Israelis complain about treatment in US airports

[eskrima]

'I was put in a gas chamber,' says Israeli doctor

US airport security check leaves Dr Dorit Zilberman distraught, after reportedly being humiliated only because of her nationality. 'My family perished in Europe's gas chambers, I never thought 65 years later I would be marked, isolated, and put in a gas chamber'

Itamar Eichner
An Israeli doctor who underwent tight security checks at San Francisco International claims that she was humiliated only because of her nationality.

Dr Dorit Zilberman, a senior urologist at the Chaim Sheba Medical Center at Tel Hashomer who was visiting the United States for the first time for a professional conference, claimed that airport security officials led her to what she called a sort of "gas chamber", where she was sprayed with a strong current of air for two minutes,which caused her great pain


Zilberman filed a complaint with the Foreign Ministry on the matter, and sources at the ministry said they would discuss the subject with the Americans, while adding that the number of Israeli complaints of treatment at American airports has recently been on the rise.

After her handbag passed the standard airport screening, Zilberman was told she had to undergo further security checks and was asked to step aside.

"They took me aside, examined me scrupulously. It was a pretty humiliating situation," Zilberman wrote in her complaint.

The doctor claimed that once she presented her Israeli passport she was told to walk on a different path than the other passengers. "It was a dead end path that led to a kind of corner," she told Ynet.
"I thought I misheard the instructions and I tried to retrace my steps, another woman from the security crew ordered me to stop in a tone as if she was talking to a retard. She told me 'You don't understand, it says here that you should stop and wait for a crew member to approach you.'"

'I have never experienced such humiliation'
Zilberman then asked another crew member why this was being done to her, and if it was because she was Israeli. The crew member simply answered, "I don't know."
Zilberman said she was then lead to a sealed chamber and asked to get in, she was told that she would feel "a flow like in the shower".

"When I walked in, barrages of compressed gas - probably air - were fired at me. Since I am thin, it was very painful. I was then taken out of that 'gas chamber' and taken to another corner where I was asked to take off my shoes, my hand bag was taken from me and my belongings were taken out one by one and scanned along with my shoes in special paper for tracing dangerous substances.
"At that point I started to cry and told the man that in my country I am a respected doctor, and that I had never experienced such a chain of humiliations. He told me that if I didn’t like it, I could call the supervisor."


Zilberman said that in all the countries she had visited, she had never experienced such humiliation just because she was Israeli.
"My family perished in the gas chambers in Europe. I never believed that 65 years later, I would be marked, isolated and taken into a gas chamber."

An examination by Yedioth Ahronoth reporter Aryeh Egozi showed that the so-called "gas chamber" Zilberman spoke of is meant to track traces of explosive materials on passengers' clothing.
Air currents meant to release particles of explosives are sprayed at the passenger, and sensors in the chamber examine these particles.
The examination method was authorized by all relevant bodies in the United States and poses no damage whatsoever to the examinee. European airport authorities are considering applying a similar search method as well.

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3407841,00.html

[ThatHistoryDude]

Ug why is this news its called random screening its not the best security system in the world but boohoo its better than getting your plane hi-jacked isnt it?

[8mm]

'My family perished in Europe's gas chambers



why all jewish have to remind that what happeend to their family?
oh madam german kileld u so u are an angel .so stupid!!

equality to all people

[eskrima]

Ug why is this news its called random screening its not the best security system in the world but boohoo its better than getting your plane hi-jacked isnt it?


it's not random if time after time Israeli citizens are the subject of this procedure which btw can cause damage to people with respiratory problems

[eskrima]

why all jewish have to remind that what happeend to their family?
oh madam german kileld u so u are an angel .so stupid!!

equality to all people



..............................:roll:

[helomech]

Smells like..BULLSH1T!!!!!!!!!Everyday Americans are subjected to the ineptness of TSA,so get over it!



Dr Dorit Zilberman, a senior urologist at the Chaim Sheba Medical Center at Tel Hashomer who was visiting the United States for the first time for a professional conference, claimed that airport security officials led her to what she called a sort of "gas chamber", where she was sprayed with a strong current of air for two minutes,which caused her great pain



Give me break....:slap:

[ThatHistoryDude]

it's not random if time after time Israeli citizens are the subject of this procedure which btw can cause damage to people with respiratory problems

Woah woah this article only mentions in pasing that israelis are complaining about treatment in american airports in larger numbers in the past. Which given tightened security I assure you everyone is complaining more about treatment in airports. So far as I can tell there is no case to be made from the treatment of one old Dr. that israelis are being target by security.


Oh and zomg i went through an explosives detector in Rome 2 years ago they must be targeting Americans!!!!!1!!!!111 evil italians!!!!!

[Hollis]

Smells like..BULLSH1T!!!!!!!!!Everyday Americans are subjected to the ineptness of TSA,so get over it!



Give me break....:slap:


I am on the same page as you.... Seeeeesh... Good reason to drive.

[wicked_hind]

I am on the same page as you.... Seeeeesh... Good reason to drive.

Go Greyhound!!!

[Felix U. Gómez]

On, the contrary, the fact that they picked a little old lady for the screening means that it was a random act. Besides, though I have never been to Israel, I have heard from people that have, that everybody else's screening procedures are kindergarten when compared to theirs, and if you have dark skin it is even worse.

[Ivan le Fou]

I am on the same page as you.... Seeeeesh... Good reason to drive.

A bit difficult when you want to cross an ocean. p-)

[Hollis]

A bit difficult when you want to cross an ocean. p-)



Just have to call Scotty, "Hey Scotty, Beam me up."

or drive real fast.

[Litti]

Someone needs to HTFU.

It´s like that diplomat who went mental, because he had to remove his shoes in the Australian airport. People need to understand that airport security is not out to get you, they are there to ensure that you will reach your destination in one piece.


My family perished in Europe's gas chambers, I never thought 65 years later I would be marked, isolated, and put in a gas chamber'

Oh the drama....

[krasnayaarmiya]

Wah...now she knows an INKLING of how the other half lives... "I'm a respected doctor in my land" what a ch*ckensh*t pr*madonna

[Flamming_Python]

I'm pretty sure everyone else gets the same treatement. Muslims of course probably have it worst, but either way it's just a security measure, no need for Gas Chamber comparisons, etc...

[Calanen]

I'm interested in the compressed air chamber. Maybe they thought the Israeli doctor had the bends...

Seriously, I always get flagged as a security risk (wont say how they flag me) and get put through the ringer - because im a single man, who often pays cash and travels one way (through last minute trips and open ended agendas). But I've never had the compressed air chamber, and I've travelled in and out of the USA a fair bit. Maybe its a new thing...

[Rapier55]

Smells like..BULLSH1T!!!!!!!!!Everyday Americans are subjected to the ineptness of TSA,so get over it!

That "BULLSH1T" also wreaks of $$$$$. How long do you think it will be before the big lawsuit follows? Which, I'm sure is what this is all about. I've experienced the same "humiliation and pain" when traveling to London and Rome. Each time I was forced to remember my father's detention at the California border by Customs agents 45 years ago:cantbeli:.

[JJC]

I remember reading that the Israeli airport wants to switch to the same "gas chamber" because anyone that looks like Habibi gets an extra body cavity searches by Israeli security, and a lot of people complain for the humiliating extra searches as well. So the Gas Chamber is a quic and a less invasive method to make sure no one has firecrackers up their hole.

She reminds of some old farts that always call the local cops S.S. anytime they get a traffic ticket. :cantbeli:

[0rphie]

I am actually amazed by TSA - they screen pilots in the same way as passengers. One pilot in front of me once said that if he wanted to hijack a plane this screening would not have stopped him.

[imohammed2]

^errr....maybe because he is the pilot...? unless he is talking about being a passenger and then hijacking it......

btw, she would have to be paper-thin to be hurt by those barrages of AIR.

[Ordie]

An Israeli doctor who underwent tight security checks at San Francisco International claims

It's not TSA.

More than likely Customs, Immigration and USDA.

TSA has a reputation for high turnover rate. And are exempt from collectively bargain for better wages and benefits.

[helomech]

It's not TSA.

More than likely Customs, Immigration and USDA.

TSA has a reputation for high turnover rate. And are exempt from collectively bargain for better wages and benefits.

Most airports I go through when I travel,the security measures are run by TSA

[Ordie]

Most airports I go through when I travel,the security measures are run by TSA

In international claims?

[JJC]

I know one guy who started working for TSA, and I say God help us, cause they really lack sharp bulbs there.

[helomech]

In international claims?

When arriving in the States' it's Customs,they check your bags if they feel like it,then check my bags through to the airlines,then secondary security with the Keystone Cops-TSA-then off to the gate;when leaving the States,I've only encountered the Keystone Cops,even on international flights

[Flagg]

What cr@p!

The "good" doctor is a whinger and who ever wrote the article couldn't help but throw the "gas chamber" analogy in there.

I just flew on a dozen flight segments in and out of the US and was subjected to increased scrutiny by TSA while there as well as by NZ authorities on my return.

Why?

I have no idea......maybe it's because of my gender/age/travel history/etc. but I go along with it as the cost of doing business in today's environment.

Current threats are not exclusively terrorist related...they also include threats posed by unknowing idiots who could wreak havoc on a nation's ecology/economy as but one example.

After traveling 30,000+ Ks with two under two kids I have absolutely NO sympathy for the doctor.

I wonder what her opinion is of the very necessary and very comprehensive security screenings performed by her nation's carrier El Al?

[Finlander]

The Jew only wants money, so he pulls the holocaust trick with gaschambers... 70 years ago my family died in a nazi gaschamber, 70 years later, Today! I was checked at an US airport, LAWSUIT LAWSUIT LAWSUIT!!! MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!! BLING BLING BLING!!!!

This happens all the time across the globe though, sad how some people wanna make money off their dead relatives, these people are the lowest of the low, I have absolutely no respect for them, NONE!

[Schizo]

The Jew only wants money, so he pulls the holocaust trick with gaschambers.

Now, you see, I'm an Israeli and I think her story is BS, but your post is pure hatred.

DROP DEAD, retard. :cantbeli:

[onefast93z28]

When arriving in the States' it's Customs,they check your bags if they feel like it,then check my bags through to the airlines,then secondary security with the Keystone Cops-TSA-then off to the gate;when leaving the States,I've only encountered the Keystone Cops,even on international flights

Only comeing in does CBP check you, when you leave the country it's just TSA. I work at an good sized international airport and know all the security stuff by heart (I won't say anything about it here) but I know of the "gas chamber" as She calls it. You step into this thing that looks like a normal walk through metal detector and you get a few quick gusts of air. Been through it at some airports,(they actually had everyone go through it) no big deal.

[Danik]

What a broad ass title considering that they have the story of ONE person to back it up.

[SBL]

or drive real fast.

lol..........

[LRPV]

Border controls can be a bitch. Last Time I flew into Israel, El Al security had me for nearly 3 hours. Single male, no accommodatiomn booked, looked like a bag of sh1t (been backpacking)....triggered some sort of profile.

At the time I was told this is nothing personal, please understand we have to be careful. I guess my point is that in this age we should expect the odd delay and inconvenience....I'm happy not to have Hamed the shoe-bomber on my flight.p-)

[KillerBD]

why all jewish have to remind that what happeend to their family?
oh madam german kileld u so u are an angel .so stupid!!

equality to all people

What the Nazis did then was bad, but I agree with your statement. We should all just be equal, no more special treatment for anyone of any race (thats my 2 cents).

[Zarolho]

'I was put in a gas chamber,' says Israeli doctor

US airport security check leaves Dr Dorit Zilberman distraught, after reportedly being humiliated only because of her nationality. 'My family perished in Europe's gas chambers, I never thought 65 years later I would be marked, isolated, and put in a gas chamber'


That sht is getting real old. :bash:

[PaulClift]

"My family perished.....etc etc", yes I sympathise with that, but why is it relevant for some to go on about it when bad things happen, would the same treatment be any less worse if it happened to me, because my family didnt suffer 65 years ago?

[Hollis]

"My family perished.....etc etc", yes I sympathise with that, but why is it relevant for some to go on about it when bad things happen, would the same treatment be any less worse if it happened to me, because my family didnt suffer 65 years ago?


This whole article is a waste of time, read the responses. This is just one person's take of a situation and what happens.

This does more to raise the anti-Jewish flame bait than anything else. It has to be some sardonic comedy. 14 Million people out of 6,500 Million people are so overrunned all the time with chastisements, weird comparisons, and slaughter. One women gets her knickers in a twist and it's news? Seeeeesh

[junglejim]

'I was put in a gas chamber,' says Israeli doctor

US airport security check leaves Dr Dorit Zilberman distraught, after reportedly being humiliated only because of her nationality. 'My family perished in Europe's gas chambers, I never thought 65 years later I would be marked, isolated, and put in a gas chamber'

I would have replied to her "Maam, now you know, nobody escapes the gas chamber"

[AztecMex]

'I was put in a gas chamber,' says Israeli doctor

US airport security check leaves Dr Dorit Zilberman distraught, after reportedly being humiliated only because of her nationality. 'My family perished in Europe's gas chambers, I never thought 65 years later I would be marked, isolated, and put in a gas chamber'

I would have replied to her "Maam, now you know, nobody escapes the gas chamber"
LMAO roflroflrofl
good one, all tho a lil mean lol

[lightfire]

Airport security precautions are getting harder and harder, yet even more stupid and ridiculous. With "everyone from 1 month child to 100 year old lady as a potential terorist threat" and everything from botle of water to a shampoo as an possible explosive device there will soon come the times, when you won't be allowed to take any hand ludgade to the plane, go through security control and X-rays ****, and but all the stuff in the shops after the X rays (sometimes I nearlly feel the conspiracy, I mean, you can't take any water, but you can buy one inside for higher price of cource). The airport security has too much arrogance and powers to ruin any yourney. As for threats, poroblems are far away from solved. An example - any proffesional and determined suicide bomber could bring and detonate his load into a queue at the X-ray or chek-in zones, with crowds of people, equal to those, that could be on the planes. Massive panic and yet even more explosions at the exits-and all thee security measures have gone to hell. And now, we have such events on daily basis, where children,old people etc. are being checked with suspicion. Of cource, one who tries to implement these measures only on muslim people or suspiciouslly looking would soon be called racists, + rights of equality, religion etc., so here we go - bunch of brainwashed have scared are are able to do that every day - the whole air travelers world.

[eskrima]

Border controls can be a bitch. Last Time I flew into Israel, El Al security had me for nearly 3 hours. Single male, no accommodatiomn booked, looked like a bag of sh1t (been backpacking)....triggered some sort of profile.

At the time I was told this is nothing personal, please understand we have to be careful. I guess my point is that in this age we should expect the odd delay and inconvenience....I'm happy not to have Hamed the shoe-bomber on my flight.p-)




"In the Reid case, there were at least five crew members who later told me they had a suspicious feeling about Reid when he boarded the aircraft. The technology that was supposed to have dealt with the threat failed to do so. The clear conclusion from that is that when you [a terrorist] have to overcome a certain technological screening process, you can find a way to overcome it, but human behavior is where you will fail. Because a person carrying out a major terrorist attack that will probably end his life as well as the lives of many others cannot be in a sane state of mind. Even people who can control their behavior still fail to do so frequently. Crew members thought Reid looked suspicious."



this guy suspicious? not a chancerofl

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1730000/images/_1731568_reid2_ap300.jpg

[Hukatus]

.......claimed that airport security officials led her to what she called a sort of "gas chamber", where she was sprayed with a strong current of air for two minutes,which caused her great pain.just a load of bullsh*t.

[TriggerHappy]

Spare me the drama (gas chamber).
One Israeli had a bad time in a security check in US so what??? What should we do for all those Palestinians that have to go through all kind of stuff in israeli checkpoints in daily basis? I don't see a reason for a thread dedicated to this incident if it really happened like the doctor described.

[Sevryn]

.......claimed that airport security officials led her to what she called a sort of "gas chamber", where she was sprayed with a strong current of air for two minutes,which caused her great pain.

Why are Jews complaining about security at an US airport? I am not an expert on these matters but i am pretty sure Jews employ tactics that are 100X worse in Israel when it comes to their secruity.

Jew was led to a room with an air conditioner and all of a sudden that room becomes a gas chamer?

[LEGEND]

Why are Jews complaining about security at an US airport? I am not an expert on these matters but i am pretty sure Jews employ tactics that are 100X worse in Israel when it comes to their secruity.

She was led to a room with an air conditioner and all of a sudden that room becomes a gas chamer?

Jews? one person complained, dont label everyone, just like behavior of one pole does not mean all poles behave the same way, does it?

[Sevryn]

Jews? one person complained, dont label everyone, just like behavior of one pole does not mean all poles behave the same way, does it?

lol don't blame me it's not my fault, i am innocent Ze Germans made me do it.

Honest.

[eskrima]

Jews? one person complained, dont label everyone, just like behavior of one pole does not mean all poles behave the same way, does it?



'' while adding that the number of Israeli complaints of treatment at American airports has recently been on the rise.''

[LEGEND]

^

How would you describe americans by your logic then? Are americans republican or democrat? Gun lovers or gun opponents? Pro war or against the war?

So even if true that number of complaints has been on the rise (and we dont know what the rise is, maybe someone else complained so it made it two) ? Not all jews are israelis, and then not all israelis complain.

[eskrima]

^

How would you describe americans by your logic then? Are americans republican or democrat? Gun lovers or gun opponents? Pro war or against the war?


i can't follow you

[LEGEND]

i can't follow you

I was telling Sevryn that its not appropriate to say that all jews complain because one complained. You started adding weight to his original statement by providing the quote meaning that you agree that its all jews in general complain basing your judgment on this incident. Even in this thread jews and israelis agreed that its an isolated incident and that such behavior is not condoned.

So if you label large of group of people by a label of one, i' am just curious how do you describe large groups when their actions are pretty evenly split or beliefs divided (ie Americans-democrat/republican)

In case you dont follow this I'm just trying to say that you cant say that all Americans are Republican because you've met one who said he is.

[deadtired]

He's saying that there's a difference between talking about Israelis (people of a certain nationality) and talking about Jews (people of a certain ethnic/religious group).

EDIT: Or, judging by the above post, that's not what he's saying. My bad.:cantbeli:

[Durandal]

So wait, let me get this straight.

She stepped into a booth that puffed air onto her...a booth that is pretty open...to try to sample possible explosive traces and she compares it to the gas chamber?

Sorry for you inconvenience you whining melodramatic cry baby.

[California Joe]

I'm sending her name to Macs. Case closed.


Stupid drama queen bitch.

[eskrima]

''Zilberman filed a complaint with the Foreign Ministry on the matter, and sources at the ministry said they would discuss the subject with the Americans, while adding that the number of Israeli complaints of treatment at American airports has recently been on the rise. ''




the Israeli paper is quite clear. Means Israeli citizens not Jews in general and a number of incidents-how many doesn't say.

[Bia]

Israelis complain

LMAO what's new.

[Schizo]

LMAO what's new.

Nice flame bait. Thank your for your contribution.

[deagle]

wow, that lady needs to get a reality check. something is definitely wrong with her judgement/paranoia. how can she say she was discriminated against ? it was a routine screening, and she just didn't know the process. she thinks she was "humiliated", but i have to lol a bit at that.

[LRPV]

LMAO what's new.

You just went downhill in my estimation. I wonder if I would get infracted if I sledged your country? :slap:

[Will938]

I've been pulled aside to check my stuff for explosives, they've wanded my balls, went through several x-ray machines in for the same flight. And I've had idle threats spouted at me by TSA employees, I choose not to fly anymore unless absolutely necessary. If the airlines want to put up with this crap, then so be it. I hate this chicken **** treatment so I don't fly, if I need to get somewhere fast I'll suck it up. Don't like it? Don't support the airlines with your business.

[Pars]

Same here Will938 (http://militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=10692). I've gotten tired of the ****ty treatment, so unless I need to travel long distances, I travel by train. Makes it a whole lot less stressful.

[~Berdan]

She should thank someone that she didn't landed on less friendly airports around the globe.I had to use half of my money in an airport to pay bribe to every little prick clerk just to get things running,in visit back home.Really not a nice experience to a foreigner visiting there for the first time.They can really make life misserable if you don't get the hint of giving money to every little clerk.

Anyway,why is that a news?And second,why is the obnoxious attitude from some forum members here?Yes,perhaps the woman is stupid bitch,why being discusting over it?Methodic extermination of jews happened not so long ago to forget...

[Wodan]

lol don't blame me it's not my fault, i am innocent Ze Germans made me do it.

Honest.

sorry, now I feel so guilty, guess you will demand reperations for that, right?

After all your grandpas dog died in an car accident with german forces in eastern poland...

[IDF-Godzilla]

why all jewish have to remind that what happeend to their family?
oh madam german kileld u so u are an angel .so stupid!!

equality to all people
Ok, i promise i will never ever mention it again, in fact, i would do you a favor!
I will forget that it ever happened!!! :D






Dumbass...:bash: