Req: Standard kit for Marine Snipers

[tf_echelon]

What is the standard load out for USMC scout/snipers in Desert terrain? What kind of webbing or carrier (if used at all), would they use if a guillie was required?
Or would they use one at all? Any info would be greatly appreciated




thanks,
Tf

[schwarz]

Go back to your hole airsofter. You dont want another massacre like yesterday, do you?

[scrybe]

^^ Beat me to it.

[Hellfish]

I smell blood...

[California Joe]

I smell stupidity. All over the f*cking place.

1. If you play airsoft and want to do some sort of recreation of a real Marine sniper, ask it in the Marine loadout thread in the airsoft forum. Actually, that's probably the only reason I can think of that you'd ask that so get back in your cage.

2. I'm really starting to f*cking hate seeing the term "loadout" Unless it involves, me, Jenna Jameson and whipped cream.

3. The rest of you assclowns should think about finding a new hobby soon to replace the "lets kick the sh*t out of airsofters" one. It's getting tedious like kicking blind, retarded, hairless puppies. Sure it's fun and all but every f*cking thread has turned into it and hood ain't cancelling the airsoft section anytime soon.

[tf_echelon]

OR... maybe im not an airsofter and im just curious.

way to jump to conclusions guys.

cant we all just play nice?

and FYI... i totally agree with you guys when it comes to gear whore airsofters.

[MEGR]

Hey dude, check this link out: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60594&highlight=Snipers

It has a bunch of Marine Sniper photos in it (not sure which page) which should give you a good idea of what they're currently using.

[tf_echelon]

thanks MEGR.

[Sabre]

2. I'm really starting to f*cking hate seeing the term "loadout" Unless it involves, me, Jenna Jameson and whipped cream.

Christ, tell me about it. It's possibly one of the most annoying turn of phrase on this site.

If I could say one thing to these kids on here it would be to get into their heads that war/combat is not a videogame. You don't press start and drop in with 'x' magazines for 'primary' and 'secondary' weapons. Any soldiers kit is a mix of personal (comfort and administration) equipment, personal weapon(s) and ammunition, communications equipment, med equipment and other patrol/task kit that is required. What they take on a job is dependant on what they have to do, where they are going, how they are getting there, how long it will (might) take, how they are getting back, what else they might have to do as a consequence of success/failure/changing circumstances etc etc. There is no single....*cringe*.... 'loadout' for anyone. Of course, there are SOP kitlists for different roles, but like everything in the military, once things start rolling, everything changes and typically you will be given more and more to turn that house on your back from a bungalow into a two storey detached family property.

These 'loadout' questions are really beginning to annoy me now. I think the only reason I've been so polite is that I've been placated by watching Lisa Rogers in a denim catsuit, messing about with engines....oh the joy that is Scrapheap Challenge...

(I believe you Americans would know it as 'Junkyard Wars', or something equally as crass...completely destroyed the spirit of it, with shouty presenters and canned enthusiasm....typical....:roll: )

[CPLHUNTER]

I was waiting for someone to scream OPSEC

[Adam Wilhelm]

I was waiting for someone to scream OPSEC

[Middle east voice] Yeeez... i weent to kknow what are the American devils... soldiers i mean!! tactic and weapon in Iraq. Most improtand IED. Please show pics and drawings.
[/Middel east voice]

[Jsjoholm]

Sabre, this is without a doubt the best post I have seen on MP.net in quite some time. Well said and put!


Christ, tell me about it. It's possibly one of the most annoying turn of phrase on this site.

If I could say one thing to these kids on here it would be to get into their heads that war/combat is not a videogame. You don't press start and drop in with 'x' magazines for 'primary' and 'secondary' weapons. Any soldiers kit is a mix of personal (comfort and administration) equipment, personal weapon(s) and ammunition, communications equipment, med equipment and other patrol/task kit that is required. What they take on a job is dependant on what they have to do, where they are going, how they are getting there, how long it will (might) take, how they are getting back, what else they might have to do as a consequence of success/failure/changing circumstances etc etc. There is no single....*cringe*.... 'loadout' for anyone. Of course, there are SOP kitlists for different roles, but like everything in the military, once things start rolling, everything changes and typically you will be given more and more to turn that house on your back from a bungalow into a two storey detached family property.

These 'loadout' questions are really beginning to annoy me now. I think the only reason I've been so polite is that I've been placated by watching Lisa Rogers in a denim catsuit, messing about with engines....oh the joy that is Scrapheap Challenge...

(I believe you Americans would know it as 'Junkyard Wars', or something equally as crass...completely destroyed the spirit of it, with shouty presenters and canned enthusiasm....typical....:roll: )

[Sabre]

Sabre, this is without a doubt the best post I have seen on MP.net in quite some time. Well said and put!

Thanks, but I couldn't have done it without the lovely Lisa. Just to be topical, here she is making the rather boring subject of alternative fuels rather more interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ullhhXs8d4Y

This one is probably NSFW, though nothing too naughty....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxLCcpM3GVs

[Baboonass]

I get PM's of these types of questions almost daily.

I'm over it.


If you really have a need to know, you are in the biz and should already know.

If you have to ask, espcially on a public website, you don't have a need to know.

[~center~]

I get PM's of these types of questions almost daily.

I'm over it.


If you really have a need to know, you are in the biz and should already know.

If you have to ask, espcially on a public website, you don't have a need to know.

C'mon now! What if I REALLY want to know but am so high-speed I know too much and forgot what it is I need to know?! Then what?!!!

BTW, I'm still working on that map for you. Should be ready by the weeks end.

[Sabre]

C'mon now! What if I REALLY want to know but am so high-speed I know too much and forgot what it is I need to know?! Then what?!!!

Then you just go with what you think you know, and if anyone pulls you up on it ask them why they need to know why you were doing whatever it was you thought you ought to do...

...clear? :)

[Sand Man]

There is no single....*cringe*.... 'loadout' for anyone. ....

LOL When I read that line Jim Carrey came to mind in any of his zany movies. :D

Great post, by the way.

[Lions2012]

Thanks, but I couldn't have done it without the lovely Lisa. Just to be topical, here she is making the rather boring subject of alternative fuels rather more interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ullhhXs8d4Y

This one is probably NSFW, though nothing too naughty....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxLCcpM3GVs


YAHTZEE! And our friends across the pond come through again!

[wildheart]

i've always found mp.net a handy source for military related info, everything from history to findng a nice hard wearing pair of surplus boots for work- but sad to say it's been ''spoiled'' of late by to many 'kids' and 'newbies' who cant be bothered to 'know there place' or even read the rules not to mention 'regulars' who should frankly know better (as California Joe pointed out)

CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG :)

just my '2 cents' as even i'm getting fed up of it :roll:

{drunken winge ends}

[Remington Rand]

Christ, tell me about it. It's possibly one of the most annoying turn of phrase on this site.

If I could say one thing to these kids on here it would be to get into their heads that war/combat is not a videogame. You don't press start and drop in with 'x' magazines for 'primary' and 'secondary' weapons. Any soldiers kit is a mix of personal (comfort and administration) equipment, personal weapon(s) and ammunition, communications equipment, med equipment and other patrol/task kit that is required. What they take on a job is dependant on what they have to do, where they are going, how they are getting there, how long it will (might) take, how they are getting back, what else they might have to do as a consequence of success/failure/changing circumstances etc etc. There is no single....*cringe*.... 'loadout' for anyone. Of course, there are SOP kitlists for different roles, but like everything in the military, once things start rolling, everything changes and typically you will be given more and more to turn that house on your back from a bungalow into a two storey detached family property.

These 'loadout' questions are really beginning to annoy me now. I think the only reason I've been so polite is that I've been placated by watching Lisa Rogers in a denim catsuit, messing about with engines....oh the joy that is Scrapheap Challenge...

(I believe you Americans would know it as 'Junkyard Wars', or something equally as crass...completely destroyed the spirit of it, with shouty presenters and canned enthusiasm....typical....:roll: )

Is the term "loadout" just for airsoft outfitting? I typically skip a forum if it uses that term assuming it is a bunch of guys discussing how to speng $1000 trying to recreate what a soldier looks like, though with much more expensive gear. I guess to each their own...but I dont get the airsoft thing. Whats the big deal? There are some great threads on this site...and then there are the "loadout" threads. RR

[The Punisher]

Is the term "loadout" just for airsoft outfitting? I typically skip a forum if it uses that term assuming it is a bunch of guys discussing how to speng $1000 trying to recreate what a soldier looks like, though with much more expensive gear. I guess to each their own...but I dont get the airsoft thing. Whats the big deal? There are some great threads on this site...and then there are the "loadout" threads. RR
First of all, you have an awesome avatar.

The thing with airsoft "loadouts" (and California Joe, I liked your comment about Jenna Jameson and whipped cream, lol) is that it increases the realism of the game. I'm not a paintball player, but whenever I talk to people who play paintball, they always talk about the rush and intensity of the game, especially speedball. In airsoft- rather, the milsim part of it- a lot of the game focuses on realism. Many people want to combine a shooting game with reenacting, so it feels like being on 24, or in Black Hawk Down, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, etc. Personally, I only use gear that I need and is practical, since I do not have much extra money for airsofting. If I did, I'm sure I would want a Jack Bauer setup or something. Also, much of the gear is practical to have for airsoft, and for the same reason military forces use it. Camouflage clothing is important in airsoft for the same reasons it is in the military. When you play with only 30 round "real capacity" mags, it's great to have the same style gear designed for people who have the same type of weapon and need to carry the same amount of mags.

[BrianT]

^start playing airsoft with 100lbs of gear on. You'll probably tire of the realism factor of having a real 'loadout'

I get PM's of these types of questions almost daily.

I'm over it.


If you really have a need to know, you are in the biz and should already know.

If you have to ask, espcially on a public website, you don't have a need to know.
Damn must suck being a SEAL. All the kiddies like orgasm if you even mention the word/acronym....that's not why you guys always gel your hair, is it?

[Sabre]

Is the term "loadout" just for airsoft outfitting? I typically skip a forum if it uses that term assuming it is a bunch of guys discussing how to speng $1000 trying to recreate what a soldier looks like, though with much more expensive gear. I guess to each their own...but I dont get the airsoft thing. Whats the big deal? There are some great threads on this site...and then there are the "loadout" threads. RR

:lol:

Good idea mate. 'Loadout' just annoys me on so many levels. It gives me mental images of airsofters in their version of the bat cave, choosing what to wear for each game.

The truth is (and all of us know this) that there are actual soldiers who get issued the kit and still don't look like soldiers! No offense to any clerks here, you do a grand job, but you can ping them a mile off! That's why it amuses me that these guys spend huge amounts of money on kit and yet they still look like 'walts'.

But then, whatever floats your boat. It's better than snorting or pissing your money away. Reminds me in a way of all young toms (myself included) who buy all the 'gucci', 'ally' kit when they get in, only to discover that it's a waste of space. I've got a couple bin bags full of kit that I'll never use again, having thought it was a top bit of kit at the time.....live and learn eh? :)


^start playing airsoft with 100lbs of gear on. You'll probably tire of the realism factor of having a real 'loadout'


Exactly. Fill your rigs with kevlar and ceramic plates instead of foam, use metal mags with real rounds (or dummy actually...better make it dummy!!), carry a stupidly large radio, plus batteries, plus a spare radio just in case and stick a couple lead pipes in your bergen to replicate mortar rounds and then see how fun it is.

Your "loadout" will soon become "this f***ing pile of c***ing b*ll*cks and useless f***ing cr*p that I have to f***ing well shift about!!!!" :lol:

[LRPV]

^^^

...not only that....but when the *loadout* gets too heavy you can break the game for 'time-out'.p-)

[Hollis]

Ok std load out,

1) case of ice cold beer

2) hot pizza with the works

3) latest edition of Naked bunnies magazine.

4) Lounge chair

5) Umbrella

6) really cool pair of sun glasses.

7).. I'll let you guys add from here. Already the ruck is to heavy.

[Jippo]

Ok std load out,
...

7)... Already the ruck is to heavy.


Thus an ATV to carry the beer:

http://www.europeatv.com/?gclid=COTx0ozWv40CFQqIlAodTTtGFQ

Better to choose a model with cigarette lighter so you can bring one of those handy portable 12V fridges along.

[Sabre]

8) Loose fit Hawaiian shorts and shirt

9) Flip flops

10) Comedy hat (either panama, straw or sombrero)

11) Radio with tunes of your own choice

12) Garden hose with trigger nozzle, to shoo away pesky kids and animals

[California Joe]

You guys are welcome in my yard anytime.

[Sabre]

As long as you bring the sausages.....ooh er! p-)

[Hollis]

You guys are welcome in my yard anytime.



Bar B at CJ's........................

[Mr. JOSHUA]

I'll sneak in just to annoy him.

[martinexsquaddie]

usually they carry something long and heavy that goes bang
something that allows them to see things very far away
and quite a few small brass things that go bang when put in the long heavy thing

[EsoognomEhT]

Having just seen this topic via a roundabout way, Sabre have you ever been to Bramley? Miss Rogers & the one with the square head were on site when we were there

[ZULU9niner]

LOL. Loadout equals heavy BAG of SH*T that you have run around with till someone tells you your done!

[Sloppy Joe2]

only noobs need loadouts, i use mind bullets and my force-field.

[DnA]

only noobs need loadouts, i use mind bullets and my force-field.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5518/withyourmind5iyqu3.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=withyourmind5iyqu3.jpg)

[digrar]

Edited loadout for kit, now my eyes don't hurt so much. :|