Your country's hand grenades

[HCV]

Which hand grenades does your country use currently? It is fairly easy to find out which rifles or machine guns are in service, but hand grenades are often neglected . . . so please state your country and the makes and models of the grenades in service -- and photos are welcome, as well!

Thanks!

Cheers

HANS

[Jµµso]

Finnish hand grenade.
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/161/sirpalevo6.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sirpalevo6.jpg)

http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/index.dsp?level=65&equipment=171

[HCV]

Finnish hand grenade.[/URL]

Thanks! And what is its designation, full and abbreviated? Presumably Käsikranaatti (KÄSIKR) something?

Cheers

HANS

[Frens]

italian OD-82

http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/equipaggiamenti/img_equip/img_schede_armi/Scheda1.JPG

http://bunker.altervista.org/armi/bomb6.jpg
from left to right: F-1 CIS (Russia), OD-82 (Italy), M-61 (USA), RGD-5 (Russia)

[Jµµso]

Thanks! And what is its designation, full and abbreviated? Presumably Käsikranaatti (KÄSIKR) something?

Cheers

HANS

Yes, thats a percussion grenade. Other grenade in FDF site is shrapnel.

[HCV]

Yes, thats a percussion grenade. Other grenade in FDF site is shrapnel.

Did it get a year/model number, like the old KÄSIKR43/83 ?

Cheers

HANS

[Jµµso]

Did it get a year/model number, like the old KÄSIKR43/83 ?

Cheers

HANS

Sorry, i dont know about that.

[quinsen]

The german DM51 / DM51 A1

http://www.abload.de/img/splitterhandgranate_dm512ys.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/sprenghandgrante_und_splitterkoerper_dm51mwm.png
http://www.abload.de/img/800px-dm51_transportkofferfgi.jpg

[BLUE THOR]

Australian Army Grenades F3 (practice grenade) (blue body, brown band) and F1 (HE) (olive with yellow band)
the F1 shown is inert, sorry, its all i could find... :-(
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb83/outbackofnowhere/f3.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb83/outbackofnowhere/f1.jpg

[ce267]

http://www.mkek.gov.tr/Urunler/upbAoduG.jpg

turkish mke mod 56..

http://www.mkek.gov.tr/Urunler/JDpODsIV.jpg

turkish MKE mk2.copy of pineapple...

[Cyclonite]

Yes, thats a percussion grenade. Other grenade in FDF site is shrapnel. You probably meant a concussion grenade.. p-) They all use kahvasytytin/95 (lever fuze) with a delay of ca. 3.5s these days anyways.

[Zero The Hero]

Actually the round, black granade is shrapnel. The canister shaped one is the concussion type.

[ex1cdo]

Canada: C13 Fragmentation Grenade (license built US M67)

Filling: 185g Comp B Explosive (Rdx / TNT)

Specifications:
Length: max, 89.6 mm
Diameter: 63.5 mm
Weight: 395g
Body: pre-fragmented steel
Lethal Radius: 15 m
Casualty Radius: 15 m
Delay Time: 4-5 sec

http://individual.utoronto.ca/scotlandforever/c13.jpg

[Molli]

British armed forces use RUAG's HG 85:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5265/hgclassic180jb5.jpg

http://www.ruag-ammotec.ch/ammotec/en/products_hand_grenades/classic_fragmentation.htm?navid=62

[Institutionalized]

Let's see some Belgian V-40s.

[Jonsson8]

Here are two Swedish hand grenades. There's a newer one as well (Shgr 2000) but I haven't been able to find any pictures of it.

Shgr m56
http://www.soldf.com/images/t_hgr56_1.jpg

Shgr m90
http://www.soldf.com/images/s_hgr90.jpg

[atanabe]

French DF 37/46 (Frag) OF 37 (HE)
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9776/grenadeofdf11cm8.jpg

[Venom PL]

Polish Army is using:

RGO-88 (Defensive HG)
RGZ-89 (Offensive HG)
CGR-42A (Practice HG)
RGD (Smoke HG)
RGŁ (Tear-Gas HG)


http://www.dezamet.com.pl/dezamet/plakat4/plakat4.html

[Dan2004]

M67 Fragmentation Grenade:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/M67b.jpg

The M67 is a replacement for the Vietnam-era M61 "lemon" and the older Mk-II "pineapple" grenade that had been in service since WWII. An M67 can be thrown about 40 meters by the average troop, It's got a 3-5 second fuse that detonates about 6 1/2 oz of Comp-B contained within the fragmentation casing. The M67, on detonation, has a kill radius of 5 meters, and a casualty radius of 15 meters.

[rister]

The Swiss RUAG's HG 85

[SturmPionier]

good pic so far, some interesting grenades.. :)

thats evil..... :eek:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29630&d=1182840854

[GunnerBhoy]

good pic so far, some interesting grenades.. :)

thats evil..... :eek:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29630&d=1182840854

Thats exactly what i thought.

[Infanteer Two Seven]

Thats exactly what i thought.

and its SWISS p-)

[GunnerBhoy]

and its SWISS p-)


Very ironic :roll:

[velvet-cream]

The inside of the F1 grenade is similar to the HG 85.

Lots of tiny ball bearings in a matrix. It's designed to create lots of tiny high velocity pellets that can penetrate flak vests within a short range (thereby increasing the probablity of casualites within it's casualty radius). But because the fragments are so light weight, they will lose their velocity quickly, thereby producing a smaller danger area (a good thing).

[Cyclonite]

I'm not sure if it's necessarily any "nastier" than an ordinary frag grenade, just a hell of a lot more effective when the number of fragments outweighs the mass of them, ie. when used against kevlar wearing personnel. IIRC that HG 85 uses tungsten shots which makes it a far more effective penetrator, I can't remember offhand but I believe with tungsten pellets you need a couple hundred m/s less speed to achieve the same penetration as would the same sized steel shots give. This, accompanied by the better aerodynamic properties of preshaped shots, gives you a lethal radius several meters wider compared to most ordinary fragmentation grenades.. Oh well, this was completely OT.

[Swedish_Marine]

To add to Jonsson8´s post

The Shgr m/56 (fragmentation grenade m/65) use TNT for filler and the fragmentation comes from the shell and a pre-fragmented inner shell. 3 second fuse.

Shgr m/90 has a plastic shell and the filler is PETN. Fragmentation comes from 5500 ballbearings. 3.5 second fuse.

Shgr m/2000 also has a PETN filler and fragmentation comes from a steel coil and 230 ballbearings in the top and bottom. 3.5 second fuse

Chgr m/96 (concussion grenade m/96) has a plastic shell and the filler is PETN, but produces no fragmentation. 3.5 second fuse. http://www.soldf.com/images/s_chgr96.jpg

All of the above grenades (except for the concussion grenade) has a 5 meter kill radius.

[Infanteer Two Seven]

Very ironic :roll:

ure veryyy funny:roll:

[GunnerBhoy]

ure veryyy funny:roll:

I ave my moments :)

[Herrmannek]

Is any of the known to you grenades have adjustable delay fuse*? If there are g-shock detonated grenades still in use(I think Italians used ones of those kind, series with red body)?


*by other means than swapping whole fuse mechanism like its done with Russian F1.

[joegrunt]

I am a contractor, training forces in Africa; we are using the M75 (Romanian made) fragmentation hand grenade. I am having difficulty finding some technical data on it. I have found a couple of sites, but they have conflicting data on them. I have found out that they do have steel spheres in them and that once the spoon flies you have between 3-5 seconds before detonation.
If anyone could help me find the following, it would be most appreciated:
1. A cut away view of the M75.
2. Any technical data (kill radius, danger area, etc).

We had the recruits throw them yesterday, not a very loud hand grenade, but has an interesting blast pattern. Thanks in advance, and I hope I can help anyone out here as well.

[MARINO]

http://www.instalaza.es/img/alh.jpg
Alhambra
http://www.instalaza.es/img/alh-do.jpg
Alhambra-DO

[Kampfhamster]

British armed forces use RUAG's HG 85:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5265/hgclassic180jb5.jpg

http://www.ruag-ammotec.ch/ammotec/en/products_hand_grenades/classic_fragmentation.htm?navid=62

excellent choice. Haven't seen a HG85 in a long time though, my militia unit doesn't get them and lately all HG-training in the artillery has been cancelled.

[cmhm20]

I am a contractor, training forces in Africa; we are using the M75 (Romanian made) fragmentation hand grenade. I am having difficulty finding some technical data on it. I have found a couple of sites, but they have conflicting data on them. I have found out that they do have steel spheres in them and that once the spoon flies you have between 3-5 seconds before detonation.
If anyone could help me find the following, it would be most appreciated:
1. A cut away view of the M75.
2. Any technical data (kill radius, danger area, etc).

We had the recruits throw them yesterday, not a very loud hand grenade, but has an interesting blast pattern. Thanks in advance, and I hope I can help anyone out here as well.

Could it be that you have a Yugoslavian M75 grenade? If so here a cutaway.

[joegrunt]

Could it be that you have a Yugoslavian M75 grenade? If so here a cutaway.

Thank you very much. I should have thought about the original country of origin. That pic will help my recruits understand it a lot better now.

[Mike Kilo]

http://shutter15.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/13/001/3A/FF/99/FD/Hujp8ar-bPcF175nIRdsg8uNCFkOPZM40300.jpg

MK

[1911-a1]

Serbian
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/1509/dscf0494jo3.jpg

[Vucijak]

Awesome photos 1911!

There is also a third one. Bigger than the two on your photo and also much stronger ... bigger load. OD color and straight surface.

Do you know which one I am talking about!?

[china_police]

Chinese handgenerade
http://www.sinodefence.com/army/small_arms/images/type86handgrenade_01.jpg

[cmhm20]

Awesome photos 1911!

There is also a third one. Bigger than the two on your photo and also much stronger ... bigger load. OD color and straight surface.

Do you know which one I am talking about!?


This one? The M50?

[Vucijak]

Exactly that one!

[baddy3]

This one? The M50?

while collecting leftover arms in Bosnia I spoke to a few guys who had handed in some hand grenades. they all generally referred to the black, ball bearing type of grenades as firecrackers which they'd found totally ineffective in combat. this M50 is said to be an older model that proved very deadly for its cast metal outer shell.

[1911-a1]

Awesome photos 1911!

There is also a third one. Bigger than the two on your photo and also much stronger ... bigger load. OD color and straight surface.

Do you know which one I am talking about!?


Here my friend:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/997/grenade1hd0.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3862/grenade2fw2.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/816/grenade3yf8.jpg

[1911-a1]

I just found a very interesting PDF. A lot of information about Swedish grenades.

http://soldf.e.kth.se/docs/fmpub/Soldatreglementen/soldr_mtrl_vapen_hgr.pdf

[cmhm20]

I just found a very interesting PDF. A lot of information about Swedish grenades.

http://soldf.e.kth.se/docs/fmpub/Soldatreglementen/soldr_mtrl_vapen_hgr.pdf


If you read Swedish....p-)

[1911-a1]

If you read Swedish....p-)

Oh crap, forgot to mention that. Well there are some pics you non-Swedes can look at :)

By the way, does anybody have any more info/pics on the Spanish(?) "Alhambra-DO" grenade?

[christopherh]

excellent choice. Haven't seen a HG85 in a long time though, my militia unit doesn't get them and lately all HG-training in the artillery has been cancelled.


not a subject matter expert but just did grenade training. ready for the up coming fun in the sand and i did not use this grenade i will get some info tom as to what i used and trained on.