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Navid
05-10-2004, 11:21 PM
America is very lucky that spain military is running away like little girls.. may they live as the cowards they are under the feet of osama post 3-11.. why america wants this country who is going out of its way to undermine usa is beyond me..

Spain says wouldn't hand over Iraqi cleric
MADRID, May 10 (*******) - Spanish forces in Iraq refused a request, apparently from the United States, to hand over "dead or alive" an Iraqi religious leader if they encountered him, Defence Minister Jose Bono was quoted as saying on Monday.

"The occupying countries can engage in offensive actions. But coalition countries like Spain cannot participate in offensive actions and therefore we said categorically that we were not prepared to hand over dead or alive -- as we were asked to do at one point -- a certain religious leader," Bono was quoted as saying by Europa Press news agency.

Bono did not say if he was referring to rebel Muslim cleric Moqtada al-Sadr who has led an uprising against the U.S.-led occupation. He also did say who made the request, but appeared to be referring to U.S. forces who have vowed to kill or capture Sadr.

Spain is withdrawing forces from Iraq in line with an electoral pledge by Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who won power in March shortly after the Madrid train bombings.

Sadr's stronghold is in the Shi'ite holy city of Najaf, south of Baghdad, where Spanish forces were present until it recently concentrated troops in Diwaniya prior to departure. Bono said Spanish troops in Iraq were "subject to international law, which prevents us being an occupying and offensive force."

He said Spaniards could be sure their troops had not mistreated any Iraqi prisoner.

He said U.S. forces would take control of the remaining Spanish base in Diwaniya by May 17 and said all Spanish troops were likely to be out of Iraq before May 27.



05/10/04 19:55 ET

Merik
05-10-2004, 11:26 PM
What a crock. That doesnt mean we are trying to undermine the Spanish troops that are out there. You got a source for this article?

Bombtrack
05-10-2004, 11:40 PM
I don't think it's fair to ever say a country's army is cowardly. It's the politicians who are weak in the knees.

So Navid - sum the **** up because talk like that just shows that you've probably never served.

Kilgor
05-10-2004, 11:46 PM
dont blame the soliders, blame the politicans that issue the orders

SeanAshi
05-11-2004, 12:12 AM
Damn socialist or is it Marxist?

Khabbi
05-11-2004, 12:14 AM
Im sure the soldiers wanted to stay , but the new goverment dident want them there , I belive that that was the new goverments driving point in the election . I think its simple ass hell , the old gov wanted them there and the new gov doesent .

I dont think its right to call them cowards , why would the US want em there in the first place if they were cowards ? .

Ichhabe
05-11-2004, 12:16 AM
I dont think its right to call them cowards , why would the US want em there in the first place if they were cowards ? .

Because Navid is a flame warrior. And he doesn't want us to know where his from either.

AFG
05-11-2004, 12:38 AM
I think the Spanish are hell of a soldiers... u should rename the Topic to something less flamebaity :(

786mine
05-11-2004, 12:47 AM
I don't think it's fair to ever say a country's army is cowardly. It's the politicians who are weak in the knees.

So Navid - sum the f*** up because talk like that just shows that you've probably never served.

Good point. What mattoigta is saying is like, the USMC are this and that, but that is not true. The soilders are just doing what they are suppose to do, follow the chain of command. So mattoigta, shut your pie hole. :bash:

Navid
05-11-2004, 01:27 AM
u know this is the 3rd time these cowards have done this.. first of i never said EVERY SOILDER in spains military serving in iraq are cowards.. im talking about the spanish poeple in general.. who ran away and elected socailists because they got scared.. but thats not the point here..

a while back.. a el salvadorian with hes dead buddies around him HAD TO charge a bunch of armed iraqis with a knife beacuse he ran out of bullets and no one came to help him... and in the story he said that the spaniards didnt lift a FINGER to help them while they were being attacked by the iraqis..

you have the spanish population caving into osama.. you have the spanish army abondoning dying soilders allies on the battlefield NOW you have an article basically saying.. that if spain ever caught a terrorist they would NOT hand thme over the usa.. WHAT HELL ELSE DO U WANT?? i call it the way i see it!! i dont sugar coat it!