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Clearday-TRForce
07-25-2007, 05:45 AM
Sunday's elections give a fresh opportunity to fix a terrible collapse in bilateral ties.
By Graham Allison

24.07.2007

Cambridge, Mass. - Imagine a stable, prosperous, secular Muslim democracy in the Middle East. The dream of just such an outcome was the worthiest, albeit least likely, of President Bush's stated aspirations for the war in Iraq.

Unfortunately, the way in which the administration has pursued this objective has damaged what remains the best hope for a successful moderate Muslim democracy in the region: Turkey.

Since the founding of the modern republic more than eight decades ago, Turkey has charted a long and uneven journey toward democracy. A responsible member of the NATO alliance, it was among America's most dependable and effective allies in a turbulent region.

The Pew Research Center poll of 2000 found that 52 percent of Turks held a favorable view of America, a higher percent than any country in the region other than Israel.

Since then, things seem to have gone terribly wrong. The 2007 Pew poll found US favorability in Turkey has plummeted to 9 percent. Even more remarkable, Turks now see the US as the single biggest threat to their nation's security. Far from bolstering what could be an exemplar for the region, the Bush administration is responsible for a catastrophic collapse in bilateral relations.

America's unpopularity stems from Turks' perception that US policies are making their country more insecure at a time of great insecurity. As it modernizes to meet the political and economic criteria for joining the European Union (EU), Turkey has undertaken wrenching reforms. Rather than dampening factors that could fuel religious extremism and ethnic separatism, the policies of the US and some EU member countries have served to accentuate them.

Ironically, the schism in US-Turkish relations took place as a result of democracy at work. In March 2003, with 90 percent of the Turkish public opposed to the US invasion of Iraq, parliament voted down a measure allowing US forces to use Turkey's border with Iraq as a northern front in the invasion.

American officials suddenly found democracy an inconvenient obstacle. A former US ambassador to Turkey questioned Turkey's "democratic credentials," arguing that the government was pandering to the forces of public opinion, rather than providing enlightened leadership to its citizens.

Stung by Turkey's rejection, the Bush administration conducted the war in Iraq with no regard for Turkey's interests. A US-backed, autonomous, and increasingly emboldened Kurdistan Regional Government poses an existential threat to nationalists in Turkey. Failure to address the reality of a sanctuary in Iraqi Kurdistan for members of the PKK – a Turkish-Kurdish terrorist group – enrages even moderate Turks.

Imagine American reactions if terrorists were exploding bombs in American cities and then slipping across the border to sanctuaries in northern Mexico. Should a referendum on the future status of oil-rich Kirkuk place it under the jurisdiction of the Kurdistan Regional Government, it is plausible that Turkey would finally act on its threat to invade northern Iraq.

All this was avoidable – and even now remains reparable. Were the US to demonstrate a readiness to address real threats to Turkey's interests, Turkey could play a constructive role in Iraqi Kurdistan, while improving the well-being of its own Kurdish-populated southeast.

Turks are already heavily invested in Iraqi Kurdistan's economic development, with more than 300 Turkish companies operating in the region. Turkish pipelines could provide Kurds an opportunity to export oil to international markets. A working bargain between the Kurds and Turkey is not beyond the reach of effective US leadership.

Unfortunately, policymakers in Washington seem intent on letting an important opportunity fester until it becomes a crisis.

The White House's strategic myopia was in full display during Turkey's constitutional crisis in April.

The crisis began when Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan nominated Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul for the presidency. Mr. Gul, like Mr. Erdogan, is a member of the Islamic-inspired AK party. His Islamist past and head-scarf-wearing wife raised fears of conservative Muslim dominance and triggered enormous backlash from Turkey's secular establishment.

It also brought ominous warnings from the military, which in Turkey's democracy enjoys a special status as guardian of the state, a role it exercised in overthrowing four earlier elected governments. Turkey's democrats found Washington's silence during this turmoil deafening.

To defuse the crisis, Erdogan moved to early general elections. Following the AK's solid election victory this weekend, the US should undertake a major diplomatic initiative to resuscitate US-Turkish relations.

This should begin with applause for Turkey's successful demonstration of what is possible in modernizing a moderate, secular Muslim democracy. It should include renewed advocacy for Turkish membership in the EU. But most important, it should engage Turkey and the Kurdistan Regional Government in specific steps to stop cross-border terrorist attacks from Kurdistan.

Moreover, this can be done without sacrificing other regional priorities. Even as Mr. Bush's hopes for Iraq founder, he still has an opportunity to support a credible counter-narrative to the rhetoric of radical Islamist groups across the region.

• Graham Allison is director of the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government and author of "Nuclear Terrorism: The Ultimate Preventable Catastrophe."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0724/p09s01-coop.html?page=1


Special thanks to Mr Graham Allison for his well-balanced and wise article.What I want to say something that I cant back it, Turkey is not a muslim democratic country, we havent called ourselves with religion background. Turkey is a secular democratic country, not christian,not muslim,not jewish...etc. But of course %99,9 population is muslim of this country.



regards,
CDTRF

Laworkerbee
07-25-2007, 12:14 PM
Come here Turkey :petting:

FutureGrunt
07-25-2007, 06:33 PM
Turkey should be kicked out of the NATO. Imagine Britain would not permit the US to open the Second Front during WWII.

4X4Driver
07-25-2007, 07:37 PM
Turkey should be kicked out of the NATO. Imagine Britain would not permit the US to open the Second Front during WWII.

Hmm..you must have been thinking that attacking Iraq was a NATO operation all along. It wasn't.

OTOH, Turkey is in Afghanistan as a part of NATO operation and been in the all NATO ops in the Balkans.

Oh...almost forgot Somalia operation.

But I agree with you..Turkey should get out of NATO.

Laworkerbee
07-25-2007, 08:01 PM
Turkey should be kicked out of the NATO. Imagine Britain would not permit the US to open the Second Front during WWII.

First off O.I.F. was not a NATO operation so NATO has nothing to do with it.

Secondly their government voted on the issue and it went the other way, deal with it.

NewsMan
07-25-2007, 09:13 PM
My view is that Turkey , egypt and Jordan are vital allies with relationships that need to be nurtured. These countries lead the way in bridging the differences between the western and Islamic worlds. By showing a desire to not to grow closer, western countries risk proving a perceived point within the Muslim world that will only continue leading the world into a war between religions.

MichaelF
07-25-2007, 09:46 PM
Turkey should be kicked out of the NATO. Imagine Britain would not permit the US to open the Second Front during WWII.

You are....ungood at analogies.

socom6
07-25-2007, 10:03 PM
Well the Turkish foreign minister has insinuated that the US has supplied the PKK with US made weapons and this insinuation has been faithfully propagated by Turkish members of these forums.

With a important NATO ally making inflammatory accusations like these US Turkey relations will be lukewarm at best. At least the Turks can wait on a pliant US President to come to the White House who will be more to their liking.

m.i.t
07-27-2007, 02:57 AM
Turkey should be kicked out of the NATO. Imagine Britain would not permit the US to open the Second Front during WWII.


l agree ...as lm Turkısh l hope Turkey will quit both NATO AND cadidate membership of EU.

unfortunatley some allies from NATO supports and protects our enemies..
l mean word enemies is teror groups...
many terorist groups have full freedom Holland Belgium Greece Denmark etc. since 1980 s ...E.G. some bomb attackers had been trained in terorist camps in HOLLAND..YES ...actually Holland police arrested many of them...Terorıst leader A. Ocalan had took his fake cyprus passport from Greece inteligence...
there are still huge teroristic activations in Europe...

so also there is no sense and no loyalty among the some members... so Turkey should quıt from nato as much as possible...

theholeinthedonut
07-27-2007, 03:21 AM
l agree ...as lm Turkısh l hope Turkey will quit both NATO AND cadidate membership of EU.

unfortunatley some allies from NATO supports and protects our enemies..
l mean word enemies is teror groups...
many terorist groups have full freedom Holland Belgium Greece Denmark etc. since 1980 s ...E.G. some bomb attackers had been trained in terorist camps in HOLLAND..YES ...actually Holland police arrested many of them...Terorıst leader A. Ocalan had took his fake cyprus passport from Greece inteligence...
there are still huge teroristic activations in Europe...

so also there is no sense and no loyalty among the some members... so Turkey should quıt from nato as much as possible...

So you propose to leave Nato and join the EU, in order to punish Holland, Denmark, Belgium and Greece???!!!!!
Use this before posting:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Usborne-Childrens-Picture-Atlas/dp/0746047134/ref=sr_1_12/203-7549492-3145528?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1185520830&sr=1-12

Edit: My reading comprehension is quite bad this morning! Sorry! Do you mean to cancel the application for Eu-Membership or do you mean to apply for EU-Membership, it's not that clear then way you put it.

m.i.t
07-27-2007, 04:56 AM
So you propose to leave Nato and join the EU, in order to punish Holland, Denmark, Belgium and Greece???!!!!!
Use this before posting:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Usborne-Childrens-Picture-Atlas/dp/0746047134/ref=sr_1_12/203-7549492-3145528?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1185520830&sr=1-12

Edit: My reading comprehension is quite bad this morning! Sorry! Do you mean to cancel the application for Eu-Membership or do you mean to apply for EU-Membership, it's not that clear then way you put it.

1. l absoultely didint mean any revenge or any punishing for any country ....

l clealrly said there is no ally between Turkey and these countries..
so to quıt is better than to be member...

2. to give up application for EU membership by Turkey...it could be my fault...sorry...

seventy6er
07-27-2007, 05:26 AM
l agree ...as lm Turkısh l hope Turkey will quit both NATO AND cadidate membership of EU.


http://www.datzietergoeduit.nl/photogallery/zaal-applaus.jpg

theholeinthedonut
07-27-2007, 05:27 AM
1. l absoultely didint mean any revenge or any punishing for any country ....

l clealrly said there is no ally between Turkey and these countries..
so to quıt is better than to be member...

2. to give up application for EU membership by Turkey...it could be my fault...sorry...

Ok misunderstood you sry

4X4Driver
07-27-2007, 06:40 AM
l agree ...as lm Turkısh l hope Turkey will quit both NATO AND cadidate membership of EU.

+1

...and should join Shanghai Cooperation Organisation-(SCO)

Looking at it's location and it's central Asian roots, Turkey should be among them. Russia has invited Turkey (non- officially) several times already.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) is an intergovernmental (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental) organisation which was founded on June 14 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_14), 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001) by the leaders of the China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China), Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia), Kazakhstan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan), Kyrgyzstan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyzstan), Tajikistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajikistan) and Uzbekistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbekistan). Except for Uzbekistan, the other countries had been members of the Shanghai Five; after the inclusion of Uzbekistan in 2001, the members renamed the organisation. Though not a military alliance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_alliance), many look to this organisation as a counter to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Treaty_Organisation) (NATO).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organization

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/SCO_Map.png/250px-SCO_Map.png