Thanks Beowulf!

[fdt]

Good job!

I know at least one military forum that has been killed by trolls like WN. Unfortunately that forum had no sheriff.

Keep on like this! Don't let this forum get strangled.

BTW: What's happening to Soulhunter? Did I miss smth?

[Beowulf]

thanks. I'm pretty sure he got banned.

moving to off-topic

[Beowulf]

what's your avatar?

[Roger Rabbit]

I'd like to add my thanks as well. I think some people don't appreciate the contributions of the mods to this board.

[fdt]

what's your avatar?Commemorative medal of admiral Von Tirpitz... The writing says "God punish England".

[Beowulf]

what's your avatar?Commemorative medal of admiral Von Tirpitz... The writing says "God punish England".

heh cool.

Wasn't the tirpitz the largest battleship in WWII? (edit oops spelling)

[California Joe]

Tirpitz was a "pocket" battleship, like the Graf Spee I belieive.

The Bismark was the big one.

[fdt]

what's your avatar?Commemorative medal of admiral Von Tirpitz... The writing says "God punish England".

heh cool.

Wasn't the tirpitz the largest battleship in WWII? (edit oops spelling)Not the larges of all, but the largest of German BB. Tirpitz was the mastermind of the Kaiser fleet buildup before WW1. He was not the "line" officer but a great fleet builder... BTW I have nothing against England and I am not even a German... I was simply born the same town that is not in Germany anymore... A few of the kaiser's BBs were build in the shipyard that used to be at premises I work now. I love Big Guns on the seas.

[mustamato]

http://www.voodoo.cz/battleships/germany/bismarck.html

Seems that the Tirpitz was slightly larger (or well, heavier).


BISMARCK (Feb. 14,1939)
TIRPITZ (April 1, 1939)
DEUTCHLAND (laid down 1938)
FRIEDRICH DER GROSSE or HINDENBURG (laid down 1939)
Displacement: 42,000 tons standart. Full load 50,995 tons (emergency full load Bismarck), 52,700 tons (Tirpitz)
Complement: 1500
Length: (w.l.) 791 feet
Beam: 118 feet
Draught: (mean) 28 feet.
Guns:
8 - 15 inch
12 - 5.9 inch
16 - 4.1 inch
16 - 37mm 83 cal
12 - 20mm 65 cal (30 installed on Tirpitz 1942)
final fit on Tirpitz 16 quad 20mm L 38 Vierlige
16 single 20mm
Torpedoes 2 x 21" quad tubes installed on Tirpitz 1942
Armour:
Side 12.59" tapered to 10.35" at bottom
Deck 1.96" upper deck
3.14" - 4.72" armor deck
Forward Transverse Bulkhead 8.7"
Turrets 14.1" faces
8" - 5" sides and roof
Barbettes 13.5" sides
Conning Tower 14.1" sides
Aircraft: 4 Arado AR 196, with 2 catapults
Machinery: Geared turbines. 2 shafts. High pressure water-tube boilers. S.H.P. 150,000. Oil fuel: 8000 tons (max.)

And what happened to them:


BISMARCK - Torpedoed by H.M.S. Dorsetshire after being reduced to a sinking condition by gunfire of H.M.S. King George V and Rodney, May 27, 1941, previously been damaged by torpedoes discharger by Naval aircraft from H.M.S. Victorious and Ark Royal.

Story : HUNT FOR BISMARCK

TIRPITZ - Damaged by British X6 midget submarine Sep.22, 1943 that laid limpet mines on her hull
turbines blasted off mountings,shafts and rudder disabled, repaired Sep 1943-Mar., 1944. Damaged again by RAF Barracuda's Apr.5, 1944 being hit 15 times by bombs, damaged by one bomb from RAF bombers Apr.1, 1944, under air attack later part of Aug. 1944, hit by one bomb on bow Oct.14, 1944, moved to Tromso,Norway (Sande Sound) Oct.17, 1944 (8 knots best speed). Bombed by 32 RAF Lancasters with 13,200 LB Tallboy bombs Nov.12, 1944, 3 hits several near misses caused her to capsize. Scrapped on site 1948-57

[California Joe]

Damn, I never knew that. That's interesting.

Hey, look at Musty being all informative.

[Ichhabe]

I live just a mile from where Tirpitz met it's end. There is a "memorial park" just a few hundred meters from where she was laid to rest. Gonna sneak out there one day and take some pictures.

[Argyll]

Built by Germans Sunk by the RAF ;)

Both Tirpitz and Bismark were beautiful ships in their own rights,I used to have both models when I was a kid.

Did Bob Ballard not do an expedition to the Fjord where the Tirpitz met her end?

Cali Joe,
Pocket battleships were also Bonnie looking,IIRC the build was somewhere between a Cruiser and a Battleship.
German Naval History used to be an interest in mine,they had some great ships in Both World Wars

[memphiz]

Go Beowulf woot

[mustamato]

German Naval History used to be an interest in mine,they had some great ships in Both World Wars

The history of the Blücher that was sunk in the Oslo fjord is quite amazing as well.
The Germans gambled and guessed that the Norweigians wouldn´t have the balls
to fire on them... they had. Along with the crew of Blücher, it obviously carried
special parade troops for the victory parade in Oslo and everything. Those that survived
did it because of Norweigian fishermen that risked their own lives to save German
sailors.

http://cube.blinx.de/~klarschiff/images/bluecher3.jpg
Blücher

http://cube.blinx.de/~klarschiff/images/bluechersinkt4.jpg
Blücher after receiving some hit from coastal artillery and torpedoes

http://cube.blinx.de/~klarschiff/Bluechergallery.html

[Falco]

[cheerleader mode] Gime a B, gime a E, gime a O ... [/cheerleader mode]

[fdt]

I live just a mile from where Tirpitz met it's end. There is a "memorial park" just a few hundred meters from where she was laid to rest. Gonna sneak out there one day and take some pictures.You better do a lil' recon on the diving possibility ofn the Tirpitz's remains and gimnme a full report... with who, what club, when, for how many... and how to get there by car... Dismissed.

[Marmot1]

musta you mentioned germania... but AFAIK germania was frst name of Bismark... then it was renamed since Hitler was afraid of sinking the ship that bears a name of "his" country...