Poll shows majority wants UK troops to pull out

[mustamato]

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=519735


Independent/MOP poll
Should British troops pull out of Iraq by 30th June?
55 per cent: YES
28 per cent: NO
17 per cent: DON'T KNOW

[Luxembourger]

ok let s pull out everyone out of iraq . We know the consequences of that ! civil war and new camps for Al Qaeda

[scm77]

We should pull everyone out. That'll surely bring peace to Iraq. :roll:

[Luxembourger]

and media polls, I don t give any s..t for them . Every media agency can make it s own polls and have different results form other polls being made.

[Argyll]

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=519735


Independent/MOP poll
Should British troops pull out of Iraq by 30th June?
55 per cent: YES
28 per cent: NO
17 per cent: DON'T KNOW

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?
How many people over the voting age were asked?
Polls are for TROLLS...............answers are not reflective on the whole of the British public mate.

[Luxembourger]

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?

I guess only those reporters working for the guardian and indeoendent :D
just kidding

[MEGR]

Actually, I thought that the British population as a whole didn't support the war anyways.. This poll didn't suprise me.. However, I do not live in the UK, and could definately be wrong.

[mustamato]

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?

I guess only those reporters working for the guardian :D
just kidding

Actually


Professor Colin Francombe, of Middlesex University, who commissioned the survey...

[Old300]

Mustamoto, if Britain were governed by polls, Britain would re-instate capital punishment. And if it Britain re-instated capital punishment, Britain would be kicked out of the EU. Then you'd be happy, right?

[Argyll]

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?

I guess only those reporters working for the guardian :D
just kidding

Actually


Professor Colin Francombe, of Middlesex University, who commissioned the survey...

So how many people were part of the Poll then?
Unless it was 58 million then it does not represent the Population of the UK ;)

[mustamato]

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?


I guess only those reporters working for the guardian :D
just kidding

Actually


Professor Colin Francombe, of Middlesex University, who commissioned the survey...

So how many people were part of the Poll then?
Unless it was 58 million then it does not represent the Population of the UK ;)

You do know what a professor is Argyll? I´m sure he´s capable of doing his
job just fine without having to ask 58 million people. When he would come to the
last of those the first one he asked the question would have had time to change
his mind 1000 times.

[Argyll]

Just because you have a title of Proffesor in front of your name does not mean you're always right does it?
again how many people conducted the poll?

[cut]

Actually, I thought that the British population as a whole didn't support the war anyways.. This poll didn't suprise me.. However, I do not live in the UK, and could definately be wrong.

no, you're absolutely right the poll have suggested opinion has been like that ever since going to war in Iraq with the UN was ruled out, appart from a short period of time around the invasion, when jingoism was at it's peak.

[HELEX]

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?

I guess only those reporters working for the guardian :D
just kidding

Actually


Professor Colin Francombe, of Middlesex University, who commissioned the survey...

So how many people were part of the Poll then?
Unless it was 58 million then it does not represent the Population of the UK ;)

Polls like this are using more than 1000 People. Its the same technique used before elections, and they are usually more precise than 1.5%.

Of course nobody forces you to acknowledge that outcome as true. You can do your own next time you are sitting with your buddies in the pub, and believe in that. :lol:

[Argyll]

Actually, I thought that the British population as a whole didn't support the war anyways.. This poll didn't suprise me.. However, I do not live in the UK, and could definately be wrong.

no, you're absolutely right the poll have suggested opinion has been like that ever since going to war in Iraq with the UN was ruled out, appart from a short period of time around the invasion, when jingoism was at it's peak.

There's not been much difference in the post/pre war stance anyway,the poll musty is talking about like all other polls are inconclusive.

A poll carried out in England will not get the same reaction in Scotland ;)

[Argyll]

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?

I guess only those reporters working for the guardian :D
just kidding

Actually


Professor Colin Francombe, of Middlesex University, who commissioned the survey...

So how many people were part of the Poll then?
Unless it was 58 million then it does not represent the Population of the UK ;)

Polls like this are using more than 1000 People. Its the same technique used before elections, and they are usually more precise than 1.5%.

Of course nobody forces you to acknowledge that outcome as true. You can do your own next time you are sitting with your buddies in the pub, and believe in that. :lol:

Utter ****e!!.....prove it

[HELEX]

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?

I guess only those reporters working for the guardian :D
just kidding

Actually


Professor Colin Francombe, of Middlesex University, who commissioned the survey...

So how many people were part of the Poll then?
Unless it was 58 million then it does not represent the Population of the UK ;)

Polls like this are using more than 1000 People. Its the same technique used before elections, and they are usually more precise than 1.5%.

Of course nobody forces you to acknowledge that outcome as true. You can do your own next time you are sitting with your buddies in the pub, and believe in that. :lol:

Utter ****e!!.....prove it

This Company did it (read Mustamatos Source):

http://www.nop.co.uk/techniques/hp_qualitative.shtml

You can find about how they on the site, seems to be the UKs market leader for things like this..... :D

[Gringo]

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=519735


Independent/MOP poll
Should British troops pull out of Iraq by 30th June?
55 per cent: YES
28 per cent: NO
17 per cent: DON'T KNOW

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?
How many people over the voting age were asked?
Polls are for TROLLS...............answers are not reflective on the whole of the British public mate.

There's a saying that 90% of a poll is 'researched' on the spot.

[cut]

how many people were interviewd in the poll?1000?,10000.or 1 Million?

I guess only those reporters working for the guardian :D
just kidding

Actually


Professor Colin Francombe, of Middlesex University, who commissioned the survey...

So how many people were part of the Poll then?
Unless it was 58 million then it does not represent the Population of the UK ;)

Polls like this are using more than 1000 People. Its the same technique used before elections, and they are usually more precise than 1.5%.

Of course nobody forces you to acknowledge that outcome as true. You can do your own next time you are sitting with your buddies in the pub, and believe in that. :lol:

Utter ****e!!.....prove it

a lot of money goes into market research, companies want to get an accurate idea of what people want. The same companies often do polls for the government or newspapers. So although never 100% accurate they are very good indicators of the what the whole population thinks because so much work is put into getting unbiased information.

If polls were bollocks and didn't represent the population the companies that do them wouldn't exist because no-one would pay for that service.

[Argyll]

Polls are not always as accurate as they claim,what about "Polls indicate a high turnout is expected"........only to be proven wrong.

"Polls predict a landslide".........only to find the opposite

As I've also said there not much difference with this poll and the polls conducted pre/post war.

Polls are NOT represntative of the UK populus either,especially if they're only done in England ;)

Was the Poll conducted on The readers?,and how many were polled?
Unless the number's are specified they're inconclusive,and not representative.

A poll of 1000 people across the UK is still notpresentative,the more involve then the greater the accuracy is it not?

[OldRecon]

ok let s pull out everyone out of iraq . We know the consequences of that ! civil war and new camps for Al Qaeda

Yeah you're somewhat right there unfortunately :|, so a third military expetion into the place isn't all that unthinkable.
Though this third time one can at least go in with a better excuse than the "I'll finish dad's job daydreams of Bush jr. and the absurd idea of bringing democracy to another country at gunpoint".
Though then one would also have to be prepared to use Roman COIN tactis in order to succeed. And if you think the recent prison scandal looks awfull it will pale in comparison with the Roman way. But why then bother when one doesn't have the stomach in the first place to kill 1/3 of the entire population in Iraq, enslave another 1/3 and replace the dead 1/3 with some more reliable colonist subjects than the left ove 1/3.
That is the only way I can see any posibilities in winning anything in Iraq.
Long live Pax Romana!

[king_nothing100]

I'm for the war, withdrawing would have no benifit for Iraq at all. Most of the people who vote in these polls are either anti war hippies, armchair generals, and a few people who see that withdrawl will have no positive outcome.

[mustamato]

Polls are not always as accurate as they claim,what about "Polls indicate a high turnout is expected"........only to be proven wrong.

Ok, just to please you we can take away 10% from yes and give those to the noers.
The yes-side would still be in the lead.



Polls are NOT represntative of the UK populus either,especially if they're only done in England ;)

A suggestion for you Argyll is that you actually read the article.


...The opposition is shared by at least 55 per cent of voters in Scotland, the North, the Midlands and the South.

[Argyll]

Ok here's what I found out about this Poll


Fifty-five percent of the 1,001 adults surveyed said troops should be withdrawn once sovereignty is handed over to the interim Iraqi government June 30, according to the poll, which was done for The Independent newspaper.


The survey by the polling company NOP was based on telephone interviews with 1,001 adults between April 30 and May 2. It had a margin of error of about 3 percentage points.



Now you tell me that out of 1001 from as you say Scotland,The North,The Midlands and the South, No Northern Irealnd or Wales mentione either by telephone,is representative of the populus of the UK?

Bull ****!!.
It's not the percentages that I queried but the numbers and you cannot tell me that at what less than 0.001% of the poplulation of Britain reflects a representation of the whole of the UK?
Thats like saying 8-10 posters want to see you banned,it would depend on those asked,I might ask 10 guys I know and they'd say 10/10 posters want you banned,then you might say wait a minute I have 10 friends who would disagree,asking less than 1% of the forum members is NOT reflective of the majority is it?
This is what I'm getting at,1001 people surveyed without knowing their backgrounds is inconclusive,they could've had 600 Muslims in that Poll,they could have had 200 people who were Not British by birth,all these things need to be taken into consideration.

Musty I read the article and like I said,not much difference from Post/Pre war stance

[mustamato]

And you don´t think that those 1001 people were specially choosen because of their representativity?

[Argyll]

Don't know I didn't conduct it!

Ok read this link about Polls in the UK and just see what a pile of ****e they are

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13175114_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-BRITISH-PUBLIC-HAVE-LOST-FAITH-IN-TONY-BLAIR-name_page.html

especially the UK publics views on the WMD,this will be the same public represented in the Topic poll. ;)

[Roger Rabbit]

How can you choose 1001 people to represent 58 million and then claim the results to be indisputable proof of what that 58 million people think?

[mack pl]

How can you choose 1001 people to represent 58 million and then claim the results to be indisputable proof of what that 58 million people think?He is scandinavian, they could do everything they want ;) :lol:

[mustamato]

How can you choose 1001 people to represent 58 million and then claim the results to be indisputable proof of what that 58 million people think?

In example based on where they live, how much they earn. How many children
they have, what they do for living, how many cars they have etc. Stuff like that can
easily be checked up. Representativity laddy.

[RomanS]

Argyll
IT IS NOT WORTH STRETCHIN YOUR NERVES, and paying attention to those Scandinavian assholes.

[Argyll]

Argyll
IT IS NOT WORTH STRETCHIN YOUR NERVES, and paying attention to those Scandinavian assholes.

rofl

[usa320]

Dont waste your time agryll.

Mustamato is a stubborn jackass, nothing you do will change that.

[cut]

Don't know I didn't conduct it!

Ok read this link about Polls in the UK and just see what a pile of ****e they are

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13175114_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-BRITISH-PUBLIC-HAVE-LOST-FAITH-IN-TONY-BLAIR-name_page.html

especially the UK publics views on the WMD,this will be the same public represented in the Topic poll. ;)

that's a tabloid though, where was the one form the start of the thread from?
Tabloid polls are people who text in which is obviously biased not leased because british papers are so opinionated.

[Argyll]

The poll was from the "Independant"