View Full Version : In the service of terror: In the WB kids are trained to fight
Moledet
06-15-2007, 04:15 PM
They hold a personal rifle and train quite a bit instead of drawing or learning how to write. In the West Bank it was decided to recruit young kids that their heroes are wanted terrorists and suicide bombers, child:"When I grow up I want to be a wanted (terrorist)".
http://www.keshet-tv.com/VideoPage.aspx?MediaID=18233
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Well, for any of you that thought that it's poverty that is driving them notice the SUVs these kids travel in. In addition, the reporter says the price of the weapons (all belong to their family): A handgun made in Egypt-1200$, Jericho handgun-4000$, Jericho handgun with laser pointer-4500$, M16-12,500$, shortened M16 with collapsible stock-14,200$ to 16,600$, and what to me looks like a CAR15 with aimpoint sight is 16,600$ and can get up to 21,400$.
When the kid was asked, "why do you fight the IDF? They are soldiers like you, they wear uniforms, have weapons, how are they different from you?" he answered, "they are English and we are Arabs".
The funny thing is that the adults keep on mentioning that their kids are taught these things because, "that's the situation we live in" as if with all that money they have no choice.
Their grandfather is also interviewed, he worked and lived for 20 years in Tel Aviv, the reporter asks him, "You don't hate Jews?" and he answers, "ofcourse not! No one hates Jews. They are our cousins, trust me nobody hates Jews."
Later he asks the kids about making peace with them (Jews) and they answer "we'll never make peace with them".
kamaz
06-15-2007, 05:01 PM
not surprising. the documentary about gaza that was on HBO, where the film maker was shot at night by an IDF patrol accidentally, they showed kids in Gaza calling jews pigs and apes, and making fun of the way jews pray. Its disgusting and this is almost never reported in the big media. people really have no idea how brainwashed these kids are.
Mr. Nielsen
06-16-2007, 04:51 AM
Perhaps it time for to make a programe about the children of the illegal settlers in Hebron. They clearly seems to be the product of an upbringing of hatred against the legitimate citizens of Hebron. ;-)
http://www.france-palestine.org/IMG/jpg/hebron.jpg
Illegal settlers in Hebron, brain washed by an upbringing of pure hatred :-)
IDF_TANKER
06-16-2007, 05:45 AM
Perhaps it time for to make a programe about the children of the illegal settlers in Hebron.
1. There was such a program followed by a huge scandal.
2. Jews in Hebron are as illegal settlers as the Arabs(little history lesson would help).
3. WTF this has anything to do with the topic of the descussion? Are you suggesting that Palestinians teaching their children to use weapons because they are being hassled by Jewish residents of Hebron? Let me disappoint me you - every family in WB trying to get a gun by any means to protect themselves against ... other Arabs. With all the chaos going on in WB, they simply need means of protections against criminals and such, since there is simply no one who can protect them(police when they are not busy to fight against Hamas, become another criminal organization). Regardless, the boy is talking about growing up and becoming "wanted"(a terrorist) as his biggest life aspiration.
They clearly seems to be the product of an upbringing of hatred against the legitimate citizens of Hebron. ;-)
Aha, and the "upbringing of hatred" seems to be a clear product of Jewish residents executed by the Arabic one (try googling names Shalhevet Pass and Shaked Avraham, don't be shy).
P.S. You have a very annoying habit posting something very "flaming" and then put a smiley next to it - do you find it funny or something? Is it just a joke for you? Why do you bother then? Try videos on youtube - there are plenty of funny ones.
Mr. Nielsen
06-16-2007, 07:40 AM
1. There was such a program followed by a huge scandal.Good.
2. Jews in Hebron are as illegal settlers as the Arabs(little history lesson would help).I kind of doubt that all those people really are the descendents of the jews that lived there prior to 1929. But if they are they may have the same right of return as the palestinian refugees around the world.
3. WTF this has anything to do with the topic of the descussion? Are you suggesting that Palestinians teaching their children to use weapons because they are being hassled by Jewish residents of Hebron? Let me disappoint me you - every family in WB trying to get a gun by any means to protect themselves against ... other Arabs. With all the chaos going on in WB, they simply need means of protections against criminals and such, since there is simply no one who can protect them(police when they are not busy to fight against Hamas, become another criminal organization).So I'm entirely mistaken if I mistook this thread for another "palestinian kids hate jews for no apparent reason" and are trained to become terrorist from the are infants?
Regardless, the boy is talking about growing up and becoming "wanted"(a terrorist) as his biggest life aspiration.A wanted person is automatically a terrorist? Anyone resisting the occupation in anyway is called a terrorist by Israel. I take it that he wants to become a freedom fighter, which was also a common dream among youngsters here in Denmark during the german occupation.
Aha, and the "upbringing of hatred" seems to be a clear product of Jewish residents executed by the Arabic one (try googling names Shalhevet Pass and Shaked Avraham, don't be shy).So there is a rationale explanation for the behavior of the illegal settlers in Hebron. But couldn't the many many times longer list of killed palestinian children, along with the fortys years of occupation equally explain why the palestinians may dislike israelis?
As for the killing of the mentioned children it of course regrettable. But you have to be a pretty sick parent to bring childen into a war zone, for political reasons when you could just have stayed out. Secondly these children wouldn't have been killed either had the israeli state done what they are supposed to do under international law (and common morality), namely never allowed these criminals to settle in the occupied territories.
I surely say that the danish forces in Iraq would step in immediately should some wacko danish citizens decide that they wanted to settle and help themselves to some land in the danish controlled zone.
P.S. You have a very annoying habit posting something very "flaming" and then put a smiley next to it - do you find it funny or something? Is it just a joke for you? Why do you bother then? Try videos on youtube - there are plenty of funny ones.The smiley was there because I thought this mimicking of an israeli propaganda slogan was as funny or ridiculous as the original.
IDF_TANKER
06-16-2007, 07:43 AM
Good.
I kind of doubt that all those people really are the descendents of the jews that lived there prior to 1929. But if they are they may have the same right of return as the palestinian refugees around the world.
So I'm entirely mistaken if I mistook this thread for another "palestinian kids hate jews for no apparent reason" and are trained to become terrorist from the are infants?
A wanted person is automatically a terrorist? Anyone resisting the occupation in anyway is called a terrorist by Israel. I take it that he wants to become a freedom fighter, which was also a common dream among youngsters here in Denmark during the german occupation.
So there is a rationale explanation for the behavior of the illegal settlers in Hebron. But couldn't the many many times longer list of killed palestinian children, along with the fortys years of occupation equally explain why the palestinians may dislike israelis?
As for the killing of the mentioned children it of course regrettable. But you have to be a pretty sick parent to bring childen into a war zone, for political reasons when you could just have stayed out. Secondly these children wouldn't have been killed either had the israeli state done what they are supposed to do under international law (and common morality), namely never allowed these criminals to settle in the occupied territories.
I surely say that the danish forces in Iraq would step in immediately should some wacko danish citizens decide that they wanted to settle and help themselves to some land in the danish controlled zone.
The smiley was there because I thought this mimicking of an israeli propaganda slogan was as funny or ridiculous as the original.
Whatever...
~Berdan
06-16-2007, 09:42 AM
It looks like this mr. Shnizel is just a bot made by some evil programmer from Timbaktu.
Otherwise I don't see any explanation why someone would respond how evil Israel is without even trying to read into thread.
Arabs killing each other-Israel bad.
Arabs teaching their kids how to use guns instead of books-Israel bad(what the frak Hebron settlers got to do with anything).
Eruption of vulcano in mt. Vezuvius-Israel bad.
That's borderline retardness,or just a trolling.
markjh
06-16-2007, 11:00 AM
Why do you guys keep on arguing with the Galloway wannabe?
He has made his mind up and there is no way to have a contructive conversation with him.
Moledet
06-16-2007, 12:29 PM
Nielsen, what does these kids from Ramallah has to do with Hebron's Jewish population?
P.S. Many times Palestinian citizens are killed in heir homes by stray bullets, this kid demonstrated how this might happen (shooting right at the homes that are on the hill).
sct1886
06-16-2007, 06:04 PM
The violence this past week in Palistine by Palistineans against Palistineans spoke for itself about the evil and subhuman inhabitants. Teaching children this hate is foolish and suicidal. Never underestimate the power of stupid people.
kosse
06-17-2007, 03:16 AM
The violence this past week in Palistine by Palistineans against Palistineans spoke for itself about the evil and subhuman inhabitants. Teaching children this hate is foolish and suicidal. Never underestimate the power of stupid people.
Well, in that case most nationalities in the world are brutal, evil and subhuman because most have gone through bloody and senseless civil wars in their history. I don't think it would be that hard to find brainwashed children from any hotspots of the world. It's just so convenient for some Israelis to stir the sh!t to look good compared to their neighbours. I doubt it would be very hard to find indoctrinated children in ultra-ortodox homes either. Extremists are extremists - same crap in a different color wrapper.
Mr. Nielsen
06-17-2007, 05:21 AM
The violence this past week in Palistine by Palistineans against Palistineans spoke for itself about the evil and subhuman inhabitants. Teaching children this hate is foolish and suicidal. Never underestimate the power of stupid people.I assume you are joking.
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