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OzMan
05-06-2004, 06:10 PM
A little bit of background info:

My high school's newspaper staff (teachers and students alike) is dominated by liberals, who will take every chance they can to write a long column story about how terrible of a man GWB is, and how the war is going, blah, blah, blah. They even have their own cute little political cartoons about the topic (not Rall-style, but I get the same feeling).

Since they offer a "letters to the editor" page, I kindly wrote to them a few editions back and politely asked them to either put in a somewhat conservative perspective in (to accurately balance out and represent everyone at the school), or to tone down the one-sidedness of it all. On the very next issue there were two or three additional columns shunning me down, and the administrators of the newspaper even wrote in their own column that "there are people on the staff who have conservative opinions, but may not choose to air them."

Well, my common sense tells me that if they won't speak, I will. In addition to that, I even put in an application to write for the newspaper next year, so that people couldn't give me the crap of, "Well, if you don't like it, write it yourself."

About a week ago I found out that the slots for newspaper were selected, and those who were both selected and "not slotted" were given notice. I found out from one of my non-liberal friends on newspaper staff that I was the only applicant who received no response. I was the only one to be "rejected".

Well, one of the writers for the newspaper decided to drop in on my lunch hour to debate me. They approach my table and interrupt my conversation to carry on about politics. This was the same person who I nearly beat to death (but was restrained before any action) a few months back after the National Anthem at a football game.

This person proceeded to swear at me, point his finger in my face, generalize me as a "conservative pigdog", and pitched the biggest crock of **** I'd ever heard in my life. He claimed that the Cold War was a joke, and that we should've allowed the Communists to continue their crusade of world revolution and domination. He also stated that we did the right thing with Rwanda in 1994, and claimed that the "things" Saddam fired at Israel during Desert Storm never hurt anyone. And he concluded at the end of his speech that since I was a conservative, I had ZERO common sense.

I kept my cool, never swore, never raised my voice, never did any namecalling. Fortunately I had weight training as my next class, which allowed me to work out some of my aggression. I just thought that it was quite rude for someone of their stature to come up to me on my time and do that.

Did I do the right thing? What do y'all think? Here's the story about me and this kid before...
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4523

memphiz
05-06-2004, 06:19 PM
Was it a Mass debate?










rofl rofl

EvanL
05-06-2004, 06:28 PM
I guess ill follow up with memphizs witty remark...
Are you the Master Debator?
hahahaha rofl rofl

memphiz
05-06-2004, 06:30 PM
I guess ill follow up with memphizs witty remark...
Are you the Master Debator?
hahahaha rofl rofl
Im the master of mass debating :D

Sayeret
05-06-2004, 07:39 PM
Not too long ago this stupid kid who claimed to be a conservative told me that the US should rely on the UN for almost all of its descisions, that the US is losing in Afghanistan, Iraq was a mistake because the US didn't receive the UN approval and a bunch of other crap. I debated with the kid for a little while but was told to be quiet because of the teacher.

There was a girl in my debate class who believed that Michael Jackson was being convicted because of racism and that OJ Simpson was innocent and that the only reason people think it isn't is becasue of racism. The rest of my debating class always thought it was funny when we would argue with her because she had a bunch of crazy reaons to back up beliefs.

memphiz
05-06-2004, 07:52 PM
Not too long ago this stupid kid who claimed to be a conservative told me that the US should rely on the UN for almost all of its descisions, that the US is losing in Afghanistan, Iraq was a mistake because the US didn't receive the UN approval and a bunch of other crap. I debated with the kid for a little while but was told to be quiet because of the teacher.

There was a girl in my debate class who believed that Michael Jackson was being convicted because of racism and that OJ Simpson was innocent and that the only reason people think it isn't is becasue of racism. The rest of my debating class always thought it was funny when we would argue with her because she had a bunch of crazy reaons to back up beliefs.
I hate stupid people like that :fork:

Abolith
05-06-2004, 07:58 PM
It's called an ArmBar, and if it had been me I would have introduced him to it :lol:

Seoulstriker
05-06-2004, 08:22 PM
I can't stand those people, eagle. Have you thought about making an underground newspaper? Maybe 1 side of 1 sheet with your own column, etc, and distribute it throughout the school like the school newspaper? When you do that, contact the administration and tell them what is happening. Let those liberals fry. :)

California Joe
05-06-2004, 08:30 PM
There is a long history in this country of alternative student newspapers. The Harvard Lampoon springs to mind. Get a couple of like minded associates together and have at it. As long as you're fair and balanced. ;) And don't beat the **** out of anyone for a bit.

mocking_loudly_died
05-06-2004, 09:15 PM
I kept my cool, never swore, never raised my voice, never did any namecalling. Fortunately I had weight training as my next class, which allowed me to work out some of my aggression. I just thought that it was quite rude for someone of their stature to come up to me on my time and do that.

Did I do the right thing? What do y'all think? Here's the story about me and this kid before...
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4523

You are going to go through life with people that try to shut down opposing points of view through overly dramatic and forceful lecturing styles. Don't be afraid to aggressively argue back, but it's important to keep your cool.

Those that rush to use insults first usually know that they are losing the debate / argument.

It's important to not be tunnel visioned – listen to different points of view and try and see why they have those opinions.

Ratamacue
05-06-2004, 09:47 PM
What Mocking and Joe said. Most of the time when people get all loud and self-righteous with me about these things I just walk away if all else fails. Let them believe what they want. I've had plenty of relatively intelligent discussions with people of opposing views, but when someone just doesn't want to listen to you and only wants to shove their ideas down your throat, just walk away. Beating the **** out of them would be fun but then again, beating the **** out of anyone is fun yet the wrong thing to do in that situation.

Beowulf
05-06-2004, 10:00 PM
Act like your gonna say something in response then put a hand behind his head and hit him in the face as hard as you can with your elbow/forearm. Repeat...repeat some more.


If he gets his hands up then put both hands behind his head and use knees, keep your elbows close together...repeat. When he goes limp make sure to bounce his skull off the lunch table....repeat.

Remember as Uncle Stoli says: don't kick a man when he's down .........stomp the dog sht outta him, its safer and does loads more damage.

Enjoy, try not to go to prison.

Ratamacue
05-06-2004, 10:02 PM
FG would disapprove, Beo. ;)

Beowulf
05-06-2004, 10:08 PM
FG would disapprove, Beo. ;)

Meh....she likes a marine anyway...he prolly has an ear necklace at home....just saying.

ibstolidude
05-06-2004, 10:17 PM
I guess ill follow up with memphizs witty remark...
Are you the Master Debator?
hahahaha rofl rofl
No I am however a cunning linguist.

farmgirl
05-06-2004, 11:05 PM
FG would disapprove, Beo. ;)

Meh....she likes a marine anyway...he prolly has an ear necklace at home....just saying.


Is there a problem with that? It gives me more places to store my earrings. p-)

Jack Mehoff
05-06-2004, 11:13 PM
I'm a master of debater.