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hist2004
07-26-2007, 03:42 PM
Hillary Clinton and the Dangers of Hubris

Are the Democrats set to give us another imperial president?

Steve Chapman | July 26, 2007

During the Democratic debate in South Carolina, I heard something I never expected to hear: Hillary Clinton coming out against U.S. military intervention.

At least I think she was coming out against U.S. military intervention. Asked if U.S. troops should be sent to Darfur, the New York senator made a valiant effort to dodge the question by declaiming about sanctions, divestment and UN peacekeepers. But when pressed, "How about American troops on the ground?" she finally said, a bit awkwardly, "American ground troops I don't think belong in Darfur at this time."

But don't bet that she'll stick to that position if she's elected. It goes against type. Clinton favored intervention in Haiti in 1994. She favored intervention in Bosnia in 1995. She favored intervention in Kosovo in 1999. As first lady, Clinton said, "I am very pleased that this president and administration have made democracy one of the centerpieces of our foreign policy." Before the Kosovo war, she phoned Bill from Africa and, she recalled later, "I urged him to bomb."

Among her critics, Clinton is known for a mother-knows-best domestic policy that relies on overbearing interference from Washington to remake the landscape to her specifications. The flip side is a mother-knows-best foreign policy that relies on overbearing interference from Washington to remake the landscape to her specifications.

Democrats hope that when it comes to international affairs, Clinton would represent a big change from George W. Bush. Republicans harbor that fear. In truth, this is one realm where the two are more alike than different. It's no accident that she voted for the resolution authorizing the president to invade Iraq. And it's no mystery that she was slow to admit the war was failing.

She didn't support the war because she was hoodwinked by Bush. She didn't do it for strictly political reasons. She supported it because of her conception of America's proper role in the world—which combines a thirst for altruistic missions with a faith in the value of military force to get what you want. Those same impulses, of course, motivated the neoconservatives who urged Bush to go into Iraq.

On the morning after the South Carolina debate, the Clinton campaign trotted out former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright to gush about the senator's declaration that she would not meet with various dictators "until we know better what the way forward would be." Said Albright, "She gave a very sophisticated answer that showed her understanding of the diplomatic process."

Being praised for your diplomatic sophistication by Madeleine Albright is like being complimented on your sense of humor by John Kerry. Albright is the renowned diplomat who helped the Clinton administration blunder its way into an 11-week aerial war in Kosovo. Albright was confident that Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic would cave at the first whiff of gunpowder, and was shocked when he didn't.

That misjudgment had disastrous consequences. The Serbs responded not by capitulating but by greatly escalating their war on Kosovo's ethnic Albanians. Some 10,000 of them died, and more than a million were forced from their homes. If the war was a success, it was a very mixed one. The same could be said about Bosnia and Haiti, where the results fell far short of our intentions.
Like Iraq, the Kosovo war demonstrated the folly of taking military action without preparing for the worst. Both also showed the dangers of unchecked hubris.

But those are not lessons Clinton has necessarily absorbed. When she ran for the Senate in 2000, she mocked Republicans (such as Caspar Weinberger and Colin Powell) who think "we should intervene with force only when we face splendid little wars that we surely can win, preferably by overwhelming force in a relatively short period of time." On the contrary, she said, we "should not ever shy away from the hard task if it is the right one."

As Michael Crowley of The New Republic has noted, she had another reason for supporting Bush on Iraq. "I'm a strong believer in executive authority," she said in 2003. "I wish that, when my husband was president, people in Congress had been more willing to recognize presidential authority."

There you have it. A Hillary Clinton presidency promises to unite Madeleine Albright's zeal for using bombs in pursuit of liberal ideals with **** Cheney's vision of the president as emperor. Won't that be fun?

Source: (http://reason.com/news/show/121601.html)

Hist2004

Lazy Lob
07-26-2007, 03:54 PM
An excellent title. Hubris and the Hillary go hand in hand, duplicitous doesn’t do her justice.

vryhpyammoadded
07-26-2007, 09:21 PM
I eagerly await the reception she’s going to get when she dons the purple and strolls triumphant into the capital feeling all mandated and what not, America’s first lady Caesar. Queue the psycho shriek, shriek knifing music. I hope she enjoys all the rosy lips she’ll find in her back and the few in the front, side, top etc… and you Nancy?

And people think today’s tragic political comedy is over the top. I predict they ain’t seen nuthin yet till Hilary gets power. When her time comes "they" won’t just fleece us furry little sheep no, they’ll hang us from hooks and slaughter us for meat to get them through the mess thats coming.

Save the middle class my ass…

martinexsquaddie
07-27-2007, 03:38 AM
pot kettle color check over :(

gaijinsamurai
07-27-2007, 11:07 AM
I see Diane Feinstien has given Hillery her endorsement.
Big surprise.

Rictor
07-27-2007, 12:16 PM
Are the Democrats set to give us another imperial president?


Yes. Congratulations Steve Chapman, you know now what every three year-old chiild outside of the United States knows. But first, I'm afraid that I have some bad news about the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus..

Alpha13
07-27-2007, 12:16 PM
I love these right wing articles, they are just as funny as left wing ones.
/sarcasm Thank God for our peace loving Government right now, otherwise our troops would've be stretched in various unending conflicts.... sarcasm/

budgie
07-28-2007, 07:35 PM
Hilary might not have the gift of the gab or enjoy popular support but she couldn't possibly do a poorer job than Bush. That retard's name will be synonymous with incompetency forever. Get used it cuz it's already proven

gaijinsamurai
07-29-2007, 12:58 AM
I agree with you, Budgie, but as a Democrat, I'm worried that she'll really screw things up for us in the next election. The GOP doesn't seem to be able to offer any candidates who have a good shot at being elected, and I'd like to see Obama (if he moderates his position on private gun ownership) or Bill Richardson occupy the White House. I'm even warming up to John Edwards.
But Hillary would be bad for America and bad for the Democratic Party.