you wear is your choice. Those that call you a walt, well thats their tough **** they don't like it, not yours.

All i say though is that if your off the airsoft field, don't wear the tabs / flashes / badges / rank ect ect, as some one might have alot to say about it off the field.

[Hawkeye4077]

Just enjoy your airsoft, and enjoy the company of those who also skirmish with you.
Don't get bothered by anybody here - what you do is your choice, what you wear is your choice. Those that call you a walt, well thats their tough **** they don't like it, not yours.

All i say though is that if your off the airsoft field, don't wear the tabs / flashes / badges / rank ect ect, as some one might have alot to say about it off the field.

I never would dare. I know when to be "in costume" and when not to be.

[jagermeister]

I never would dare. I know when to be "in costume" and when not to be.

could be the gayiest line ive yet to see.

[Blackburn]

I'll tell you a story, about a guy I know very well.
He went drunk into Burger King and saw this group of
teens wearing uniform and ranks.
So guess what he did? Remember he was drunk...

[jagermeister]

did he help them take off the patches?

[Hawkeye4077]

I would've too. Like I said, there's a time to and not to wear that suff.

[Blackburn]

Jagermeister:

you bet! He did, and when they started to make jokes on him,
he sat infront on them, eatin his whopper and looking into their eyes...
They stoped.

[Sabre]

You're not pretending in the sense that you're physically controlling what your character does in-game, how he looks, how to complete objectives, etc?

It's a game, I play it wearing jeans and a t shirt, pausing it to sip my tea. I don't think I am the character, I don't pretend that I am really in WW2, or that I am a 7ft tall genetically engineered futuristic marine. It's a game.

There is a difference between sitting in front of a TV and holding a controller, and sitting in a field, dressed in the uniform of someone you're not.

As I said though, I don't begrudge anyone who does that. It doesn't bother me. I just find it odd that some people can't see how serving soldiers may find it amusing/annoying/infuriating depending on their outlook. Personally, I would be embarrassed to wear something I hadn't earned. But that's just me.

Anyway, it's now tomorrow, so I bid you all farewell for now! ;)

[Nevins]

I dont understand the need for a SF tab/patch in airsoft.. it dosnt make you run faster, shoot staighter, or reload quicker and it dosnt add any coolness too your load out. spend your money on something usefull, like bbs.

[Blackburn]

Actually, arent there better looking patches than the SF's?
;-)

[Nevins]

Actually, arent there better looking patches than the SF's?
;-)

i'v always liked the 11th ACR's patch for some reason

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/1849/militarybest19512102959ir7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
;-)

[D-gin]

I dont understand the need for a SF tab/patch in airsoft.. it dosnt make you run faster, shoot staighter, or reload quicker and it dosnt add any coolness too your load out. spend your money on something usefull, like bbs.
Obviously you've never put a flame sticker on a 89 Honda Civic, You instantly pick up 10 horse power and can go 0 to 60 in 5.9 seconds.


p-)

[Robbee]

I see where everyone is coming from. I'm just not noticing a difference between acting it out on your tv, and acting it out with with real people. Did you not have to work for the insignia either way? What makes Brothers in Arms different because they re-created an entire squad's journey through Europe and you get to experience it through your tv? What makes MoH and CoD different because they let you "fight" on D-Day and in other important WWII battles? What makes that different from a bunch of guys who dress up like that and go out and re-create those events? Are they both not done for entertainment/recreational purposes? Do you guys see what I mean?

By law, when an actor portrays military personnel in a movie or TV show they are required to be what the military calls "out of uniform". For example, ribbons or medals out of order, or improper insignia on clothing or hats. This is so that technically they are not impersonating military personal.

[Robbee]

Never knew that I'll have to keep an eye open see if i can spot any mistakes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_O'Neill

Scroll down this page and you can see all of the ribbons the character wears and the "inconsistencies."

[digrar]

Hawkeye4077 this is what happens when an airsoft topic is posted in the serious kit section. Make sure it doesn't happen again.