Hummer-look other countries vehicles

[mannelig]

Ok, there are some vehicles, somebody could think, that this is H1, but that`s wrong. Let`s see:

China - DongFeng EQ2050
http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/dong_feng_hummer.jpg

Spain - URO
http://urovesa.com/img/Vamtac_10_1.jpg

Sweden - Iveco/Alvis MLV
http://galeria.vezess.hu/files/419/004/000/4419/4419_42176_500x300.jpg

Denmark - Mowag Eagle
http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/mowag/eagle_IV.jpg

Russia - Gaz Tigr
http://www.avtorinok.ru/photo/GAZ_2975_Tigr_pic_29338.jpg

Russia - Combat-T98
http://t98.ru/uploads/gallery/main/combat_uni_2005/1174291328_5_9.jpg



maybe even Ukraine - Vepr
http://englishrussia.com/images/vepr/3.jpg

Italia - Lamborghini
http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Eatc/lm002.jpg

France - Renault
http://trucks.autoreview.ru/archive/2006/06/army/750/img9.jpg

[maloryII]

Meh... they all look very similar. So do most military vehicles in their respective classes.

Low profile and center of gravity, wide wheelbase, and high ground clearance... seems to me like a common design philosophy/paradigm for any sort of personnel carrier.

I don't know if you're insinuating that these vehicles are all Humvee "copies". If you are, I'd have to disagree. If you're not, nice pics.

[mannelig]

Some of them a copies, some of them - not. When i searched them, sometimes was info like "build on humvee base". But that thread is for those, who thinks, that hummer is the best :) and just for fun :)

[Ironsight06]

Mowag Eagle = Hummer chassis.
EQ2050 = License built Hummer (even with Hummer parts).

[muttbutt]

Mowag Eagle = Hummer chassis.

Nope, the Eagle IV (pictured) is based on the higher capacity/durability Duro chassis

[Ironsight06]

Nope, the Eagle IV (pictured) is based on the higher capacity/durability Duro chassis
Earlier version used to be based on the Hummer chassis.

[muttbutt]

Earlier version used to be based on the Hummer chassis.
Indeed they were, I was just commenting on the posted photop-)

[mannelig]

Earlier version used to be based on the Hummer chassis.

Thats true - http://www.armyvehicles.dk/mowageagle.htm

[Susumu]

judging by the looks I like the DongFeng EQ2050 most :)
and the renault is ugly as hell.

[He219]

Clearly some of them are not nockoffs; *cough* Lamborghini

I saw this one the other day:
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2039/33066446pr3.jpg
A military jeep pulls a parachute during an Independence Day military parade in Caracas, Venezuela, Thursday, July 05, 2007

[nnnn87]

interesting fotos, thx
what new design can be invented for army though
iirc tigr chassy is from gaz-66, interesting to compare with hammer

[mannelig]

Not Gaz-66, but BTR-80. And as I remember Ukrainian Vepr has gaz-66 chassy.

[ZeroZen]

Copy or not... It shared similarities from the humvee design.

[nnnn87]

And as I remember Ukrainian Vepr has gaz-66 chassy.
dont know about vepr, but barkhan for sure

[AlmaGestoFR]

lmtv LINCE is an italian product! Alvis construct it under licence

[nnnn87]

barkhan
difficult to tell is it hummer-look or not
http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/cavaleria/cav3020.jpg
http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/cavaleria/cav38.jpg
http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/cavaleria/cav3.htm

[mannelig]

Barkhan is not in serial production, so I decided not to include him :)

There is also one Gaz for army, but I don`t remember model index. :(

[nnnn87]

uaz prototypes
http://www.kommersant.ru/ISSUES.PHOTO/TEMA/2006/161/tema_61_002-3.jpg

http://www.kommersant.ru/ISSUES.PHOTO/TEMA/2006/161/tema_61_002-2.jpg

[nnnn87]

ukrainian vepr

http://www.from-ua.com/images/articles/img32377_vepr2.jpg

[Ironsight06]

I saw this one the other day:
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2039/33066446pr3.jpg
Cenareca Tiuna homemade in Venezuela. Pretty cool looking vehicle IMO.

[mannelig]

This is GAZ for army (Tigr is for MVD)
http://autoreview.ru/upload/iblock/941/tiger.jpg

[nnnn87]

thx for clarification

why all armies are shifting to hummer class as basic car for army instead of uaz(or what is it in the western armies)-class like this
http://www.uazbuka.ru/gallery/img/p02.jpg

arent two cars such class more effective then 1 hummer? (the cost is, i think, in those borders 2 to 1)

[mannelig]

Hummer class is not just a car for personal, it is module vehicle, where you can mount different weaponary.

[dimasorokine]

The Vodnik is in service with the Russian Armed Forces to perform the same tasks as the US Hummer. I don't think the Tigr is in service with the army, just police (not quite sure)...


http://www.jumy.de/suv/gaz/GAZ-39371_Vodnik.jpg
But yeah, both the Vodnik and Tigr are based on a BTR-80 chassis and have outperformed the Hummer in direct comparison tests during trials.

-Dima

[nnnn87]

I don't think the Tigr is in service with the army, just police (not quite sure)...

-Dima
afaik it is used in antiterrorist units. dont know are they army or police though

[MZKT]

Hummer class is not just a car for personal, it is module vehicle, where you can mount different weaponary.

Yes, hummer is multipurpose but it don't really fit any of it's purposes.

For a combat vehicle it's too lightly armored and armed. Better BRDM-2, Dingo-II and other dedicated and standardly armoured combat vehicles.

For a light truck it's too small. GAZ-66 can carry more on rough terrain.

And for personal transport it's too large and uneconomical, smaller vehicles like Mercedes-G, UAZ, or Land Rover are better suited to transport 4 people.

Therefore the Hummer-trend seems really odd

[NimDod]

Israeli Axe
http://www.niftyuploads.com/uploads/e7ad382eb7.jpghttp://www.niftyuploads.com/uploads/56a11dd913.jpg

[Rictor]

I guess it's true what they say: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

[NimDod]

I guess it's true what they say: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

imitation is also a great way to cut the the Development cost. p-)

[dimasorokine]

Yes, hummer is multipurpose but it don't really fit any of it's purposes.

For a combat vehicle it's too lightly armored and armed. Better BRDM-2, Dingo-II and other dedicated and standardly armoured combat vehicles.

For a light truck it's too small. GAZ-66 can carry more on rough terrain.

And for personal transport it's too large and uneconomical, smaller vehicles like Mercedes-G, UAZ, or Land Rover are better suited to transport 4 people.

Therefore the Hummer-trend seems really odd

I think it has a lot to do with the ability of the vehicles. The Tigr can climb 45 degree slopes (!), 20 + inch vertical steps, get up to 140 km/h on the road and 70 + off-road...I like the Gaz-66 (it's my favorate truck), but it simply can't take rough terrain at such high speeds, and the UAZ, Landrover, G-Wagen etc. type of vehicles can't carry 1.5 - 2 tons of cargo or go places where a car like the Tigr can.

-Dima

[chalshus]

The first Lambo, the Cheetah, was developed in 1977, two years before GM launched the M988. The LM002/3/4 were developments from the Cheetah.

"Lamborghini Cheetah was Lamborghini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini)'s first attempt at an off-road vehicle. It was built on contract from Mobility Technology International, which in turn was contracted by the US military (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_United_States) to design and build a new all-terrain vehicle. The basis of the design came from MTI, and was largely a copy of FMC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_Machinery_Corporation)'s XR 311 prototype developed for the military in 1970 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970). This resulted in legal action from FMC against MTI and Lamborghini in 1977 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977) when the Cheetah was presented at the Geneva Auto Show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Auto_Show). The XR 311 and Cheetah could be considered progenitors of the current Hummvee."
From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Cheetah)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Cheetahcover.jpg

[Mjolnir]

I laughed my ass off when i heard US troops blew up a hummer type vehicle in Iraq, turned out to be one of those Lamborghinis belonging to Uday......... Only a couple hundred thousand $$$$$$......

[Target_Aquired]

Sweden dosent have any Iveco MLVs.........

They have the---> http://www.bellum.nu/armoury/BAERG32M.html

[Kilo]

Toyota Mega Cruiser

http://www.megacruiser.com/



http://www.megacruiser.com/images/military/army0003.jpg

http://www.megacruiser.com/images/military/army0019.jpg


http://www.megacruiser.com/images/exterior/ext01_640.jpg

http://www.megacruiser.com/images/exterior/ext02_640.jpg

[Evolv5]

Toyota Mega Cruiser
I'm sorry, but name's like these just make me laugh. "It's the new Porsche Super Turbo Extreme 911 Sports Car" . I'd rather have a name like the EQ2050 :)

[Mablod]

Sweden dosent have any Iveco MLVs.........

They have the---> http://www.bellum.nu/armoury/BAERG32M.html

Thats true, the Iveco LMV is used by Italy, Norway and Belgium as I recall. Britain use a similar vehicle based on Iveco design, but made by BAE called MLV(Multirole Light Vehicle?), or was it Panther? My memory is failing me..

[Jorge M.]

Cenareca Tiuna

The versions of the vehicle are Reconnaissance, Anti tank with 106mm canon, Anti tank with the ATGM IMI MAPAT 2, Anti air with SAM RBS-70, Anti air with SAM Mistral, Ambulance, Public order, tow truck, grabage truck, coomunications, civilian version and a few other... Some hundreds have been produced, but less than a thousand. Production will continue until the Venezuelan forces have all the vehicles they need, then maybe some might be sold to otehr countries.


http://www.fav-club.com/flash/fn39/image018.jpg


Public Order version

http://es.geocities.com/paso_de_vencedores/vtiuna/DSCF3682.JPG


Reconnaissance version

http://www.fuerzasmilitares.net/multimedia/fotos_extranjeras/vzla_tiuna/CSyD_tiuna_003.JPG


Anti tank 106mm canon


http://i79.imagethrust.com/i/1217442/tiunaanticarro106mm.jpg


More recon versions

http://i80.imagethrust.com/i/1217441/tiuna.jpg
Gay civilian Version?? rofl

http://www.motorpasion.com/images/Tiuna_civil_02.jpg

[nnnn87]

Anti tank 106mm canon

nice mod...

[Jorge M.]

nice mod...

I guess the idea comes from the M151 MUTT... they put those 106mm on the jeeps and now that the Mutt is not in service anymore the Tiuna got some of those.

I wonder if Cenareca has worked on armored versions of the Tiuna, I've seen some versions that look somewhat a little bit armored, but still most of the versions are based on speed over armor. After looking at what happened to the Humvees in Iraq armored versions are a must.

[mannelig]

To compare these off-roaders needs smth like Paris-Dakar :) Would be very interesting :)

[nnnn87]

To compare these off-roaders needs smth like Paris-Dakar :) Would be very interesting :)
yeah
check this thread about uaz
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115697
will be interesting to find hummer vs river clip

[mannelig]

yeah
check this thread about uaz
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115697
will be interesting to find hummer vs river clip

I`ve already seen it. I think humvee can do the same, but it costs too much :)

[Messiah UKF]

Thats true, the Iveco LMV is used by Italy, Norway and Belgium as I recall. Britain use a similar vehicle based on Iveco design, but made by BAE called MLV(Multirole Light Vehicle?), or was it Panther? My memory is failing me..

Panther and/or (F)CLV - (Future) command and liason vehicle.

[XTC]

Mowag is a swiss company, not danish (even though they buy all their products :))

The EAGLE IV is based on the DURO III chassis.
http://www.mowag.ch/Photos/Img_EIV_004.jpg

The previous models are based on the Hummer chassis
http://img195.echo.cx/img195/1973/atmleagle12yb.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6820/277904514kd.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3470/eagle0wk.jpg

[dimasorokine]

Toyota Mega Cruiser

http://www.megacruiser.com/



http://www.megacruiser.com/images/military/army0003.jpg



Notice that this "MegaCruiser" doesn't have the giant suspension arms hanging down like the Hummer = more ground clearence. I Would love to se a head to head test.

-Dima

[Jorge M.]

Hey I found a new Tiuna Pic. First time I see this version.

http://static.flickr.com/202/463182707_e0915149d3.jpg

I wonder if theres a hole on the roof for a gunner... the reconnaissance version has a .50 cal on the roof and two 7.62 FN Mag on the back looking to the sides, this version cant be weaponless! :|

[nnnn87]

looks very nice, i like it even more then hummer (except doors)

[Jorge M.]

I just read that 300 Tiunas have been made fo the military and another 100 for the civilian sector (for state police and things like that). I also read that Kuwait showed some interest in the vehicle but since all production was dedicated to supply vehicles for the Ve. forces no deal was made... it seems that some other South American countries are showing some interest in the vehicle too.

[EIREGOBRACH]

I think you cannot beat the original U.S. Military HUMMVEE {HMMVW}! The Hummer series - the 'H1, H2 & H3/H3X' themselves look much better! The rest just look like poor imitations - copies - replicas - knock-offs! What ever you might call them! That is my own personal preference. Do ye agree or disagree?

[mannelig]

I think you cannot beat the original U.S. Military Hummer. The rest just look like poor imitations - copies - replicas - knock-offs! What ever you might call them! Do ye agree?
No.:lol:
HMMVW (spelling?) itself is toooo old model. From 1970s or 80s?

[chulo_allen]

I think you cannot beat the original U.S. Military Hummer. The rest just look like poor imitations - copies - replicas - knock-offs! What ever you might call them! Do ye agree?
nope i dont agree with you at all ..

[Sirpad]

Cenareca Tiuna

The versions of the vehicle are Reconnaissance, Anti tank with 106mm canon, Anti tank with the ATGM IMI MAPAT 2, Anti air with SAM RBS-70, Anti air with SAM Mistral, Ambulance, Public order, tow truck, grabage truck, coomunications, civilian version and a few other... Some hundreds have been produced, but less than a thousand. Production will continue until the Venezuelan forces have all the vehicles they need, then maybe some might be sold to otehr countries.

Public Order version
http://es.geocities.com/paso_de_vencedores/vtiuna/DSCF3682.JPG

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4997/p3090102nl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
hmmm, interesting...

[chalshus]

I think you cannot beat the original U.S. Military HUMMVEE {HMMVW}! The Hummer series - the 'H1, H2 & H3/H3X' themselves look much better! The rest just look like poor imitations - copies - replicas - knock-offs! What ever you might call them! That is my own personal preference. Do ye agree or disagree?


The M998 HUMMWV isnt the original. The Lambo is. ;)
But the M998 looks better. :)

[sp2c]

as far as looks go, Fennek is the king

http://www.boekje-pienter.nl/images/fennek-uruzgan.jpg

completely different type of vehicle though but I just like posting that picture :D

[Frost]

Notice that this "MegaCruiser" doesn't have the giant suspension arms hanging down like the Hummer = more ground clearence. I Would love to se a head to head test.

-Dima

I´d love to see a head to head durability test on very rough terrain. The 'giant' suspensien bars are so big and strong for a reason. The suspension on this japanese vehicle looks a bit fragile.

@SP2C
like you said yourself it's a completely different type of vehicle, but it's one of the finest recon vehicles in the world.

[Susumu]

I´d love to see a head to head durability test on very rough terrain. The 'giant' suspensien bars are so big and strong for a reason. The suspension on this japanese vehicle looks a bit fragile.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=24c_1187997334 ;)

[chalshus]

Doesnt work...

[chalshus]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TlOvVV4uwN0

[Eldar]

Cenareca Tiuna

Gay civilian Version?? rofl

http://www.motorpasion.com/images/Tiuna_civil_02.jpg

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[Pirulo2003]

Argentina-Brasil "Gaucho"

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/imagen/06/525305.jpg
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/imagen/06/525304.jpg
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/imagen/06/525303.jpg
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/imagen/06/525306.jpg

[Satellite Weapon]

I guess it's true what they say: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.


very true :)