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2Sheds_Jackson
07-17-2007, 08:18 PM
So it was Sunday, and I was really bored and decided to go for a drive. My truck was grubby, so I figured I'd to wash it first, because no self respecting man wants to drive around in a pickup covered in road grime. Naturally, I wasn't gonna take the pansy way out and have somebody else do it - so I got the bucket and hose out, and Armor All etc. - and it cleaned up real purdy. Then I gassed it up. And then I hit the road.

I was driving around on a perfect sunny day in a clean truck that I fixed up myself, feeling and looking the very picture of success. Then I turned on NPR to get some news. However, instead of news, they had one of their many award winning programs on, so I decided to listen in. This proved to be a mistake.

It was some Hispanic themed show, hosted by a nice Hispanic lady host - because as we all know, the host color must match the color of the news. But she lent some unintentional humor to the show by speaking in a trained and polished Midwestern "radio" accent most of the time, but then launching into a comically over-accented Spanish accent when saying a word even remotely related to Spanish. I had a French Canadian girlfriend who had a thick Maine accent...except when she'd say the word "croissant" - which she spit out with all the phlegmy gusto of a snooty French waiter. I used to laugh and make her say it over and over. Which is why she found me unsuitable for marriage.

The show was about a Latino (and please read it with the proper over-earnest accent) who joined the Army, made it to Staff Sgt, then refused to return to Iraq. See, he didn't sign up to murder civilians just to boost corporate profits. He'd been on NPR's show before, and was treated like a returning hero. This time he was selling his book about abandoning his post. At no time did the NPR host ever once question a single one of his assertions. She let him sit there and go on and on with his left wing douchebaggery - never once questioning, or asking for any kind of backup or corroboration. It was the usual - killing civilians, torturing people, eating babies, flushing Korans etc. all just so Halliburton stock goes up. My blood pressure shot up but I forced myself to keep listening.

Next up was the ever so touching story of the Carrolton TX police dept who are having difficulties "reaching out" to the illegal community. At some point, an illegal with a felony record was handed over to the INS - and now the local illegals are all upset that they'll be turned over too. The story went on and on with tearful recanting - though an interpreter of course because the principles don't speak English - of the terrible hardships heaped upon them by our unjust society. I wondered when this train left the tracks - when did the police become trained and required to turn a blind eye to the commission of crimes? It used to be that when we "reached out" to an illegal, we then grabbed them with both hands and threw them back over the border.

Then the next show started, featuring some ex-Vietnam protester - a social commentator and golden boy of the boomer generation who's gone all new-age awareness now, and has a new book out about finding true happiness. Boomers make great new-agers because they're awful at selling traditional religion. There's just something about living the last 40 years in a haze of self-indulgence that makes it come off a lot like Scott Peterson's phone call from "Paris" to his girlfriend during his missing wife's candle-light vigil. Creepy and fake. But crystals, mother earth and cosmic awareness - hot diggidy dog, sign me up . None the less, I could have sworn I had already achieved happiness, thanks to my clean truck, and didn't really need his book. After listening I learned I was not actually happy because I was not sufficiently developed as a human being, gosh darn it.

He spoke in a voice so soft and yielding that he could hardly muster the effort to form the hard "T" sound at the end of a word that makes a "T" sound like a "T". Instead, his carefully crafted hushed tones delivered "T"'s as a "D". So "feast" came out like "feasd". He sounded as if he wanted very badly to rub my balls and give me a cuddle. He was so quiet that the microphone gain was cranked up to a point where you could hear every strand of spittle in his mouth breaking as he spoke, end every bubble of spit on his tongue popping. It was mesmerizingly pornographic. The very first words that he barely whispered, and I'm not kidding, were; "The Earth is dying. We all see that, righd?" He then went on to femininely whisper that real happiness is all about achieving cosmic awareness - casting off our crass pursuit of things, or sexual conquests - not killing the Earth any more - and just seeking the inner quiet. He actually made the host be quiet and after a moment of silence says "see? There id is. Thad's the quied". The host of course never once said "You're totally full of sh*t aren't you, you massive pansy?". No, the host was enthralled and enraptured by this flake's all-engulfing vagina-like sensitivity. At that point, I was forced to either turn it off, or drive my truck off the nearest bridge. So I just turned it off, because I'd just washed the truck.

This is our national radio network funded by taxpayer dollars? This is politically neutral? Listening to NPR is like listening to a bitter post-menopausal woman complaining about everything gone wrong in her life. Can't we get some balance? Enough with the pinched, Vassar educated minority hyphenated-woman producers - hire some grumpy old white guys - we're people too dammit.

Thank you for listening, and I will now go write a sternly worded letter to the IRS regarding NPR's failure to live up to their non-profit charter.

IraGlacialis
07-17-2007, 08:28 PM
I never had a problem with NPR and have found it pretty balanced.
However, I always listen to it during the weekday whenever I commute. That's where you will find the "old white folk" talking to two opposing viewpoints.

The weekends, besides not having news stuff (except for the quick updates), usually don't have anything good on there and/or are filled with local stuff. And I noticed that you listened to it during Sunday.

Fargin
07-17-2007, 08:31 PM
If it wasn't for the great sarcasm & intelligence, this story would make a great e-chain letter. If you cut the humour from the rant it might appeal to the average Joe Bob or even Jorge.

2Sheds_Jackson
07-17-2007, 08:45 PM
No way - I'm paid by the word p-)

mas36
07-17-2007, 08:57 PM
Loyal NPR listener. The only place in the sphere of talk radio where participants aren't screaming at eachother like a bunch of 6 year olds.

mi35d
07-17-2007, 10:29 PM
Thats because there is no interplay between the audience and the host and the material is carefully crafted propaganda. Quiet its more soothing to the masses. It also adds an air of moral superiority that the elitist left likes to carry about like a badge of honor.

Hellfish
07-17-2007, 10:34 PM
Thats because there is no interplay between the audience and the host and the material is carefully crafted propaganda. Quiet it more soothing to the masses. It also adds an air of moral superiority that the elitist left likes to carry about like a badge of honor.

You're ****ing nutty. I found out about Ron Paul from NPR.

gaijinsamurai
07-17-2007, 10:37 PM
I'm surprised you'd be listening to NPR to begin with, 2Sheds!
It's kinda like hearing Budgie or El Hombre get mad about what they heard on Fox News. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

IraGlacialis
07-17-2007, 10:41 PM
Thats because there is no interplay between the audience and the host and the material is carefully crafted propaganda.
In many of the shows (again, during the weekday), they allow people to call in for their opinions and questions.

There is one thing I don't like about NPR: when they start begging for money for a whole week. GTA: Vice City made a great parody of that.

mi35d
07-17-2007, 11:34 PM
And for every "Ron Paul" (if you care to follow him) there are a dozen or more stories about evil republicans, bad military people, global warming and general leftiness.

helomech
07-17-2007, 11:43 PM
NPR can be liberal at times,I can decipher it when they have those trivia type shows on the weekend;I nomally listen to it when I make the drive to Atlanta to pick my kids up and make them listen as well;I find NPR more tolerable than other talk shows including the conservative shows..and they play a mix of music too

Firetxmi
07-18-2007, 12:02 AM
Car Talk with Click and Clack is the best! I like their news also.

SnakeBiteLeader
07-18-2007, 12:03 AM
Car Talk with Click and Clack is the best!

We can agree on that.

Hellfish
07-18-2007, 12:03 AM
I can't stand their accents.

helomech
07-18-2007, 12:08 AM
I can't stand their accents.

That's what makes' Click and Clack amusing!

Hellfish
07-18-2007, 12:11 AM
That's what makes' Click and Clack amusing!

It also makes me want to set New England and/or New Jersey on fire.

IraGlacialis
07-18-2007, 12:12 AM
It also makes me want to set New England and/or New Jersey on fire.
Not hard to do; just light a match.

Hellfish
07-18-2007, 12:14 AM
Not hard to do; just light a match.

So how come nobody has done it yet. Surely I'm not the first person to think of it.

helomech
07-18-2007, 12:14 AM
It also makes me want to set New England and/or New Jersey on fire.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....it's not so bad,come on up to JOISY!

Hellfish
07-18-2007, 12:16 AM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....it's not so bad,come on up to JOISY!

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/3361/guido033pl.jpg

This is you, isn't it?

BloodyTalon
07-18-2007, 12:20 AM
I love how this thread transitioned from NPR to Car Talk and now to Guidos.

IraGlacialis
07-18-2007, 12:29 AM
^^^^^
You forgot the destruction of the northeast coast (New Jersey in particular).

helomech
07-18-2007, 12:33 AM
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/3361/guido033pl.jpg

This is you, isn't it?

Hahahahahahaha.....no that's not me,I don't own a Superman belt buckle

IraGlacialis
07-18-2007, 12:37 AM
Wait a minute... you only denied having the belt buckle.

helomech
07-18-2007, 12:41 AM
Wait a minute... you only denied having the belt buckle.

roflroflrofl

Man,if I looked like that,I'd have to kick my own a_ss!

Ordie
07-18-2007, 12:51 AM
I too listened to "Latino USA".
Overall the program does a good job in informing what's going on in Latino Media.

Although I did find the segment on the "deserter" troubling since the majority of Latino soldiers are loyal and dedicated as it should be.

A while back they had a good forum on the immigration issue with panelist from all sides including the Minutemen.

Overall no shouting, accusations, blaming or fingerpointing. The host, was respectful of the Minuteman representative opinions and other panelist were civil dispite disagreements.

It was nice not to hear trash talk.

BloodyTalon
07-18-2007, 01:30 AM
http://www.gatorswearjeanshorts.net/TheGuido.jpg
Fun Fact: this was taken during helomech's last party.

Hellfish
07-18-2007, 01:31 AM
I knew it.

HOLLiS
07-18-2007, 03:25 AM
http://www.gatorswearjeanshorts.net/TheGuido.jpg
Fun Fact: this was taken during helomech's last party.


egads................... What is this world coming too? A damn love fest and NO BABES? you should be ashame of yourselves!!!!

2Sheds_Jackson
07-18-2007, 04:05 AM
I'm surprised you'd be listening to NPR to begin with, 2Sheds!
It's kinda like hearing Budgie or El Hombre get mad about what they heard on Fox News. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

I listen to NPR all the time - I like their news because it goes way more in depth than the 15 second snippets we get on the rest of the MSM.

The difference in the complaining though - is that Fox isn't taxpayer funded. They can be as biased as their advertising revenue will support. NPR is a tax exempt organization - and they're not supposed to take one political side over another.

Car Talk with Click and Clack is the best!

Oh yeah, they aaah wicked great.

mas36
07-18-2007, 05:37 AM
http://www.gatorswearjeanshorts.net/TheGuido.jpg


I don't care what the main topic is anymore - It should be perfectly legal, and even encouraged to beat the living bat-crap out of Guidos.

HR24
07-18-2007, 10:31 AM
I can't stand NPR for the simple fact that the host's voices make me want to drill a hole in my head with my duty weapon. I keep waiting to hear some New Age-y music come pumping through my car radio when listening to their hosts with their gay little sound effects. I'm forced to listen to this crap b/c my wife, a New England liberal, loves it. It's amazing the things you do for women.....

Beowulf
07-18-2007, 10:37 AM
I like NPR, but they are defiitely biased.

deadtired
07-18-2007, 11:05 AM
A Prairie Home Companion is fun to listen to when drunk.

Beowulf
07-18-2007, 11:21 AM
A Prairie Home Companion is fun to listen to when drunk.

yeah, i like click and clack, and This American Life. I like the way Ira Glass puts pauses after every clause in his sentences.

Today....on this american life....a young man...and his struggle against dairy.

Mr. JOSHUA
07-18-2007, 12:26 PM
I'm surprised you'd be listening to NPR to begin with, 2Sheds!
It's kinda like hearing Budgie or El Hombre get mad about what they heard on Fox News. Hypothetically speaking, of course.


.............roflroflrofl

http://www.gatorswearjeanshorts.net/TheGuido.jpg


Friggin sausage fest............. Let this be a lesson to those of you who actually go out clubbin', if you go to a club and take pictures, make sure you get a girl first and put her on your lap or grab her tit or put her hand on your ****.

Spikey hair and a Heiny, oh yeah, way cooooooooool. :roll:

2Sheds_Jackson
07-18-2007, 12:31 PM
It's like beaming onto another planet where there's all the time in the world for dramatic pauses. Where bump music is made using instruments made of tree bark and old bicycle tires. Where a radio host can have a debilitating vocal condition making them sound like they're riding down a bumpy road and driving all the listeners absolutely bat-sh*t. Where all the misery, injustice and negativity of life all points back to you, and therefore doesn't seem quite so out of control. Where the collective alternate reality is so pervasive, that a company selling something as mundane as printer cartridge refills can actually say, with a straight face, that their mission is to "keep printer cartridges out of landfills". I would have thought it was something like "to make money by selling printer cartridge refills". But no, not on Planet NPR.

helomech
07-18-2007, 01:58 PM
http://www.gatorswearjeanshorts.net/TheGuido.jpg
Fun Fact: this was taken during helomech's last party.

Dude,that's just so wrong...no women anywhere near them-FAG ALERT!!!!!!

Beowulf
07-18-2007, 02:32 PM
It's like beaming onto another planet where there's all the time in the world for dramatic pauses. Where bump music is made using instruments made of tree bark and old bicycle tires. Where a radio host can have a debilitating vocal condition making them sound like they're riding down a bumpy road and driving all the listeners absolutely bat-sh*t. Where all the misery, injustice and negativity of life all points back to you, and therefore doesn't seem quite so out of control. Where the collective alternate reality is so pervasive, that a company selling something as mundane as printer cartridge refills can actually say, with a straight face, that their mission is to "keep printer cartridges out of landfills". I would have thought it was something like "to make money by selling printer cartridge refills". But no, not on Planet NPR.

haha well said as always. Diane Rehm...wtf

LMAV
07-18-2007, 02:43 PM
I never had a problem with NPR and have found it pretty balanced. . I'm sure if your views are similar it seems balanced, but NPR is anything but balanced. They appeal to the art snob know-it-alls and I know this because I just described a lot of my friends and NPR is all they listen to. Seriously though, there is no attempt at NPR to see issues from both sides of the isle. 2sheds makes a very good point about public funding.

HR24
07-18-2007, 03:18 PM
.............roflroflrofl

http://www.gatorswearjeanshorts.net/TheGuido.jpg


Friggin sausage fest............. Let this be a lesson to those of you who actually go out clubbin', if you go to a club and take pictures, make sure you get a girl first and put her on your lap or grab her tit or put her hand on your ****.

Spikey hair and a Heiny, oh yeah, way cooooooooool. :roll:

LOL! Makes me want to light a match in their vicinity and watch the fireball flash from all of the product in their hair.

HR24
07-18-2007, 03:19 PM
It's like beaming onto another planet where there's all the time in the world for dramatic pauses. Where bump music is made using instruments made of tree bark and old bicycle tires. Where a radio host can have a debilitating vocal condition making them sound like they're riding down a bumpy road and driving all the listeners absolutely bat-sh*t. Where all the misery, injustice and negativity of life all points back to you, and therefore doesn't seem quite so out of control. Where the collective alternate reality is so pervasive, that a company selling something as mundane as printer cartridge refills can actually say, with a straight face, that their mission is to "keep printer cartridges out of landfills". I would have thought it was something like "to make money by selling printer cartridge refills". But no, not on Planet NPR.

Quoted for truth. Priceless.

2Sheds_Jackson
07-18-2007, 03:42 PM
Don't get me wrong. I like NPR. It's like going to a museum, or library other artsy-fartsy thing that you know you really should go to but don't enough. And you kind of shake your head, wondering how these people make it through the day without being run over by a car, or setting themselves on fire by accident.

loganinkosovo
07-18-2007, 07:26 PM
National People's Radio aka National Communist Radio............

Overseas we were forced to listen to 22 hours a day of that Pinko drivel on AFN radio. If you wanted to hear English speaking Talk Radio you had to listen to this ****e.

If you can stomach it for long enough it does one constructive thing, it gives you an education on the twisted mind of the American Liberal.

I had a breakthrough in that respect while listening to "Talk of the Town" one night at work. They had on a traitorous scumbag who worked for Oppenheimer on the A and H bombs. He had just written a book describing how he and others with him had sold our national security secrets, including both bombs to the soviets.

The host as gushing so bad I though he as going to get down on his knees and give this bastard a blow job .

The rotten traitor even gave his rational for betraying his country, killing his fellow Americans and plunging us into a 40 plus year cold war. It's this rational that finally revealed to me just how twisted the American Left is.

The Left hates America, the American Government, The American Military and the Constitution so much that they will do anything in their power to make sure that America is never the only world superpower.

They believe that there must always be a balancing superpower to oppose the Evil Satan. It doesn't matter how horrible, murderous and corrupt that opposing superpower is they will do anything to create it and keep it in power.

I never understood how these people could betray us and sell our national security to first the Soviets and then the ChiComs until this moment and then it all became clear to me. I never thought people who call themselves Americans could be this Evil and deluded until the fact was forced on me by NPR.

The questions the Host never asked was how the "scientist" could betray the Free World and why his miserable rotten criminal ass wasn't in prison and looking at a death sentence where he should have been.

As the old saying goes "The greatest threat to Democracy and Freedom is neither Fascism nor Communism, It's the American Liberal."


Having said that "Click and Clack" and "The Prairie Home Companion" are funny to listen too but even they get on their leftist rag every once in a while. The rest of the crap would never make it on commercial radio just as "Air AMarxica" has proven.

Oh....and Guidos suck just as bad a Chavs. Both should have the snot slapped out of them for even showing their silly asses in Public. :)

Ordie
07-18-2007, 08:05 PM
When I was stationed on Diego Garcia, we listened to AFN, read Stars and Stripes and watched AFARTS.

The only thing that was non-biased was the sports scores.

Radio wise the only other options were Voice of America, Radio Moscow, BBC, and some station in the Maldives.

Radio Moscow was an excellent sleeping pill, especially when they discussed the daily agenda of the Soviet Politburo. The BBC was considered the on-air university with lectures and panel discussions.
And Voice of America was pure propaganda.

IraGlacialis
07-18-2007, 08:21 PM
I'm sure if your views are similar it seems balanced, but NPR is anything but balanced. They appeal to the art snob know-it-alls and I know this because I just described a lot of my friends and NPR is all they listen to.Hehehe... well I do like art and like to visit galleries whenever I have the chance, even if I consider most of the new stuff complete crap.
Even though it may be elitist, compared to most of the major TV news channels, NPR is quite balanced (maybe not balanced by a neutral standard, but comparatively balanced).

2Sheds_Jackson
07-18-2007, 08:38 PM
Even though it may be elitist, compared to most of the major TV news channels, NPR is quite balanced (maybe not balanced by a neutral standard, but comparatively balanced).

Well that's kinda funny - I always bring up the MSM version of "balance" which is to get a panel consisting of 3 liberals and a centrist.

IraGlacialis
07-18-2007, 08:48 PM
^^^^^
MSM?

Well most evidence points to me being a centrist, with slightly conservative leanings. A slightly elitist prick (I don't deny it) of a centrist, but still a centrist.

2Sheds_Jackson
07-26-2007, 06:29 PM
Soul-murdering update;

I listened to NPR again last weekend while driving a few miles to buy new guitar strings.

First story was about "climate refugees" - the poor residents of some pacific island chain who were being forced out by climate change. Climate change that's somehow different than the climate change that formed their current sea level. Not just that, but the fact that they want somebody else to pay for their relocation. Most of us figured out that no matter how appealing it may seem to live on a tropical island that's 2 feet above sea level...it's just not very smart. So welcome to the real world.

Next story was about the booming business in windmills - and how Europe was so forward thinking compared to the US. No mention of whether or not producing windmills is creating more greenhouse gasses than they save, or what the net effect of their use is, or the devastation they cause to bird populations...but just that windmills are just wicked great and we totally need lots of them.

Just as I was getting ready to switch them off, they had a story with no leftist political leanings - about robots. I halfway expected them to launch into a segment about how we must be sure to use an equal number of NiCd, NiMH, and Li-ion powered robots - gotta have equal opportunity y'know.

Handplaner
07-26-2007, 06:38 PM
It also makes me want to set New England and/or New Jersey on fire.

Their accents are 100% Boston. We here don't lisp like you fags--where-ever you are from:):hug:

kamaz
07-26-2007, 07:04 PM
I had a French Canadian girlfriend who had a thick Maine accent...except when she'd say the word "croissant" - which she spit out with all the phlegmy gusto of a snooty French waiter. I used to laugh and make her say it over and over. Which is why she found me unsuitable for marriage.
.


hehe, great post 2Sheds. I dont mind NPR, its def better than any right or left wing news, it does have its nutty moments, especially on Goodman's democracy Now program. you gotta filter it obviously, like anything else.

kamaz
07-26-2007, 07:06 PM
Next story was about the booming business in windmills - and how Europe was so forward thinking compared to the US. No mention of whether or not producing windmills is creating more greenhouse gasses than they save, or what the net effect of their use is, or the devastation they cause to bird populations...but just that windmills are just wicked great and we totally need lots of them.




I drove thru Texas pandhandle (thru Amarillo) 2 weeks ago and there were windfarms everywhere, giant windmills for miles.

Handplaner
07-26-2007, 07:08 PM
2 Sheds--
That is a good piece of writing--I feel the exact same way; their rabid bias is so offensive to me most of the time, I just can't believe they take themselves seriously. Go google on the topic of "npr and selling pledge donors names list to the democratic party during campaign season"--I **** you not, they did that in the late 80's and got caught, and didn't lose gov't funding (!!!) As for that horrible, self-hating, "other" glorifying, mid-life menopausal motorway wreck of a human, the Hispaniphile white b1tch-- I know exactly who you are talking about; I'm waiting for her to "mexify" the words "California" and "New Mexico".

Cue her voice, and read this,my humble contribution:
" If it were not for El-Nino rains, I would travel south to the Alamo, as I am an aficianado of the history of Texas. But since it is flooding, I will gather my friends, in their boats, form a flotilla of psuedo galleons, and embark for a marijuana- and margarita-consuming vacation in either Florida, Montana, or Colorado. If that fails, I'll just sit home smoking tobacco, drinking tequila, and hope that no tornado hits here"

IraGlacialis
07-26-2007, 07:13 PM
Windmills are awesome!!

http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.com/turbines-water.jpeg

Handplaner
07-26-2007, 07:14 PM
haha well said as always. Diane Rehm...wtf

LOL. I am convinced that she is about to die at any moment, on any current show of hers. Don't they realize that her voice is NO LONGER radio-worthy? Please, stuff her in the nearest hospice and lock the friggin doors. Die already, Diane!p-)woot

Durandal
07-26-2007, 07:20 PM
And for every "Ron Paul" (if you care to follow him) there are a dozen or more stories about evil republicans, bad military people, global warming and general leftiness.

rofl

When I am in the tractor, I listen to NPR. For some reason I get it better than the local AM affiliate or what was originally the single best independent radio station in the county...WOXY.

All that said...I listen to NPR. I used to hate it and just tune into Fresh Air and Science Friday...and if I was working on the weekend baling hay or something, Prairie Home Companion, Car Talk, and This American Life, but its gotten pretty balanced in the other shows (except obviously if they are steaming the BBC).

Diane Rheme can suck a bullet for all I care she is sooo biased. Annoying, loves to hear her own voice and has a special group of commandos out there to do her bidding. Sort of like a skinny, older, female liberal Rush Limbaugh.

Its also the only station that I can get a farm report around that part of Ohio.

I've heard some pretty good knock down drag out screaming matches between both the guests and the call ins and like it or not, they ARE smarter. They get a good selection of people in. I was listening the other day and the had the prime minister of Zimbabwe on. They asked him questions and he answered and everyone knew he was feeding us a line and let him go. They had him sandwiched in between a black civil rights advocate and a white reporter. That was interesting.

I listen to all the Krulwhich on Science monologues. He break down basic science, like "where does Gold come from? (answer stars going super nova...not god, for those of you hanging out in the Creationism Museum down the street from me), into layman's terms ini a funny story. Great for kids too, especially for home schoolers that haven;t had the chance to crack that part of the science text. :)

Anyways...there are times NPR frustrates the hell out of me, but less so than the constant monologues I hear on AM talk radio which are more ego interviews than anything else.

Edit: 2Sgeds...funny post though. I was laughing my ass off, especially the first couple of lines about trucks and girlfriends.

Handplaner
07-26-2007, 07:24 PM
Soul-murdering update;

I listened to NPR again last weekend while driving a few miles to buy new guitar strings.

First story was about "climate refugees" - the poor residents of some pacific island chain who were being forced out by climate change. Climate change that's somehow different than the climate change that formed their current sea level. Not just that, but the fact that they want somebody else to pay for their relocation. Most of us figured out that no matter how appealing it may seem to live on a tropical island that's 2 feet above sea level...it's just not very smart. So welcome to the real world.

Next story was about the booming business in windmills - and how Europe was so forward thinking compared to the US. No mention of whether or not producing windmills is creating more greenhouse gasses than they save, or what the net effect of their use is, or the devastation they cause to bird populations...but just that windmills are just wicked great and we totally need lots of them.

Just as I was getting ready to switch them off, they had a story with no leftist political leanings - about robots. I halfway expected them to launch into a segment about how we must be sure to use an equal number of NiCd, NiMH, and Li-ion powered robots - gotta have equal opportunity y'know.
Re: windmills, 2 sheds:

There has been a very concerted effort in Massachusetts, for the last 10 years, to build a big windfarm off of the coast of Cape Cod , past the island called Nantucket or Marthas' Vineyard, I forget which. Well, the ONLY impediment to this kilo-watt spewing, no-pollution energy producing wonder is.........................wait for it, wait for it..................................
fat-boy himself, the most liberal liberal in the Senate, Ted Kennedy. He has had this thing IN COURT/ in state senate for ever, fighting it the whole friggin' way! Kerry is against it too. The reason is as plain as day: it will be visible from the shore of their summer mansions, and we can't have that, now, can we--actually seeing something that you don't want to! For the same reasons I want him banned; his fat a$$ is visible from my house:roll:woot

IraGlacialis
07-26-2007, 07:32 PM
Probably the shows I most listen to (besides the news itself) are All things Considered, Day to Day, Fresh Air, and Talk of the Nation (including Science Friday).
The shows 2Sheds mentioned I never heard (since I don't listen to weekned NPR except for maybe some Car Talk or Prairie Home Companion), so I can't base an opinion on that.

There has been a very concerted effort in Massachusetts, for the last 10 years, to build a big windfarm off of the coast of Cape Cod , past the island called Nantucket or Marthas' Vineyard, I forget which. Well, the ONLY impediment to this kilo-watt spewing, no-pollution energy producing wonder is.........................wait for it, wait for it..................................
fat-boy himself, the most liberal liberal in the Senate, Ted Kennedy. He has had this thing IN COURT/ in state senate for ever, fighting it the whole friggin' way! Kerry is against it too. The reason is as plain as day: it will be visible from the shore of their summer mansions, and we can't have that, now, can we--actually seeing something that you don't want to! For the same reasons I want him banned; his fat a$$ is visible from my house:roll:woot
I truly don't see what is so hideous about wind turbines; there is something cool about these massive propellers turning to a steady beat.
A funny thing I read is a proposal to put in some turbines on the great lakes due to the current coming from the bodies of water. Of course many people who live in the overpriced lakehouses oppose that. Ironically, a few neighborhoods that opposed that plan are in close proximity to fume-spewing factories and power plants. I guess "see no evil" applies here.

Firetxmi
07-26-2007, 10:15 PM
All that said...I listen to NPR. I used to hate it and just tune into Fresh Air and Science Friday...and if I was working on the weekend baling hay or something, Prairie Home Companion, Car Talk, and This American Life, but its gotten pretty balanced in the other shows (except obviously if they are steaming the BBC).



Wow! If I am working on the farm or baling hay I listen to country music. Hell, I listen to country music any time!

Durandal
07-26-2007, 10:29 PM
Wow! If I am working on the farm or baling hay I listen to country music. Hell, I listen to country music any time!

Thank you for stereotyping.

I am a Beastie Boys fan, first and foremost, having been to their License to Ill tour with Run DMC. Alternative, Punk, Electronic is my fair today. Fell in love with it back in the late 80s and 90s.


Of course, I also LOVE live Bluegrass and Classical...some John Coletrain too...but thats not what we are talking about.

I blame being in ROTC while attending the College of Art. p-)

Now I farm.

Ya got to love the world.

HOLLiS
07-26-2007, 10:34 PM
Thank you for stereotyping.




You have to excuse him, he is everything he says he hate. On corn-fused sucka.

I Just like listening to the engine on my tractor. Sort of a Zen thing, to be one.

Durandal
07-26-2007, 10:39 PM
You have to excuse him, he is everything he says he hate. On corn-fused sucka.

I Just like listening to the engine on my tractor. Sort of a Zen thing, to be one.

Sometimes I bring along my iPod if I know its going to be an all day thing and jam.

I fell asleep one time disking. Seriously, just got stoned cold bored listening to the engine. Next thing I know I'm about 8 rows over going diagonal against my runs. :cantbeli:

Handplaner
07-26-2007, 10:48 PM
Thank you for stereotyping.

I am a Beastie Boys fan, first and foremost, having been to their License to Ill tour with Run DMC. Alternative, Punk, Electronic is my fair today. Fell in love with it back in the late 80s and 90s.


Of course, I also LOVE live Bluegrass and Classical...some John Coletrain too...but thats not what we are talking about.

I blame being in ROTC while attending the College of Art. p-)

Now I farm.

Ya got to love the world.

I like your mix of interests; its good for the sould to keep things mixed up. Too bad NPR has you(and me) demographically written off as a dumb hick. (Can't you tell that I hate NPR?) Actually, I listen to it way more than I should--I work alone, in my own cabinetmaking/furniture design-build shop and I always have talk radio on--I have developed the bad habit of talking back to annoying liberals on the radio :)

LOL RUN-DMC-- I used to break-dance to "Hard-Times" in middle school--I'm 34 now, you do the math:) I've been with the B-Boys since "Cookie Puss". Liscence to Ill was 8th grade staple. Oh, the memories. Thanks for your ROTC service to our USA--I've never served:oops:

Kaplanr
07-26-2007, 11:07 PM
Sometimes I bring along my iPod if I know its going to be an all day thing and jam.

I fell asleep one time disking. Seriously, just got stoned cold bored listening to the engine. Next thing I know I'm about 8 rows over going diagonal against my runs. :cantbeli:

Used to happen to me and others when we'd break-in a new JD. Problem was this was a kibbutz on the Jordanian border before the treaty. One guy woke up just before he approached the border fence. Jazz in my garage.

Can't blame NPR for all your local woes. Rememer the local station slots the programming; they get some of the blame for the crap. In Pittsburgh we have two Public stations; one very progressive (Commie pinko to many of you :)) and the other - WDUQ-FM - more mainstream. No BBC feeds and lots of jazz. Personally I can't abide Susan Standberg or Ira Glass and even What do you Know is starting to grate on me.

I enjoy Tom & Ray, but for me it's testing wits. I did some work with them when I lived in Beantown 1989-90. They made a pile of $$ developing auto-repair software for garages. It was so good that small shops would plunk down a crapload of money to install it and use up their ready cash. My boss was one of those Bozos - anyone remember Longwood Motor Cars? They used to be in Longwood Towers near the hospitals and then he "expanded" and rented space off Comm Ave. near BU. Mal's was just around the corner from us.

HOLLiS
07-26-2007, 11:09 PM
Sometimes I bring along my iPod if I know its going to be an all day thing and jam.

I fell asleep one time disking. Seriously, just got stoned cold bored listening to the engine. Next thing I know I'm about 8 rows over going diagonal against my runs. :cantbeli:


I can see that, we got some big farms around me. It is endless and seemingly endless rows. I have a forest, so it is more road work and weed abatement. I have always love the sound of engines. When I was 6 weeks old, we (mom, sis and I sailed to Guam on a navy transport). Probably the hum of the engines did it to me. Even driving I rarely listen to music, even though I really enjoy a wide variety of music. I also prefer the sounds of silence over "noise".

Firetxmi
07-27-2007, 01:01 AM
Thank you for stereotyping.

I am a Beastie Boys fan, first and foremost, having been to their License to Ill tour with Run DMC. Alternative, Punk, Electronic is my fair today. Fell in love with it back in the late 80s and 90s.


Of course, I also LOVE live Bluegrass and Classical...some John Coletrain too...but thats not what we are talking about.

I blame being in ROTC while attending the College of Art. p-)

Now I farm.

Ya got to love the world.

I like some rock too.

No stereotyping, just what I listen to to get me motivated for a hard days work out in the sun throwing hay, or baling it!

I listen to NPR while driving usually, but it doesn't get me in the mood for throwing hay, thats for sure! :D

You have to excuse him, he is everything he says he hate. On corn-fused sucka.

I don't understand this one Hollis...

Durandal
07-27-2007, 09:26 AM
Thanks for your ROTC service to our USA--I've never served:oops:

No need for thanks. I was in ROTC for three years and was asked to drop to insure placement for scholarship kids. This was pre-Gulf War, during Bush Sr., when the military was being cut drastically. We didn't have to pay back the money they had given us (I had already opted the previous year for 4 years in). I knew I wasn't going to be a lifer so I took the offer.

Herrmannek
07-27-2007, 09:49 AM
I listen to NPR all the time - I like their news because it goes way more in depth than the 15 second snippets we get on the rest of the MSM.

The difference in the complaining though - is that Fox isn't taxpayer funded. They can be as biased as their advertising revenue will support. NPR is a tax exempt organization - and they're not supposed to take one political side over another.



Oh yeah, they aaah wicked great.

There is no difference... Show me a national civil money sponsored radio that doesn't* put much more pressure on its left leg... Its way it is and you can do nothing about it... In the sense of making its straight...


*Except in some banana dictatorships :)