Judge gives 'pathetic' sentence to paedophile

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Judge gives 'pathetic' sentence to paedophile


Tuesday Jun 26 06:00 AEST
By ninemsn staff

A man who raped a 10-year-old girl twice will be free in just weeks after a British judge ruled the victim was "dressed provocatively".
Judge Julian Hall is under fire in the UK over the "pathetic sentence" he imposed on the paedophile, who was facing life imprisonment, the Daily Telegraph reports.

The same judge was criticised earlier this year for setting another child *** offender free, and asking that he give his victim money to "buy a nice new bicycle."

In the latest case, Judge Hall said he faced a moral dilemma because the "young woman" had been wearing a frilly bra and thong.

Oxford Crown Court heard that window cleaner Keith Fenn, 24, and accomplice Darren Wright, 34, attacked the victim in a park in South Oxfordshire.

The girl, who has been in local authority care since the age of four, was on her own when she met the pair in the street.
"It is quite clear she is a very disturbed child and a very needy child and she is a ******ly precocious child. She liked to dress provocatively," the judge said.

"Did she look like she was 10? Certainly not. She looked 16."
Fenn was given concurrent two-year and 18-month sentences, meaning he will be free in just weeks after spending eight months in jail on remand.
Wright, who had also spent eight months awaiting sentence, is already free.

Dr Michele Elliott of Kidscape called the decision "utterly derisory".
"For the judge to say that the way she was dressed in any way excuses a 24-year-old man having *** with her is disgraceful and ridiculous."

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=275100

[evanfitz]

"Did she look like she was 10? Certainly not. She looked 16."

...... is that his defense? rape is rape rather your 9 or 59. The judge needs to be looked into.
The whole "buy her a nice bicycle" sentence is just pathetic. The man should be behind bars for the rest of his life.

[signatory]

The same judge was criticised earlier this year for setting another child *** offender free, and asking that he give his victim money to "buy a nice new bicycle."


Wtf... sounds like that judge is freaking nuts.

[supercontra]

Sounds like the judge is into the same thing. Lock the MF (along with all pedos) in a cage full of rabid wolverines.

[SineJustitia]

A man who raped a 10-year-old girl twice will be free in just weeks after a British judge ruled the victim was "dressed provocatively".

"Good ruling judge! Women who dress fashionably are begging to be raped. Does she show her face in public? Well, than she is just asking for it. Any woman who is not dressed in a loose black sweater, a long black skirt and with black stockings (or a burqa or niqaab) is a whore and should be raped immediately.

Women should know that there is no such thing as "freedom", and it is their responsibility to behave prudent, because it's not the men's fault if they can't controll themselves; that's just "nature". If women do not stay indoors all day or leave the house with a male familymember accompanying them, it's their own mistake if they get raped."

Yes, the above is bitter irony. :bash:

At least it should be, but apparently, judge Hall thinks differently. Or he misses the slope he's pushed the Law on. :-*$

Since when did Britain become bloody Saudi Arabia?! In the Netherlands, it's heading the same way. And no, I'm not blaming muslims, just pointing out dangerous parallels: in the Netherlands all kinds of fundamental-christian movements are rearing their conservative heads, for instance trying to prohibit advertisements for bikini's (no, not seducive lingerie or see-through bra's, but... bikini's.) :cantbeli:

What happened to the notion that the Law was there to protect liberties and freedom? The Law is the Leviathan that keeps the peace, which simply means that people are granted freedom but are kept in check in order to prevent people from violating other people's freedom. I think rape can be considered a violation of other people's freedom... But hey, Julian Hall is a judge so I'm sure he knows better... :-(

And to give it a military element: is this the free west we as a military are defending? Bugger me... so much for motivation.:|

[Vandervahn]

Reminds me of a case in Italy where the judge not only put partial blame on the 24-year old victim for wearing "arousing" tight jeans, but also said that it "were impossible to undress said tight jeans without some cooperation from the woman herself". Can´t remember the outcome though.

[Lt.Havoc]

Great, another Judge who disregads women and lets danreous criminals run free. Thats just sick and plain wrong, that Judge should be removed from the court and replaced ASAP.

[MoFo]

Shoot 'em both, I hate our justice system...ahem..system.

[wicked_hind]

That judge probably thinks the same way as that Muslim cleric in Australia, in that women who are scantily dressed are pieces of meat displayed for men who can't control their urges. I say, give that pedo and the judge a classic chain whipping.

[BLUE THOR]

this is the kinda situation where i wish i had a third barrel on my 12 gauge.. slot all three of them, the two bastards for raping a kid, and the judge for looking the other way... they are wasting our oxygen.

[wicked_hind]

I forgot to add......after the chain whipping, pour salt all over their open wounds.

[Lawson]

What I don't understand how something so blatant as this does not get a judge removed.

[wicked_hind]

What's even worse is that it happens more than it should be happening. I mean, how the hell can any judge justify such a pathetic sentence, knowing full well that the victim is most likely to be scarred emotionally for the rest of his/her life? These creeps will never be rehabilited, they can't be treated, and the fact that this judge slapped the pedo on the wrist just basically tells the rest of them out there that they can get away with it, as long as he's practicing. Something tells me that there might be more to this judge than we may know. This is just utterly sickening.

[afreu]

I wish more of these sick bastards would share the destiny of Jeff Kohlver from Hard Candy (sterilized and talked into suicide).

[LEGEND]

Now that's one f'd up justice system. If it goes like this, Britain will be the next safe heaven for pedophiles.

[Rictor]

At the risk of sounding like a card-carrying NAMBLA member, what kind of 10 year-old wears a "frilly bra and thong"? This suggest way more knowledge of ******ity than a kid, even one from the streets, ought to have.

Still though, rape is rape. Even if she looked 16, that's below the age of consent, and they should be sentenced accordingly.

[wicked_hind]

At the risk of sounding like a card-carrying NAMBLA member, what kind of 10 year-old wears a "frilly bra and thong"? This suggest way more knowledge of ******ity than a kid, even one from the streets, ought to have.


Makes you wonder why any parent would dress or allow their 10 year old daughter to dress in such a fashion. I didn't think about that until you said what you said.

[BLUE THOR]

Makes you wonder why any parent would dress or allow their 10 year old daughter to dress in such a fashion. I didn't think about that until you said what you said.

Mate, she was in "local authority care since the age of four", whatever that means in Britain. yes, the idea of a 10 yr old dressing like that is wrong, but doesnt even come close to giving those blokes any right to commit rape, or a judge to consider leniency. not that you suggested anything of the sort.
the British Child Welfare mob should be asking themselves your question though

[Durandal]

THe ADULT knows its wrong and the 10 year-old CHILD is just that, a child. Regardless of how she was dressed dude has a problem, like an alcoholic has a problem and will strike...hurt....destroy...again. Pedophiles are always a threat unless they are watched and helped...


...in jail or a center for such criminals.

[Laconian]

Can one of the Brit members advise how judges sit in UK. US Fed judges are appointed for life, but some states the judge is an elected official and has terms and thus voted out of office. Is this true there? If it is this is someone not worthy of the bench-the idea of the defense of the sexy clothing has not been accepted in the US for about 30 years, maybe longer. If not can a judge in UK be removed from the bench for irresponsible judiciary conduct?

[Bia]

Abercrombie makes thongs for little girls...

Think about that when buying your kid Abercrombie anything.

[The Punisher]

Abercrombie makes thongs for little girls...

Think about that when buying your kid Abercrombie anything.
Why do you know that?

[Bia]

Why do you know that?
Because it's no secret.

lol

[imohammed2]

first time i saw that word spelt correctly.....unless, of course, you are american....then you would also spell 'spelled', not 'spelt' :)

[Lawson]

At the risk of sounding like a card-carrying NAMBLA member, what kind of 10 year-old wears a "frilly bra and thong"? This suggest way more knowledge of ******ity than a kid, even one from the streets, ought to have.

With that line of thought you would have to go onto who is looking after the girl and why they brought the items. Also the company that made the item and how it is marketed (targeted to young (8-12) girls). Then moving onto how "frilly bra and thong" is a ****** object in todays world.

Rape of anyone is a heinous crime but rape of a child imo is much worse then rape of a adult, at least a adult has a chance to defend them self.

And even if the child was wearing "filly bra and thong" surely she had on proper cloths and wasn't prancing around saying "me love you long time":cantbeli:.

[Calanen]

Can one of the Brit members advise how judges sit in UK. US Fed judges are appointed for life, but some states the judge is an elected official and has terms and thus voted out of office. Is this true there? If it is this is someone not worthy of the bench-the idea of the defense of the sexy clothing has not been accepted in the US for about 30 years, maybe longer. If not can a judge in UK be removed from the bench for irresponsible judiciary conduct?

They are appointed by the Lord Chancellor. It's not an election. Since 2005, a Judicial Appointments Commission tells the Lord Chancellor who to appoint.

You can make a complaint about a judge's conduct to a Judicial Complaints Committee. If it's a really really bad complaint, then the Lord Chancellor can remove the judge, if the Lord Chief Justice agrees. So if you are a particularly wacky judge and the Chief likes you, you are sticking around:

http://www.dca.gov.uk/consult/jacommission/ at [102]

On the very rare occasions that the Lord Chancellor receives a complaint of such seriousness that, were it to be found justified, it would raise the possibility that he might seek to remove the judge concerned from office, he asks the Lord Chief Justice to nominate a judge to conduct an investigation. Following that investigation, the nominated judge reports to the Lord Chief Justice and Lord Chancellor who then decide together what action, if any, to take (subject to any representations from the judge under investigation). The Lord Chancellor only exercises his power to remove a judge with the agreement of the Lord Chief Justice.

[seraosha]

The amount of "over-******ized" clothing being sold to kids is astonishing.
I made the "Dad Law" that I go with my daughter whenever clothing is being purchased...she's relatively cool about the whole thing, but she's more punk then anything else, and I have no problem with punk gear...but the "slut-wear" these kids can buy at the mall is over the top.

Sounds like the agency in charge of this girls life needs to answer a few questions, as does that judge. The rapists should just be shot.

[Laconian]

Calanen, thanks for the response. So you are as stuck with your judges as some of us are with our Federal judges.

[Atlantic Friend]

Judge gives 'pathetic' sentence to paedophile

Judge Julian Hall was dressed in a quite provocative way, what with the dress and wig, y'know...

[deagle]

thats an insult to law in UK. just b/c you dress provactaviley, is not an invitation for rape. the judge should imagine if his/her daughter was 10 but looked 16 and got raped. and she was raped 2x. and a bike don't fix the emotional trauma either. don't you need common sense to be a lawyer/judge ?

[dimasorokine]

Stop it you Pedophobes! Support the pedophiles, I hear they are planning a Pedo pride parade in Moscow next week, maybe they will get the respect they deserve there!

-Dima

PS: I'm being sarcastic.

[Calanen]

Calanen, thanks for the response. So you are as stuck with your judges as some of us are with our Federal judges.

I should state that, I offer no comment on this judge at all, but as to judges generally in the UK:

Like all things, the realities of democracy mean that if there is enough sustained public outcry about a particular judge, it is more likely the Lord Chancellor would have the judge removed for whatever the infraction was.

Of course, I stress that I am not saying anything about *this* particular judge named in the thread, just referring to the practicalities of removing any member of the judiciary in the United Kingdom.

[Laconian]

Calanen, are you an esteemed member of the bar? That comment was right out of lawyerville. I took no inference about this particular judge from your answer, only how a judge under UK law might be dismissed from the bench. I don't think anything you put forth in your answer even approached the libelous or scandalous marker.

[Calanen]

Calanen, are you an esteemed member of the bar? That comment was right out of lawyerville. I took no inference about this particular judge from your answer, only how a judge under UK law might be dismissed from the bench. I don't think anything you put forth in your answer even approached the libelous or scandalous marker.

Shot you a PM.

[oldsoak]

There you go folks. :roll: . We have the laws, we got the cops, we have the prisons, we have the felon in custody - and then we have this numpty of a judge. Everything else is there, just not the f***wit with the wig in the high chair.

[SOG]

someone needs to put the judge in a dress and rape the **** out of him. what? he looked provocative! he winked at me!

[WKD]

Judge Julian Hall was dressed in a quite provocative way, what with the dress and wig, y'know...

Sounds like he's asking for it to me.

[Herrmannek]

I'm really poor at guessing age.. but this is ridiculous. Telling difference between any given 10 and 16(legal age I presume) is more than easy... This judge is a bribed/sick idiot that should get his/her ass whipped with whip....