View Full Version : Mosin Nagant Hunting *REQ
AnUbIs
07-30-2007, 12:28 AM
Well this year im gonna head out into the pennsylvania mountains with a m91/30 mosin nagant and i was wondering if any of you have ever taken a Deer or wild animal with a Mosin , or any other ww2 rifle at that? Post em up
Yeah im bored haha
nagant_m44
07-30-2007, 12:34 AM
Well this year im gonna head out into the pennsylvania mountains with a m91/30 mosin nagant and i was wondering if any of you have ever taken a Deer or wild animal with a Mosin , or any other ww2 rifle at that? Post em up
Yeah im bored haha
i have not hunted with mine, but i can assure you it is more then capable of stopping any game.
gaijinsamurai
07-30-2007, 12:35 AM
I've thought about using mine for deer and/or elk this year.
AnUbIs
07-30-2007, 12:37 AM
i already knew it was more then capable haha , i got to find some soft point ammo though , i find it to easy to blast a deer 30 yards away with my browning 7mm mag with ballistic tips so im gonna use something alittle more challenging :]
I have to start the search for a plain stock rifle that i can use to beat the hell out of , i have to walk awhile and go through thick brush and i dont want to scratch one of my nice laminants up , it shouldnt be hard because they seem to be plentiful around here for about $100
TacoDelRio
07-30-2007, 12:49 AM
Might wanna move this to Gear/equopment..
It would be a wise investment, as you said, to buy a cheap $60 plastic stock for hunting so you dont beat up a nice birch laminate stock.
AnUbIs
07-30-2007, 12:55 AM
Might wanna move this to Gear/equopment..
It would be a wise investment, as you said, to buy a cheap $60 plastic stock for hunting so you dont beat up a nice birch laminate stock.
i wanted some pictures so i put it here haha.
I hate the look of the hunting stocks with a passion , they look so ugly , im gonna stick with a original stock one :D
TacoDelRio
07-30-2007, 01:12 AM
Yeah, sporterised rifles tend to be fagged-up. I nearly went boar hunting with my M44, but realised that would be a really bad idea.
I ended up getting a cheapo Chicom NCStar forward scout mount for it. I still need a long eye relief scope for it. I still think that the money for the rifle, mount, and scope + ammo etc would cover a superior rifle, like a Remington 710.
AnUbIs
07-30-2007, 01:19 AM
Well i really dont have to worry to much about making a nice hunting mosin because i usually dont get past archery season .
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6922/06mounterga1.jpg
(bad shot)
TacoDelRio
07-30-2007, 01:28 AM
Still got his ass though.
Nice 6 point.
AnUbIs
07-30-2007, 01:32 AM
Still got his ass though.
Nice 6 point.
its a 7 :roll:
TacoDelRio
07-30-2007, 01:44 AM
I see six. How do y'all measure them? Does the nose count or something?
AnUbIs
07-30-2007, 02:01 AM
I see six. How do y'all measure them? Does the nose count or something?
a point has to be an inch
From picture perspective theres 4 on each antler witch would make it an 8 point but the right antlers brow tine ( the one closet to his skull) is broke off, where as the left antlers brow tine is intact ( look closely its hard to see ) making it a 4 x 3
TacoDelRio
07-30-2007, 02:04 AM
Missed that one, sorry dude. I've had a bit much to drink.
AnUbIs
07-30-2007, 02:05 AM
Missed that one, sorry dude. I've had a bit much to drink.
haha its all good , ;)
Mark Sman
07-30-2007, 03:14 AM
These guys are all about hunting with C&R.
http://p102.ezboard.com/Hunting-with-Curio-and-Relic-Firearms/fparallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforumsfrm7
SturmPionier
07-30-2007, 04:08 AM
I wouldnt prefer the Mosin nagant for hunting, nasty recoil , better take a K98 with selfmade ammo and not such much grain nitrocellulosepower...really more pleasant
Zielony
07-30-2007, 06:41 AM
in Poland, there's a lot hunters hunting with mosin, my father had even one, short one, maybe cavalery type?
it is very efective and reliable rifle ;] no one really cares about recoil hehe
DavidDCM
07-30-2007, 06:52 AM
Well this year im gonna head out into the pennsylvania mountains with a m91/30 mosin nagant and i was wondering if any of you have ever taken a Deer or wild animal with a Mosin , or any other ww2 rifle at that? Post em up
Yeah im bored haha
I'm not a hunter myself, but here in Germany the K98 is still a common hunting rifle, and the K98-system and caliber are widely used in newer rifles.
AnUbIs
07-30-2007, 07:12 AM
I wouldnt prefer the Mosin nagant for hunting, nasty recoil , better take a K98 with selfmade ammo and not such much grain nitrocellulosepower...really more pleasant
If people use a .300 win mag for deer , i think a mosin would be find :D
SturmPionier
07-30-2007, 07:17 AM
.300 Win Mag has a really bad recoil ôÔ
DeltaWhisky58
07-30-2007, 07:24 AM
i find it to easy to blast a deer 30 yards away with my browning 7mm mag with ballistic tips so im gonna use something alittle more challenging :]
With an attitude like that, I wouldn't let you loose on any live quarry. Show some more respect for your intended victim.
schwarz
07-30-2007, 09:06 AM
30 yards away with my browning 7mm mag with ballistic tips
Good god.:|
Nice deer BTW, but if you want a challenge stick with bow season or get a recurve.
playtym
07-30-2007, 05:48 PM
Sporterised .303 Lee Enfield's are very popular rifles here in South Africa. Surplus rifles can be bought for a fraction of the cost of a new, brand name rifle, and converted into a reasonably good hunting rifle.
BillySing
07-30-2007, 06:22 PM
Well this year im gonna head out into the pennsylvania mountains with a m91/30 mosin nagant and i was wondering if any of you have ever taken a Deer or wild animal with a Mosin , or any other ww2 rifle at that? Post em up
Yeah im bored haha
Use the correct bullet and place your shot wisely.
Don't go out there with surplus FMJ and try to put take him at 400 metres. It's just not worth the risk of wounding such a beautiful animal.
Respect the sanctity of Hunting. Don't just go out there to "blast" things.
AnUbIs
07-30-2007, 06:37 PM
Use the correct bullet and place your shot wisely.
Don't go out there with surplus FMJ and try to put take him at 400 metres. It's just not worth the risk of wounding such a beautiful animal.
Respect the sanctity of Hunting. Don't just go out there to "blast" things.
I didnt mean to use the word blast like that , i love to hunt and i hate people who disobey local laws. Using a 7mm mag , you no longer just " shoot " the deer , you "blast" them if you catch what im trying to say. ( overkill) I usually dont have to track him witch takes the fun out of it... But whatever puts meat on the table.. whats left of it
Thats exactly why i dont want to use FMJ because i know the bullet would zip right through without time to expand , hense why im looking for soft points
DeltaWhisky58
07-30-2007, 06:59 PM
I'm sorry AnUbIs, your latest post on this topic comes across just as badly as your first.
Statements such as:
I usually dont have to track him witch takes the fun out of it... But whatever puts meat on the table.. whats left of it
Do you no favours. Take a step backwards and look at how your posts come across to a keen and dedicated hunter - not very well. It's all about respect for the quarry, a skilled and well executed hunt, a clean and humane kill etc., I'm afraid your posts make a very bad impression of you as a hunter. You sound more like a rabid airsofter with your talk about "Blasting" your deer.
Hollis
07-30-2007, 07:16 PM
FMJ Is very Illegal to hunt with, Not ethical, and puts a person in the category that only profane terms would describe him.
wicked_hind
07-30-2007, 09:07 PM
I usually dont have to track him witch takes the fun out of it... But whatever puts meat on the table.. whats left of it
Is that last sentence your vain attempt at trying to tickle everybody's funny bone?
schwarz
07-30-2007, 09:49 PM
[quote=AnUbIs;2668499 ( overkill) I usually dont have to track him witch takes the fun out of it... But whatever puts meat on the table.. whats left of it
[/quote]
You dont need to "blast" a animal especially a whitetail with a 7mm thats over kill.
I have taken multiple whitetails at anywhere from 50-200 yards with "soft point"(whatever you want to call them) .270 and is enough to take them down be it you can actually shoot.
I have seen deer shot with 7mm mag 300WM and I see no reason you would ever need or want to shoot a deer with such rifle(if range is an issue well you shouldnt be taking the shot in the first place). Over kill is not the name of the game in hunting game you plan to eat(aslong as the game does not suffer with a proper shot). You can blow a deer's leg off with a 7 mag and kill it I ve seen it and is NOT sportsman like. I've seen it all where I live and it pisses me off.
Hollis
07-30-2007, 10:23 PM
It boils down to shot placement. Not dismemberment but errant rounds. Caliber is not the issue.
dangerdan87
07-30-2007, 10:27 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31602&d=11858488431940's Oberndorf Mauser in 30-06
California Joe
07-30-2007, 10:31 PM
Very elegant piece right there pal. Beautiful.
Hollis
07-30-2007, 10:31 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31602&d=11858488431940's Oberndorf Mauser in 30-06
egads, some evil doer stoled the photo. Can we please have a replay.
There are barrel conversions. Neat thing 8mm and 30'06 uses the same bolt face.
M_trace1187
07-31-2007, 02:04 AM
7mm at 30 yards . What why so close? 30-06 .303 or .270 is plenty 7mm is overkill . I took this deer last year with my .30-06 . As far as "Blasting " the deer goes you need to learn some respect for the animal. You aren't a very good sportsman with that kind of attitude.
BillySing
07-31-2007, 02:14 AM
It boils down to shot placement. Not dismemberment but errant rounds. Caliber is not the issue.
It sure does, though sometimes things just don't go exactly to plan, it's also the hunter's responsibility to use enough gun. I do not encourage shooting Deer with anything that may be underpowered. Perhaps in some cases it's better to have too much than too little.
Back in my younger days I used to take Fallow with a .223 Remington.....but when it really comes down to it, even with surgical shot placement, you really want something that won't skip off heavy bone when it hits on a funny angle.
Many an Inexperienced hunter reckon that since they can put together a clover leaf off the bench, shooting a deer shouldn't be any more challenging!
Use enough gun, with the right bullet, and bloody put the shot where it's going to do some good (or bad for the deer)
As it stands, a good soft point from a .30-30 will do it no problems, but you have to send it to right place. Any doubts, don't touch the trigger.
punchinout
07-31-2007, 02:27 AM
^
i've heard a few stories of old timers taking deer with .22WMR's.
Always wanted to take my Garand hunting, get some 2 round clips. I have a Mosin Nagant 91/30 that just sits in the safe had it for 2 months haven't even shot it yet. When i worked at Big 5 we used to have hunters come in who needed a beater so they'd buy an Enfield a Yugo Mauser or a Mosin and take it hunting, or loan it out to a friend who was goin hunting. Its an economical option.
Hollis
07-31-2007, 11:52 AM
It sure does, though sometimes things just don't go exactly to plan, it's also the hunter's responsibility to use enough gun. I do not encourage shooting Deer with anything that may be underpowered. Perhaps in some cases it's better to have too much than too little.
My statement was ment to be taken in the context of learning things and the flow of this thread. First things first. Some questions answer themselves as a person begins to learn what they are doing. IMHO choice of caliber will take care of itself in time. Before a person gets to "Shoot the gun", there are things they need to know first.
I do not disagree with your post. I believe a responsible hunter will take "power" into consideration as a natural part of being a responsible hunter.
Hollis
07-31-2007, 11:57 AM
7mm at 30 yards . What why so close? 30-06 .303 or .270 is plenty 7mm is overkill . I took this deer last year with my .30-06 . As far as "Blasting " the deer goes you need to learn some respect for the animal. You aren't a very good sportsman with that kind of attitude.
WHY, LOL,. because that was the distance the deer choose to expose themselves to the hunter. I guess you never hunted. I carry one rifle when I hunt, not a quiver full of them. The range I hit the deer/elk or what ever at the time they appear and I take a shot, it is not a predetermine distance. Some hunters only own one rifle, it has to do the job for what ever game they hunt.
BillySing
07-31-2007, 05:59 PM
My statement was ment to be taken in the context of learning things and the flow of this thread. First things first. Some questions answer themselves as a person begins to learn what they are doing. IMHO choice of caliber will take care of itself in time. Before a person gets to "Shoot the gun", there are things they need to know first.
I do not disagree with your post. I believe a responsible hunter will take "power" into consideration as a natural part of being a responsible hunter.
Yeah mate, No Worries, I was just making sure that if an impressionable young hunter was reading the post, that he wouldn't go off and try to take a deer with his .223.
California Joe
07-31-2007, 06:03 PM
I hunt with a .243 Savage 99 or a .45 cal flinter. Most deer up here in the woods are taken well within 100 yards. I'd love to have one of those beautiful beanfield tack drivers though. I have a long list of "guns I want". Someday.
AnUbIs
07-31-2007, 08:57 PM
Haha im sorry to come off as such a bad sportsmen , i tend to say the wrong things . Im truly not one , Take last year for example in rife season, i only knicked a doe with my .270 wsm because i shot through some thickets and could only find 1 or 2 drops of blood in the snow and i followed her tracks forever and couldnt find her , so just because i wounded one i swore i wasnt going to shoot another that year .
Why use a 7mm on deer? Its not as bad as you think it would be , it puts deer down faster then most other caliber rifles, and its an all around gun. You can use it for many types of game and very large game and it still has the stopping power. Most deer i see around my stand are close because of the natural draw anyway.
Any rifle will kill a deer as long as you shoot it in the shoulder or another vital point. I know a few guys who had .243 and other semi large calibers and they sold them because the deer would run way to far and they all put vital shots on them.
Current Deer Rifles
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5987/img4729ku3.jpg
top to bottom
Browning A-Bolt 7mm mag
Browning A-Bolt 270 WSM ( winchester short mag )
Remington Model Seven .308
DeltaWhisky58
08-01-2007, 04:37 AM
Haha im sorry to come off as such a bad sportsmen , i tend to say the wrong things . Im truly not one , Take last year for example in rife season, i only knicked a doe with my .270 wsm because i shot through some thickets and could only find 1 or 2 drops of blood in the snow and i followed her tracks forever and couldnt find her , so just because i wounded one i swore i wasnt going to shoot another that year .
You said it - using a high velocity cartridge to shoot through undergrowth, no wonder you lost it. Really responsible hunting (not). Stick to airsofting!
AnUbIs
08-01-2007, 12:49 PM
You said it - using a high velocity cartridge to shoot through undergrowth, no wonder you lost it. Really responsible hunting (not). Stick to airsofting!
... Im sorry that it was the only shot i had and the brush was really really thin. Huntings pretty much my life so i dont think ill go anywhere else.
Hollis
08-01-2007, 01:05 PM
... Im sorry that it was the only shot i had and the brush was really really thin. Huntings pretty much my life so i dont think ill go anywhere else.
Anubis, DW has given you some age advice. Go back and read your posts. They do come across as immature, something a childish hunter might say.
Every hunter, should realize that poor hunting effect us all. The Urban dwellers are usually more than clueless about hunting and often are more than happy to vote for hunting restrictions/bans. Poor hunting skills, ethics, a listening to the way childish hunters talk really does help to push those restrictions and bans.
Current hunter courses cover this area to be sensitive to the squeamishness of urbanites. BA talk does not help.
Very few hunters need to put meat on the table. I have know a very few people in my life that had to hunt to eat. Like most hunters I know, This cost of our trucks could supply a small village with meat for life (ok, a over statement).
I have seen hunting area get closed, more restrictions, and more expensive to do. We can blame people like PETA, or animal rights group or ?? but in reality they are a minority compared to hunters. They get their supports from people you do not hunt and are indifferent to hunting. Hearing stories of poor hunting ethics and listening to big mouth hunters only encourages them to support those anti-hunting groups. This even goes along with just about any other political issues, such as Gun control.
OK?
Maxhawk8
08-01-2007, 02:01 PM
I agree x2, its not so much the animal rights and anti-hunting groups that are to blame as are the stupid hunters and others that don't respect the sport and give a bad face to it. Some people don't understand it and it just shouldn't be discussed outside of the circle of folks who do.
Midn./Patriot
08-01-2007, 07:26 PM
Hunt with Claymores.
Maxhawk8
08-01-2007, 07:57 PM
My point exactly, its people like you that give it a bad rep. Now your probaly alright considering this is a pro-gun/military forum but when you go and say that around others than guess what happens......
DeltaWhisky58
08-01-2007, 08:00 PM
Hunt with Claymores.
What on earth was the point of such an idiotic comment?
AnUbIs
08-01-2007, 08:30 PM
Im pretty sure that was a joke , dont go flaming him now.
rhino
08-01-2007, 09:40 PM
ethics aside, not that they are not important, we hunters have a responsibility to represent the whole community by our words and actions, lets make a positive impression each and every time
as for the original question:
Im fixing my enfield in hope to have it ready for bear season, just got email from my brother in law that our group received a tag for a bull moose, plus if my archery deer season is not successful Im taking that gun deer hunting too:)
all in all I hope the season will be good
also I can tell you that mosin is/was a very popular and cheap choise of a rifle for hunting anywhere in eastern europe, at least when my dad was dragging me and my brother through the bush:|
INCONEL
08-01-2007, 09:42 PM
I hunt with a .243 Savage 99
Awesome rifle..Used one to kill coyotes when I was a younger...fast and accurate...friend ran over it about 20 years ago..broke the stock..taped it up with duct tape...still worked well..."surrendered" it as an unregistered firearm when the gun laws hit Canada...taped, rusty, and beat from bouncing around behind the seat for a decade.. but a great weapon no doubt
Midn./Patriot
08-01-2007, 11:33 PM
What on earth was the point of such an idiotic comment?
Sorry about that, it was a bad joke. I am kind of cynical when it comes to deer, sometimes I think they have declared war on me and my car. I have already had one car totaled by a white-tail on a country road, and plenty of near misses. They are very overpopultated in North Carolina because there are no natural predators.
I had an cousin that was kicked to death when a deer went through her windshield.
rister
08-02-2007, 06:04 AM
K-31 strikes again!!
Well I got back from Iraq, started leave and rushed home to Missouri for deer season. Wouldn't ya know though that the temps jumped into the mid 50's a couple of days before I got there. Only had two and a half days of season. Saw nothing for a day and a half. This morning a group of does walked out into the corn field we were hunting at about two hundred yards. I use my scoped k-31 to shoot clays at that range all the time so I took aim and fired.....and fired.....and fired....lol. Totally missed. Guess I just got worked up. I tried to blame it on the scoped getting bumped but after getting back and walking to our range behind the house I started smashing clays on our 200 yrd dirt mound. lol So much for blaming the rifle...lol. I hunted pretty much the rest of the day and saw nothing. Around 3 pm I went back to the same area where I had missed that morning. As the light was fading we decided to walk out while we had a little light left to shoot just in case we jumped something up. Sure enough we jumped a doe on the way back. She took off running and I leveled to shoot but she took a jump as I let go and my shot went low. I ran home another shell, calmed myself down and fired again. This time my ears were greeted by a hollow thunk as my shot hit home with the doe running at around 100 yrds. She went about 40 yrds before falling. Shot entered just behind the left shoulder and exited just in front of the right leaving about a 2 in hole. Appeared to get heart and lungs. Needless to say I was very happy. The Hornady 150gr SST hand loads performed to perfection. BBQ anyone?
AnUbIs
08-02-2007, 12:20 PM
Beautiful doe and great story :]
Maxhawk8
08-02-2007, 04:30 PM
Last year's White Tail Season was for me Unsuccessful however had i had a Buck in my scope he would of fell to my .270 Winchester. That one was brand new, prior to which i had been using my pap's old .250 savage.
Hollis
08-04-2007, 10:32 PM
My little family of Mosins,
The Tallest is a American made for the Czar.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k226/Hollis6475/New4.jpg
BillySing
08-04-2007, 10:35 PM
My little family of Mosins,
The Tallest is a American made for the Czar.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k226/Hollis6475/New4.jpg
Those are some Beaut's you've got there Hollis......What year is the Sniper?
Hollis
08-04-2007, 10:57 PM
Those are some Beaut's you've got there Hollis......What year is the Sniper?
Billy,
The sniper is 1944, a really good shooter. Then aren't most Mosins?
Pidyon Shevuyim
08-04-2007, 11:01 PM
Heres mine:
Hollis
08-04-2007, 11:14 PM
Heres mine:
Looks good, thanks.
gaijinsamurai
08-04-2007, 11:38 PM
Nice Mosin collection, Hollis!
Yours too, Pidyon.
I've been thinking of adding a M44 carbine to my collection.
Hollis
08-04-2007, 11:55 PM
Nice Mosin collection, Hollis!
Yours too, Pidyon.
I've been thinking of adding a M44 carbine to my collection.
I have friend who tempted me, severly on a nice looking Ruskie M44. The ony M44 second from the right is Polaski. NICE
BillySing
08-05-2007, 02:09 AM
Billy,
The sniper is 1944, a really good shooter. Then aren't most Mosins?
Yeah, not too shabby. Bit rough for my taste though. Give me a nice Longbranch No4. or 1903 any day.
Hollis
08-05-2007, 02:51 AM
Yeah, not too shabby. Bit rough for my taste though. Give me a nice Longbranch No4. or 1903 any day.
You should give a P17 a try. The tallest Mosin is made by Remington for the Czar.
BillySing
08-05-2007, 03:27 AM
You should give a P17 a try. The tallest Mosin is made by Remington for the Czar.
Yeah, got a P-17 (T) with a ridgy didge model 1918 scope for my 18th birthday, wasn't a bad shooter.
A Mosin Nagant made for the Tsar by Remington!? What's the story behind that?
kamarian
08-05-2007, 06:08 AM
Thought i would post this i found a while ago:
The following was sent to me in jest by one of my correspondents who got if from a Marine correspondent of his. There is a lot of truth in this: a comparison of the AK-47 to the AR-15 (M16) to the 1891 Moisin-Nagant rifles.
AK: It works though you have never cleaned it -- ever.
AR: You have $9 per ounce special non-detergent synthetic Teflon infused oil for cleaning.
MN: It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945.
AK: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from inside.
AR: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters.
MN: You can hit the farm from two counties over.
AK: Cheap magazines are fun to buy.
AR: Cheap magazines melt.
MN: What's a magazine?
AK: Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.
AR: You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger.
MN: What's a safety?
AK: Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling.
AR: Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical suspension system.
MN: Your rifle has dog collars.
AK: Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter.
AR: Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak knife.
MN: Your bayonet is longer than your leg.
AK: You can put a .30" hole through 12" of oak, if you can hit it.
AR: You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30 rounds.
MN: You can knock down everyone else's target with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange.
AK: When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
AR: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat.
MN: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.
AK: Recoil is manageable, even fun.
AR: What's recoil?
MN: Recoil is often used to relocate shoulders thrown out by the previous shot.
AK: Your sight adjustment goes to "10", and you've never bothered moving it.
AR: Your sight adjustment is incremented in fractions of minute of angle.
MN: Your sight adjustment goes to 12 miles and you've actually tried it.
AK: Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
AR: Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts.
MN: Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time.
AK: Your rifle won some revolutions.
AR: Your rifle won the Cold War.
MN: Your rifle won a pole vault event.
AK: You paid $350.
AR: You paid $900.
MN: You paid $59.95.
AK: You buy cheap ammo by the case.
AR: You lovingly reload precision crafted rounds one by one.
MN: You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in Ukraine and it works just fine.
AK: You can intimidate your foe with the bayonet mounted.
AR: Your foes laugh when you mount your bayonet.
MN: You can bayonet your foe on the other side of the river without leaving the comfort of your hole.
AK: Service life, 50 years.
AR: Service life, 40 years.
MN: Service life, 100 years, and counting.
AK: It's easier to buy a new rifle when you want to change cartridge sizes.
AR: You can change cartridge sizes with the push of a couple of pins and a new upper.
MN: You believe no real man would dare risk the ridicule of his friends by suggesting there is anything but 7.62x54R.
AK: You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick.
AR: You can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith and it's under warranty!
MN: If your rifle breaks, you buy a new one.
AK: You consider it a badge of honor when you get your handguards to burst into flames.
AR: You consider it a badge of honor when you shoot a sub-MOA 5 shot group.
MN: You consider it a badge of honor when you cycle 5 rounds without the aid of a 2x4.
AK: After a long day the range you relax by watching "Red Dawn".
AR: After a long day at the range you relax by watching "Blackhawk Down".
MN: After a long day at the range you relax by visiting the chiropractor.
AK: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for a stiff shot of Vodka.
AR: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for hotdogs and apple pie.
MN: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for shishkabob.
AK: You can accessorize you rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice stock set.
AR: Your rifle's accessories are eight times more valuable than your rifle.
MN: Your rifle's accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid, but it's buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest.
AK: Your rifle's finish is varnish and paint.
AR: Your rifle's finish is Teflon and high tech polymers.
MN: Your rifle's finish is low grade shellac, cosmoline and Olga's toe nails.
AK: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Mikhail Kalashnikov.
AR: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Eugene Stoner.
MN: You're not sure there WERE cameras to photograph Sergei Mosin.
AK: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!"
AR: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to clear your house, slicing the pie from room to room.
MN: Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the urge to dig a fighting trench in the yard to sleep in.
rhino
08-05-2007, 07:02 AM
funny.........
Hollis
08-05-2007, 12:52 PM
Yeah, got a P-17 (T) with a ridgy didge model 1918 scope for my 18th birthday, wasn't a bad shooter.
A Mosin Nagant made for the Tsar by Remington!? What's the story behind that?
During the begining of WWI, some American Manufacters made rifles for European Allies. I have A SMLE made by Savage, The Czar had Remington make a bucn of Mosin Nagant. For the complete read on the history, google it.
bmfbubbled
09-03-2008, 06:41 AM
Im going to be taking my mosin nagant 91/30 hunting for black tail deer later this fall. I have spent about a week customizing it so far. First chopped the stoke and rounded the tip out, then sanded it smooth just after the recoil bolt so the barrel would flot. Cut the barrel from 27 3/4 inches down to 26 inches and re-crowned the muzzle. Removed the rear leaf sight assembely and replace with a NcStar 2-7 x 32mm EER scope using 3/8 leapold 1 inch sope rings. After all this, I prime and painted it wood land camo using a forked twig and a branch from a pine tree for textures.
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bmfbubbled
09-03-2008, 06:59 AM
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rhino
09-03-2008, 12:56 PM
god help you if you did that to an Enfield
never the less; WHY?:cantbeli:
bmfbubbled
09-03-2008, 11:47 PM
god help you if you did that to an Enfield
never the less; WHY?:cantbeli:
simple. The standard mosin nagant was designed for the purpose of hunting people in open war, fighting in trenches, streets, hills, mountains, train yards, you name it. But the 7.62x54r ammunition is very close to the more common 30-06. which just like the 7.62, was meant for long range fighting on the battle field. But both rounds share a common bullet design and produces almost the same results in hunting big game even though the 7.62 is necked shorter on the cartridge. Having near equal knock down power and penetration, the 7.62 wins based on over all cost. woot
Plus I was just bored and I didnt much care for my mosin anymore and almost all the cheap finish that was on it had rubbed off from only 2 years of wear and tear, and seeing as how I lacked the money to purchase a deer rifle with at least a 500 yards range, I thought why not give this a try. If it dont work, ill just scrap the mosin and buy another one.:backhand:
Hollis
09-03-2008, 11:52 PM
There is a sight mount that mounts on the reciever rather than the barrel. IMHO, it works very well.
One has to do a bolt modification because of the scope, make a drop bolt handle.
bmfbubbled
09-04-2008, 12:13 AM
There is a sight mount that mounts on the reciever rather than the barrel. IMHO, it works very well.
One has to do a bolt modification because of the scope, make a drop bolt handle.
I know to well about that mount type, but the problem is that I do not currently own a drill press or tap and dye kit to mount that type of rail, as for the bent bolt, I am going to work on mine at my dads shop some time this fall before deer season, seeing as how the mosins safety is rather difficult and noise, i am going to be welding a pull ring to the rear of the bolt as well.
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