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INAT
07-19-2007, 05:08 AM
After my article “The ‘Successful War’ we Lost in Kosovo (http://laurencejarvikonline.blogspot.com/2007/07/julia-gorin-on-kosovo.html)” came out in this month’s American Legion Magazine, I received a letter from an American soldier who deployed there last year. He was stunned that anyone was talking about Kosovo, even more that someone was aware of the growth of Islamic fundamentalism in Kosovo and of the jihadists passing through there freely. “With all the attention on Iraq,” he told me by phone, “everyone underestimates this region. No one understands that what happens here will play a key role in European security for the next 10 [or more] years.”


Following is the most recent of a series of letters from this soldier, revealing the devastating effects on our troops when the United States allies itself with Iran and al-Qaeda in a given area. In the coming days, he has promised to send additional letters that will demonstrate our troops’ confusion about their mission in Kosovo -- something that NATO troops have been grappling with since they first arrived in Kosovo in 1999.

Letter One: “If the Albanians Rise up to Fight Us”

I was about to write you, more lovely news...terrorists, "myth or reality"? There's some more [Albanian] terrorists in our AO [area of operations] now and apparently a VBIED [vehicle-borne improvised explosive device], those nasty things that drive around and then go ka-boom. My friends and I are asking ourselves "are we on the right side?" This isn't pretty. If I were to put a time frame on this, I'd say we've got a month before something really bad happens. And Bush will have another war on his hands…We shouldn't have meddled with someone else's problem.…
My friend was making a video for the end of the deployment and was asking me a bunch of questions, for a lot of them, I was at a loss for words, because I can't really say what I feel due to the fact that the people back home want us to believe in the mission here, as well as our command, and I couldn't bring myself to say anything, even if it was B.S. My friend, the sergeant, just laughed, he thought it was an appropriate response.

I look around me and I do see a lot of soldiers who still really don't have a clue about this place and what can happen, and I wonder how they'll react if something does happen and bullets start flying…I had this discussion with some of my friends who've been in combat. If something does happen, how will our command react and perform? I'm going to take a big risk here, but I'm going to tell you something because I think it's important. We're not in any kind of shape to deal with an insurgency, if a sufficiently sized one arises. There are (reported) 16,000 KFOR/NATO troops garrisoned here. How many of them do you think are combat arms (infantry, cavalry, scouts, snipers, special forces)? The average infantryman in the U.S. Army has about 60 people, roughly, who support him. That's just for the U.S. Now, that was something I remember from Basic Training that my drill sergeant told us. What about our allies? It is rumored that we have a QRF (quick reaction force) of a couple large units that can come to our aid, but how long do you think it will take them to get from Western Europe to us on short notice, realistically, due to the two fronts we have in Afghanistan and Iraq?

I talked to my roommate about this, [a] Gulf War veteran. He told me it wouldn't last long, but that's naive. He fought against a conventional military in a conventional conflict that lasted no more than 100 hours on the ground. Look at Vietnam, Rhodesia, other parts of Africa, and of course the war we are fighting now. We would fight guerillas who know the terrain, are professional fighters and have fought in the Balkans for a good portion of their lives, and have had years to watch, study, and case us and our allies. They know our rotations, our equipment, our capabilities, and our shortfalls. I'm not a strategist, but I know enough about military history and strategy to know that we'd be against superior odds, perhaps not numerically but definitely when it came to knowing the terrain and fighting skills/techniques. All it would take for these guys to put a hurt on us would be simple hit and run tactics and to implement the same fighting techniques of the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as Chechnya. Scary thought, right? The Confederacy held the Union for almost six years with poor arms and equipment simply by motivation (their will to fight for their cause) and knowing the terrain. We took on the greatest army in the world in our fight for independence and won by the same two factors, knowledge of terrain and will to fight. These people are no different.

Here's an interesting question for you. If the Albanians rise up to fight us, do you think we'd find ourselves allying with Serbia to put down the insurgency? Do you think they'd offer their help? Something I'm curious about, a friend of mine asked me that. I'm glad that there is someone out there that is interested in hearing what we have to say and wants to hear our side of the story. I think it needs to be told. Especially if things happen, someone needs to know how this all began and how we were thrown into it. It's kind of funny that I say this as I remember the lines from a Spartan, "Go and tell them that here obedient to their laws we lie". Well, I better get to work. I'll be around for a little bit before the fun begins. Take care, and I hope all is well back home.

Cheers,
An anonymous U.S. soldier in Kosovo
SOurce:juliagorin.com

I know the anonymous might draw some ?s

kleos
07-19-2007, 07:53 AM
I see , that serb propaganda is working full time .
Stop posting bull****

127th Knights
07-19-2007, 07:59 AM
Why do Albanians can get so uppity when you point out their faults to them? ;-)

Kowakian ML
07-19-2007, 08:21 AM
I don't believe that Albanians are stupid enough to even think about war against NATO.

kleos
07-19-2007, 08:42 AM
What faults ? Only lies . Jihadist , islamist fundamentalist , terrorist , same old **** . Albania is known like a muslim country but a small part of population are practicant of muslim religion , we dont give u **** about jihad , or other things like these . As i remember , 8 or 9 years ago , you serbs used to call Nato and USA terrorists and for this reason i dont take seriously your propaganda .
And stop posting bull****.

Nebelwerfer.
07-19-2007, 09:58 AM
SOurce:juliagorin.com

:lol: That figures...

She and her site make me sick. She's full of hate towards every other non-Serb Balkanoid nation. Highly subjective site full of hatred that shouldn't be considered as reliable and objective source.

Bullet28
07-19-2007, 11:30 AM
Oh,the little puppy is scared.....come on for god`s sake Albanians against NATO i don`t think so.Being a NATO soldier in Kosova it`s like vacation there`s only BS about these Jihadi`s or else

CPLHUNTER
07-19-2007, 01:15 PM
Why all the hate???

INAT
07-19-2007, 08:18 PM
Why all the hate???

Well Albanians are working very hard at achieving and end.And the truth in this case does not serve that end very well so what is really happening in Kosovo-Metohija is trying to be kept away from the truth and facts as much as possible thus the hate.And kleos quit telling me what not to post. You don't like it don't read it .Simple

Bosnian_Brawler
07-19-2007, 11:48 PM
All that propaganda will not change the fact that Albanians will get their independence, sooner or later....In about 20 years there will be another war in Kosovo, by that time, Albanian population will probably double...

INAT
07-19-2007, 11:50 PM
Hey Bosanski brawler welcome back from suspension land.:)
Kako ste?

kleos
07-20-2007, 02:44 AM
and kleos quit telling me what not to post

Ok man .You can post all the bull**** that you want .

INAT
07-20-2007, 02:47 AM
Ok man .You can post all the bull**** that you want .


See how easy you are.:)

Atlantic Friend
07-20-2007, 05:12 AM
Is it like the fake letters, supposedly from an anonymous GI in Iraq, that circulated in 2003/2004 ? Because it really does sound like it, honestly.

zg18
07-20-2007, 06:22 AM
All that propaganda will not change the fact that Albanians will get their independence, sooner or later....In about 20 years there will be another war in Kosovo, by that time, Albanian population will probably double...

No,they will not...

Bosnian_Brawler
07-20-2007, 09:11 AM
No,they will not...


Well check trends in last 50 years or so...Kosovo Albanians have the highest natality rate in whole Europe....Half of that time they were opressed, so in the case of Kosovo independency, their natality rate might even increase..

zg18
07-20-2007, 10:54 AM
Well check trends in last 50 years or so...Kosovo Albanians have the highest natality rate in whole Europe....Half of that time they were opressed, so in the case of Kosovo independency, their natality rate might even increase..



Albanian fertility rate droped,Serbs in the 90`s calculated that by 2050 there will be 4.4 million Albanians in Kosovo but...they were using info in the time when Albanians had 60.000+ newly borned babyes.In the period 2000-2006 Albanians were in plus 100.000,you said that they will double in 20 years,folowing that pattern they will max. have 400.000 in plus,that`s far smaller number than 1.8 million.There are other factors,mortality will definatly get biger and high emigtration rates will continue plus the economy will not sustain so many young unemployed people (that will couse poblems),Albanins will again despite that grow for next 30 years but not that fast like in the 60`,70`,80`,they will eventually fall down like other Balkan nations.I think that Kosovo population will start droping when it comes to a population an about 3 million.

Bosnian_Brawler
07-20-2007, 11:30 AM
Albanian fertility rate droped,Serbs in the 90`s calculated that by 2050 there will be 4.4 million Albanians in Kosovo but...they were using info in the time when Albanians had 60.000+ newly borned babyes.In the period 2000-2006 Albanians were in plus 100.000,you said that they will double in 20 years,folowing that pattern they will max. have 400.000 in plus,that`s far smaller number than 1.8 million.There are other factors,mortality will definatly get biger and high emigtration rates will continue plus the economy will not sustain so many young unemployed people (that will couse poblems),Albanins will again despite that grow for next 30 years but not that fast like in the 60`,70`,80`,they will eventually fall down like other Balkan nations.I think that Kosovo population will start droping when it comes to a population an about 3 million.

I said that in ABOUT 20 year and that Albanian population will PROBABLY....So I might be off, but not by much...You are not considering two very important developments, if Kosovo gains independence, it is very likely that not so many Kosovar's will emigrate and some of them will actually go back to Kosovo, or will be forced to go back....Another thing is that for the first time, Albanians in Kosovo will have their own country, with own police, military and education, which will probably cause them to beat their natality rate from 70's and 80's whenever they used to be opressed....just my $.02

zg18
07-20-2007, 11:58 AM
I said that in ABOUT 20 year and that Albanian population will PROBABLY....So I might be off, but not by much...You are not considering two very important developments, if Kosovo gains independence, it is very likely that not so many Kosovar's will emigrate and some of them will actually go back to Kosovo, or will be forced to go back....Another thing is that for the first time, Albanians in Kosovo will have their own country, with own police, military and education, which will probably cause them to beat their natality rate from 70's and 80's whenever they used to be opressed....just my $.02

And that is why will their natality rate fall down,not growth.It is always that dominant ethnic groups have smallest birth rates (like Serbs in SFRJ they fell from 44% to 36% in 1991,or Russians nowdays) .Kosovo is small teritory,economic blackhole of Europe with now 60% of populatian younger than 35 years of age,greath number of population will be like a suicide for Kosovo economy because hundreds of thousands of people will be jobless,that will create a seed of possible conflicts in Kosovo it selph.

Russian_dude
07-20-2007, 01:28 PM
Unfortunately, poor people do nothing else but procreate.

Jaegermeister + Red Bull
07-20-2007, 07:12 PM
Unfortunately, poor people do nothing else but procreate.

Lol, x2 there mate.

Its the only one thing left that you dont need a legislation, a degree, a license, a permit, a ticket or training to perform.