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seruriermarshal
05-08-2004, 06:54 AM
UK troops capture alive Sadr militiamen

BASRA, Iraq (AFP) - British soldiers raided two offices of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr and killed five militiamen during a series of gun battles in southern Iraq (news - web sites), according to AFP correspondents, hospital and military sources.


Armed protestors engaged in gun battles across the southern city of Basra that saw two members of Sadr's Mehdi Army killed and one captured, according to British military spokesman Squadron Leader Jon Arnold. One British soldier was wounded.


Militiamen armed with rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) and guns blocked off roads during the clashes in the centre of the city as groups of demonstrators against the US-led occupation gathered across the city, witnesses said.


British troops went into a Sadr office in the centre of Basra at about 10:00 am (0600 GMT), several hours after a patrol was attacked by militiamen at a square near the city centre, according to a correspondent.


There was a 20-minute gun battle followed by a second attack soon after when militiamen fired on troops from a building used by Sadr's men four kilometres (two miles) northwest of the city centre, he said.


"We can confirm there have been a number of contacts with coalition forces in Basra this morning," Arnold said.


The clashes started around an oil company and spread to several other points in the city.


"There are no reported coalition force casualties," he said. "There's great activity, so we are keeping a low profile."


The troops also raided a Sadr office in Amara, 365 kilometres (225 miles) southeast of Baghdad, after a convoy was attacked and two British soldiers were slightly wounded.


Coalition forces were fired on with RPGs and small arms, and they fired back in a series of clashes. Troops also seized mines and mortars during the fighting.


"Three militiamen were killed and six others were injured," said Dr. Saad Fakruddin at a hospital in the city.


Witnesses said the troops later left the Sadr office but reported a number of British tanks and armoured vehicles close by.


The fighting in Basra and Amara follow days of clashes between US troops and Sadr's militia in the southern Shiite cities of Najaf, Karbala, Diwaniya and Kufa, which have left scores of the Mehdi Army dead.


Twenty militiamen were killed Friday in the holy Shiite cities of Karbala and Najaf.


"What the British troops are doing today is a reaction to what the Mehdi Army did yesterday in Najaf and Karbala," said Sadr spokesman Sheikh Ahmed Al-Fartoosi.


Sadr, who has led a month-long insurgency against the US-led occupation, is holed up in Najaf, where he has vowed to lead his thousands of followers to martyrdom.


He is wanted for the murder of a rival cleric last year and the US-led coalition has embarked on a series of political and military moves to try to isolate him, crush his militia and woo disaffected young Shiite Muslims from his ranks.

Argyll
05-08-2004, 07:32 AM
Are those captured under the GC?
are they classed as armed combatants................does this mean we can torture them ;)

cqbrdy
05-08-2004, 05:45 PM
yes we can torture terrosists that we catch.

SeanAshi
05-08-2004, 05:51 PM
Break out the brisk! circumcision time! rrrrrr

scm77
05-08-2004, 07:02 PM
Here is real torture for them. Women showing skin.
http://www.nineplus.com/shop/ladies/bikinis/waikikinew.jpg

Yowza! She can electricute my genitals anyday ;)

usa320
05-08-2004, 07:38 PM
I can think of something she could do to my genitals...

anywho....




I want al Sadr dead. Why hes been allowed to live this long is beyond me. Hes a fat pig, nothing more.

SeanAshi
05-08-2004, 07:46 PM
I want al Sadr dead. Why hes been allowed to live this long is beyond me. Hes a fat pig, nothing more.The problem is how to get ahold of him in his urban environment, with out having women and children caught in the cross-fire.

seruriermarshal
05-08-2004, 08:02 PM
Now , sh*t Sadr in Kufa . Look this :


The Basra violence came a day after a preacher from Sadr's movement told worshippers in the city he would pay a reward of $70 for the capture of a British or American soldier -- and $170 for a woman soldier he said could then be kept as a *** slave.


"If we capture a British woman soldier we will take her as a concubine and we will have the right to pleasure ourselves with her," said Kassem Hassan, the Mehdi Army fighter.


The British spokesman said troops were not taking any added precautions but, while returning fire if attacked, were keeping a low profile: "There's no point in aggravating people."


U.S. troops backed by tanks seized key buildings in Najaf on Thursday. In Kerbala, another Shi'ite holy city, U.S. armored vehicles moved through town on Saturday in a show of force.


U.S. commanders have been working with rival Shi'ite leaders to rein in Sadr's resistance movement, which swept southern Iraq (news - web sites) a month ago. He is wanted for the murder of a fellow cleric. By U.S. accounts, dozens of his men have been killed in recent days, although Sadr's forces say those numbers are inflated.

usa320
05-08-2004, 08:10 PM
The problem is how to get ahold of him in his urban environment, with out having women and children caught in the cross-fire.

Back in 1998, there was an opportunity that, had we taken it, we 3,000 people would never have died. Bill Clinton refused to take advantage of that opportunity because capturing Osama bin Laden at a farm south of Kandahar COULD have injured civilians.

We need to do everything possible to minimize civilian casualties, but when we have a chance to get an HVT, we cant pass it up, because it will bite us in the ass.

American Patriot
05-08-2004, 08:23 PM
Yes, Clinton missed many opportunities to capture or kill bin Laden. His peacenik approach to foreign policy is why we suffered.

SeanAshi
05-08-2004, 08:51 PM
We need to do everything possible to minimize civilian casualties, but when we have a chance to get an HVT, we cant pass it up, because it will bite us in the ass.Surround Sadr's location don't let anything in or out, and play the waiting game.

seruriermarshal
05-08-2004, 09:01 PM
We need to do everything possible to minimize civilian casualties, but when we have a chance to get an HVT, we cant pass it up, because it will bite us in the ass.Surround Sadr's location don't let anything in or out, and play the waiting game.

Yes , so good idea , If they enter or left city , then attack and kill them .

I hope you send more plan to this post :
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13311&highlight=think+win+iraq