Question Regarding US Army Dress Uniform.

[Lt.Havoc]

Ok, I hope the topic name is right, then question is about the US Army Greens, also the Green Dress uniform they wear wehn they are not on the field etc.

So, I heard, the US Army will phase out the Green Dress and replace it with a Blue one, is that true? I mean, Blue is more a color for the Navy or the Air Force, but the Army?

Well, I would be glad for some help regarding this topic. Thanks in advance.

[Sir Zach of R.]

The Army's trying to combine the Army blue and green uniform, supposedly to cut back on soldiers having so many uniforms for different events. The uniform would retain the green jacket, but the pants would be changed to blue with a gold stripe. Personally I think it looks re re, but that's me. If given the choice I won't be wearing it.

[vulpine]

They will piss off a lot of soldiers in terms of traditions. We will definately be changing although a lot of matters have yet to be worked out. For example they do not know if NCO's will wear berets. Imagine how the SF, Ranger and Airborne fellas will react. The jacket will be black not green and the undershirt will be grey. I belive a tan one like the Marines would look better. Another issue is unit patches and combat patches. The Army is not sure if they will be on the new uniform. Bottom line a lot of upset soldiers.

[Lt.Havoc]

A Combination of Green and Blue? Hmm.....I will first judge about the look wehn I see it. normally these 2 colors arent that well matching. But, I though, the Army is only using Greens and the Blue uniforms are only for the special events and for the soldiers Guarding the Tomb of the Unkown soldier in Arligton? So, why the hassle with the change?

Are really that many Soldiers wearing Army Blues instead of green?

[PandaGoon]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060616/images/uni180.jpg

Looks fine to me.

[Lt.Havoc]

Ok, after seeing the pic, I think its not that bad. Looks neat and all, a bit too Military Cadet for my taste, but overall, not bad. Still, I think the Army should retain green as a color, then green is always associated with grass and earth, and ya know, soldiers are ground pounders after all.

Anyway, the unifrom dosent looks bad at all.

[seraosha]

Bring back the classic "WWII" dress uniform.
In the old movies they apparently were chick magnets, and that will make the average Joe happy.

[Buckeye67]

Not that I have to worry about wearing one nowadays, but a dress uniform similar to the WW2 style dress would be ***.

As far as the color, blue is the original "traditional" color for the US Army, hearkening back to Continental line units during the War for Independence. It was also, of course, the "standard" color for Union troops during the American Civil War. So, it really isn't out of place for the US Army to be in blue.

I think that's all been discussed at length in previous threads about the new Army dress uniform.

[Lt.Havoc]

Not that I have to worry about wearing one nowadays, but a dress uniform similar to the WW2 style dress would be ***.

As far as the color, blue is the original "traditional" color for the US Army, hearkening back to Continental line units during the War for Independence. It was also, of course, the "standard" color for Union troops during the American Civil War. So, it really isn't out of place for the US Army to be in blue.

I think that's all been discussed at length in previous threads about the new Army dress uniform.

Darn, I forgot about that fact! You are right, back in the day, the Colonial Army and the Union one wore Blue, before it was changed to green in....hmm....I dont know wehn they got green unifroms....was that bore or after WW1? Cant be, they wore Kahki in WW2, the green unifroms came up after that, right?

[Buckeye67]

Here's a couple links that might be easier than me typing. Basically though, field uniforms shifted away from blue in the late 1890's/early 1900's.

This one's more comprehensive:
http://www.qmfound.com/army_clothing_history.htm

This is a sort of quick, and very loose, overview:
http://www.army.mil/symbols/uniforms/history.html

[Lt.Havoc]

Thanks for the links Bukeye.

[gaijinsamurai]

It would be cool to have something like that, with a big leather sam browne belt w/ cross strap.

[brianm423]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060616/images/uni180.jpg

Looks fine to me.

It's called the Army Service Uniform. The Class A uniform AKA the Dress Greens will be phased out in a few years I think. However, you can wear the ASU now. For my Commissioning ceremony, us cadets has the Service Uniform pictured above, however it's slightly different for officers. The jacket is dark navy, not green or black. And the color blue has been an Army tradition for over 200 years. The shirt as of right now is still white, but it is supposed to be grey whenever it gets its finally approval.

[el borracho]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=108291

I thought this topic was familiar. Check the thread for more comments. Be advised, it takes a turn for the worse around pages 3-4.

[Limeyfellow]

It's called the Army Service Uniform. The Class A uniform AKA the Dress Greens will be phased out in a few years I think. However, you can wear the ASU now. For my Commissioning ceremony, us cadets has the Service Uniform pictured above, however it's slightly different for officers. The jacket is dark navy, not green or black. And the color blue has been an Army tradition for over 200 years. The shirt as of right now is still white, but it is supposed to be grey whenever it gets its finally approval.

+1

The blue colour is a long tradition and a great colour copied from the French to seperate themselves from the British and be more similar to their patron nation.

Not to sure how the two different blues colour match though, but I guess they had to seperate themselves from other branches. In the photo, is it that the jacket is just the wrong size for that guy or is it really that badly tailored? The arms in particular need quite a bit of work.

[dutch508]

"And we say goodbye to the Cadet Grey amd don the Army Blue..."

The Army went to Khaki in the late 1800s. Then to the current green in the 1970s.

The Army is still working on some of the details for the next dress uniform.


Check out the Army Home Page for the latest info.

[11B101ABN]

+1

The blue colour is a long tradition and a great colour copied from the French to seperate themselves from the British and be more similar to their patron nation.

Not to sure how the two different blues colour match though, but I guess they had to seperate themselves from other branches. In the photo, is it that the jacket is just the wrong size for that guy or is it really that badly tailored? The arms in particular need quite a bit of work.


That uniform is spot on. The soldier is a member of the 3d US Infantry (The Old Guard), so I am sure that his uniform is exactly as it should be.

The Lighter blue pants are to recall the days of the horse Cavalry, IIRC.

The only thing that would bother me is the lack of unit patches. Being that mine is the sh*t, I would hate to not have it on my dress uniform.

[Yeoman]

that and you can't blouse em either
keep seeing that as a big complaint in the airborne world

[el borracho]

The US military is slowly moving away from a ceremonial mentality. If there is a formal occasion where a dress uniform would be appropriate, the ASU, or "blues" would suffice. The class A, or "greens" evolved from a utility uniform that was able to be fancied up and worn while a soldier was on leave. At most locations, soldiers have all the civilian conveniences available, like off-duty clothing, so a more professional uniform is unecessary. Gone with it are the modifications that various units authorized. About unit patches, the Marines never wore them, and the Air Force doesn't authorize them with the new ABU. I see the Army following suit eventually, at least with the dress uniform. It goes along with the "one team, one fight" mentality that the GWOT brought to all the services.

[dutch508]

as I stated previously, the Army is still working the bugs out of the 'style' system.

Two points brought up here:

1) No unit patches, either current unit or former wartime service. No wartime service stripes. It's like the retards doing the re-styling do all their time in the sub-basement of Belvior. 'What's that? People are fighting a war? Never heard of it."

2) Bloused Boots. For those of us who play the game, Airborne units (and a few other special types) wear bloused boots with class A uniforms. Now that the official boot is a fricken desert brown boot, how are we gonna do it in this uniform? Oh, What's that? You didn't think of that either?

More proof, IMHO, that the uniform guys are a bunch of REMFs who've never gone anywhere or done anything.

Let's not mention the grey shirt and black tie that will be the new dress shirt. No plan for a 'class B' working uniform, BTW.

retards.

[HoboWithAK]

The U.S. Army has more tradition in blue dress than the rest of the DOD.

[haze99]

Correction el borracho, the USMC wore shoulder patches during WWII. As did the Army Air Corp and later Army Air Force. The USAF had shoulder patches until the early-mid 1950's, then discontinued the practice.
Class-A and Class-B bridged the gap between wearing a field uniform and formal (Mess) uniform. (such as that now worn by Recruiters and JROTC/ROTC cadre.) Now with this gone you have to make up the difference. You may gain an advantge in appearance but, will lose some traditions. (Such as full-color shoulder patches, bloused trousers when wearing Cocoran Jump Boots and beret.) I was unaware that DA will do away with service strips?
Not that I have to deal with this, for my uniform is either Woodland BDU, Service Dress or Dress!
PS-Shoulder Sleeve Insignia was introduced during the doughboy days of WWI, so this is a "recent" tradition, it doesn't go back to the 1850's.

[brianm423]

The Lighter blue pants are to recall the days of the horse Cavalry, IIRC.

You are correct. The reason for the lighter blue pants is because back in the 1800s the Cavalry would take off their jackets, roll it up and stick it behind their saddle with their other gear while riding in the summer months. The blue pants faded from dark blue to light blue. Since the jacket was rolled up most of the time, it never faded in the sun, thus retaining the dark navy color. Like I said in an earlier post, the color blue has been in the Army for 200 years.

[MichaelF]

as I stated previously, the Army is still working the bugs out of the 'style' system.

Two points brought up here:

1) No unit patches, either current unit or former wartime service. No wartime service stripes. It's like the retards doing the re-styling do all their time in the sub-basement of Belvior. 'What's that? People are fighting a war? Never heard of it."

2) Bloused Boots. For those of us who play the game, Airborne units (and a few other special types) wear bloused boots with class A uniforms. Now that the official boot is a fricken desert brown boot, how are we gonna do it in this uniform? Oh, What's that? You didn't think of that either?

More proof, IMHO, that the uniform guys are a bunch of REMFs who've never gone anywhere or done anything.

Let's not mention the grey shirt and black tie that will be the new dress shirt. No plan for a 'class B' working uniform, BTW.

retards.

Actually, the ASU (and it's particulars) was thought up be the former Army CoS, GEN Schoomaker. He's pretty much BTDT (CO of OMFGDELTA1111, and all).

[MichaelF]

The white shirt will be replaced by one that is slate gray.

[oregongrunt]

http://www.armyairforces.com/forum/upfiles/4215/779BC013B903435BA578786303EFC389.jpg

I'd prefer the WW2 pinks and greens uniform to the dress blues.

[WARPIG]

That uniform is spot on. The soldier is a member of the 3d US Infantry (The Old Guard), so I am sure that his uniform is exactly as it should be.

The Lighter blue pants are to recall the days of the horse Cavalry, IIRC.

The only thing that would bother me is the lack of unit patches. Being that mine is the sh*t, I would hate to not have it on my dress uniform.

Slight misnomer. Sky blue trousers are not a result of "fading" associated with the Cavalry days. Trousers went from grey to light blue around 1832.

[Britboy]

Surely the Service Dress for all armies everywhere should be Khaki? With an additional version made in tan out of lighter cloth for tropical environments?

Some things are the same the world over, just like navies and the black (or v dark blue depending on your view) reefer jacket uniform, with a white choker/bush jacket uniform in the tropics... The ASU seems to be a massive departure from this, and in my opinion that pic doesn't look too promising.