When are we going to take this sucker out?

[Sir Zach of R.]

It's totally mind-boggling. I hear that the only way the fighting will stop in Fallujah is by killing Sadr. So why the hell don't we just post a couple of SF snipers 600 yards from the mosque he goes to, and when he comes out, shoot him in the fricking head? Is it because the CiNC doesn't like the use of Special Ops? I know Franks didn't but I'm not sure about the current commander of CENTCOM. I'm just looking for answers. I'm not the only one asking these questions. Former Green Beret MAJ. Bob Bevelaqua commented on FNC the other day nearly the exact same things I've said. Let's just take this bastard out from a distance and call it a day.

[Tane Angle]

I don't know if Franks quite deserved the tactically-conservative stance people attribute to him. But John Abizaid, like Franks, is a smart man.

We can't take Sadr out because it is insulting to the Shias. We seriously risk engraging the moderate Shias if we move against Sadr.

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[mack pl]

It's totally mind-boggling. I hear that the only way the fighting will stop in Fallujah is by killing Sadr. So why the hell don't we just post a couple of SF snipers 600 yards from the mosque he goes to, and when he comes out, shoot him in the fricking head? Is it because the CiNC doesn't like the use of Special Ops? I know Franks didn't but I'm not sure about the current commander of CENTCOM. I'm just looking for answers. I'm not the only one asking these questions. Former Green Beret MAJ. Bob Bevelaqua commented on FNC the other day nearly the exact same things I've said. Let's just take this bastard out from a distance and call it a day.Well, i think US generals(Abizaid) must think twice before they decided to kill Al-Sadr.Who knows what happens when SF kill Sadr.Maybe shiits will attack Us force stronger than until now.Its not such simple.US command must think about that, but personally i doubt they decided to kill Sadr.Regards.

[Mamon]

We can't take Sadr out because it is insulting to the Shias. We seriously risk engraging the moderate Shias if we move against Sadr.

We can't take out someone who's called an uprising against the coalition and offered money for the heads of coalition leaders, and promotes the capture and enslavement of coalition women? Moderate my rear, anyone who's angered by his death isn't moderate!

[Khabbi]

Lets get Israel to do it , they have a special talent for taking out these sort of dudes .

I actulaly thought they killed him today , his face was on the news but I dident catch the full story. Ah well theres always a tomorow

[Trident-za]

I don't know if Franks quite deserved the tactically-conservative stance people attribute to him. But John Abizaid, like Franks, is a smart man.

We can't take Sadr out because it is insulting to the Shias. We seriously risk engraging the moderate Shias if we move against Sadr.

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

I agree with this post...

Just out of curiosity, what has Sadr got to do with Falluja? Am I wrong in thinking that a Shia "holyman" has little to do with a Sunni city? (I admit I may have my "facts" mixed up here)

[Argyll]

I don't know if Franks quite deserved the tactically-conservative stance people attribute to him. But John Abizaid, like Franks, is a smart man.

We can't take Sadr out because it is insulting to the Shias. We seriously risk engraging the moderate Shias if we move against Sadr.

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

I agree with this post...

Just out of curiosity, what has Sadr got to do with Falluja? Am I wrong in thinking that a Shia "holyman" has little to do with a Sunni city? (I admit I may have my "facts" mixed up here)

You'd be right,he's more a Najaf man,but Fallujah is a ****hole,it always was and always will be ;)

[AirZone]

Lets get Israel to do it , they have a special talent for taking out these sort of dudes .

I actulaly thought they killed him today , his face was on the news but I dident catch the full story. Ah well theres always a tomorow

Some one called ? :lol: *opens a black suitcase with laser guided system for the Apaches*

[SeanAshi]

Some one called ? *opens a black suitcase with laser guided system for the Apaches*Send him out like Yehya Ayyash woot

[scm77]

Sadr needs to be Sharowned. :bash:

[SEALInTheMaking]

It's a much more touchy situation then people think. If we kill Sadr, we run the risk of him becoming a martyr. A "hero", being struck down by an enemy can be more inspiring to followers then a living man. We need to capture him and let the Iraqi's put him on trial.

[CRAZY MERC]

Do you guys know what name Falloojah stands for and what it means to arabs?

[American Patriot]

Fallujah means 'good for farming' in Arabic.

[ExtraT]

A lot of people around here make the mistake of fearing to "provoke them".

In Arab culture, the biggest provocation is a show of weakness, and they consider things like compassion, non-aggressiveness and even morality a weakness.
By not dealing with Sadr, you will only invite more aggression. Come on people, he CHALLANGED the coalition - if you don't respond to it you've lost.

Oh, and another thing: contrary to common misconception, "martyrs" are not created in death - they are created in life. Sadr is already a "martyr", just like Yassin was many years before he was killed.

[Nizark]

what if we had a sniper fire a paintball right between his eyes? u think that would get the point across to him that we can kill him at anytime? Maybe to give him a moment of pause

[ExtraT]

what if we had a sniper fire a paintball right between his eyes? u think that would get the point across to him that we can kill him at anytime? Maybe to give him a moment of pause

And what would that accomplish, besides showing him that you are afraid to kill him? :roll:

[Kilgor]

a bit of humour ;)

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/457_1083126387_muqtada.jpg

[bishop1]

Yeah, i mean we are already fighting over there anyways, the people were fighting hate us already, what are they gonna do worse if we kill him? If they wanted to do something bad and drastic it seems like theyd do it anyways, not in response to anything, cuz they hate us already, it doesnt seem like anything worse could happen if we killed him, but it might falter the resistance.

[sla8485]

If the US believes that the situation will become more unstable if Sadr is killed, then isn't that openly admitting they won't be able/willing to deal with the result?
I'm no General, but it seems like we'd have to deal with some more violence, hopefully for a short time, that in the long run would be stemmed by the more moderate Shiite Elders (moderate, Shiite, in the same sentence?)
US Servicemen are dying regularly over there, the US public has to accept the fact that in a war, casualties are inevitable. My biggest concern is that the political atmosphere that is developing due to both the Shiite uprisings, and more recently the issues at the prison (which piss off the Muslims even more then before.) are going to pave the way for a less dedicated mission over there. I hate to think that the US/UK/allies will withdraw too soon, and allow for that country to quickly succumb to chaos.

[SeanAshi]

Kennedy Defends Vietnam Analogy rofl

I hate to think that the US/UK/allies will withdraw too soon, and allow for that country to quickly succumb to chaos.Well...thats what the democrats want...Kerry..Kennedy..Dachle

[sethen]

It's totally mind-boggling. I hear that the only way the fighting will stop in Fallujah is by killing Sadr. So why the hell don't we just post a couple of SF snipers 600 yards from the mosque he goes to, and when he comes out, shoot him in the fricking head? Is it because the CiNC doesn't like the use of Special Ops? I know Franks didn't but I'm not sure about the current commander of CENTCOM. I'm just looking for answers. I'm not the only one asking these questions. Former Green Beret MAJ. Bob Bevelaqua commented on FNC the other day nearly the exact same things I've said. Let's just take this bastard out from a distance and call it a day.

Damn good question! I would say that this "war" has all the characteristics of being politically motivated. Being such, it must be said that Vietnam was political and we have shown as much apptitude at this "war" as we did at that "war." Really, we are looking like amateurs! :cantbeli:

Franks Fu#ked up A-stan!!!!!!!!

[Sir Zach of R.]

I don't agree that both wars were politacally motivated, but I do agree with what you said about Franks. I believe he did a kick-ass job in Iraq, but Franks is more of a "heavy metal" commander. That's what he said about Afghanistan, in that it should be fought with Abrams and Bradleys (Not a very well thought out statement.) The one inceident I think everyone knows about is when Delta tried to capture Mullah Omar in S. A-stan. The force involved an entire squadron of soldiers. In the end, I think it was around a dozen operators were wounded. The force was big, slow, and stupid.