Bear Trap - excellent book about Soviets in A-stan

[2RHPZ]

This is kind a great reading that is available online at:

http://www.sovietsdefeatinafghanistan.com/beartrap/english/index.htm

[2RHPZ]

I have downloaded whole book and it is available in .txt format. Fo those who are interested PM me your email address and wait a second (or two :) )

[Rnagerrick]

Bear Trap is also an awesome documentary about chopper and guerrilla warfare on AStan from the Discovery Wings Channel.

[MEGR]

Sweet.. Thanks.

[oldsoak]

Still not sure that the west should have got too involved there - we got into bed with a load of unsavoury characters. Still reckon we'd have done better to have kept out of it. Just goes to show that we do cut off our noses to spite our faces at times.

[Aussie E]

Two great books on the Afghan war are:
Afghan Guerilla Warfare Jalali/Grau
The Bear Went Over the Mountain Grau
Each book is a breakdown of different actions from each side. Most of the "de-briefs" are one or two pages by the commanders of the forces in the action with commentary from the authors at the end of each incident. Great reads for anyone wanting to read about small unit/guerilla tactics.
And oldsoak, sometimes you have to do something with a bad situation, there are no good solutions in war.

[2RHPZ]

Hello Aussie E, is there any chance to get these books online? Could you send a link? (I think you would do that if you had one though, huh? :) )

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

damn i want a copy...

[The Clip]

So Biased! Information is bull****, my father served there and cam back very fit and healthy. We may have suffered 13,000 dead but the rebels suffered 2,000,000 dead rofl rofl rofl rofl ****ing Muslim scum, Who would have thought in the next century I would be fighting another Islamic dirty enemy!!! :-*$ :fork: . Soldiers who fight them develop extreme hatred for them. Same **** happened in the jungles of Vietnam, 58,000 US dead another 120,000 wounded. Vietnamese dead 900,000 including civilians.

[Aussie E]

CAG 147
the first books publishers website is www.motorbooks.com and the second is www.frankcass.com, both books are execellent studies on the war between Afghanistan and Russia. The book chapters are broken up into:
Afghan Guerrilla Warfare http://www.motorbooks.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/mbi.woa/wa/sendToPage?pageName=AdvSearch
1. Ambushes (16)
2. Raids (10)
3. Shelling Attacks (2)
4. Attacking a Strong Point (6)
5. Mine Warfare (2)
6. Blocking Enemy Lines of Communication (8)
7. Siege Warfare (2)
8. Defending Against Raids (4)
9. Fighting Heliborne Insertions (3)
10. Defending Against Cordon and Search (5)
11. Defending Base Camps (14)
12. Counter Ambushes (5)
13. Fighting in an Encirclement (13)
14. Urban Combat (14)
15. Conclusion
The Bear Went Over the Mountain I can't find a direct link.
1. Blocking and Destroying Guerilla Forces
2. The Offnsive in Populated Areas and Mountains
3. The Application of Tactical Air Assualts
4. Defense and Outpost Secruity
5. March and Convoy Escorts
6. Conducting Ambushes
7. And in Conclusion
90% of the vignette's have at least one if not multiple tactical maps showing location/movement/types of troops etc. as well.
I bought both from Barnes & Noble (had to order the second), you could try www.barnesandnoble.com or www.amazon.com.

[Aussie E]

Other good Afghan/Soviet War books:
Cahrlie Wilson's War Crile
Ghost Wars Coll
Jihad! Carew
The Soviet-Afghan War The Russian General Staff
The Hidden War Borovik
War at the Top of the World Margolis (not Cindy<---HOT!)

[16 OBr SpN]

So Biased! Information is bull****, my father served there and cam back very fit and healthy. We may have suffered 13,000 dead but the rebels suffered 2,000,000 dead rofl rofl rofl rofl f*** Muslim scum, Who would have thought in the next century I would be fighting another Islamic dirty enemy!!! :-*$ :fork: . Soldiers who fight them develop extreme hatred for them. Same **** happened in the jungles of Vietnam, 58,000 US dead another 120,000 wounded. Vietnamese dead 900,000 including civilians.

Слушай меня внимательно уважаемый!

Я тебя попросил предоставить мне свои данные: ФИО и номер в/ч. Отправь в приват. Хотя заранее знаю что ни хуя ты мне не отправишь.

Иначе перестань пиздеть!! Заебал ты уже!!!

P.S. Sorry for Russian guys.

[Piotrek]

We may have suffered 13,000 dead but the rebels suffered 2,000,000 dead rofl rofl rofl rofl [...] Same **** happened in the jungles of Vietnam, 58,000 US dead another 120,000 wounded. Vietnamese dead 900,000 including civilians.

The problem is that war is not about killing people but about achieveing strategic / political goals - Soviet Union didnt achieve its goals in A-stan and USA didnt achieve its goals Vietnam - so they lose the war..sorry.

[Kaos]

Thx a lot, Aussie and CAG
;)

[2RHPZ]

Online book Two Steps From Heaven by Mikhail Evstafiev (Soviets in A-stan) at:

http://artofwar.ru/english/mikhail_evstafiev/index_tale_evstafiev_engl.html

[2RHPZ]

EDIT

[2RHPZ]

Finally I have found the online version of the book The Bear Went Over The Mountain. It is available to download in .pdf format at:

http://www.ndu.edu/inss/books/Books%20-%201996/Bear%20Went%20Over%20Mountain%20-%20Aug%2096/BrOrMn.pdf

(13MB)

[Abbyy]

Thanks man!