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NcDeuce
05-11-2004, 01:37 AM
Judge: Grenade Defendant Must Not Doze

FORT BRAGG, N.C. (AP) -- An Army sergeant accused in a deadly grenade attack on his fellow soldiers fell asleep twice Monday during a pretrial hearing, causing an annoyed military judge to order defense attorneys to deal with the man's sleep disorder.

Col. Patrick Parrish expressed frustration that he had to tell defense lawyers to wake up Sgt. Hasan Akbar as the defendant dozed at a courtroom table.

"It should have been something you brought to my attention," Parrish said. "I shouldn't have had to bring it to your attention."

Akbar, 32, is charged with attacking a group of fellow 101st Airborne Division soldiers and others in Kuwait during the opening days of the Iraq war. Two people were killed and 14 were wounded.

It is the first time since the Vietnam War that a U.S. Army soldier has been prosecuted for the murder or attempted murder of another soldier during wartime, the Army has said.

Akbar's attorneys argued that the judge should order the government to provide treatment to their client for sleep apnea, a condition that causes sufferers to periodically stop breathing while asleep and can often make people drowsy in a quiet or monotonous environment.

"If that treatment is not in place by the next proceeding, what can we do to keep him awake?" defense attorney Wazir Ali Muhammad Al-Hakk said. "The court ordered us to see that he stays awake, and we believe that is beyond our power."

In other developments, defense lawyers complained that everyone in the pool of potential Army jurors outranks Akbar, whose court-martial is set to begin July 12.

They also asked that the death-penalty trial be moved or that jurors be chosen from another branch of the military.

"This offense received worldwide coverage at the time when everyone's attention was focused on what was happening in Kuwait," defense lawyer Capt. David Coombs said. "Any Army member who heard this had a visceral response."

Capt. Rob McGovern, one of three military prosecutors, said there was no evidence that any potential jurors have been influenced by the publicity. He said panel members already selected for the pool promised that they wouldn't expose themselves to coverage of the case.

Parrish did not rule immediately on the defense motions and recessed the hearing until May 24.

Prosecutors allege that Akbar stole seven grenades from a Humvee he was guarding on March 23, 2003, and used them in the attack an hour later. Akbar's lawyers have said there were no witnesses to the crime and Akbar was accused because he is Muslim.

Although the 101st Airborne is based at Fort Campbell, Ky., the case was transferred to Fort Bragg last year because the division was deployed in Iraq. The 101st has since returned.


http://users.lmi.net/zombie/sf_rally_april_10_2004/signs/120-2070_IMG.JPG

This image makes my blood boil. If you don't remember, Hasan Akbar (stationed here at Ft. Campbell, KY) is a Black Muslim assigned to the 101st Airborne Division. While the troops were stationed in Kuwait waiting for orders, Akbar slipped into the unit's Command Post at night and rolled several grenades and fired shots from his weapon, badly injuring many and killing two...

http://www.theleafchronicle.com/news/iraq/101/seifert,%20chris.jpg

http://www.lakelandvietnow.org/gstone.jpg


I would not hesitate to shoot this man between his damn eyes, he can rot in hell. Pardon my strong language. What opinions do yall have?

WolverineBlue
05-11-2004, 02:09 AM
Life imprisonment with the customary 12 hours of hard labor everyday at Leavenworth...I really can't think of anything worse.

catdat
05-11-2004, 02:11 AM
NcDeuce

Who's responsible for that Mutineer sign? I don't think he's worth a bucket of spit.

catdat

Khabbi
05-11-2004, 03:00 AM
I dont belive in the death pen , so Life in prison . They should have shot him when the were on to him . Not sure how the security in Leavenworth is but he might get shanked.

catdat
05-11-2004, 09:15 AM
It's tight in Leavenworth Khabbi. I had to deliver a prisoner to Manheim once and that was an eye opener. In a real Regular Army prison (i.e. not National Guard run) security and discipline are so tight I think prisoner saftey would be pretty high. Still no picnic - I was one straight trooper after seeing the inside of that place.

Michael RVR
05-11-2004, 09:16 AM
I don't think he shot anyone, but the story i heard was that there was quite a number of grenades thrown.

IIRC he'd been told he wasn't going in with the rest of the division.

Delta Niner
05-11-2004, 11:49 PM
NcDeuce

Who's responsible for that Mutineer sign? I don't think he's worth a bucket of spit.

catdat

Catdat,
It will be too hard to fill a bucket with spit :)

about Akbar just shoot him and get it over with, he had killed fellow soldiers and injured many more.

Merik
05-11-2004, 11:58 PM
You know NcDuece I was reading that article in todays Tennessean and the first thought that went through my mind is that this guy is a farse. There is no way in hell he would be in the 101st let alone the military if he had a sleeping apnea.

NcDeuce
05-12-2004, 12:30 AM
^

Yeah this guy is a total joke. I feel terrible for the troops and family of the slain soldiers and the ones that the media does not cover...the troops who were badly injured and will forever live without some of their limbs.

catdat,

That image came from a liberal-homo******-anti-war rally out in San Francisco not too long ago.

Merik
05-12-2004, 12:44 AM
^

Yeah this guy is a total joke. I feel terrible for the troops and family of the slain soldiers and the ones that the media does not cover...the troops who were badly injured and will forever live without some of their limbs.

catdat,

That image came from a liberal-homo******-anti-war rally out in San Francisco not too long ago.

What is everyone thinking up in Clarksville, I mean the normal joes?

anonymous individual
05-12-2004, 01:39 AM
This Akbar dude well deserves to be shot dead.

Haiw
05-12-2004, 07:14 AM
Yup...the guy never shoulda made it into court.

catdat
05-12-2004, 11:09 AM
NcDeuce

he troops who were badly injured and will forever live without some of their limbs.

One of my Buds was a quad in the VA hospital in Miami and I used to go down there quite a bit. There's a ward just for them. A couple of times I talked some girls from hooters into going with me and those guys really appreciate it a lot. I set up a computer for my Bud with a mike and dragondictate so he could surf the web. I haven't been down in a while because he passed away last year but now that you mention it maybe I'll start going again and volunteer my services. thanks Ncdeuce

NcDeuce
07-14-2004, 11:13 AM
"How did the enemy get into our camp?"

That's what Bart Womack, a command sergeant major of the elite 101st Airborne Division, asked himself as a grenade rolled past him after 1 a.m. on Sunday at an American camp in Kuwait.

The attacker worked methodically, destroying an electricity generator, throwing grenades into Womack's tent and the two other command tents, then shooting tents. One soldier died and 15 sustained injuries.

The enemy in this case appears to be not what one might expect - an Iraqi soldier or a Kuwaiti Islamist. The only suspect in custody is Hasan Karim Akbar, 31, a sergeant in the 101st Airborne Division.

If Akbar were responsible for the rampage, what might be his motivation? First reports suggest that, as a devout African-American convert to Islam, he identifies with the Iraqi enemy against his fellow soldiers.

The Los Angeles Times quotes him stating, after he was apprehended, "You guys are coming into our countries, and you're going to rape our women and kill our children."

NBC found that he "was opposed to the killing of Muslims and opposed to the war in Iraq." ******* quotes one source saying, "He's a Muslim, and it seems he was just against the war," while another told the news agency that the violence was "politically motivated."

There is evidence to suggest that Akbar expected to get in trouble even before he arrived in Kuwait. His former stepfather quotes him saying that Akbar "did not want to fight in this war, he didn't want to go over there." A neighbor explains why: "America shouldn't be going," Akbar told him; he judged it not "right" to attack Iraq. And his mother quotes him: "Mama, when I get over there I have the feeling they are going to arrest me just because of the name that I have carried."

This incident raises two issues.

First, the U.S. government's initial response indicates that, once again, it is ascribing violence by an American Muslim to purely personal causes. Here's its take on prior homicides:

* "A prescription drug for or consistent with depression" to explain why El Sayyid A. Nosair in 1990 shot Rabbi Meir Kahane.

* "Road rage" to explain why Rashid Baz in 1994 shot a Hassidic boy on the Brooklyn Bridge.

* "Many, many enemies in his mind" to explain why Ali Hasan Abu Kamal in 1997 shot a tourist on the Empire State Building's observation deck.

* "A work dispute" as why Hesham Mohamed Ali Hadayet in 2002 shot two people at the El Al counter of Los Angeles International Airport.

Akbar in 2003? U.S. Army spokespersons talk variously about an "attitude problem," a desire for "retribution" and "resentment."

The chief chaplain at Akbar's Fort Campbell, Ky., home base announces (completely without evidence) that the incident is "not an expression of faith."

No one yet knows Akbar's motives, but ignoring that it fits into a sustained pattern of political violence by American Muslims amounts to willful self-deception. When will officialdom acknowledge what is staring it in the face?

Its avoidance of reality has real consequences, increasing the dangers Americans face. "This country's officials are in a state of denial and confusion that is almost as frightening as the terrorism they are supposed to be fighting," observes Dennis Prager, only slightly exaggerating.

Second, the Akbar incident points to the suspect allegiance of some Muslims in government. The case of Gamal Abdel-Hafiz recently surfaced: an FBI agent whose colleagues say he twice refused to record conversations with suspected financiers of militant Islamic terrorism ("A Muslim does not record another Muslim"). [The Seattle Times reports three witnesses recalling that John Allen Muhammad, the man accused of the Washington, D.C.-area sniper murders last fall, had thrown a grenade into a tent during the 1991 war against Iraq.] Other cases are under investigation.

All of which reinforces what I wrote in January: "There is no escaping the unfortunate fact that Muslim government employees in law enforcement, the military and the diplomatic corps need to be watched for connections to terrorism, as do Muslim chaplains in prisons and the armed forces. Muslim visitors and immigrants must undergo additional background checks. Mosques require a scrutiny beyond that applied to churches and temples."

As Sgt. Womack noted, the enemy has already managed to "get into our camp." Do we have the will to stop him before he strikes again?

Updates
If evidence points to a terrorist motive, the F.B.I. would most likely open a full investigation, officials said. But "at this point," a law enforcement official in Los Angeles said, "I don't think there's anything that's pointing to that as the motive."
-- The New York Times, Mar. 26, 2003.

U.S. Air Force Capt. Mark Wisher, the Northern Kentuckian injured during a grenade attack carried out by a member of his own unit in Kuwait, is back home in Tennessee, comfortable but not content. … Because the incident is still under investigation, Wisher can say little about what happened that night in the Kuwaiti desert. But he did call it "a terrorist attack, the kind of terrorism we are trying to keep from our homeland."
-- The Cincinnati Enquirer, April 8, 2003

U.S. intelligence and security officials fear attacks by Muslim U.S. soldiers opposed to the war in Iraq in the wake of a fatal grenade attack in Kuwait blamed on a Muslim soldier in the Army. "There is concern that this may not be an isolated incident," said one intelligence official familiar with the investigation of Sgt. Asan Akbar.
-- The Washington Times, April 9, 2003

I believe Akbar should be put to death in the most painful way possible. This man does not deserve to live. He took away two fine young officers. Dispicable.


Upcoming courts-martials

The courts-martial of two Fort Campbell soldiers will begin soon according to Army officials.

Sgt. Hasan Akbar is scheduled to be tried Aug. 2 at Fort Bragg, N.C., according to 18th Airborne Corps public affairs officer Col. Billy Buckner. Akbar is charged with throwing grenades into tents at Camp Pennsylvania, Kuwait, killing two officers and injuring 14 other soldiers.

At Fort Campbell, the court-martial of Sgt. 1st Class James Williams was scheduled to start Monday but has been postponed, according to post spokesman John Minton. Williams is accused of commandeering a sheik's SUV at gunpoint in Iraq during the combat phase of Operation Iraqi Freedom in April 2003.

gilgoul
07-14-2004, 12:01 PM
In a bare and small room
Take a hand grenade
remove the pin
give it to HAssan Akbar
of shove it in his ass

wait to see how long he can stay without sleeping

feed his remains to the pigs

Deny pension to any of his heir/family

Shoot on view any carrier of this repugnant poster qualkifying akbar of a "muteneer" and calling on his release.