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Nebelwerfer.
07-26-2007, 01:06 PM
Aviator has a blast from a wartime past

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When Lee Lamar sat Friday behind the controls of a vintage B-24 Liberator bomber, it was as if nearly 63 years had faded away.
Lamar of Mission recalls Nov. 18, 1944, with perfect clarity. The four-engine B-24 he co-piloted during World War II had been gunned down over what was then northern Italy.
“They (the Germans) kept hitting us and hitting us,” Lamar said. “It was hard to control with just two right engines. We lost altitude from 20,000 to 5,000 feet.”
The B-24’s two left engines had been shot out. The plane had lost its hydraulics. Lamar and nine other crew members spent the next 30 minutes trying to nudge the plane back to Allied territory in southern Italy, but they didn’t make it.
The men parachuted shortly before the plane crashed in what is now Croatia. Everyone survived — seven escaped and three were captured, including Lamar.
Fast forward to today.
Lamar, now 86, will return to the crash site next month to meet with an archaeologist who discovered the wreckage and tracked down Lamar through the Internet.
Accompanying the veteran will be Park University professor Dennis Okerstrom, who will film the excavation and create a documentary about Lamar’s last mission. The objective was to destroy a German airfield so fighter planes couldn’t take off. Lamar and his comrades succeeded.
Okerstrom called World War II an “extraordinary” time when young men were called into combat. And Lamar, a mere 23 years old when he was shot down, earned the nickname “Pappy” because he was the oldest on board. Other crew members were barely out of adolescence — 17-, 18- and 19-year-olds, Okerstrom said.
“He was one of several million who had to do the horrible time,” Okerstrom said.
Lamar said three other crewmates are still living, but their deteriorating health will prevent them from returning to Croatia.
The bomber Lamar briefly flew Friday is the last flying B-24 in the world, said Hunter Chaney, spokesman for The Collings Foundation, which works to educate the public about World War II through aircraft shows.
The foundation arranged for Lamar to take the helm during a flight from Fort Collins, Colo., to Kansas City. The foundation has the B-24 and a B-17 bomber on display at the Wheeler Downtown Airport until Monday.
“Most of these World War II veterans are in the mid- to late-80s,” Chaney said. “One of our primary objectives is to remind people what these fellows did in the war.”
After his three-hour trip Friday, Lamar was tired, giddy and emotional. He was dressed in a replica leather flight jacket and cap in 90-degree weather. A reporter asked Lamar when he last had flown a B-24.
“Nov. 18, 1944,” he responded as tears welled in his eyes.
Then, he straightened up and faced reporters calmly. He said he had forgotten how much strength it required to control the plane. And the plane’s instrument panel was much like he remembered.
“I enjoyed it,” he said. “It’s an opportunity that a lot people don’t get.”
Regarding the trip to Croatia, Lamar said he hoped to find something he left behind.

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“I buried a perfectly good parachute over at the intersection of two stone walls,” he said, referring to the military policy of hiding gear.
Lamar, Okerstrom, their families and several Park University students will depart Aug. 3 for Croatia.
Source (http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/180572.html)

Local guy(Croat) found that Liberator that crashlanded near village Marcana in Istria, Croatia so he did research about the crew of that bird. It took him several months to find them and he invited them to visit Croatia and that crashsite. Also, Lee Lamar will be special guest of Croatian Ministry of Defence and will visit military airfield in Pula to meet with the pilots and to see Croatian planes and equipment.

jdslow300
07-26-2007, 03:50 PM
some story, good read, i had thought there were two flyable b-24s though, one J model and one LB-30

KEEPER0311
07-26-2007, 05:06 PM
Great story, I'm glad to hear he got a chance to fly a bird once again, must been like a kid in a candy shop.

timetraveller
07-26-2007, 05:07 PM
That Story would make a good film .

Flagg
07-27-2007, 12:41 AM
23 years old and he was called "Pappy"....wow

I've got socks more than 23 years old.

I wonder if this involved the raid on Ploesti in Romania??

If I remember correctly from reading about it as a kid the raid had more action than the Rebels blowing up the Death Star.

Nebelwerfer.
07-27-2007, 02:28 AM
I wonder if this involved the raid on Ploesti in Romania??


According to croatian news site Jutarnji.hr (http://www.jutarnji.hr/clanak/art-2007,7,12,,82025.jl) , targets were airfields in Germany, and this Liberator, after bombing Udine in Italy got hit first time by german AA defence, then got hit again by german AA defence, but this time around islands Brijuni and then crashlanded near Marcana.

If someone is interested, here's a map (http://www.sucuraj.com/karte/jadran.jpg) of croatian coast. Brijuni national park is near Pula city which lies on that northern peninsula. Marcana is just 30 km northeast from Pula.

zonk
07-29-2007, 07:25 PM
now thats a good story right there....wish we had more stories like that

Nebelwerfer.
08-07-2007, 09:23 AM
Lee Lamar came to Croatia so here's a short translation...

I'm very happy and I thank Luka that he found and invited me to Croatia. I'm happy that I'm going to visit the place where my plane has crashed, obviously happy but full of energy said vital 86 year old american pilot Lee Lamar who is from today in Pula.

Lee Lamar's plane, bomber B-24 Liberator was shot down on November 8th, 1944 above Marcana, Istria, Croatia, and his reaminings were found in 2005 while building new gas pipes between cities of Pula nad Karlovac. Luka Bekić, chief of conservation office of Croatian Air Force, after long research discovered identity of crashed Liberator and made a contact with surviving member of the crew. Lamar, after Bekić contacted him, was thrilled with opportunity to visit his Liberator's crashsite after 63 years and he wasn't hiding that joy also today.

Lamar was also welcomed by the representatives of Istrian Partisans. Our intelligence agency told to us, that if we crash land somewhere in the area of Yugoslavia, we should search for the help from the Partisans. Only Partisans will save you - they repeated to us, and I am really grateful to them for saving part of my crew.

In the base of Croatian Air Force, Lee Lamar was greeted by the pilots, and he also examined the planes. Vital 86 year old tried the MiG-21 simulator and piloted, and entering real MiG-21 was not a problem for him at all.

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