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emiljoe
08-02-2007, 09:32 PM
U.S. Newspapers Feature Hamas Propaganda on Op-Ed Pages :fork:

http://thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=3496

The New York Times and the Washington Post have published two op-ed articles written by prominent Hamas member Ahmed Yousef. The Los Angeles Times has also published an op-ed by the organization’s political bureau deputy, Mousa Abu Marzook. The Yousef by-lines appeared in the June 20 New York Times and Washington Post, and the Marzook article appeared in July.

Hamas is a known terrorist organization.

In “What Hamas Wants (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/20/opinion/20yousef.html?ex=1340078400&en=65caaa2f6497cf63&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink),” Yousef claims that Hamas’s violent takeover of the Gaza Strip should not be referred to as a “coup,” insisting that Hamas did everything it could to try to work out a peaceful power-sharing arrangement with its political rival within the Palestinian Authority, Fatah.

“From the day Hamas won the general election in 2006 it offered Fatah the chance of joining forces and forming a unity government,” Yousef wrote. “It [also] tried to engage the international community to explain its platform for peace.” Problem is, the international community had a problem with Hamas’s official platform (http://terroristwatch.tripod.com/hamascharter.htm), which for one refuses to accept Israel’s right to exist.

It was Hamas’s unwillingness to compromise on its hardcore anti-Israel doctrine that was the reason financial aid to the joint Hamas-Fatah unity government was revoked by the United States and the European Union. But Yousef failed to discuss the withdrawal of funding and the reason behind it in his editorial, instead implying that his organization made a sincere effort to work with Fatah and the international community. “Hamas even adhered to a unilateral cease-fire for 18 months in an effort to normalize the situation on the ground,” he wrote.

“For 18 months we have tried to find ways to coexist with Fatah, entering into a unity government, even conceding key positions in the cabinet to their and international demands, negotiating up until the last moment to try to provide security for all our people on the streets of Gaza.

“None of these points appear to have been recognized in the press coverage of the last few days,” Yousef whined. Yousef was referring to coverage around the time Hamas, possibly at the signal of Iran (http://thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=3290), broke out into full-scale warfare against Fatah in June, shooting security guards, setting off bombs, throwing some captured Fatah supporters off rooftops and executing others in the streets, sometimes in front of their wives and children.

In his “Engage With Hamas (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/19/AR2007061901736.html)” editorial, Yousef refers to his organization’s bloody actions in Gaza as securing the area and blames problems in the area on “the Israeli agenda of ethnic cleansing and conquest.” The leader also insisted that Palestinians want the same things Western citizens want and denies that Hamas-controlled Gaza could be a breeding ground for terrorism.

Throughout the piece, Yousef was careful not to draw attention to his group’s stance against Israel’s existence, which is clearly outlined in the Hamas charter. (http://terroristwatch.tripod.com/hamascharter.htm)

The op-eds are not the first or most outlandish instance of the American press granting preferential treatment to terrorists. The Times published another Yousef op-ed in November 2006, and the Washington Post and Newsweek together publish a featured column by cleric Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, whom the U.S. government has accused of issuing a religious edict condoning the truck bombing of U.S. Marine headquarters in Beirut in 1983.

In his July 24 “On Faith” column, Fadlallah, who has had close ties with Hezbollah in the past, asserts that jihad is always either “defensive” or “preventative,” and never aggressive. “In the light of this, jihad is no different than any human and civilized concept of self-defense,” he writes. For a look at whether or not Islam is a peaceful religion, read “Is Islam a Threat (http://thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=1300)?”

Newsweek interviewed Fadlallah in 2003 and 2004, publishing his support of Iraqi terrorist leader Moqtada al-Sadr’s form of violence and his view that President Bush “regards himself as the Second Coming of Christ” and that “we should send him to a psychiatrist.” Fadlallah also refers to suicide bombings as “martyrdom operations” and implies that Israel uses F-16s and rockets to intentionally kill innocent civilians. More importantly, editors chose to describe Fadlallah in a favorable light and posted his comments unchallenged and undebated.

Other editors have gone so far as to write in support of terrorists, such as former Chicago Tribune public editor Don Wycliff and the Boston Globe (http://thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=3366)’s editorial board, who claimed Israel was largely to blame for the Palestinian civil war in Gaza. For more on the mainstream media’s unobjective and even irrational treatment of violent extremist causes, read “Manipulating the Media (http://thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=2526)” and “The Terrorists’ Megaphone (http://thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=1139).” http://thetrumpet.com/images/blip.gif

Hollis
08-02-2007, 09:35 PM
I guess this article goes with this one.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ouch_pape.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/08/poll_surprises_outoftouch_pape.html)

August 02, 2007
Poll Surprises Out-of-Touch Paper
By Debra Saunders

When a New York Times poll found that the number of Americans who think it was right for the United States to go to war in Iraq rose from 35 percent in May to percent 42 percent in mid-July, rather than promptly report the new poll findings, the paper conducted another poll. As the Times' Janet Elder wrote Sunday, the increased support for the decision to go to war was "counterintuitive" and because it "could not be easily explained, the paper went back and did another poll on the very same subject."

Round Two found that 42 percent of voters think America was right to go into Iraq, while the percentage of those polled who said that it was wrong to go to war had fallen from 61 percent to 51 percent. The headline for Elder's piece read, "Same Question, Different Answer. Hmmm." But it should have read: "America's Paper of Record Out of Touch With American Public."

Elder wrote that growing support for the war seemed odd: "Once in a while a poll finding doesn't make sense." It occurred as Congress was debating the war and the Bush administration had to report that Iraq had failed to meet a number of benchmarks for progress.

Too true. But at the same time, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker and Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari had begun warning the public of the consequences of a premature withdrawal. Brass serving in Iraq were explaining why they wanted more time to let the surge work, as they were making inroads in fighting insurgents and winning support from the Iraqi public. Most important: President Bush had responded to criticism of the administration's erstwhile undermanned whack-a-mole Iraq strategy, which had depressed U.S. troop morale, by putting Gen. David Petraeus in charge of Iraq and implementing his nuanced counterinsurgency and no-retreat surge plan.

To assume that this change in leadership made no difference is tantamount to admitting that the criticism of the Bush administration's policies was designed more to hurt Bush than to win the war. (Be it noted, many San Francisco Bay Area readers are so averse to the idea of victory that they will challenge me to define it. That's because they do not want to imagine an Iraq in which citizens are secure, Iraqi forces operational and U.S. troops can begin to withdraw without fearing genocide.)

While the Petraeus strategy does not quite bolster the decision to go into Iraq -- Elder noted that, oddly, the poll did not find a change in voter approval of Bush' handling of the war -- war polling always has been problematic.

Consider the July 13-15 Rasmussen poll that asked likely voters if it is "possible for the U.S. to win the war in Iraq": 32 percent answered yes, 54 percent no. Yet when asked if Washington should wait until September before making major changes in Iraq, 51 percent said yes, 38 percent said no. If voters really thought the war cannot be won, they would not want to wait until September.

On Monday, the Times also ran an opinion piece, "A War We Just Might Win," by war critics Michael O'Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack of the Brookings Institution, which has prompted Beltway biggies to notice that the surge is paying off.

Well, not everyone inside the Beltway. Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., dismissed the piece as "rhetoric." "I don't know what they saw, but I know this, that it's not getting better," Murtha told CNN. Since this war began, there always have been people rooting for failure.

With the death toll of U.S. troops surpassing 3,560, Americans have cause to be wary and distressed. They may tell pollsters that they are pessimistic, but that does not mean that they are prepared to lose.

dsaunders@sfchronicle.com (dsaunders@sfchronicle.com)

loganinkosovo
08-03-2007, 01:53 AM
"The New York Times and the Washington Post have published two op-ed articles written by prominent Hamas member Ahmed Yousef. The Los Angeles Times has also published an op-ed by the organization’s political bureau deputy, Mousa Abu Marzook."

You are talking about the three biggest America-hating Israel-hating Jew-hating Leftist Rags published in the States today. They make the Peoples Daily look like the National Review.

These rags aren't even good enough to wipe your A$$ with.

ting
08-03-2007, 05:27 PM
Propaganda for some, is truth to others. :| It`s good that the US media is finally allowing other viewpoints in print. However when it comes to the Israeli-palestinian conflict bias is an understatment, so they have a long way to go.

Mu-Meson
08-03-2007, 06:47 PM
Propaganda for some, is truth to others. :| It`s good that the US media is finally allowing other viewpoints in print. However when it comes to the Israeli-palestinian conflict bias is an understatment, so they have a long way to go.

Of course, its so simple. Let Hamas spokesman spread their lies, and hatred, and then they will stop firing rockets at schools, and trying to carry out suicide attacks. By falling back on the old "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter" your just being lazy. It doesn't matter one iota what the palestinians think of suicide bombers relative to whether it should be considered justified by people in America. If someone came up to you and said "I don't think murder is wrong" does that mean you have to grant him moral equivalence with someone who does think it wrong? If you are unable to make a clear moral judgment on others, then what is the point of your own morals? The actions of palestinian terrorists like Hamas are morally reprehensible. End of story.

NewsMan
08-03-2007, 06:55 PM
To often people learn what they want from who they want... making opinion slanted and uneducated. At least you can read the guy's words and make a judgement for yourself instead of letting someone dictate to you what you should believe. It's amazing, on this board sometimes, that people who love their freedom of speech so much only support their own. As much as I dislike Hamas, I learned quite a bit about their thinking from the articles YOU posted here... that I would've never seen otherwise. You have become a tool of Hamas yourself, by propagating their "propaganda".

Decebalus
08-03-2007, 07:48 PM
Why are you guys acting so stupid, blinded by hate and ignorance. Its was an opinion analysis article, it doesn't have to be fact or to convince anyone.

If you don't like it, stfu about it. Acting like a nazi won't change anything.

Bia
08-03-2007, 07:48 PM
Why are you guys acting so stupid, blinded by hate and ignorance. Its was an opinion analysis article, it doesn't have to be fact or to convince anyone.

If you don't like it, stfu about it. Acting like a nazi won't change anything.
Amen.

+rep

Palmach
08-03-2007, 11:12 PM
Why are you guys acting so stupid, blinded by hate and ignorance. Its was an opinion analysis article, it doesn't have to be fact or to convince anyone.

If you don't like it, stfu about it. Acting like a nazi won't change anything.

Sure, lets give a Osama a way to address the broader audience. And the KKK. And the Nazi party. They all have an opinion, so those of us who find their drivel distasteful and unworthy to be published in a major paper should just stfu... Tough chance - that would leave the field to you...

Decebalus
08-03-2007, 11:24 PM
Sure, lets give a Osama a way to address the broader audience. And the KKK. And the Nazi party. They all have an opinion, so those of us who find their drivel distasteful and unworthy to be published in a major paper should just stfu... Tough chance - that would leave the field to you...
Your going way too far by comparing AQ with Hamas. :roll:
And second, they are already expressing themselves through the internet.

In fact, the US Nazi party is pretty legit and its there. They do parades and stuff.

If everything was so censored, the US wouldn't be the US anymore now would it?

Palmach
08-03-2007, 11:37 PM
Your going way too far by comparing AQ with Hamas. :roll:
And second, they are already expressing themselves through the internet.

In fact, the US Nazi party is pretty legit and its there. They do parades and stuff.

If everything was so censored, the US wouldn't be the US anymore now would it?

Not that far - they are idiological syblings, childeren of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.

Nazi party is not afforded a platform by the NYP, LAT, or any other major newspaper. Moreover, any newspaper which WOULD open its oped papers to pro-nazi opinions would find itself in a world of excrement.

Freedom of speach does not imply lack of editorial control. US is a democratic republic, not a liberterian anarchy.