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helomech
07-10-2007, 10:29 AM
By ANTONIO OLIVEIRA, Associated Press Writer Mon Jul 9, 1:47 PM ET


PARIS - Their city is the world's No. 1 tourist destination, yet Parisians sometimes seem downright grumpy about it.
On Monday, city officials set out to change that, urging cab drivers to smile and telling waiters to try out their English.
Tourists, too, were given tips like "try out French products" instead of heading to the first Starbucks in search of friendly service.
As Mayor Bertrand Delanoe launched the first Paris Tourist Day on the sprawling Trocadero Plaza across the Seine from the Eiffel Tower, the response from passers-by was predictable: Parisians said their rude reputation was exaggerated. Visitors disagreed.
Paul Roll, director of the Paris Tourism Office, conceded that the French capital has a "rather unfriendly" image but defended his compatriots.
"French citizens are shy when they need to speak in a foreign language. They have a very strong accent, which makes it difficult to understand," he said.
He said the campaign was aimed at making Parisians understand how important tourists are to their city's economic growth, and to help them improve their habits when dealing with foreigners. A full 12 percent of jobs in Paris are directly connected to tourism, Roll said.
"To be frank," said Brazilian tourist Joana D'Arc de Almeida, "I think Paris needs to learn a lot about how to deal with tourists, because that's what brings money to the city. It looks like they have so much money from it already that they don't care about people anymore."
She said she's determined, regardless, to adapt to the "French way of doing things."
Tour guide Nicole Rimbaud insisted her fellow Parisians' "habits are really changing."
"If (visitors) make an effort and try to explain to Parisians that they don't speak French instead of speaking English right away, (French) people can be very warm, actually," she said.
Cab driver Mustafah Hammoum welcomed the friendliness campaign — but said in general his colleagues are "quite nice."
"We do our best," he said.
"What could we improve? Well, traffic, that's for sure. And English skills, why not. There are lots of cab drivers who don't speak that language. It's a real problem when people can't understand each other," he said.
Many Parisian cab drivers aren't native French speakers, either, adding to the challenges for passengers.
Bystanders at the Trocadero event were offered Parisian water, orange juice and brochures with a "Charter for the Parisian and Visitor."
"I will take the time to give information to visitors. I will make use of my foreign language skills to reply to them in their language," reads one item of advice to Parisians.

To tourists, the brochure says, "I will experience the Parisian lifestyle" and "I will take advantage of my stay to try French products."
It's not the first time the city has sought to clean up its manners, nor the last. While Monday's event was a one-day affair, city officials are also offering long-term friendliness projects.
"Ambassadors of Welcome" kiosks went up for the summer in five strategic tourist sites, like near Notre Dame Cathedral and Place de la Bastille.
In any case, Roll notes, despite tourists' fears of surly Parisian service, when they get here they usually change their minds. He said 97 percent of those who visit say they want to come back. Paris saw 15.3 million visitors in 2006 from foreign countries and elsewhere in France, according to the Paris region tourist bureau.


Discuss amongst yourselves...........:-P

Tyler Durden 95
07-10-2007, 10:31 AM
Smile they will smile back !

ex1cdo
07-10-2007, 10:38 AM
I love Paris. In August. When all the Parisians are out of the city on vacation...

Rictor
07-10-2007, 11:06 AM
So the Parisians should make nice for the hordes of tourists who come to gawk at their city and, by their presence, ruin the very (alleged) beauty which they've come to see?

I think the case can be made that there is a such a thing as too much tourism. Paris and Venice especially suffer from this. Certain people, and I'm not saying everyone, expect to be treated as if though they were on an amusement ride, as if the city were there for their benefit and that citizens did not have their own lives to live.

I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't want a never-ending stream of wide-eyed tourists coming into my home, taking stupid photos of themselves in front of my furniture and being more-or-less obnoxious. Despite the money they bring in, it would get very tiring very quickly.

Sharp
07-10-2007, 11:10 AM
Parisians thinks they are the " center " of the world, and particulary of this country (France).

You don't need to be a foreigner to know it, just have to speak a bit with them.

Atlantic Friend
07-10-2007, 11:29 AM
Paul Roll, director of the Paris Tourism Office, conceded that the French capital has a "rather unfriendly" image but defended his compatriots.

Thanks Paul for trying to spread the guilt to us country bumpkins, but no thanks !

Parisians are the scourge of this country, and what's truly amazing is the ability of this city to take perfectly normal provincials and turn them into zombies. And yes, I mean YOU, Paul Roll, wherever you are, and assuming it's your real name !

~Berdan
07-10-2007, 12:49 PM
Thanks Paul for trying to spread the guilt to us country bumpkins, but no thanks !

Parisians are the scourge of this country, and what's truly amazing is the ability of this city to take perfectly normal provincials and turn them into zombies. And yes, I mean YOU, Paul Roll, wherever you are, and assuming it's your real name !

What does that mean?
I happen to agree with this folk.With ALL do respect to enourmous quantities of tourists in Paris,it wouldn't kill Parisians to be a little more nice.I mean,yes,English is not French national language,but damnit,I know you know it,you know I know you know it,please don't make funny faces and pretend you have no freeking idea what I've said.
The cab drivers are nuts,the waiters are nuts(and lazy),ou la la,tourism is very profiting business,and I think there is no such thing as "too many" of it.It brings ****load of money,and you might just consider it a bit.

Laworkerbee
07-10-2007, 01:02 PM
People in Paris were great to me over New Years and I have no complaints except for maybe the Arab's there but they seemed to hate everyone, even more so the French.

Chulo
07-10-2007, 01:03 PM
i have been to paris 3 times, and each was worse than the last, u speak in english to them and they turn snobish because u didnt take the effort to learn their language, you try to speak to them in french and they become insulted because u try to speak to them in french..
I love the countryside and other cities though, its only paris that i dont like.

Mailman
07-10-2007, 05:52 PM
Fecks sake, Paris and Parisians are like any other city and its inhabitants. You find arseholes in all of them.

Personally, I love Paris and its people. Its friendly, open, inviting and a fun place to be but probably helps Im not English or American :)

Regards

Mailman

Laworkerbee
07-10-2007, 06:13 PM
They like American's just not Bush, God how many times did I hear that during my trip!

Sharp
07-10-2007, 08:03 PM
They like American's just not Bush, God how many times did I hear that during my trip!

just remind them who elected Bush p-)

Laworkerbee
07-10-2007, 08:06 PM
just remind them who elected Bush p-)

Obviously not an American who bothered to travel to Paris eh? ;-)

Invisigoth
07-10-2007, 08:46 PM
Don't believe everything people say ;) I've lived in Paris for 4 years now and its an awesome city. You get sued to the Parisians after a while and before long you somewhat become one yourself.

LordTyphus
07-10-2007, 11:49 PM
I hate the Parisians. Their mannerisms are so unFrench, so unmanly. For me, the true France is somewhere in the Contentin peninsula in Lower Normandy, the land of my ancestors. No immigrants, no Arabs, no foreigners. Speaking like a true xenophobic Norman :). France of the Belgae Gauls with a tinge of Scandinavian blood. Vive La Normandie, Vive La France, a mort les Parigos.

Mr Gently Benevolent
07-10-2007, 11:57 PM
I hate the Parisians. Their mannerisms are so unFrench, so unmanly. For me, the true France is somewhere in the Contentin peninsula in Lower Normandy, the land of my ancestors. No immigrants, no Arabs, no foreigners. Speaking like a true xenophobic Norman :). France of the Belgae Gauls with a tinge of scandinavian blood. Vive La Normandie, Vive La France, a mort les Parigos.Is that you SixGun?

LordTyphus
07-11-2007, 12:05 AM
Is that you SixGun?

SixGun? Are you a bacteriologist, Bacillus? I like your name. Garibaldi?

toki
07-11-2007, 12:20 AM
The French who hate Parisians are not different from people of other more or less centralistic countries. The capitals or biggest cities are always different and seen as snobbish and rude. Though Germany is a bit different there, Berlin being a cheaper place to live then most other cities and not so much sticking out as snobbish. And we're not so centralized.

I don't see why Parisians should change. If you don't like it how it is, don't visit. If you just visit a place because of 1 landmark and a bunch of stereotypes (city of love etc.) you fail anyway. It's naive, Paris is not a themepark, but a pretty big city wih all its downsides. I have the feeling anglophonic tourists have a harder time then others though. Never had the personal impression, Parisians being rude. In general it's up to you. If you live in a relateively big city you know that not everybody is welcoming you and you can never change that. And most Europeans have a different way of being friendly then Americans. This super friendly "you're welcome"+ smile, is pretty uneuropean. That's also why sometimes Germans come across as rude to foreigners, especially Americans (from their perspective or reception). Which i heard more then once.

Atlantic Friend
07-11-2007, 06:43 AM
You get sued to the Parisians after a while and before long you somewhat become one yourself.

Yeah, a bit like vampires, actually. ;)

Paris as a city to visit or shop in is great. Paris as a city to live in is Pandemonium on Earth.

Bitogno
07-11-2007, 07:36 AM
Yeah, a bit like vampires, actually. ;)

Paris as a city to visit or shop in is great. Paris as a city to live in is Pandemonium on Earth.
Paris is Pandemonium on Earth ?? I lived in Paris and now I am living in London. I can say that Paris is not Pandemonium on Earth. There are a lot of good things : good transport system, good flats, a lot of things to do, coffee shops and restaurants. No it is not pandemonium on earth.

Belial
07-11-2007, 11:28 AM
May it be because AF sticks to Poitiers like a clam on its provincial rock ? :D
J/K

Paris is overdone anyway, as pointed out by our german buddy it's the centralistic nature of France and Pars which bothers us. Once you're done with the museums and the landmakrs, it's just a town like any other. Good luck trying to find that "city of love" vibe in a crowded metro or RER. Reminds me of the Paris syndrome experienced by some Japanese people ...
Tourists are just being the victims of their own stereotypes and misconceptions.

Atlantic Friend
07-12-2007, 09:50 AM
Paris is Pandemonium on Earth ?? I lived in Paris and now I am living in London. I can say that Paris is not Pandemonium on Earth. There are a lot of good things : good transport system, good flats, a lot of things to do, coffee shops and restaurants. No it is not pandemonium on earth.

Hey, now, don't diss Pandemonium's restaurants, Bit ! ;)