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Pook2
07-15-2007, 06:17 PM
Do any of you have a copy or have you read a book called War Without Honor by Gerald H. Stone?

The reason I ask Aussies is because Stone was an Australian journalist and the book was published in Australia quite a while ago.

There is some certain info that I have heard is in that book and I am interested in knowing what it is.

EDIT-****! wrong forum.

digrar
07-15-2007, 08:11 PM
http://www.booksandcollectibles.com.au/bsearch.php3?bsearch_submit=Search&auth=Stone%2C+Gerald+L.&title=War+Without+Honour

Look for Honour spelled the correct way, language butchering seppo's. p-)

I haven't seen it before, printed in 1966 and a book on Viet Nam, so it would be an interesting take on something that was still in its early days.

Pook2
07-15-2007, 08:13 PM
http://www.booksandcollectibles.com.au/bsearch.php3?bsearch_submit=Search&auth=Stone%2C+Gerald+L.&title=War+Without+Honour

Look for Honour spelled the correct way, language butchering seppo's. p-)

I haven't seen it before, printed in 1966 and a book on Viet Nam, so it would be an interesting take on something that was still in its early days.

Reason I ask is because my dad's cousin is supposedly featured in the book. He was with 5th SFG and was detached from them and attached to an Australian unit. The reporter interviewed him for quite some time from what I hear.

digrar
07-15-2007, 08:18 PM
AATTV doesn't ring a bell does it?

Pook2
07-15-2007, 08:20 PM
AATTV doesn't ring a bell does it?

No, not really. :-(

digrar
07-15-2007, 08:34 PM
I've found the Australian online second hand book shops to be pretty good and I think I saw a $9 copy there, so you could probably get it shipped to you for about $20 US all up.:-)

Toddy1
07-15-2007, 08:53 PM
Gerald L. Stone, War without honour (Brisbane: Jacaranda, 1966). [A journalist's account of the build-up to war in Vietnam, critical of Australian involvement. Written before the height of Australia's commitment to the conflict.]

Toddy1
07-15-2007, 08:55 PM
Much better book IMHO, probably does not have your Uncle in it though mate....

Gary McKay interviewed the men of Delta Company from the last Australian battalion that served in Viet Nam. In 1993, he travelled back to Viet Nam with some of them. There he met with former Viet Cong and North Vietnamese soldiers, who shared their private views on one of the most tragic episodes in Australian military history.
Delta Four exposes the inner workings of a rifle company – how its soldiers trained for war, and how they operated and fought in the war zone. It examines the basic qualities of infantry soldiering, of leadership and battlecraft. Above all else, it gives the soldier’s viewpoints of those aspects of war-fighting not found in training pamphlets.
The reader will share in the inner most feelings and thoughts of the men whose job was to seek out, close with and kill the elusive Viet Cong and North Vietnamese enemy. They will share in the triumphs and
day wondering if this would be their last.



The endorsements for this book come from two of Australia’s eminent infantry leaders who served in Korea, Malaya and Viet Nam.

‘Dear Gary, I have just finished reading your great book Delta Four. It is a vivid, gripping and very fine description of the Australian Infantry soldier… Although the actions described are all in Viet Nam, the theme of the quite exceptional Aussie Digger could apply equally well to all other wars in which we have fought.’ Brigadier, The Honourable David Thomson, MC, RL
‘Gary McKay vividly recalls the challenges faced by junior leaders in Viet Nam in the 1970s in a way that makes his book essential reading for junior and not-so-junior leaders in the armed forces today… It is relevant to junior leaders in many walks of life, not only for its military aspects but also for its examples of human relationships and in all leadership.’ Major General A. L. Morrison, AO, DSO, MBE

gafkiwi
07-28-2007, 05:09 AM
I can 2nd that on Delta four Toddy, I read it a few years ago and its one of the best vietnam based books I've read.

digrar
03-31-2008, 08:00 AM
All of Gary's books are good value, In Good Company, Sleeping With Your Ears Open, Delta Four, Bullets, Beans and Bandages and I imagine Jungle Tracks is good too, I haven't read that one but.

ArmyJonHall
03-31-2008, 08:37 AM
Just steer clear of Ian McPhedrans "books".