What makes us human?

[Jack Mehoff]

So what makes a human a human? How do we distinguish our consciousness from any other sort? Will there ever be a definition that all people can accept?

[born_to_kill]

the aility to jack off!

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw

my head hurts

[EvanL]

Well. We have brains that allow us to sort out emotions and other feelings. We have opposable thumbs.
The closest relative to us humans is the oranguatang. They may not look anything like us, but they have similar behavioural traits.
I believe there are theo nly other mammal besides humans that have *** for pleasure.

[Ratamacue]

Well. We have brains that allow us to sort out emotions and other feelings. We have opposable thumbs.
The closest relative to us humans is the oranguatang. They may not look anything like us, but they have similar behavioural traits.
I believe there are theo nly other mammal besides humans that have *** for pleasure.

To my knowledge, dolphins also have *** for pleasure and are among the most intelligent and empathic animals out there.

[James]

So what makes a human a human? How do we distinguish our consciousness from any other sort? Will there ever be a definition that all people can accept?

Genetically, everyone who might claim to be a human these days should be a homo sapiens. As for consciousness, I don't know. My personal beliefs are Crhistian, but, that said, I know it is not a definition everyone can accept.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Scientists and philosophers are still arguing over this – I doubt any of the silly buggers here have the definitive answer.

[flickme]

Ahhhh yes, but did the dolphin invent this!
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:uxXPLMLs0nkJ:www.mega-humor.com/humorpages/inventions/jap6%255B1%255D.jpg
It is our extreme ingenius thinking that seperates us from other animals. Only a human could think of such a thing. I mean, its exquisit.

[mack pl]

Well. We have brains that allow us to sort out emotions and other feelings. We have opposable thumbs.
The closest relative to us humans is the oranguatang. They may not look anything like us, but they have similar behavioural traits.
I believe there are theo nly other mammal besides humans that have *** for pleasure.

To my knowledge, dolphins also have *** for pleasure and are among the most intelligent and empathic animals out there.Bonobo monkeys have *** for plesaure too :)

[Herrmannek]

Well. We have brains that allow us to sort out emotions and other feelings. We have opposable thumbs.
The closest relative to us humans is the oranguatang. They may not look anything like us, but they have similar behavioural traits.
I believe there are theo nly other mammal besides humans that have *** for pleasure.

To my knowledge, dolphins also have *** for pleasure and are among the most intelligent and empathic animals out there.Bonobo monkeys have *** for plesaure too :)
Even for money(grapes and oranges)

[mack pl]

Well. We have brains that allow us to sort out emotions and other feelings. We have opposable thumbs.
The closest relative to us humans is the oranguatang. They may not look anything like us, but they have similar behavioural traits.
I believe there are theo nly other mammal besides humans that have *** for pleasure.

To my knowledge, dolphins also have *** for pleasure and are among the most intelligent and empathic animals out there.Bonobo monkeys have *** for plesaure too :)
Even for money(grapes and oranges)Monkey whore :cantbeli:

[weedman]

Bonobo monkeys have *** for plesaure too :)We talked in school about this...

They're even doing it with their children, homo******ly and by themselves.

[mack pl]

Bonobo monkeys have *** for plesaure too :)We talked in school about this...

They're even doing it with their children, homo******ly and by themselves.Yeah, i saw that in Animal Planet :| ****, they are very similar to humans :|

[king_nothing100]

Humans don't adapt to the environment we change it, other animals adapt to it.

[California Joe]

Apparently it's the ability to call out fellow humans gay.

[Herrmannek]

Apparently it's the ability to call out fellow humans gay.

You are gay ...You se monkeys can do that too :)

[Kenshin]

Its not *** that we can distinguish ourselves from them critters. We kill our own for a 1001 reasons. Animals kill for reasons you can count on your fingers.

[Kriz]

The ability to invest time and effort into things that don't immediately fullfill our direct desires. For example monkeys can use a stick to get a bannana but humans can do much more. They can plant seeds and wait for it to grow then harvest.

So apart from designing tools and stuff, there ain't really a difference.

[mustamato]

What makes us humans? As Carl von Linné put it: homo sapiens sapiens

[Javehn]

homo sapiens


And only one word on it goes for you , Musti : Homo :lol:

[weedman]

And only one word on it goes for you , Musti : Homo :lol:

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/germ/courses/german201/friedrich/homosexeull.gif

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/germ/courses/german201/friedrich/judenhomo.gif

I hope you know what it is and what I mean...

[UoUo]

And only one word on it goes for you , Musti : Homo :lol:

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/germ/courses/german201/friedrich/homosexeull.gif

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/germ/courses/german201/friedrich/judenhomo.gif

I hope you know what it is and what I mean...

Lame....

[Javehn]

And only one word on it goes for you , Musti : Homo :lol:

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/germ/courses/german201/friedrich/homosexeull.gif

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/germ/courses/german201/friedrich/judenhomo.gif

I hope you know what it is and what I mean...

WTF is the connection here ? I going to set Mustamato on fire because he is puff eater ? I am doing a little joking with him , there is a big ****ing difference !!!!!!

Next time you decide to post such a thing , think very very good what you are posting .

[weedman]

I'm sick of the homophobia in this forum.

And it makes me personally sad to see a Israeli doing this, who is supposed to have learned by history of being treated badly and being persecuted just because of his look, belief, religion or race. :|

[Javehn]

I'm sick of the homophobia in this forum.

And it makes me personally sad to see a Israeli doing this, who is supposed to have learned by history of being treated badly and being persecuted just because of his look, belief, religion or race. :|

Did you read Mustamato posts ? You know he likes to put some fuel in the fire from time to time . He made me ungry more then once. I am not going in my home town , and yelling , burn the gays . It's my way to joke on him . Joke . I don't like this way of life , but there is nothing i can do against it , no ? You basicly saying (even if that's not what you ment) , that i could kill gays just because they are . You noticed , that it's the thing you accusing me ?
Can you find a post where i said , "Burn the gays" ? Or you can find my posts , where i joke on Mustamato , that he is a gay (and i even said , that it's his own bussiness that he is a puff eater ) .

So , next time choose more carefully your thoughts .

[weedman]

Did you read Mustamato posts ? You know he likes to put some fuel in the fire from time to time . He made me ungry more then once.
I understand when you don't like people who have other point of views and getting on your nerves with this, but that's life.



It's my way to joke on him . Joke . I don't like this way of life , but there is nothing i can do against it , no ?
As I tried to say, I regret the missing tolerance, which does not implement you have to like gays.
You ever thought about the insulting trace of your "joke" for people, who're really gay (not, I'm not, btw)?


You basicly saying (even if that's not what you ment) , that i could kill gays just because they are . You noticed , that it's the thing you accusing me ?
Need to admit that my way to open your eyes was a bit hazardous and I did not want to personate you as "a homo killer", but don't you see whom you are really offending with your "joke"?




So , next time choose more carefully your thoughts .I'm sick of this statement. Why don't you read my points more carefully so I don't have to fix all your false and arbitrary assumptions?

[citizen-k]

We are talking about humans/humanity here, what dows Mustamato got to do with it, gay or not? :cantbeli:

[Kenshin]

Man, and I thought this was going to be kewl thread with a prospect of a worthwhile philosphical discussion.... sometimes men should always make sure to put their brains above their *****.

[weedman]

We are talking about humans/humanity here, what dows Mustamato got to do with it, gay or not? :cantbeli:Better ask Javehn, he started it. :lol:

[Javehn]

I understand when you don't like people who have other point of views and getting on your nerves with this, but that's life.

So , exactly how he is getting on my nerves , i am getting on his . This is the life , se la via . If i would insult someone , then i would appologise to him , and stop it . Meanwhile , as you said yourself , that's life .


I'm sick of this statement. Why don't you read my points more carefully so I don't have to fix all your false and arbitrary assumptions?

That goes both ways , so let's stop it now . Ok ? Truth .

[weedman]

That goes both ways , so let's stop it now . Ok ? Truth .Ok, let's stop this. :)

Infamous last words: I don't care whether you insult him, but how you insult him. :roll:

[Javehn]

Ok , i will choose other theme to go . :lol:

[Romulus]

To my knowledge, dolphins also have *** for pleasure and are among the most intelligent and empathic animals out there.

Heh, if they are so smart why do they get caught in those fishing nets? Dolphins taste good with some Mayonaisse and relish on rye bread. ;)

[California Joe]

Honestly, if I was gay I wouldn't hang out here unless it was to look at James.

I'd be busy out banging hot guys.

[Tane Angle]

Great question, Jack. I don't know if we are so special. Everything that we are is either an anomoly-which doesn't necessarily help us to survive-such as insanity (which also occurs in other species)-or something allows us to survive better.

Personally...chimps can speak about 250 words of spoken English, can sign about 2,000 words in ASL, and actually understand what they are saying. So they speak our language.

They are self-aware, they are concious, and they can understand the concept of love. But what is love? Is it anything more than a survival instinct? We love our newborns, so we don't leave them by the side of the road to die. It would seem that all animals who care for their children would have a similar ingrained instinct. So they have our strongest emotions.

Many primate species use tools.

And what about Neandertals? What can we do that they couldn't? Music, language, religion, love to our extent...

And then there's ETI. What about life in other solar systems? Why wouldn't life, if it could, evolve to our point, or beyond it? Logically, at least one place out there probably harbors life with cars and TVs and philosophers.

Basically...I don't know that we're as special as we might think. That's always been my problem with abortion activists from both sides, seems sometimes like an adult chimp is more human than a few cells. And I'm saying that as a father.

I think it's an amazing, awe-inspiring topic to discuss. There's so much to it. Like the stars, it is wonderful in the strictest sense-full of wonder.

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[California Joe]

Funny, I wouldn't have figured Tane to be a pot head. ;)

[Ratamacue]

Funny, I wouldn't have figured Tane to be a pot head. ;)

Yeah Tane, who do you buy that **** from? ;)

Well. We have brains that allow us to sort out emotions and other feelings. We have opposable thumbs.
The closest relative to us humans is the oranguatang. They may not look anything like us, but they have similar behavioural traits.
I believe there are theo nly other mammal besides humans that have *** for pleasure.

To my knowledge, dolphins also have *** for pleasure and are among the most intelligent and empathic animals out there.

Unlike you. p-)

[Ratamacue]

Unlike you. p-)

Dude, are you trying to friggin' stalk me on this forums or something? Every time I make a post you're there to try to make some sort of witty snap at me. Stop humping my leg already.

[Hullebullen]

**** is what separates us from the animals...

[Tane Angle]

rofl There goes my reputation around here, Joe. :D

Oh, and Argyll hooks me up with the good stuff. The code is "I want to see under your kilt." Trust me, just make a post that says "Hey Argyll, I want to see under your kilt," and he will give you the good stuff for free. Try it.

Unlike you. p-)

Dude, are you trying to friggin' stalk me on this forums or something? Every time I make a post you're there to try to make some sort of witty snap at me. Stop humping my leg already.

Just getting back at the comments that you made towards me m8. :fork:

[Jack Mehoff]

I'm sick of the homophobia in this forum.

And it makes me personally sad to see a Israeli doing this, who is supposed to have learned by history of being treated badly and being persecuted just because of his look, belief, religion or race. :|

:roll: :roll: Nobody gives a damn of what you do in your bedroom, but if you keep spamming gay links all over the forum like mustabator then you have a bigger issue. Obviously mustabator is seeking for attention in a gay way.

KEEP THE GAY **** TO YOURSELF!!!

[farmgirl]

rofl There goes my reputation around here, Joe. :D

Oh, and Argyll hooks me up with the good stuff. The code is "I want to see under your kilt." Trust me, just make a post that says "Hey Argyll, I want to see under your kilt," and he will give you the good stuff for free. Try it.


Damn it.... When I said that to him.... all he did was lift his kilt. What gives???

[California Joe]

I dunno. Me too.

[Ratamacue]

rofl There goes my reputation around here, Joe. :D

Oh, and Argyll hooks me up with the good stuff. The code is "I want to see under your kilt." Trust me, just make a post that says "Hey Argyll, I want to see under your kilt," and he will give you the good stuff for free. Try it.


Damn it.... When I said that to him.... all he did was lift his kilt. What gives???

Leave the pot to the philisophical old men and bored young men. You need to set an example for your students. ;)

[Tane Angle]

rofl

[fdt]

Well. We have brains that allow us to sort out emotions and other feelings. We have opposable thumbs.
The closest relative to us humans is the oranguatang. They may not look anything like us, but they have similar behavioural traits.
I believe there are theo nly other mammal besides humans that have *** for pleasure.Not only them...
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[fdt]

**** is what separates us from the animals...Wrong. Look at post above... it's a famous baboon John Holmes equivalent.

[Hullebullen]

Eurgh...but my statement still stands. If he had been reading Playmonkey, then it would be a whole different ball game...no pun intended :lol:

[fdt]

Eurgh...but my statement still stands. If he had been reading Playmonkey, then it would be a whole different ball game...no pun intended :lol:Reading Playmonkey? C'mon He owns and starred it... Why do You think he's been caged? He's a bigot victim like larry Flynt!

[sethen]

So what makes a human a human? How do we distinguish our consciousness from any other sort? Will there ever be a definition that all people can accept?

Well Jack I would have to say that most humans need other humans. Love, family and good health are the most important. As far as consciousness levels are concerned religions, and recently psychology have tried to grade consciousness into levels. Most people are in what I call an animal state. Completely ignorant and reactionary to external stimuli. The next state is someone who has noticed the first state and is trying to work their way out of it. These people are rare. And finally there is some one who is completely independant of the 1st and 2nd states. Kinda like a Budha, Christ, Mohammed or Messiah, though not limited to any of those persons/concepts. I gave my Chaplain a copy of Gurdjieffs, "The Possible Psycology of Mans Evolution." He loved it. It covers a lot of your Questions pertain to. I highly suggest it, its a great book.