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rem40xb
07-31-2007, 05:40 PM
Time to shut down reactor


Nuclear reactor in Dimona is like a volcano that can erupt at any moment Issam Makhoul Published: 07.31.07, 19:43 / Israel Opinion (http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3084,00.html)



The earthquake in Japan this month and the Japanese government’s quick decision to shut down the world’s largest nuclear reactor, damaged as a result of the quake, are neither a local Japanese affair nor a regional one only. Once again, more than sixty years since it was bombed, the warning concerning the nuclear danger is coming from Japan.


Yet the warning bells regarding the danger of a horrific nuclear leak must resonate here in Israel too, before it’s too late.


The old reactor in Dimona is located on the Syrian-African rift. An earthquake similar to the one that hit Japan or the one that hit Turkey eight years ago may crack the reactor and leave Israel and its neighbors shrouded in a nuclear cloud. Then we will be left to die in great suffering along with our neighbors.


The dangers posed by the Dimona nuclear reactor to Israeli citizens and people of the region exist not only in case of an atomic war. Even without a war we are facing the constant danger of the nuclear volcano at our doorstep.


The Dimona nuclear reactor is already in the fifth decade of its existence, and according to international standards, including the American one, is considered an old and dangerous reactor that must be shut down. It is an old model and therefore any upgrades to it would not change its basic problems.


The many mishaps that occurred in the Dimona reactor in the past must serve as a warning sign and override the calming messages coming from the defense establishment, which argues that we have nothing to worry about.


Those who failed to prepare the home front in face of rocket attacks may also fail in the mission of preparing the home front vis-à-vis nuclear hazards. Over the years, the various Israeli governments have turned the country’s territory into a poisonous and poisoning nuclear garbage dumpster.


Today, the policy of ambiguity only works vis-à-vis the citizens of Israel. They cannot play the democratic role of monitoring their government in the nuclear realm, because the government is hiding the truth on a matter that all of our lives depend on.


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Considering its size, Israel is currently second in the world in terms of the presence of high-grade plutonium, behind Britain, and in sixth place in the world in terms of accumulated quantities of high-grade plutonium. The large quantity of nuclear waste collected in the last decades may cause a wide-scale disaster whose effect would reach way beyond the Negev region in case of a mishap or earthquake.


Should there be a nuclear leak, it may poison our water sources and soil for hundreds and thousands of years. The reactor is old and safety measures are unknown to us. Even a mini-Chernobyl disaster as a result of human error or the reactor’s age could make Israel unfit for human life.


Back in March 2004, I submitted a bill aiming to shut down the nuclear reactor in Dimona. The bill was rejected by an automatic overwhelming majority of 65 against six and was taken off the agenda without a genuine attempt to address the arguments presented. Yet the dangers lurking in the shadows have not been removed and continue to threaten us.



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3431419,00.html

orionhawk
07-31-2007, 06:01 PM
How about some specifics? I have heard nothing about "many mishaps" at Dimona. Japan, on the other hand, has a record right up there with Russia and the U.S. for noteworthy, and deadly nuclear accidents. Japan has killed at least 2 people in a nuclear incident (reactor fuel purification criticality at Tokaimura). 3 for the U.S. at SL-1. God only knows how many the Russian nuclear programs killed between Chernobyl, K19, and however many they just haven't told anyone about.

2Sheds_Jackson
07-31-2007, 06:04 PM
Good lord, who wrote this, a high school kid? It's nothing but opinion - no hard facts to back anything up. It's a wonder they didn't somehow work global warming into the reasons why it has to be shut down. No wonder the bill was rejected.

Hydro
07-31-2007, 06:06 PM
Why on earth do some people think that a nuclear reactor is like an armed nuclear bomb with dodgy circuitry? This article mentions nothing more that "What if's?". The nuclear industry is usually very highly regulated by individual nations, and actually tends to be rather safe - if used correctly, of course; things are bound to go wrong if equipment is used outside of its parameters, or someone drops their keys into the reactor core.

IsraDani
07-31-2007, 06:18 PM
Dimona is probably shutted up since ages, or at least I hope we dont put our real reactor in the maps and media..

sinophile
07-31-2007, 09:33 PM
Dimona is probably shutted up since ages, or at least I hope we dont put our real reactor in the maps and media..

I'd have to agree. It would a surprise if Dimona was still anything more than possibly a research reactor - if even still active.

On the other hand I'm hard-pressed to think of a country with a greater economic incentive to use a peaceful nuclear reactor.

All very interesting to speculate on.

kamaz
07-31-2007, 09:48 PM
great idea, shut down nuclear deterrence at a time when Iran is building its own nukes and declaring aims of genocide. Brilliant!!

Jurpula
07-31-2007, 09:54 PM
Why on earth do some people think that a nuclear reactor is like an armed nuclear bomb with dodgy circuitry? .

Well **** you briton, the rocket engines beneath Olkiluoto I are warming up as we speak, prepare for war111!1!!!11!111!!1!



















































p-)

Jurpula
07-31-2007, 09:59 PM
great idea, shut down nuclear deterrence at a time when Iran is building its own nukes and declaring aims of genocide. Brilliant!!

And what does nuclear deterrence have to do with basic power producement?

Palmach
08-01-2007, 08:58 AM
Good lord, who wrote this, a high school kid? It's nothing but opinion - no hard facts to back anything up. It's a wonder they didn't somehow work global warming into the reasons why it has to be shut down. No wonder the bill was rejected.

The author is a former Hadash MK. His objective is to close down an ISRAELI reactor. A reactor in Pakistan or Iran must be nurtured and protected if you ask his ilk.

orionhawk
08-01-2007, 09:50 AM
The author is a former Hadash MK. His objective is to close down an ISRAELI reactor. A reactor in Pakistan or Iran must be nurtured and protected if you ask his ilk.

That was what I figured, somehow. I had noted that his name was not Hebrew.

Pars
08-01-2007, 10:12 AM
great idea, shut down nuclear deterrence at a time when Iran is building its own nukes and declaring aims of genocide. Brilliant!!

There is no hard proof that Iran is building nukes, none what so ever. Only speculation that has wrongly been mistaken as truth. Secondly, a midget president with no real power (and certainly no military power) declaring that he want's a certain country wiped of the map (even though it is suggested that he was wrongly translated) doesn't really mean anything. And please, if someone answers me with a lame Germany pre-WWII comparison I'll rape a puppy.

Hold your horses for Christ's sake.

Kaplanr
08-01-2007, 10:38 AM
Pit bull or Chihuahua?

Speculation, yes, but who are you to say it's worngly mistaken. In Achmathejewsdidit's eyes the "truth" is that Israel doesn't "exist". Moshe Dayan had a very interesting take on the situation prior to the 6 Day War. If your neighbor keeps telling you and the other neighbors that he's going to kick the **** out of you and how he's going to di it, what do you do, if it looks like he could? Do you do nothing? You've called the police, but they've skedaddled (UNEF), or do you cold-**** him the first chance you get? Even if he's bluffing (Nasser was) how dio you know that.

As for the Nazis, where's the line between words and policy or law? By the time you realize that Mein Kampf has been codified into the legal system (or foreign policy decision making) it's too late to do anything.

As for Dimona, it is a research facility rated by the IAEA at 26 MWT (megawatts). According to anti-nuclear sources and Mordechai Vannunu it's been upgraded once or twice to as much as 70 MWT. By comparison, the Beaver Valley power plant in western PA is rated at 821 MWT, Three Mile Island 1 at 875 MWT, and South Korea just began construction of Shin Kori 1 rated at 960 MWT. http://www.iaea.org/programmes/a2/

rem40xb
08-02-2007, 05:52 AM
nobody remembers Chernobyl, Even UK was affected

digrar
08-02-2007, 06:00 AM
What do you mean no one remembers, it's the first thing mentioned whenever there is talk of a reactor problem.

Snoshi
08-02-2007, 06:51 AM
nobody remembers Chernobyl, Even UK was affected

So.. Lets remove all of the nuclear power plants in the world!!!

zwonder
08-02-2007, 08:06 AM
I don't see why he's going for the reactor, there are already a few hundred armable/armed Israeli nuclear weapons *according to foreign press*. He should be saying that Israel must dismantle its nuclear weapons because... bla bla bla. Supposedly the Dimona reactor is still working, shutting it down will have zero effect on Israeli nuclear weapons.

Kaplanr
08-02-2007, 09:21 AM
I don't see why he's going for the reactor, there are already a few hundred armable/armed Israeli nuclear weapons *according to foreign press*. He should be saying that Israel must dismantle its nuclear weapons because... bla bla bla. Supposedly the Dimona reactor is still working, shutting it down will have zero effect on Israeli nuclear weapons.

The reality is he and all the other politicians in the world should just keep their mouths shut, reduce greenhouse gases and mitigate global warming.

rem40xb
08-02-2007, 11:41 AM
So.. Lets remove all of the nuclear power plants in the world!!!


at least the unsafe old ones and these who are on critical danger of earthquakes.