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Bryson C
06-20-2007, 01:26 PM
Japan restores original name to Iwo Jima island



By HANS GREIMEL, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 36 minutes ago


TOKYO - Japan has changed the name of the Pacific island of Iwo Jima, site of the famous World War II battle, to its original name of Iwo To after residents there were prodded into action by two recent Clint Eastwood movies.

The new name in Japanese looks and means the same as Iwo Jima — or Sulfur Island — but sounds different, the Japanese Geographical Survey Institute said.

The institute announced the name change Monday after discussing the issue with Japan's coast guard. An official map with the new name will be released Sept. 1.

Iwo Jima was the site of the World War II battle immortalized by the famous photograph by Joe Rosenthal of The Associated Press of U.S. Marines raising the American flag on the islet's Mount Suribachi.
Before the war, however, the volcanic island was known as Iwo To by the 1,000 or so civilians who lived there.

They were evacuated in 1944 as U.S. forces advanced across the Pacific. Some Japanese navy officers who moved in to fortify the island mistakenly called it Iwo Jima, and the name stuck. After the war, civilians weren't allowed to return and the island was put to exclusive military use by both the U.S. and Japan, cementing its identity.

Never satisfied that the name Iwo Jima took root, locals took action in March after the release of Eastwood's two films "Letters from Iwo Jima" and "Flags of Our Fathers" spotlighted the misnomer.

"Though we're happy for Iwo To, which has been forgotten by history, the islanders are extremely grieved every time they hear Iwo To referred to as Iwo Jima," the local Ogasawara newspaper reported at the time.
Ogasawara, the municipality that administers Iwo To and neighboring islands, responded by adopting a resolution making Iwo To the official reading. Residents and descendants of Iwo To evacuees petitioned the central government to follow suit.

"These people are now scattered nationwide and are not able to go back to Iwo To," said the survey institute's Mitsugu Aizawa. "These people have said that the place is originally called Iwo To and their claim lead to this revision."

Today the only inhabitants are about 400 Japanese soldiers.
The 1945 battle for Iwo Jima pitted some 100,000 U.S. troops against 22,000 Japanese deeply dug into a labyrinth of tunnels and trenches. Nearly 7,000 Americans were killed capturing the island, and fewer than 1,000 of the Japanese would survive.

The Americans occupied the island after the war, and returned it to Japanese jurisdiction in 1968. The U.S. Navy still uses an Iwo To airstrip to train pilots who operate from aircraft carriers.


Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070620/ap_on_re_as/japan_iwo_jima)

2Sheds_Jackson
06-20-2007, 06:43 PM
Before the war, however, the volcanic island was known as Iwo To by the 1,000 or so civilians who lived there.

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Though we're happy for Iwo To, which has been forgotten by history, the islanders are extremely grieved every time they hear Iwo To referred to as Iwo Jima


Ok, 1000 residents before the war - any bets on how many are still left? 10? 20? And they expect us to believe this is why it's being renamed? Probably has more to do with burying more of WWII than some newfound devotion to accuracy.

Atlantic Friend
06-20-2007, 06:51 PM
Well, it's Japanese land. Whatever the motives of the islanders are, their land, their law.

Pekhota
06-20-2007, 06:55 PM
Probably has more to do with burying more of WWII than some newfound devotion to accuracy.

I am inclined to agree with you, 2Sheds. With Japan's previous actions on revisionism (Anyone remember the whole textbook scandal with China?) it seems like the age old tradition of "dishonour" is still strong in Japan and they ashamed by the defeat.

vinny_121_ND
06-20-2007, 08:16 PM
it's their land, nobody won, nobody lost, it was a bloody war. So what if they lost that battle, but in the end, they won because Americans helped them revive their country. Japan is a strong nation now. Let them be free of the past, dark memories of pain, and loss of life.

Opening Batsman
06-20-2007, 10:13 PM
they won because Americans helped them revive their country.

If they won, they wouldn't have needed reviving.

vinny_121_ND
06-20-2007, 10:38 PM
If they won, they wouldn't have needed reviving.

maybe 'won' isn't the right term I was looking for, more like, 'gained the most' out of from that loss in ww2. But like I said, no one wins in war. It's a great accomplishment to have successfully beaten Japan and germany's crazy ways though.

Let them be now. There are more important issues like Iraq and afghanistan to worry about than a damm name change. Now win those wars because the democrats want to pull out all us troops by 2009.

AztecMex
06-21-2007, 12:21 AM
wether it is to mask the shame or for the true name to be reconized properly it is a good excuse for a change. I would perfer for the true name even if it means going away from tradition.All tho it is a huge blow to historical records and if it becomes offical for all of the world a huge blow to the marine corps.

Ratamacue
06-21-2007, 12:57 AM
All tho it is a huge blow to historical records and if it becomes offical for all of the world a huge blow to the marine corps.How so? Changing the name doesn't change the history of what occurred on the island, nor demean or whitewash the sacrifices that Americans and Japanese alike made there.

James
06-21-2007, 01:39 AM
All tho it is a huge blow to historical records and if it becomes offical for all of the world a huge blow to the marine corps.

No, it won't... It will always be known as Iwo Jima, just like "Bois de la Brigade de Marine" will always be known as Belleau Wood.

Robbee
06-21-2007, 01:54 AM
This is a bit of a non-event if you are familiar with the Japanese language. It's just a case of the "official" reading of the kanji characters being changed.
It's the same deal with Mt. Fuji (Fujiayama, Fujisan)

vinny_121_ND
06-21-2007, 10:07 AM
I prefer the name iwo jima, but it's their decision, I will respect it. However, due to its significant history, I think they should not have changed it, and brought this debate up.

CPL Trevoga
06-21-2007, 12:56 PM
They can call it Maryrottencrouch Jima in their tongue as far as I concerned, it's always going to be Iwo Jima in the US.

foxtrot023
06-21-2007, 01:18 PM
wether it is to mask the shame or for the true name to be reconized properly it is a good excuse for a change. I would perfer for the true name even if it means going away from tradition.All tho it is a huge blow to historical records and if it becomes offical for all of the world a huge blow to the marine corps.

Like when they changed the name of Stalingrad to Volgograd? wait a min.....

urbanassualt
06-22-2007, 10:18 AM
People will refer to the island as they wish. If the islanders want the island's name returned to its orginal, let them. They live there and have every right.

I don't have any interest in what the 'official' name is or the reasons behind the sudden name-swap: It will always be referred to by me - and, undoubtedly, the majority of Americans -as 'Iwo Jima!"

AztecMex
06-22-2007, 04:02 PM
How so? Changing the name doesn't change the history of what occurred on the island, nor demean or whitewash the sacrifices that Americans and Japanese alike made there.
I ment by lyrics in many hyms that they have.Iwo jima might be replaced to the offical name and thus changeing a hym thats over 40 years old.The way its said might be change because of how it looks but who knows.

SBL
06-23-2007, 12:59 PM
I ment by lyrics in many hyms that they have.Iwo jima might be replaced to the offical name and thus changeing a hym thats over 40 years old.The way its said might be change because of how it looks but who knows.

Eh, not really. It's negligible considering, as both the article and Rob E. Bee pointed out, the characters will remain the same. It's only the ****unciation in certain circles that will change. I doubt very much the USMC will change their hymns to suit a small, local preference.

hughdotoh
06-23-2007, 01:32 PM
This is a bit of a non-event if you are familiar with the Japanese language. It's just a case of the "official" reading of the kanji characters being changed.
It's the same deal with Mt. Fuji (Fujiayama, Fujisan)

Yep. In Kanji, it would still mean "Sulfur Island". Same difference.

Durandal
06-29-2007, 08:00 AM
No, it won't... It will always be known as Iwo Jima, just like "Bois de la Brigade de Marine" will always be known as Belleau Wood.

I bet a whole bunch of the kids in the forum jsut scratched their head and wondered "What's Belleau Wood?"

I agree completely btw.