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TheStorm
08-13-2007, 02:34 PM
Window of GOP opportunity?

Donald Lambro
August 13, 2007

Worsening disapproval scores for the Democrats in Congress have spawned partywide fears that voter alienation could give Republicans a chance to make a comeback in 2008. The Democrats' tumbling voter-approval numbers haven't drawn much attention on the nightly news shows, but they have stirred warnings in the party's inner circles and raised hopes among Republican strategists for the first time since last year's election rout drove them from power.

A string of independent polls in the past two weeks tells the story:

A nationwide Pew Research Center poll found barely 33 percent of Americans surveyed "approve of the job performance of the Democratic Congress." Equally disturbing to Democrats, their party's leadership "can claim just a 62 percent approval score among Democrats."

The Gallup Poll reported "that 55 percent of Americans disapprove of Democrats in Congress." These and other internal polls have sent tremors through Democratic ranks, and campaign strategists warn their party to start taking them seriously before it's too late. "Democrats should not be for complacency in the face of lost trust in Congress and perceptions that the new Congress is not effective or honoring its pledges," party advisers James Carville and Stan Greenberg warned in a midyear strategy memo to Democratic leaders.

Republican numbers are not any better. But the "Democrats should not relish an increasingly alienated electorate on any grounds; increasing alienation from both parties can drive down turnout and create protest voters looking for other vehicles for change," the two said.

That points to fear of a third-party presidential candidacy that could hurt Democratic chances to win back the White House and undermine their tenuous hold on Congress — a fear no longer dismissed by party leaders.

The testy political climate can hurt both parties, they said. "The mood of the country grows uglier... and the Democratic Congress and leaders have lost some of the earlier glow; a 55 percent majority believes Democrats have not made progress on their election pledges," the memo said.

Until now, Democrats have blamed their declining poll ratings on the party's failure to legislate a troop-withdrawal deadline in the Iraq war. "The Democrats are frustrated. They want the war to end quicker than it appears it will," a senior party official told me.

But the finer polling data and reports from the party's grassroots base suggest voter angst runs deeper than that. They see a party engaged in vengeful inquisitions against the Bush administration that have yielded no evidence of wrongdoing, while poisoning the political atmosphere and sinking Congress deeper into legislative gridlock.

A wave of Democratic investigations "creates the perception they are launching witch-hunts," said David Wasserman, House elections analyst at the Cook Political Report.

A Greenberg poll accompanying the Carville-Greenberg memo noted ominously "that, faced with the current gridlock, 12 percent want to vote for an independent candidate for president or Congress, a fairly impressive base for an independent candidacy." Worse, they added, "almost a third of independents are ready to respond in this way. The situation in Washington does have consequences, which is why Democrats have an obligation to address the mood" that has alienated voters.

The Democrats' mediocre approval ratings and restive political base have clearly buoyed Republican spirits, particularly at the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC).

"Such widespread dissatisfaction is creating a palpable sense of panic among Democrats," the NRCC crowed in a memo last week in response to the Carville-Greenberg warnings.

An NRCC internal poll of likely voters in 50 targeted Democratic-held districts fuels Republicans' hopes they will benefit from Democrats' troubles. It showed, among other things, that "voters are not only frustrated with the new majority's inability to get things done but that voters are not at all loyal to their current Democrat member and are in a firing mood."

The poll found "only 35 percent of the voters say they will vote to re-elect their current Democratic congressman in these districts. Half — 50 percent — prefer someone new."

Another bullish sign for the GOP, House candidate recruitment "is way up," officials told me.

Mr. Carville and Mr. Greenberg disagreed, citing their own polling of 1,451 likely voters July 25-30 in 35 key congressional districts that show their incumbents holding "dramatic leads" over any Republican challenger. But none of the polls may mean much until one can match real live candidates against one another in the general election.

Clearly, congressional Democrats and their leaders have failed to meet the minimum expectations of the voters who elected them, as the latest poll numbers attest. This opens a window of opportunity for Republicans and the White House to sharpen issues that will help strengthen their grass-roots support and boost their share of independent swing voters who are up for grabs.

Still, Mr. Wasserman thinks a lot will depend on how the Iraq war plays out and whether it will dwindle as an issue if, as administration officials have been saying, preliminary troop withdrawals begin next year. "We could see anything from a handful of small gains for Republicans in the House or a handful of Democratic gains," he said.

Donald Lambro, chief political correspondent of The Washington Times, is a nationally syndicated columnist.

Source (http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070813/COMMENTARY05/108130019/1012/commentary).

vinny_121_ND
08-13-2007, 06:23 PM
I think it's way too early to tell until the debates begin. The democrats need to rally together and not against each other if they want to win.

MichaelF
08-13-2007, 06:46 PM
The Democrats will be at each other's throats until the Primaries are over ("There can be only One!").

If they keep up their string of losing horses (Immigration, Iraq Pullout, etc), I see a '94-style resurgence of the GOP.

Ordie
08-13-2007, 07:13 PM
The GOP will always define themselves in terms of what they oppose.
They have nothing new to offer.

The GOP base is a tripod of the
1) Religious Right
2) Big Business
3) Nationalists

For a tripod to stand, it needs three legs.
From the looks of it, I see at least one leg missing.

To reform the party, the GOP may need the help of immigrants.
More specifically an immigrant governor in California.

SBL
08-13-2007, 07:15 PM
The GOP will always define themselves in terms of what they oppose.
They have nothing new to offer.


Boy that sounds familiar. And I'm not thinking of the GOP.

JJC
08-13-2007, 07:22 PM
The GOP will always define themselves in terms of what they oppose.
They have nothing new to offer.

The GOP base is a tripod of the
1) Religious Right
2) Big Business
3) Nationalists

For a tripod to stand, it needs three legs.

Well the above 3 are like the 3 legs of the tripod no? I think it's worse with the Dems cause they don't have a basic unified theme of what they want to do...

Ordie
08-13-2007, 07:40 PM
Well the above 3 are like the 3 legs of the tripod no? I think it's worse with the Dems cause they don't have a basic unified theme of what they want to do...

They never had to.

They don't need to.

Getting tied up to a specific ideolology, manifesto, or values may leave the political party little or no room to compromise in terms of setting policy.

SBL
08-13-2007, 07:46 PM
They never had to.

They don't need to.

Getting tied up to a specific ideolology, manifesto, or values may leave the political party little or no room to compromise in terms of setting policy.


n***a please

All parties change with the times.

Ordie
08-13-2007, 08:06 PM
All parties change with the times.

Perhaps so, but the GOP strategy during the recent elections has viewed the US in terms of "Blue vs. Red". When in fact the country is purple.

This strategy has backfired and as a result, has turned a local issues mid-term election into a national parlamentary style elections.

SBL
08-13-2007, 08:12 PM
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grenadier07
08-14-2007, 06:29 AM
Are any of us willing to completely trust a group of people who have the ability to vote themselves a pay raise once a year. Not saying that all politicians are bad but I think the biggest players in the bunch are getting drunk off of power and being in the spotlight almost constantly, instead of doing taking care of the jobs at hand. Still plenty of stuff that needs fixing around here.

Shellshock1918
08-14-2007, 08:25 AM
The GOP will always define themselves in terms of what they oppose.
They have nothing new to offer.

The GOP base is a tripod of the
1) Religious Right
2) Big Business
3) Nationalists

For a tripod to stand, it needs three legs.
From the looks of it, I see at least one leg missing.

To reform the party, the GOP may need the help of immigrants.
More specifically an immigrant governor in California.

Oh please.

What we need is someone who is willing to go back to principle and our Constitution not this ignorant neo-conservative ideology.

Ron Paul 2008.