George W. Bush: Important Facts on the CinC.

[obd]

George W. Bush, some simple facts all Americans must know:

1. Attacked and took over 2 countries

2.Spent US Surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury

3.Shattered the all time record for the biggest annual deficit in history

4. While GWB was in office, set economic record for the most personal bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period in US history.

5.one of the all time biggest drop in the history of the stock market

6.first president to execute a federal prisoner

7.In first year in office, he set the all time record for most days spent on vacation by any president in US history

8.after taking the entire month of August off for vacation, he presided the worst security failure in US history which came in early September just 11 days after he got back from his restfull vacation.....

9.set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history

10. In his first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost thier jobs

11.Cut unemployement benefits for more out of work Americans than any other president in US history

12.set all time record for most real estate forclosures in a 12 month period

13.Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any US president in history

14.Set record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of television

15.signed more laws and executive orders altering the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA than any other US president in history

16.presided over the biggest energy crisis in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed

17.CUT HEALTH CARE BENEFITS FOR WAR VETERANS

18.Set all time record for the most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest his actions. Over 15 million people, shattering to record for protests against any other person in recorded hsitroy, including Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin.

19.Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history

20.Made his presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history

21. members of his cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. The poorest member of his cabinet is Condoleeze Rice who is a multimillionaire and even has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

22.First predident in history to have all 50 states of the union simultaneously struggle to avoid bankruptsy.

23.presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in history of the world

24.first US president to order an occupation of a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the vast majority of the international community

25. Created the largest government department bureacracy in the history of the United States, called the "Bureau of Homeland Security" which has so far attempted to take away more civil liberties and rights to privacy of American citizens than any other government institution since the US Civil War.

26. Frist president in US history to compel the United Nations to remove US from the Human Rights Commission

27.First president in US history to compel the United Nations to remove United States from the Elections Monitoring Board

28.Removed more checks and balances and has the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history

29.Withdrew America from the World Court of Law

30.Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default refused to abide by the Geneva Conventions

31.First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections whosought ot provide a third party to enssure election results were valid.

32. All time US and world record holder for most corporate campaign donations

33.the biggest lifetime contributor to his campaign is one of his best friends who also presided over the largest corporate fraud and bankruptsy case in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron)

34.spent more money on polls (despite saying he was "not a president who makes decisions based on polls") and focus groups than any other in US history.

35. First president of United States to establish, in his own words, a "shadow government"

36. Changed world sympathy in the wake of 9/11 and in less than 1 year made the United States the most resented nation in the world which was perhaps the biggest diplomatic failure in US history.

37. First American president to have the majority of the people polled in Europe (71 %) view his presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability

38. First president to change Federal Policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts

39.Set all time record for the number of administrative appointees who violated US law by not selling thier huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

40. Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other single president in US history

41.entered office with the strongest economy in US history after Willian Jefferson (Bill) Clinton and in less than two years the strong economy he inherited was going down in nearly every single ecnomic category

42. Has at least one conviction for drunk driving in the state of Maine. His Texas driving record has been erased and not made public, persumably to hide convictions(why else)

43.AWOL from the National Guard during a time of war. Served a total of 3 days national guard duty during his time in the NG. Most persons who served in his unit do not remmember his attendance.

44. To this day refuses to take a drug test or answer any question regarding his history of drug abuse as a student

45.All records of his tenure as Texas Governor are now locked in the Bush library away from public scrutiny.

46.All records of SEC investigations launched into Bush's insider trading and his bankrupt companies are currently sealed and unnavailabe to the public

47. Any and all recording of the minutes of meeting he and VP Cheney attended regarding public energy policy are curently sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public record.

48. THIS IS THE RECORD OF GEORGE W. BUSH.........I suggest it be made available to voters before the 2004 elections...so they may make a wise decision. Is this the kind of man we want leading our proud, noble, and powerful nation during difficult times? That is for you to decide

[MetalBoy]

Thanks for the spam, it was mighty tasty. :D

[Aussie E]

Sweet! Now if you could find the time to back up all these claims, I would like to see some hard facts. Not just your "wish list".

[M1A2U2]

this was already posted and most of these were proven wrong...but thanks for wasting our time.

[Kilgor]

this was already posted and most of these were proven wrong...but thanks for wasting our time.

exactly

go back to sucking off mike moore

[AOCBravo2004]

How many nations did Clinton bomb??? oh and on #9, only reason that happened was cuz Clinton and Gore used the White House for fundraising :P .

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Nice time waster. By using your logic Dubya was also responsible for the asteroid near-miss last year. I had no idea he was so powerful.

[HELEX]

Ok, Babes... disprove one of the Points. :lol:

Im waiting..... rofl

[nerdman]

While the points may be true they defiantly don't tell the whole story.

For Instance...


6. First president to execute a federal prisoner.

That prisoner was Timothy Mcveigh, Oklahoma Federal Building Bomber.

Alternatively one could say...

Clinton was the first elected President ever to be impeached.

What's not said is he was impeached for lying about getting a blow job from an aid.

[Old300]

Let's take them in order:

1) This isn't necessarily bad. Indeed, surely, most of us think that regime change in Afghanistan was a good thing; and a lot of us think regime change in Iraq was good as well.

2) This is complicated and is the subject of much controversy among economists. There is some question as to whether there ever was a budget surplus when you remove "entitlements" from budgetary calculations - i.e. when you remove money that is collected for and allocated to specific social benefit programs - and consider "discretionary" spending - i.e. money that is accrued to the Treasury and may be spent as Congress and the President wish. In any event, even if there really were a budgetary surplus when Bush assumed office, the economic decline that precipitated deficits did not begin on his watch. It is the consensus among economists that either a) the recession began in the last months of the Clinton Administration or b) economic growth began to decline in Clinton's last months. There was also an event that some of you might have heard of that happened in September of 2001. None of this, however, is to suggest that President Bush is blameless: he pushed for and received massive increases in spending on health care and education.

3) Which brings us to the first item that can definitely be considered garbage: in absolute dollars, the 2003 budget deficit was the largest in history. Relative to GDP, however, it was middling at worst. And that's the measure that has meaning: a government with a GDP of $2 t running a $100 b deficit is much worse off than a government with a GDP of $10 t running a $200 b deficit.

There are many more items on this list that are ridiculous. Those above are all that I have time to address at the moment.

[HELEX]

While the points may be true they defiantly don't tell the whole story.

For Instance...


6. First president to execute a federal prisoner.

That prisoner was Timothy Mcveigh, Oklahoma Federal Building Bomber.

Alternatively one could say...

Clinton was the first elected President ever to be impeached.

What's not said is he was impeached for lying about getting a blow job from an aid.

But it is still a FACT, and Blowjob or not Clinton has nothing to do with it. Doesnt matter how you turn it.

[Old300]

President Bush was not the first President to execute a federal prisoner:

http://www.bop.gov/ipapg/ipaexechart.html

[nerdman]

While the points may be true they defiantly don't tell the whole story.

For Instance...


6. First president to execute a federal prisoner.

That prisoner was Timothy Mcveigh, Oklahoma Federal Building Bomber.

Alternatively one could say...

Clinton was the first elected President ever to be impeached.

What's not said is he was impeached for lying about getting a blow job from an aid.

But it is still a FACT, and Blowjob or not Clinton has nothing to do with it. Doesnt matter how you turn it.

I don't think you get my point. I'm not turning it anyway. I'm calling it is partison, one sided.

P.S. The Clinton remark was a rip on the impeachment.

[HELEX]

President Bush was not the first President to execute a federal prisoner:

http://www.bop.gov/ipapg/ipaexechart.html

But since 1963... and that time all executiones were changed to life in prison.

Look at the Time gap in your source..

[nerdman]

President Bush was not the first President to execute a federal prisoner:

http://www.bop.gov/ipapg/ipaexechart.html

You are right.

I think ODB my have conveniently left out....

First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

[nerdman]

President Bush was not the first President to execute a federal prisoner:

http://www.bop.gov/ipapg/ipaexechart.html

But since 1963... and that time all executiones were changed to life in prison.

Look at the Time gap in your source..

That still is ONE incorrect item HELEX. Just like you asked for.

[HELEX]

Not incorrect but a bit incomplete, and the context ist still true.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Ok, Babes... disprove one of the Points. :lol:

Im waiting..... rofl

These aren't points, they are deliberately vague opinion.

For example;


16.presided over the biggest energy crisis in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed

The premise of this is incorrect. The biggest energy crisis in the US was most likely during WWII when rationing was instituted. Failing that, the 70's gas crunch, during which I can remember sitting in gas lines with my parents was second. My life has not been affected at all by this mythical "biggest energy crisis" as stated here.

Secondly, "presided over" infers that he was in some way responsible for it. It was the Democratic governor of California who made those energy deals.

Third, exactly how does a President "intervene" over corruption. We have a criminal justice system that does that. And it did.

Absolute garbage.

Also;

40. Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other single president in US history

Again, during WWII far more drastic measures were taken. Remember the Japanese internment camps. That I’m aware of, we haven't imprisoned an entire ethnic group lately.

Then, this jewel;

41.entered office with the strongest economy in US history after Willian Jefferson (Bill) Clinton and in less than two years the strong economy he inherited was going down in nearly every single ecnomic category

The economy was already in sharp decline - then it was hit by the double whammy of 9/11 and the massive corruption scandals (which, BTW actually occurred on Clinton’s watch, not that he was directly responsible of course, though by the logic of this hit piece, he would be)

Another beauty;

29.Withdrew America from the World Court of Law

There is no "world court of law" to withdraw from. This entire "point" is a misnomer. Bush withdrew the US from participation in a proposed "world criminal court" which could have targeted US servicemen serving abroad. The court did not exist to withdraw from.


13.Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any US president in history

I do not even know how to begin to address this, as there is no data to either support or deny such a ridiculous claim.


15.signed more laws and executive orders altering the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA than any other US president in history

Funny, I don't remember any constitutional amendments being passed.


18.Set all time record for the most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest his actions. Over 15 million people, shattering to record for protests against any other person in recorded hsitroy, including Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin.

This is just stupid, as if there's even data to compare.

I could go on, but I think it's pretty clear that this is simply a sensationalist 7th grade level hit piece & not worth our time.

[WARPIG]

Disproving these factoids is ridiculous. Bush's term is definately not squeeky clean but the list above is just trivial. Listing bits and pieces of facts does not constitute the truth. Morons are easy to fool with facts.
1. My product contains vitamin C: a water-soluble vitamin, is important in forming collagen, a protein that gives structure to bones, cartilage, muscle, and blood vessels. Vitamin C also helps maintain capillaries, bones, and teeth and aids in the absorption of iron.

2. My product contains brown suger, cognac, vanilla, cocoa, chicory, and anise for flavor.
3. My product contains beta-carotene: Beta-carotene is a substance from plants that the body converts into vitamin A. It also acts as an antioxidant and an immune system booster.
4. My product contains coffee and coffe extract.

All are facts .. but what is the truth? What is my product? Something from Starbucks? Some new hippy health latte? Is it some kind of Fru-Fru-chino with some sissy sprinkles?

Any guesses? I gave you the facts.. so the truth must be obvious.

[nerdman]

Not incorrect but a bit incomplete, and the context ist still true.

Incomplete? Context? Smells like BS to me. That List isn't copyrighted material. Who is turning / spinning now. You asked for one incorrect item and you got it.

Oh and if you think I'm a Bush supporter you are wrong.

[nerdman]

Not incorrect but a bit incomplete, and the context ist still true.

Incomplete? Context? Smells like BS to me. That List isn't a copyrighted material. Who is turning / spinning now. You asked for one incorrect item and you got it.

Oh and if you think I'm a Bush supporter you are wrong.

[Trigger]

Gentlemen, please don't waste another minute trying to debunk obd's gratuitous spamming. He's currently experiencing convulsions and throwing a tantrum due to his hero John Kerry consistently losing ground in his laughable run for the White House. In fact at this rate, Hilary Clinton has a better chance of being on the Democrat ballot than Kerry.

That's all his post is. He's squealing like a stuck pig and his idiot sidekick BOYLICKS is too stupid to tell the difference between spam and facts.

[scm77]

This topic is gay. The majority of these things that you claim Bush is directily responsible for, he has no control over.

"5.one of the all time biggest drop in the history of the stock market "

Wasn't that after 9/11? :cantbeli: :cantbeli: Sure is bush's fault everybody dumped their stock.

"First president to execute a federal prisoner."

Wasn't he sentenced to death under Clinton?? Not Bush's fault those things take so long.

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