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Marmot1
05-11-2004, 10:55 AM
Please calm down..

In recent days you locked so many threads that it looks like good old commie censorship in worst edition is on this forum on a daily basis.

I can uderstand locking for cursing, posting graphic or disrespectfull images but you started to lock every thread that do not follow your political point of view. I can uderstand that this forum is not european nor african but where is so beloved by americans "Freedom of speach"?

Having only one official and true version smells like mid 80's poland where you could end in jail ( get banned) for thinking in other way than officialy aproved by Party Commitet.

Fintin
05-11-2004, 11:04 AM
it smells like burning....read the rules buddy and you will see that flamebaiting is lockable....
6. Don't hijack a good conversation thread with an off-topic political or flame war. Posts of this nature will be deleted from now on...some of these threads were "on topic" but the topic was off topic for this forum....now go eat a dead hooker

Argyll
05-11-2004, 11:06 AM
Bull****!!
Read the reasons for them being locked,they are there,then go and read the Forum rules about Flamewars.

Trolls and flamers are posting topics for this very purpose.

If you have a problem with this,either PM me or Hood,as to which several have and the reasons explained to them.

For those who have taken the time to PM me about my reasons thanks.

You would not believe the number of PM's I've had asking for those topics to be locked,and for those who hav ebeen offended.

Oh and as for this freedom of speach ****e............this site belongs to Hood,and you follow his rules,but when a certain few people are constantly ignoring warnings then I will do as I see fit,that's the perogative of being a moderator,I will answer to Hood,if he agree's then I will quit locking.

You want to try being a Moderator when the **** is flying around it's not easy and remember I do this in my spare time,and I'm not the only Mod who locks topics.

Quite simple follow the forum rules,show respect when warned and topics will not get locked..........not too difficult is it?

XASA
05-11-2004, 11:06 AM
Please calm down..

In recent days you locked so many threads that it looks like good old commie censorship in worst edition is on this forum on a daily basis.

I can uderstand locking for cursing, posting graphic or disrespectfull images but you started to lock every thread that do not follow your political point of view. I can uderstand that this forum is not european nor african but where is so beloved by americans "Freedom of speach"?

Having only one official and true version smells like mid 80's poland where you could end in jail ( get banned) for thinking in other way than officialy aproved by Party Commitet.

I think Argyll and the other mods are doing the right thing in trying to get militaryphotos.net back on track. The past few days have been remarkably free of flame wars and propaganda because they have been keeping the lid on tight.

mack pl
05-11-2004, 11:07 AM
:|

Argyll
05-11-2004, 11:09 AM
:|

And it's also considered ignorant making comments in your native tongue on an English speaking forum ;)

For all we know you could be trolling or starting a flame war ;)

HELEX
05-11-2004, 11:11 AM
Marmot1 is right about that, and you stated that Im not allowed to have a opinion about certain things because of "my country and its Past" what deserves a Nomination for the Bull**** award. And he attacks other Forum members too, just for having a different opinion. An he uses his Moderator Position to threaten persons in cases when something is Posted he personally dislikes.
In addition to that he uses unsuitable obscene Language.

mack pl
05-11-2004, 11:11 AM
:|

And it's also considered ignorant making comments in your native tongue on an English speaking forum ;)

For all we know you could be trolling or starting a flame war ;)Im only a human, sorry ;) :oops: :oops:

XASA
05-11-2004, 11:17 AM
Marmot1 is right about that, and you stated that Im not allowed to have a opinion about certain things because of "my country and its Past" what deserves a Nomination for the Bull**** award. And he attacks other Forum members too, just for having a different opinion. An he uses his Moderator Position to threaten persons in cases when something is Posted he personally dislikes.
In addition to that he uses unsuitable obscene Language.

Oh, poor, poor Helex! After months of your trashing the American military, its political system, its culture and its citizens, you still don't get it, do you? People don't come to militaryphotos.net for your opinion; in fact, it would be a better place without you or your opinions. Why don't you join a debate society or, better yet, go to your local pub and cry into your beer.

Argyll
05-11-2004, 11:25 AM
Marmot1 is right about that, and you stated that Im not allowed to have a opinion about certain things because of "my country and its Past" what deserves a Nomination for the Bull**** award. And he attacks other Forum members too, just for having a different opinion. An he uses his Moderator Position to threaten persons in cases when something is Posted he personally dislikes.
In addition to that he uses unsuitable obscene Language.



And when you make comments that you know nothing about ,and NEVER heed warnings from any of the Mods,then you're open to any criticism .

You have made your bed so lie in it,

And I do not use my Mod position to threaten people,I make it clear very clear,the reasons,but you ..........you think and act you're above it all,I've made no secret of my wish to see you gone from here,you've been disrespectful to the dead........everyone remembers your comments about the contractors in Fallujah.especially those who are in this business.
I'll apologise to the rest of the forum for my language ......but to you I would not give you ****..........you crossed too many lines,have repeatedly inflamed topics, you did not even look at the topic about the UK allegations this morning,instead you saw it as another opportunity to flame,not once saying Perhaps this article needs further investigation,who was the witness,you never even provided any answers on the questions I asked directly to you,.................oh no off you went,throwing fuel to the flames,you never post anything constructive,you never listen to those who have that knowledge,I make no bones about it.........I do not like you,I hate what you do to this site,I'm not alone ,but that's irrelevant.

I told you to beave in a respectful manner...............you did not.

I made the comment about YOU and your country,not directed at any other Germans here,but YOU,and I stand by what I said,you have the audacity to preach right and wrong?...........not in my book........not ever.

Hydro
05-11-2004, 11:26 AM
In addition to that he uses unsuitable obscene Language.

Awww, diddums...

ShotOver
05-11-2004, 11:27 AM
Rock on Argyll, bout time someone laid the smack down on these guys.
woot

AVZ
05-11-2004, 11:28 AM
Why is this thread not already closed


;)

mack pl
05-11-2004, 11:30 AM
Why is this thread not already closed


;)good one :)

shorty
05-11-2004, 11:30 AM
Argyll and all the mods should be applauded on their effort to keep this site free of crap. But I suppose there will always be a few bad apples in the bunch that ruin it for the rest of us. HELEX I've tried to be kind, civil, and even downright mean with you. But now I'm just going to ignore you and the rest of the miscreant trolls that seems to plague this site. That seems to be the only way that anyone will ever be able to get it into YOUR head that no one (not even your countrymen) like hearing a smarta$$ pencilneck jabbering on about some crazy notion he had pop into his brain while he was drinking.

Piotrek
05-11-2004, 11:30 AM
Im only a human, sorry ;) :oops: :oops:

So You can by banned human :-*$ :D (jk)

dacanadianbomb
05-11-2004, 11:30 AM
Xasa, Why dont you not start to hijack this topic to criticise Helex.Starting a flamewar maybe ?
You dont like him ok, you dont agree with him send him a PM...
This whole thread could have been settled in a PM to Argyll.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers.
david.

Pille1234
05-11-2004, 11:30 AM
I'm afraid Marmot is right. I assume that looking at the pig avatar makes you so mad that you get out of the ordinary, thus destroying interesting threads I liked to have seen developing.
Comments like 'you with your countries historical nazi background' or 'you europeans are guests here, so shut up' doesn't make you look smarter.

Marmot1
05-11-2004, 11:32 AM
OK some of them deserved for being locked but for example what was wrong with this one???

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14538

?? This was a political joke... nothing more

Why no one reacted when other members were insulted? when obscene language was used? AFAIR i.e. musta never used abusive language against anyone or at least very rarelly even when on other posts ****,****,cocsucker,gay,gomosek,ashole and other "latin" words were used almost exclusivelly.

Yes, I know that this site belongs to Hood but locking every non politically corect thread drives this forum down... What is your goal?? to transform this forum in extremists site???

In every thread where Palestionan or Iraqi is killed most of the comments are:
Yeah those ****ers deserved.
Kill Bastards.
****ing terrorists
e.t.c

but when i.e. somebody have different opinion and express it in polite civilized manner then immediatelly flame war starts and who is usually banned??? The person who have "diferent than official" view on the case,even if he behave in a civilized manner.

big80a2
05-11-2004, 11:33 AM
I don't agree with marmot...
there needs to be a strickt control.

this site is ment to discuss stuff not to staart flaming.
But respect for eachother needs to come from all sides.

Argyll
05-11-2004, 11:34 AM
Let me make it pretty clear,I've no problems with 90% of the Germans who post here ,who remainposting within the rules. ;)

If I have offended you then please accept my apology..............but this does not extend to HELEX.

I will only apologise if he Opens another topic,and aplogises for his comments about the mutilation of the BSC guys in Fallujah.

Javehn
05-11-2004, 11:36 AM
I asked to lock one thread .
It was passing beyond disrespect to our fallen soldiers . There is a place and time to critisize policy , and there is a place and time to simply say RIP . Every fallen soldier deserve his RIP .

Plain and simple . Someone has a problem with that ?

mustamato
05-11-2004, 11:36 AM
I will only apologise if he Opens another topic,and aplogises for his comments about the mutilation of the BSC guys in Fallujah.

Didnīt he already? What do I have to apologize for btw so that I will be liked by you again?


I asked to lock one thread .
It was passing beyond disrespect to our fallen soldiers . There is a place and time to critisize policy , and there is a place and time to simply say RIP . Every fallen soldier deserve his RIP .

Plain and simple . Someone has a problem with that ?

Oh and Javehn, in your first post in that thread you said more than just RIP...


May those cocksmoking Jihad mother f*** burn in hell while slowly getting raped by 72 strap on virgins . If it was in my power , i would get back in the army , and in that place to avenge you . Your death will never be forgotten . Maybe all i have left is to write on the internet in my computer about it .

יהיה זכרונכם ברוך .
:(

catdat
05-11-2004, 11:38 AM
I agree with Argyll. Lock 'em.

Javehn
05-11-2004, 11:38 AM
It wasn't directed to you , Mustamato . So what is your problem ?
Hebrew says Rest IN Peace , respect to Fallen .

Something you can't understand .
I hope you will get banned .

DANJANOU
05-11-2004, 11:40 AM
Hey I'm with Argyll here.

First off he's a moderator, his sandbox, his rules, don't like it go and play somewhere else. Nobody is chaining you to your PC now are they?

More importantly some of the juvenile antics he's trying to stamp out damage the rep of this site/forum vis a vis the other military forums out there.

Ask yourself do you want to be looked at as a joke and a place full of nintendosniper wannabes or a place where people; serving military, former military and/or those interested in the military can come and exchange ideas? Your call on that one.

Maybe he had to become a little heavy handed, and to be honest I've seen "worse" on other sites and I'm a moderator on one myself, but the situation dictated it. Some of those whining let it spiral out of place in the first place.

A couple of months nobody will remember this or give a ****. The whiners will have gone (where is Ducimus anyway?) and those interested in acting like professionals will still be here having interesting and fun converstations.

Argyll, good on ya mate.

big80a2
05-11-2004, 11:43 AM
OK some of them deserved for being locked but for example what was wrong with this one???

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14538

?? This was a political joke... nothing more


It's also an insult of God.
Think before posting (also aplies to me )

anyway, some members maybe don't obscene language, but don't show resect. They force there idees with dirty tricks,
This kinda give you insults. Althrough everybody should watch his words.

about the palie and iraqi thing. Most of them are terrorists so name that.
About innocent's killed everybody has to condem that, but the ones causing this upror often don't do that.

Bootneck
05-11-2004, 11:44 AM
This site is privately owned.

The site owner has published a clear set of rules that regulate participation in the forum.

Moderators have been appointed by the site owner to enforce these rules.

If you don't like the rules or they way they are being enforced then you are free to exercise the one "right" you do have on this forum - to leave.

-----

Hood and the Mod Squad - You have my thanks for a thankless job. Keep it up.

Javehn
05-11-2004, 11:46 AM
My point is simle . There is a place when you discust Politics .
And there is a thread that talking about 6 dead soldiers , that their bodies weer reaped appart , and their heads used as Footballs .

Mustamato made the most disrespectfull gesture someone can make to fallen soldiers . I will pay my respect even to enemy Soldiers , because they deserve that . And after that you complain , why you are getting flaimed by me ?

Trust me , if it was in my powers , you would get not only virtual abbuse , but a live one .

Argyll
05-11-2004, 11:48 AM
OK some of them deserved for being locked but for example what was wrong with this one???

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14538

?? This was a political joke... nothing more

Maybe you see HELEX in a different light,I'm willing to bet my left nut a flame war and name calling were forthcoming

Why no one reacted when other members were insulted? when obscene language was used? AFAIR i.e. musta never used abusive language against anyone or at least very rarelly even when on other posts ****,f***,cocsucker,gay,gomosek,ashole and other "latin" words were used almost exclusivelly.

I've locked a few threads,and expressed I was not Happy at the name calling of Mustamoto,I'm not here 24/7...........unlike some.I work for a living

Yes, I know that this site belongs to Hood but locking every non politically corect thread drives this forum down... What is your goal?? to transform this forum in extremists site???

This is total Bull****,read the reasons for the threds getting locked most reasons are usually given,9/10 are locked because of the Israeli/Palestinian situaltion,and are the same as the hundres before,use your search button and see for your self.Like I also said you got a problem with a locked topic you PM me and I'll explain,just like I have to those who bothered

In every thread where Palestionan or Iraqi is killed most of the comments are:
Yeah those f*** deserved.
Kill Bastards.
f*** terrorists
e.t.c

And they get locked as soon as they get OTT,oh and for your info,if they are dead insurgents then they will not get locked,if you do not like this,PM Hood,I lock topics to prevent a flame war,unless it's personal

but when i.e. somebody have different opinion and express it in polite civilized manner then immediatelly flame war starts and who is usually banned??? The person who have "diferent than official" view on the case,even if he behave in a civilized manner.

rofl rofl You on the drink?,in a polite and civil manner,yeah right,when that happens it's not called Flaming is it?Oh and MODS do not Ban people again get your facts right.If you're refering to Uninen ,he did not respond in a civilaized manner,and If a Moderator warns someone in a PM they should be cutreous and show respect,not disregard it and continue their rhetoric,bottim line mate if you do not like what's going on here,then leave quite simple.

I've been around here a long time,and I know who the ****e stirrers are,and those who are respectful and honest

mustamato
05-11-2004, 11:49 AM
If you don't like the rules or they way they are being enforced then you are free to exercise the one "right" you do have on this forum - to leave.

I canīt read minds but I guess that Hood intended this place to be a discussion
forum and not a asslicking forum. And well, "rules", many threads locked (see Marmots
example above) have not been against the rules.

The only reason to why I like this forum is that there are so many with a different
attitude and opinion than me here. All the opinions (which sometimes obviously
clash a little with each other) generate a huge amount of interesting information
that would be difficult to find in a asslicking forum where there is only one opionion.

ShotOver
05-11-2004, 11:49 AM
I just don't understand why people like Ducimus19, Mustamato and Helex come to a site like this, please read this link:
www.militaryphotos.net

You see the bold and underlined? that means that this is a military website, for military people and people who like military stuff. It is NOT a website with forums so you can start debates to try and make a point, that only you kind of people care about.

Hood is god, Argyll is his minion, you do what they say, and that is not up for discussion, while you are in Hood's house, you play by HIS rules and if you do not comply, then you get kicked out.

I don't understand why you just don't get it. We Do NOT give a flying **** about what you have to say, your information and view is not wanted here, Argyll has been to Iraq, and is highly respected amoung all the forum members for it. You have not been to Iraq, or to any war zone, therefore your input into any discussion about that subject is not wanted, and has no effect.

I am neigh impressed by you, and your wee little brain, if you want to argue and fight and ruin peoples days, then get the hell out of here, it's that simple.

:roll:

Marmot1
05-11-2004, 11:50 AM
I asked to lock one thread .
It was passing beyond disrespect to our fallen soldiers . There is a place and time to critisize policy , and there is a place and time to simply say RIP . Every fallen soldier deserve his RIP .

Plain and simple . Someone has a problem with that ?

And fallen Palestnians don't??? they fight for their homes. Of course you see it in other way but still IDF soldiers fight for their cause, Palestinians fight for their cause and BOTH desserve for RIP not for "****ing bastard"-what they usualy get. It's no matter if you wear US ISRAELI POLISH IRAQI or PALESTINIAN uniform hence you are still soldier and deserve for respect, when you die for your cause. Of course there are rotten apples on both sides. We have seen them in Falijuda in Abu Gharib in Gaza, everywhere but do not put every one in the same pot. Not all palestinians are terrorists not all US soliders behave like those in Abu Gharib not all IDF soldiers shoot rockets to crowd.

Today Palestinians were lucky and killed 6 israelis yesterday israelis were lucky. This is war and first what you should have on war is respect to your enemy. ..

mustamato
05-11-2004, 11:51 AM
Oh and PT, your contribtution in the military area, with posted photos etc is?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/search.php?search_author=PT

:oops: Seems to be spam mostly.

Argyll
05-11-2004, 11:53 AM
Marmot you should have taken this to me in a PM.

These points are not for an open forum

shorty
05-11-2004, 11:53 AM
Spam is nasty.......especially when it is warm. But shooting it is very fun! woot

XASA
05-11-2004, 11:56 AM
Xasa, Why dont you not start to hijack this topic to criticise Helex.Starting a flamewar maybe ?
You dont like him ok, you dont agree with him send him a PM...
This whole thread could have been settled in a PM to Argyll.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers.
david.

Thanks for your suggestion. Excuse me, though, if I think it is inappropriate. And just how did I "hijack" this thread? I didn't start this thread, nor did I instigate Argyll's rift with Helex, although I do support, of course, the moderator.

The problem isn't Argyll, it's Helex and others like him who seem to think militaryphotos.net is their own private debating club or a place to practice their English by starting flame wars. Since Helex feels every brain fart he has is worthy of posting, I have the right to tell him in front of the entire forum he is full of sh**.

I don't expect everyone to like what I have to say; in fact, I could care less because I feel I've earned the right to express my opinion here and not in a PM. Besides, it would be a waste of time to try and talk sense to someone who has the political agenda Helex has.

I also don't appreciate some kid telling me what I should and shouldn't post. ;)

citizen-k
05-11-2004, 12:00 PM
Oh and PT, your contribtution in the military area, with posted photos etc is?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/search.php?search_author=PT

:oops: Seems to be spam mostly.

Having a hard time to understand when its time to shut the **** up?

It's about time you'll be sent to play with Uninen

W(M)D
05-11-2004, 12:02 PM
[quote="Marmot1It's no matter if you wear US ISRAELI POLISH IRAQI or PALESTINIAN uniform hence you are still soldier and deserve for respect, when you die for your cause. . ..[/quote]

No, not all of them wear uniforms denoting that they belong to some formal organisation/framework and the Palestinians are certainly not a recognised army. The PA is 'recognised' as an official organisation the rest of them aint.
The difference is UK, US, Polish, IDF, etc all wear uniforms. They are trained formally and abide by rules of engagement (ROE) with training and observe ethics and morals and are subject to trial by court martial for offences (prisoner abuse, unlawful killing, if applicable).
When was the last time you heard of a Palestinian court martial, other then maybe when they carry out secretive summary executions of their own in trials lasting no longer then a few hours.
These terrorists never deserve the same recognition or respect given to uniformed servicemen of any country, it would be an insult to uniformed servicemen equate the two categories.

big80a2
05-11-2004, 12:03 PM
I asked to lock one thread .
It was passing beyond disrespect to our fallen soldiers . There is a place and time to critisize policy , and there is a place and time to simply say RIP . Every fallen soldier deserve his RIP .

Plain and simple . Someone has a problem with that ?

And fallen Palestnians don't??? they fight for their homes. Of course you see it in other way but still IDF soldiers fight for their cause, Palestinians fight for their cause and BOTH desserve for RIP not for "f*** bastard"-what they usualy get. It's no matter if you wear US ISRAELI POLISH IRAQI or PALESTINIAN uniform hence you are still soldier and deserve for respect, when you die for your cause. Of course there are rotten apples on both sides. We have seen them in Falijuda in Abu Gharib in Gaza, everywhere but do not put every one in the same pot. Not all palestinians are terrorists not all US soliders behave like those in Abu Gharib not all IDF soldiers shoot rockets to crowd.

..

Javhen is mad because these guy's kicket around with human remains and showed them, actually stole them. And as he said he has no respect for combatants doing such things and so do I.


Today Palestinians were lucky and killed 6 israelis yesterday israelis were lucky. This is war and first what you should have on war is respect to your enemy.

Killing has nothing to do with luck and war aint fun.

Dulce bellum inexpertis

Ballistic
05-11-2004, 12:05 PM
Go get 'em Argyll !!!!! woot

Uninen banned ?? If so woohoo. Hope the other good for nothing ****heads around here are banned too. It's about time.

Marmot1
05-11-2004, 12:05 PM
I just don't understand why people like Ducimus19, Mustamato and Helex come to a site like this, please read this link:
www.militaryphotos.net

You see the bold and underlined? that means that this is a military website, for military people and people who like military stuff. It is NOT a website with forums so you can start debates to try and make a point, that only you kind of people care about.

Hood is god, Argyll is his minion, you do what they say, and that is not up for discussion, while you are in Hood's house, you play by HIS rules and if you do not comply, then you get kicked out.

I don't understand why you just don't get it. We Do NOT give a flying f*** about what you have to say, your information and view is not wanted here, Argyll has been to Iraq, and is highly respected amoung all the forum members for it. You have not been to Iraq, or to any war zone, therefore your input into any discussion about that subject is not wanted, and has no effect.

I am neigh impressed by you, and your wee little brain, if you want to argue and fight and ruin peoples days, then get the hell out of here, it's that simple.

:roll:

But I survived couple of "coup de etat's" in some nice african countries... ;) And I have been in war zone (or rather guerilla war zone) but not as a combatant. Also I have a father who probably seen more than you can imagine in your sweetests dreams... just to make some things clear ;)

Argyll
05-11-2004, 12:06 PM
I asked to lock one thread .
It was passing beyond disrespect to our fallen soldiers . There is a place and time to critisize policy , and there is a place and time to simply say RIP . Every fallen soldier deserve his RIP .

Plain and simple . Someone has a problem with that ?

And fallen Palestnians don't??? they fight for their homes. Of course you see it in other way but still IDF soldiers fight for their cause, Palestinians fight for their cause and BOTH desserve for RIP not for "f*** bastard"-what they usualy get. It's no matter if you wear US ISRAELI POLISH IRAQI or PALESTINIAN uniform hence you are still soldier and deserve for respect, when you die for your cause. Of course there are rotten apples on both sides. We have seen them in Falijuda in Abu Gharib in Gaza, everywhere but do not put every one in the same pot. Not all palestinians are terrorists not all US soliders behave like those in Abu Gharib not all IDF soldiers shoot rockets to crowd.

..

Javhen is mad because these guy's kicket around with human remains and showed them, actually stole them. And as he said he has no respect for combatants doing such things and so do I.


Today Palestinians were lucky and killed 6 israelis yesterday israelis were lucky. This is war and first what you should have on war is respect to your enemy.

Killing has nothing to do with luck and war aint fun.

Dulce bellum inexpertis

Exactly.............................poor choice of word Marmot.very poor

Javehn
05-11-2004, 12:08 PM
Marmot , someone who plays with soldiers head for fun , is not human . He is not combatant , and don't deserves any respect , that's one .

Second , too bad i am waisting time on you , i remember your posts , they were pretty ignorent , and made me very mad , and i regret that i spent my nerves in pissen like you (where i even could explain the situation better instead of getting all mad) . The way you talk , you are no soldier , never were , never been , and never will be . Plain and simple .

Third , you should make this talk to Argyll in PM .

And fourth , i am out of here .

Marmot1
05-11-2004, 12:08 PM
Marmot you should have taken this to me in a PM.

These points are not for an open forum

Well I wanted to do this in PM but working behind the scene is not in polish nature. p-)

Trigger
05-11-2004, 12:09 PM
I support Argyll and the other Moderators 100%. I think they are doing a fine job of babysitting you lot of crybabies, trolls and flamers.

Keep up the great work Argyll, Beo, stoli, He219 and Tane Angle.

The only thing I don't get is why Hood has tolerated the likes of HELEX for so long...He must have the patience of Job.

Argyll
05-11-2004, 12:09 PM
I just don't understand why people like Ducimus19, Mustamato and Helex come to a site like this, please read this link:
www.militaryphotos.net

You see the bold and underlined? that means that this is a military website, for military people and people who like military stuff. It is NOT a website with forums so you can start debates to try and make a point, that only you kind of people care about.

Hood is god, Argyll is his minion, you do what they say, and that is not up for discussion, while you are in Hood's house, you play by HIS rules and if you do not comply, then you get kicked out.

I don't understand why you just don't get it. We Do NOT give a flying f*** about what you have to say, your information and view is not wanted here, Argyll has been to Iraq, and is highly respected amoung all the forum members for it. You have not been to Iraq, or to any war zone, therefore your input into any discussion about that subject is not wanted, and has no effect.

I am neigh impressed by you, and your wee little brain, if you want to argue and fight and ruin peoples days, then get the hell out of here, it's that simple.

:roll:

But I survived couple of "coup de etat's" in some nice african countries... ;) And I have been in war zone (or rather guerilla war zone) but not as a combatant. Also I have a father who probably seen more than you can imagine in your sweetests dreams... just to make some things clear ;)

Ok and in the very nature of your original topic,you're now becoming embroiled in a flame war.........which is against forum rules,see Marmot.....people in Glass houses should not throw stones

W(M)D
05-11-2004, 12:10 PM
Well I wanted to do this in PM but working behind the scene is not in polish nature. p-)

Which part of Poland do you come from? The German or the Russian side? LOL

Argyll
05-11-2004, 12:10 PM
Marmot you should have taken this to me in a PM.

These points are not for an open forum

Well I wanted to do this in PM but working behind the scene is not in polish nature. p-)

Airing dirty Laundry in public is not done full stop,and this is NOT a Polish site ;)

Bootneck
05-11-2004, 12:10 PM
It's not for you to interpret the spirit of Hood's rules or his intentions. You would be better off it you could get it through your thick skull that Argyll is Hood's agent and, as such, has been empowered by Hood to carry out his will. That might save you a lot of grief.

Suck it up and deal big guy.



If you don't like the rules or they way they are being enforced then you are free to exercise the one "right" you do have on this forum - to leave.

I canīt read minds but I guess that Hood intended this place to be a discussion
forum and not a asslicking forum. And well, "rules", many threads locked (see Marmots
example above) have not been against the rules.

The only reason to why I like this forum is that there are so many with a different
attitude and opinion than me here. All the opinions (which sometimes obviously
clash a little with each other) generate a huge amount of interesting information
that would be difficult to find in a asslicking forum where there is only one opionion.

Marmot1
05-11-2004, 12:13 PM
Marmot , someone who plays with soldiers head for fun , is not human . He is not combatant , and don't deserves any respect , that's one .

Second , too bad i am waisting time on you , i remember your posts , they were pretty ignorent , and made me very mad , and i regret that i spent my nerves in pissen like you (where i even could explain the situation better instead of getting all mad) . The way you talk , you are no soldier , never were , never been , and never will be . Plain and simple .

Third , you should make this talk to Argyll in PM .

And fourth , i am out of here .

1.Yes I agree but you seems to have te same kind of reaction on every palestinian no matter if he is combatant or not.
2.Yes truth is sometimes painful but as you probably remember i never named you cocsucker,****head,day or insulted you in any other way, and you used this instead of arguments.As for the second part... you never know... and life can be surprising sometimes. ;)
3.I wanted to discuss this in publicity not behind someones back. ;)
4.See you later!!!

ShotOver
05-11-2004, 12:14 PM
I wasnt talking to you Marmot about combat zones, it was talking to HELEX and mustamato.

But i'm going to step down now, be the man and walk away before things get bad.

Javehn
05-11-2004, 12:17 PM
1.Yes I agree but you seems to have te same kind of reaction on every palestinian no matter if he is combatant or not.

No **** , Carnale ? And now you want me to respect you ? You really have no idea , no idea what so ever what i think , do you ?

By the way , i really tried to keep the Palestinian Police thread up , even that no one tried to read it . Including you .I have best Arab friends , and all of them including all of them would be laughing at you like it ain't no sweat .

Marmot1
05-11-2004, 12:17 PM
Marmot you should have taken this to me in a PM.

These points are not for an open forum

Well I wanted to do this in PM but working behind the scene is not in polish nature. p-)

Airing dirty Laundry in public is not done full stop,and this is NOT a Polish site ;)

Not polish??? OMG I was misleaded by someone... p-)

JDW?

Marmot1
05-11-2004, 12:19 PM
1.Yes I agree but you seems to have te same kind of reaction on every palestinian no matter if he is combatant or not.

No **** , Carnale ? And now you want me to respect you ? You really have no idea , no idea what so ever what i think , do you ?

By the way , i really tried to keep the Palestinian Police thread up , even that no one tried to read it . Including you .

Wrong. I'v read it carefully.

Argyll
05-11-2004, 12:23 PM
Marmot , someone who plays with soldiers head for fun , is not human . He is not combatant , and don't deserves any respect , that's one .

Second , too bad i am waisting time on you , i remember your posts , they were pretty ignorent , and made me very mad , and i regret that i spent my nerves in pissen like you (where i even could explain the situation better instead of getting all mad) . The way you talk , you are no soldier , never were , never been , and never will be . Plain and simple .

Third , you should make this talk to Argyll in PM .

And fourth , i am out of here .

1.Yes I agree but you seems to have te same kind of reaction on every palestinian no matter if he is combatant or not.
2.Yes truth is sometimes painful but as you probably remember i never named you cocsucker,****head,day or insulted you in any other way, and you used this instead of arguments.As for the second part... you never know... and life can be surprising sometimes. ;)
3.I wanted to discuss this in publicity not behind someones back. ;)
4.See you later!!!

Your problems with me locking threads are not for Others to debate,if you had a problem all you needed to do was PM me and I would have taken the time to explain to you.once again,and I'm getting really tired of repeating myself here,as I have done so with others who have asked why a particular topic was locked,it was that simple.
Instead you aired the laundry in public,and called my credibilty into account,I do not have to justify my actions to people who are not willing to listen and who are not willing to heed warnings about their behaviour in this forum.
Now,I could fly off on a tangent here and ask you what gives you the right to do so?.........a guest here on this site?...........but I will not do so,it's irrelevant,as for your saying it's not the Polish way,well buddy I could not give a monkeys,because I'm Scottish,I live in Scotland,but I'm an honest guy,If I'm wrong I'll admit it,but This should have been dealt with between you and I,and you were wrong to do this in an open forum.

JiJoMacLE45
05-11-2004, 12:27 PM
Keep up the good work Argyll, 'bout time somebody started taking out the trash.

Marmot1
05-11-2004, 12:39 PM
Marmot , someone who plays with soldiers head for fun , is not human . He is not combatant , and don't deserves any respect , that's one .

Second , too bad i am waisting time on you , i remember your posts , they were pretty ignorent , and made me very mad , and i regret that i spent my nerves in pissen like you (where i even could explain the situation better instead of getting all mad) . The way you talk , you are no soldier , never were , never been , and never will be . Plain and simple .

Third , you should make this talk to Argyll in PM .

And fourth , i am out of here .

1.Yes I agree but you seems to have te same kind of reaction on every palestinian no matter if he is combatant or not.
2.Yes truth is sometimes painful but as you probably remember i never named you cocsucker,****head,day or insulted you in any other way, and you used this instead of arguments.As for the second part... you never know... and life can be surprising sometimes. ;)
3.I wanted to discuss this in publicity not behind someones back. ;)
4.See you later!!!

Your problems with me locking threads are not for Others to debate,if you had a problem all you needed to do was PM me and I would have taken the time to explain to you.once again,and I'm getting really tired of repeating myself here,as I have done so with others who have asked why a particular topic was locked,it was that simple.
Instead you aired the laundry in public,and called my credibilty into account,I do not have to justify my actions to people who are not willing to listen and who are not willing to heed warnings about their behaviour in this forum.
Now,I could fly off on a tangent here and ask you what gives you the right to do so?.........a guest here on this site?...........but I will not do so,it's irrelevant,as for your saying it's not the Polish way,well buddy I could not give a monkeys,because I'm Scottish,I live in Scotland,but I'm an honest guy,If I'm wrong I'll admit it,but This should have been dealt with between you and I,and you were wrong to do this in an open forum.

I never wanted to call your credibility into acount, If you understood this in such a way then sorry but it was not my intention.
All what I wanted to say is that using sledge hammer to hit in small finish nail is.... well... overkill. Some of the topics certanly deserved to be locked for sure but some of them were locked before anything bad happened. And this smeels like cenzorship.


I would not comment helix since I do not agre with him in most of the topics, but I do not feel a need to get rid of him.

As for mustamato most of his posts are very interesting and informative, he provided not only photos but also a lot of usefull data and his view seems obiective especially when it comes to scandinavian countries army's

2Sheds_Jackson
05-11-2004, 12:42 PM
I just have to dig any mod that swears so much.

Jack Mehoff
05-11-2004, 12:48 PM
Please calm down..

In recent days you locked so many threads that it looks like good old commie censorship in worst edition is on this forum on a daily basis.

I can uderstand locking for cursing, posting graphic or disrespectfull images but you started to lock every thread that do not follow your political point of view. I can uderstand that this forum is not european nor african but where is so beloved by americans "Freedom of speach"?

Having only one official and true version smells like mid 80's poland where you could end in jail ( get banned) for thinking in other way than officialy aproved by Party Commitet.

That's strange. Freedom of speech also comes hand-in-hand with the majority rules. We had a poll to ban HELEX and the majority of people here voted yes. If you want democracy? Ban HELEX.

Argyll
05-11-2004, 12:52 PM
Marmot , someone who plays with soldiers head for fun , is not human . He is not combatant , and don't deserves any respect , that's one .

Second , too bad i am waisting time on you , i remember your posts , they were pretty ignorent , and made me very mad , and i regret that i spent my nerves in pissen like you (where i even could explain the situation better instead of getting all mad) . The way you talk , you are no soldier , never were , never been , and never will be . Plain and simple .

Third , you should make this talk to Argyll in PM .

And fourth , i am out of here .

1.Yes I agree but you seems to have te same kind of reaction on every palestinian no matter if he is combatant or not.
2.Yes truth is sometimes painful but as you probably remember i never named you cocsucker,****head,day or insulted you in any other way, and you used this instead of arguments.As for the second part... you never know... and life can be surprising sometimes. ;)
3.I wanted to discuss this in publicity not behind someones back. ;)
4.See you later!!!

Your problems with me locking threads are not for Others to debate,if you had a problem all you needed to do was PM me and I would have taken the time to explain to you.once again,and I'm getting really tired of repeating myself here,as I have done so with others who have asked why a particular topic was locked,it was that simple.
Instead you aired the laundry in public,and called my credibilty into account,I do not have to justify my actions to people who are not willing to listen and who are not willing to heed warnings about their behaviour in this forum.
Now,I could fly off on a tangent here and ask you what gives you the right to do so?.........a guest here on this site?...........but I will not do so,it's irrelevant,as for your saying it's not the Polish way,well buddy I could not give a monkeys,because I'm Scottish,I live in Scotland,but I'm an honest guy,If I'm wrong I'll admit it,but This should have been dealt with between you and I,and you were wrong to do this in an open forum.

I never wanted to call your credibility into acount, If you understood this in such a way then sorry but it was not my intention.
All what I wanted to say is that using sledge hammer to hit in small finish nail is.... well... overkill. Some of the topics certanly deserved to be locked for sure but some of them were locked before anything bad happened. And this smeels like cenzorship.

Not censorship............. damage prevention/limitation,what's the point in using a hammer when a rock does just as good? But I respect your views on this


I would not comment helix since I do not agre with him in most of the topics, but I do not feel a need to get rid of him.

Personal opinions..............I'm not changing,ya'll don't heed the warnings then it's up to the Man in the big seat to act the way he see's fit

As for mustamato most of his posts are very interesting and informative, he provided not only photos but also a lot of usefull data and his view seems obiective especially when it comes to scandinavian countries army's
Yep Musty does apologise when he needs to ,and he has posted some very informative stuff,and is willing(at a push) to accept that sometimes that info is not entirely correct.

Argyll
05-11-2004, 12:53 PM
I just have to dig any mod that swears so much.

And this is me holding back ;)

RomanS
05-11-2004, 01:21 PM
Argyll

If Masturbato and Helex gets banned, I'm buying you all a beer.

tony6
05-11-2004, 01:31 PM
Hell-I like beer very much: LOCK THEM!!!
:D :D :D

Marmot1
05-11-2004, 01:49 PM
Argyll

If Masturbato and Helex gets banned, I'm buying you all a beer.

And for permski I will send you 0.75L of good polish vodka. (Priority mail) :lol:

tony6
05-11-2004, 01:51 PM
Ok-so BAN PERMSKII!!!
:D :D :D
(I prefer vodka:)

Javehn
05-11-2004, 01:51 PM
edit

Saranof
05-11-2004, 03:02 PM
One small thing
If we had the chance to have a poll every day to ban someone, don't you think that the americans an d israelis would gang up and vote on everyone who had different opinions?
The point is not just to show military pics, but to discuss military history and facts. and this is hard to do if you know that if you have a slightly different opinion than the mainstream, you will get kicked out.

Javehn
05-11-2004, 03:05 PM
One small thing
If we had the chance to have a poll every day to ban someone, don't you think that the americans an d israelis would gang up and vote on everyone who had different opinions?
The point is not just to show military pics, but to discuss military history and facts. and this is hard to do if you know that if you have a slightly different opinion than the mainstream, you will get kicked out.

You really don't get the point , do you ?

Trigger
05-11-2004, 03:12 PM
One small thing
If we had the chance to have a poll every day to ban someone, don't you think that the americans an d israelis would gang up and vote on everyone who had different opinions?
The point is not just to show military pics, but to discuss military history and facts. and this is hard to do if you know that if you have a slightly different opinion than the mainstream, you will get kicked out.

There is quite a distinct difference between respectfully sharing a differing opinion and disrespectfully spamming every thread in the forum and continually being a flaming asshole for the sole purpose of angering others.

If you don't know the difference, then you aren't going to be received very well.

mack pl
05-11-2004, 03:44 PM
Ok-so BAN PERMSKII!!!
:D :D :D
(I prefer vodka:)Poles+Russians+Vodka+Vodka+Vodka=Party(or war).......calm down everybody...be cool, be happy :) :lol:

Maine Finn
05-11-2004, 03:46 PM
Well, damn. This has certainly caused my intelligence level to drop several points. I can see my GPA falling, falling, falling, as a result of this thread. Nothing against Argyll and the other Mods, but this thread has been taken over by essentially the same group that takes over other threads.

Seriously, though... you lot (Scandinavians, Russians, and others - Americans included too) are driving this kid off. I'm sure not one person really gives two ****s considering the content of a number of my posts, and that's fine with me. I've gone beyond the point of caring.

I'm just sick of seeing all these flamebaiting threads - which happen to have the same author(s) time and again. I need not name anyone, as I think most people already know who I'm talking about. The fact remains that I've lost interest in scrolling down page after page to get to the threads that I want to read. Even with the Mods doing the fine job that they're doing, the problem still exists. I respect the efforts of Hood and the Mods to clean up this site, in the face of all the crap and whining that gets thrown their way. It’s hardly an easy job to do, especially considering they do it in their spare time. It speaks a lot to their dedication to the site.

So anyway. I suppose that I've wasted enough time and bandwith with this post. I doubt you'll be seeing much of me around here for awhile, outside of my news service thread.

~Emily

Javehn
05-11-2004, 03:47 PM
Javehn+vodka + vodka + pivo + pivo+ Seven up + vodka + Polish girl - Pizdets ;)

mustamato
05-11-2004, 03:53 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14557

Well, which rule was this?

Tane Angle
05-11-2004, 03:56 PM
I'd sincerely appreciate it if people stopped giving Argyll a hard time. And lay off XASA too. Argyll's working his butt off here, and I'd bet good money that he doesn't like locking threads. It's gotten ridiculous around here lately. Actually, no; it hasn't gotten ridiculous, that's too passive tense; people have made it ridiculous.

Jeez. And with all due respect and no offense to Hood and his predecessor, virtualpender, do you have any idea how petty this message board is? I'm sorry, but people are getting their heads chopped off out there and all we can talk about is who's thread got locked by who. Who cares? You have a problem Argyll, PM him. But let's not make a mountain out of a molehill, ok?

If your thread being locked is the worst thing to happen to you today, count your blessings. At least your name isn't Nick Berg or Daniel Pearl or Bill Buckley.

Argyll has a life, and when he logs on here and sees thirty flame wars going, maybe the easiest and quickest way to restore the message board to normal is by just locking threads. I'm just sorry that I haven't been around to help more.

Is it just me, or do things get especially bad here on the same days that things are especially bad out in the real world?

I'm sorry, I'm exhausted and was pissed off to begin with when I signed on to send someone a PM.

Sorry, take care all.

Argyll
05-11-2004, 03:56 PM
It was turning into a flame war.
Rule 6,I'll re open it but what gets said does not get moderated............your choice?

Same as this ,it's getting off topic and will be locked

weedman
05-11-2004, 04:00 PM
In general:

Discussion != Flame war... :roll:

Argyll
05-11-2004, 04:02 PM
In general:

Discussion != Flame war... :roll:

No read the topic before opening your mouth weedman,and don't join a topic hafway through and you'll know what I mean,and who in the hell are you to question my actions..........don't like it leave!

What you posted is considered trolling

weedman
05-11-2004, 04:03 PM
.....don't like it leave!
Don't like my opinion, don't read it...simple is that :lol:

mack pl
05-11-2004, 04:04 PM
Javehn+vodka + vodka + pivo + pivo+ Seven up + vodka + Polish girl - Pizdets ;)Sorry Argyll my post will be 100% off-topic :| @Javehn-you never met polish girl Im sure,nobody who drink Makkabi beer cannot be interesting for polish girl ;) rofl ...sorry again(but its not flame war, only joking).Regards.

Argyll
05-11-2004, 04:04 PM
This is my topic..............so leave me alone rofl

Tane Angle
05-11-2004, 04:06 PM
No, mature, calm, intelligent discussions have actually happened here, as difficult as it is to believe sometimes. One particularly great one that comes to mind was one of WARPIG's a while back had an excellent thread going, some great discussions on there.

I'm going to start a thread right now, hopefully it will be a good discussion, not a PMC-bashing flame war.

mack pl
05-11-2004, 04:06 PM
This is my topic..............so leave me alone roflNah, this is topic About You :)

ibstolidude
05-11-2004, 04:17 PM
You want to try being a Moderator when the **** is flying around it's not easy and remember I do this in my spare time,and I'm not the only Mod who locks topics.
- You all my rest assured that he is not the only one that is locking topics, deleting posts and/or threads.

These are done on the basis that they appear to be posted inorder to incite flame wars, lack any credible information, are too diversionary (i.e. some of the ****-esque threads) and the like.

I will not accept the excuse "well so-&-so posted such-&-such about me in another thread and you didn't lock it."
As I stated before, MODs may not see all the posts, I know I do not; therefore you should PM one if you feel you are being harrassed.

I have no problem with dissent, I have no problem with alternate opinions; I have huge problems when people violate the norms of the forum.

If you have a question about it then PM.

Tane Angle
05-11-2004, 04:20 PM
stoli said what I meant to, but more coherently and calmy.

anonymous individual
05-11-2004, 04:30 PM
I support you, Argyll.

budanski
05-11-2004, 04:37 PM
Kudos to Argyll. Its mods like him who keeps folks like me in check. ;)

ibstolidude
05-11-2004, 04:55 PM
Kudos to Argyll. Its mods like him who keeps folks like me in check. ;) You are a damn dirty ape!

budanski
05-11-2004, 04:56 PM
Kudos to Argyll. Its mods like him who keeps folks like me in check. ;) You are a damn dirty ape!

You don't send me flowers, anymore.

mustamato
05-11-2004, 05:08 PM
OK I'm locking this one,for those who see this act as a mere propaganda tool and not a cold blooded murder than you should be ashamed,take a minute to reflect on the family and friends of Nick Berg,you think they want this petty,and yes it's petty and pathetic squabbling,about moralities then you really need to get a life away from this site.

It matters not the circumstances of his murder,it was nothing short of barbarism,and I'm disgusted and saddened by his fate.

For fokk sake man. Yes we all know that you have found the "lock"-button, but
how about letting those you accuse publicly also answer publicly? Also
I like your "touch" (last sentence). Your word becomes the truth. Feels good?

The Romans called the Germans "barbarians" btw, the Romans beheaded people
as well, fallen enemies, alive enemies and dead Romans (in order to release
the spirits from the body). Feels far away from today? Yeah it probably is. And
those Iraqis are far away from your "truth" as well dear Argyll. Culturally, menthally
and what not. Didnīt the Iraqis you spoke too in Baghdad teach you that?

Beowulf
05-11-2004, 05:10 PM
what?

ibstolidude
05-11-2004, 05:13 PM
Double what?