The picture that anti-bush people don't want you to see...

[Jack Mehoff]

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/06/loc_moment06.html

Bush pauses to comfort teen
'This girl lost her mom in the World Trade Center on 9-11'

By Kristina Goetz
The Cincinnati Enquirer


During his visit to the Golden Lamb Inn in Lebanon, President Bush stops to hug Ashley Faulkner, who lost her mom in the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/06/hug.jpg
Photo by Lynn Faulkner

In a moment largely unnoticed by the throngs of people in Lebanon waiting for autographs from the president of the United States, George W. Bush stopped to hold a teenager's head close to his heart.

Lynn Faulkner, his daughter, Ashley, and their neighbor, Linda Prince, eagerly waited to shake the president's hand Tuesday at the Golden Lamb Inn. He worked the line at a steady campaign pace, smiling, nodding and signing autographs until Prince spoke:

"This girl lost her mom in the World Trade Center on 9-11."

Bush stopped and turned back.

"He changed from being the leader of the free world to being a father, a husband and a man," Faulkner said. "He looked right at her and said, 'How are you doing?' He reached out with his hand and pulled her into his chest."

Faulkner snapped one frame with his camera.

"I could hear her say, 'I'm OK,' " he said. "That's more emotion than she has shown in 21/2 years. Then he said, 'I can see you have a father who loves you very much.' "

"And I said, 'I do, Mr. President, but I miss her mother every day.' It was a special moment."

Special for Lynn Faulkner because the Golden Lamb was the place he and his wife, Wendy Faulkner, celebrated their anniversary every year until she died in the south tower of the World Trade Center, where she had traveled for business.

The day was also special for Ashley, a 15-year-old Mason High School student, because the visit was reminiscent of a trip she took four years ago with her mother and Prince. They spent all afternoon in the rain waiting to see Bush on the campaign trail. Ashley remembers holding her mother's hand, eating Triscuits she packed and bringing along a book in case she got bored.

But this time was different. She understood what the president was saying, and she got close enough to see him face to face.

"The way he was holding me, with my head against his chest, it felt like he was trying to protect me," Ashley said. "I thought, 'Here is the most powerful guy in the world, and he wants to make sure I'm safe.' I definitely had a couple of tears in my eyes, which is pretty unusual for me."

The photo has been circulating across the country, Faulkner said. Relatives have passed it on to friends, bosses and acquaintances. As they tell the story, they also share in Wendy Faulkner's legacy, which her family continues through the Wendy Faulkner Memorial Children's Foundation.

"I'm a pretty cynical and jaded guy at this point in my life," Faulkner said of the moment with the president. "But this was the real deal. I was really impressed. It was genuine and from the heart."

[HELEX]

So whats your point?

Can be honest, but can be treacherous too. Politicians are professional in Baby- and Childhugging.

[WanderingNomad]

Anti-Bush people, like myself, don't say he's a monster without feelings and that he isn't sincere about some of the things he says.

He would be a walking dead if he hadn't felt for that girl, or 9/11 in general!

But that doesn't make him the 'holy man' he, or his fans, pretend him to be. A lot about him, his politics, connections, motives, actions etc still suck IMHO. Not to say they're dangerous.

[Kilgor]

Bush is the anti-christ, eats children and kittens, and it a emotionless crimial.

The picture is obviously doctored :P

[Argyll]

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/06/hug.jpg

Or what about this

"George Bush smothers Anti War protester in a fit of rage when questioned about his War record"

What's your point HELEX?,just like Uninen tread very very carefully from now until the end of the month,just a bit of friendly advice ;)

Ok you Anti Bush people,especially the Europeans......why the hell are you here........to deliberately start flame wars.I'm no fan of Bush but,name one Poitical Leader who's not an Asshole to soemone somewhere in their country?
Remember you're a guest here,this maybe a free speaking site within the forum rules,but cross that line and you'll be history.

[n.ignomo]

That pic just don't show anything at all ! In one way or another.

[dacanadianbomb]

Please lets not start to generalise about Europeans either . I am a Canadian living in Europe. Just because ten people act like morons dont generalise everyone in Europe. Just like one should not generalise anyone because of a few.

Hey and I know its hard. If the only contact or dealings you have had with a certain type of people is always negative its hard to see something different.

just some thoughts.

And for the picture, he did it, whether it be political or emotional, look at what the person who was hugged said. Thats the feeling she had.So who cares what reason he had to do it. He made one persons day.

[Jack Mehoff]

That pic just don't show anything at all ! In one way or another.

Maybe not to you :roll: . Are you even American? Ever been to ground zero? If not, please proceed to STFU.

[n.ignomo]

Do you want me to give you photos like this one about every single leader in the world, including dictators ?
(i don't say Bush is one of 'em). I just say that on these moments people go with anybody that supports them.

[dacanadianbomb]

What does his comment have to do with whether he is american or has been to ground zero Jack ?

[Argyll]

What I see here is people who have just joined a site called Military Photos,with very few post come into this forum and start stirring ****.

Question........what was the main reason for joining this site?

[WanderingNomad]

helex has quite some numbers though ;)

[2RHPZ]

Arabs say something like: "Dogs bark and caravan still goes on!" I don´t want to join stupid debates but I am too fed up with stupid European liberals and their socialistic imperium runs by idiots and determined to fail! You don´t know nothing about current world, nothing about dealing with terrorists, nothing about dictatorship. This my first and last emotional post. Bye.

PS: BTW, I am from Europe.

[Luxembourger]

The pic is great , I have seen other images where BUsh was addressing in 2002 families who lost their soldiers in Afghanistan, he was talking directly to the families during his speech and he had tears in his eyes.

There is no doubt that man has feelings unlike dicators who just pose with kids for propaganda **** .

I like Bush but not really those arround him like Ch. and Rums.
Colin Powel is great !

[-Max2-]

CAG 147 wrote:

You don´t know nothing about current world, nothing about dealing with terrorists, nothing about dictatorship.

:roll:

Care to explain ?

[scm77]

How dare you post that nazi-bush propaganda on this site? :roll: :cantbeli: :roll:

[Longbranch]

Ok you Anti Bush people, especially the Europeans......why the hell are you here........to deliberately start flame wars. I'm no fan of Bush but, name one Poitical Leader who's not an Asshole to someone somewhere in their country?
By that reasoning Churchill had no right to an opinion about Hitler rolling into Poland, or Austria and Czechoslovakia. After all, the Germans weren't bothering the British, so why should the British be entitled to an opinion about what Hitler was doing?

If Bush were being an asshole to just Americans, then you might have a point. The main focus for the invasion of Iraq was about illegal chemical and biological weapons. As none of that has been found to be true, the focus then became Hussein's abuses of human rights against Iraqi citizens. Now that reason is moot because the U.S. military is behaving no differently than Hussein did – killing and torturing. The moral high ground is lost by the White House. The only thing separating the White House from Hussein is the total body count of Iraqis killed. Hussein had a 25 year head start, so perhaps that comparison is unfair.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

[front]

""He changed from being the leader of the free world to being a father, a husband and a man,""

Here are a few points for you Jack to bring you up to speed.

1) We don't really care.

2) The majority of US citizens did not vote for him.

3) This sort of story is just the basest propaganda... and you posting it is just laughable.

When Bush starts hugging fatherless Iraqi children in Fallujah then maybe we might tune into his "caring humanity".

cheers

front

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

After reading all this stuff I am glad I live in a country that has a complete disregard for politicians. :)

[Argyll]

Ok you Anti Bush people, especially the Europeans......why the hell are you here........to deliberately start flame wars. I'm no fan of Bush but, name one Poitical Leader who's not an Asshole to someone somewhere in their country?
By that reasoning Churchill had no right to an opinion about Hitler rolling into Poland, or Austria and Czechoslovakia. After all, the Germans weren't bothering the British, so why should the British be entitled to an opinion about what Hitler was doing?

If Bush were being an asshole to just Americans, then you might have a point. The main focus for the invasion of Iraq was about illegal chemical and biological weapons. As none of that has been found to be true, the focus then became Hussein's abuses of human rights against Iraqi citizens. Now that reason is moot because the U.S. military is behaving no differently than Hussein did – killing and torturing. The moral high ground is lost by the White House. The only thing separating the White House from Hussein is the total body count of Iraqis killed. Hussein had a 25 year head start, so perhaps that comparison is unfair.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.


How do you figure that one out?By this reasoning?
Answer the question instead of throwing up isolated case of abuse?The question was an open one and had Zero to do with the war in Iraq.
Is this site called airyourviewsaboutamericanabuseclaims.com?

Just curious as to where you reside?I wonder if your country is without crime and abuse,and a tarnished History?

[Geezah]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Hey, you're a WHO fan!

[Geezah]

2) The majority of US citizens did not vote for him.



How'd you work that one out?

[WanderingNomad]

2) The majority of US citizens did not vote for him.



How'd you work that one out?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election%2C_2000

500.000 more for Gore

[Longbranch]

Answer the question instead of throwing up isolated case of abuse?The question was an open one and had Zero to do with the war in Iraq.
Yes the question was an open one, and my reason for answering was Iraq. This is a military site, but once a military action occurs political analysis is no longer excluded. You may wish to separate Bush from actions in Iraq, but that's not going to happen. It would be like discussing Churchill's political career from 1940-1945, but omitting any mention of WWII. If you wish to restrict the nature of the answer, then the question is not an open one.

As for the body count statement I made, Hussein did not go so far as to bomb and shell Fallujah in order to control his own people. He did it with secret police, but I'm sure the innocent who died in Fallujah were no more willing to accept their death because it came from artillery, gunships and snipers instead of at the hands of Hussein's police.

[Falco]

2) The majority of US citizens did not vote for him.



How'd you work that one out?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election%2C_2000

500.000 more for Gore

The popular vote doesn't count in an election it is the electoral vote tha does. Same thing goes for Canada, it's the number of disstricts that you win that decides if you will become the next prime minister. Not the popular vote.

[Argyll]

Answer the question instead of throwing up isolated case of abuse?The question was an open one and had Zero to do with the war in Iraq.
Yes the question was an open one, and my reason for answering was Iraq. This is a military site, but once a military action occurs political analysis is no longer excluded. You may wish to separate Bush from actions in Iraq, but that's not going to happen. It would be like discussing Churchill's political career from 1940-1945, but omitting any mention of WWII. If you wish to restrict the nature of the answer, then the question is not an open one.

As for the body count statement I made, Hussein did not go so far as to bomb and shell Fallujah in order to control his own people. He did it with secret police, but I'm sure the innocent who died in Fallujah were no more willing to accept their death because it came from artillery, gunships and snipers instead of at the hands of Hussein's police.

You're seriously ****ting me right?Have you NEVER heard of Halabja?
You never read the accounts of the attacks on the Kurdish villages with WMD? :cantbeli: Just to control his own people?

You never read the accounts of his oppresion of the Shai Marsh Arabs in the South,by draining the Marshes and then shelling them?just to control his own people? :cantbeli:

The residents of Fallujah were given weeks to leave,I was there in Iraq when they were leaving,they were given the chance to lay down their heavy weaonry weeks before ,did they do this?
Innocents died ......for sure,Innocents die in every war,and Nothing can change that.

And again you never answered the question?
What made you come to a site called Militaryphotos.net.?

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http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/06/loc_moment06.html

Bush pauses to comfort teen
'This girl lost her mom in the World Trade Center on 9-11'

By Kristina Goetz
The Cincinnati Enquirer


During his visit to the Golden Lamb Inn in Lebanon, President Bush stops to hug Ashley Faulkner, who lost her mom in the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/06/hug.jpg
Photo by Lynn Faulkner

In a moment largely unnoticed by the throngs of people in Lebanon waiting for autographs from the president of the United States, George W. Bush stopped to hold a teenager's head close to his heart.

Lynn Faulkner, his daughter, Ashley, and their neighbor, Linda Prince, eagerly waited to shake the president's hand Tuesday at the Golden Lamb Inn. He worked the line at a steady campaign pace, smiling, nodding and signing autographs until Prince spoke:

"This girl lost her mom in the World Trade Center on 9-11."

Bush stopped and turned back.

"He changed from being the leader of the free world to being a father, a husband and a man," Faulkner said. "He looked right at her and said, 'How are you doing?' He reached out with his hand and pulled her into his chest."

Faulkner snapped one frame with his camera.

"I could hear her say, 'I'm OK,' " he said. "That's more emotion than she has shown in 21/2 years. Then he said, 'I can see you have a father who loves you very much.' "

"And I said, 'I do, Mr. President, but I miss her mother every day.' It was a special moment."

Special for Lynn Faulkner because the Golden Lamb was the place he and his wife, Wendy Faulkner, celebrated their anniversary every year until she died in the south tower of the World Trade Center, where she had traveled for business.

The day was also special for Ashley, a 15-year-old Mason High School student, because the visit was reminiscent of a trip she took four years ago with her mother and Prince. They spent all afternoon in the rain waiting to see Bush on the campaign trail. Ashley remembers holding her mother's hand, eating Triscuits she packed and bringing along a book in case she got bored.

But this time was different. She understood what the president was saying, and she got close enough to see him face to face.

"The way he was holding me, with my head against his chest, it felt like he was trying to protect me," Ashley said. "I thought, 'Here is the most powerful guy in the world, and he wants to make sure I'm safe.' I definitely had a couple of tears in my eyes, which is pretty unusual for me."

The photo has been circulating across the country, Faulkner said. Relatives have passed it on to friends, bosses and acquaintances. As they tell the story, they also share in Wendy Faulkner's legacy, which her family continues through the Wendy Faulkner Memorial Children's Foundation.

"I'm a pretty cynical and jaded guy at this point in my life," Faulkner said of the moment with the president. "But this was the real deal. I was really impressed. It was genuine and from the heart."

the picture pro-bush people didn't want you to see....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40120000/jpg/_40120905_iraq_pow_abuse123_ap.jpg


hmmm, which one is the bigger deal? :P

[2Sheds_Jackson]

The main focus for the invasion of Iraq was about illegal chemical and biological weapons. As none of that has been found to be true, the focus then became Hussein's abuses of human rights against Iraqi citizens.


Heh, nice try, but some of us have paid attention.

There is no question that Iraq had WMD. By Iraq's own admission and documentation, they had tens of thousands of tons of WMD. What did they gas the Kurds and Iranians with, hair spray?

By Iraq (and the UN's) own numbers there were more than 1000 tons of missing WMD that Iraq would not account for. This is not in dispute. After they refused to account for the weapons they admitted they had (in violation of UN resolutions), they kicked out the UN inspectors. Then, when violence was threatened, they let them back in, but restricted access to suspected sites.

The "split" between the US coalition & the rest of the UN occurred because much of the UN, including many on the security council itself were "on the take" and were pocketing billions of $$ from the UN's corrupt "oil-for-food" program.

So there was no chance of the UN taking action, since, rather than being a solution, they were instead part of the problem. And French Foreign Minister Dominick de Villepin lying to Colin Powell over resolution 1441 was a high mark in international cooperation.

BTW, the UN has refused to release any documentation relating to the program, and has forbidden anyone involved with the program from releasing information.

[Longbranch]

I have heard of the shellings in Halabja, and of Hussein's oppressions in the south. I said Hussein never shelled Fallujah, essentially a part of his power base. The U.S. is not targeting Kurdish and Shai Marsh minorities, they're targeting everyone equally. Odd that when you describe Hussein as doing these things its "oppression", but when the U.S. army does it "they were given the chance to lay down their weapons." How magnanomous that they had a chance to surrender before being shelled, which obviously alleviates the U.S. Army of using "oppression" as a means of control.


Innocents die in every war,and Nothing can change that.
Yes, people can change that. Soldiers can stop targeting civilians as a tactic to force combatants to surrender. They just choose not to change.

I come here because I like military hardware. Occasionally I disagree on how governments choose to use it, and why they use it.

[mustamato]

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/06/hug.jpg

Great that he looks at the camera [the voters] and not her :cantbeli:

[Mamon]

Let me lay it down from the point of view of a person here to see military related media. This site has a noble intention but it's filled with such manuer-eating people that every thread I try to read some decent information and debate about is ruined by pre-pubescent squabbling. It's like trying to trying to find something useful in a field of ****. What pisses me off the most is people who deliberately start threads knowing fully well that they're just going to start a flame war. Some people try to post something decent and rather than discussing it, some forum regulars (ie.assholes) just throw mud and turns into a muckfest. Do these people get off with it? Everyone knows who I'm talking about. I'm disgusted.

[HELEX]

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/06/hug.jpg

Great that he looks at the camera [the voters] and not her :cantbeli:

Didnt notice that before, he looks exactely in the Camera. You have a good eye. p-)

[Argyll]

I have heard of the shellings in Halabja, and of Hussein's oppressions in the south. I said Hussein never shelled Fallujah, essentially a part of his power base. The U.S. is not targeting Kurdish and Shai Marsh minorities, they're targeting everyone equally. Odd that when you describe Hussein as doing these things its "oppression", but when the U.S. army does it "they were given the chance to lay down their weapons." How magnanomous that they had a chance to surrender before being shelled, which obviously alleviates the U.S. Army of using "oppression" as a means of control.


Innocents die in every war,and Nothing can change that.
Yes, people can change that. Soldiers can stop targeting civilians as a tactic to force combatants to surrender. They just choose not to change.

I come here because I like military hardware. Occasionally I disagree on how governments choose to use it, and why they use it.

So you came here and saw the chance to start stirring ****e like a few others around here,so you jumped on the badwagon and joined in ?Instead of perhaps asking opinions and asking for links etc.

So glad you heard about the shelling of the Kurds,so I'm guessing you are less than 20 years old and are a student,because the Shelling and the use of WMD by Saddam is not just something you "heard "about,it's a major topic in modern warfare,something that even the wonderfull UN condemned,perhaps you need to educate yourself a hell of a lot more when you even try to compare the actions of the Coalition to those of Saddam Hussein,as it's pretty obvious you're clueless.
The Balkans war caused more civilian deaths at the hands of the Serbs Croats and Muslims..........than the Coalition has done in Iraq?
More civilian lives have been lost in African countries through insurgents and wars......leaving the cas figs caused by the Coalition during the Iraq war.
And the Nazi's themselves were responsible for more than 6 million homicides during WW2............do me a favour Longbeach start taking history lessons,as you're clearly showing your Anti American side,you have clearly NEVER researched the Mass graves orchestrated by Saddm and his party...............do so before you start talking ****e here!

[Geezah]

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/05/06/hug.jpg

Great that he looks at the camera [the voters] and not her :cantbeli:

Didnt notice that before, he looks exactely in the Camera. You have a good eye. p-)

If you reread the first post you will see it was the Father that took the photo,

The photo has been circulating across the country, Faulkner said. Relatives have passed it on to friends, bosses and acquaintances.

Amazing....your just like the Liberal press over here, twisting things so it fits inside your own agenda!

[rokus2595]

When Bush starts hugging fatherless Iraqi children in Fallujah then maybe we might tune into his "caring humanity".



I couldn't have said it better :D

[Beowulf]

alright this thread is serving little purpose but to allow flaming.

i'm going to lock it.