Al Jazeera

[SeanAshi]

Why are they not reporting on the beheading of Nick Berg?

[RomanS]

Because they think its normal.

[Navy]

Cause they are ignorant ****heads. Al-jazeera is even more political than FOXNews. Checked their website, piece of ****.

:roll:

[Mamon]

The beheading video should be posted all over Al-Jazeera and Arabic news media. They must know what is being done in their name!

[Midav]

Because they think its normal.

Was thinking the same thing.

Not saying it was right, but god forbid if several GI's strip Iraqi prisoners. Let's have it all over al-jazeera.

But, let's not show the beheading.

[Truthsayer]

The 'funny' thing is...how mad would you be IF they indeed showed it?

Acctually, the best part would probably be if NO NEWSITES posted anything about this.

It's attention they want.

[RomanS]

WHy would they post such a thing? This would make them look bad.

Its like Chechen web sites. Its ok to post

Today we killed 5000 Russian soldiers, destroyed 400 BMPs, 250 BMP2s, and 130 T80s.

And than they post a video where they destroy a URAL water supply truck, and a BTR 80 that they play over and over.

However they don't show the beheadings of the Russian soldiers, Chechen civilians, and other non-islam believers. (even though there are over 400+ hours of those in FSB's hands)

the religion of peace for sure

[One?]

ANY OF YOU WATCH ALJAZEERA?

Its the first thing they keep reporting. But they never show the video of the beheading.

ALJAZEERA:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C6F93CE0-8FCB-425E-BD40-672B38CF68B1.htm

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told...

I can't remember what it was but there was something else that was censored and not shown on al jazeera not long ago. It would suprise me if they are averse to showing a killing however exeptable they see showing dead bodies.

[SeanAshi]

ANY OF YOU WATCH ALJAZEERA?
I was refering to Al Jazeeras english site, its on their site now.

I can't remember what it was but there was something else that was censored and not shown on al jazeera not long agoThe Italian journalist killed by Iraqi rebels, is what your refering too.

[RomanS]

Today was a busy day I must say lool.

8 topics closed, and 2 deleted.

[One?]

They also censored the head of the IDF soldeir.

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ANY OF YOU WATCH ALJAZEERA?
I was refering to Al Jazeeras english site, its on their site now.

I can't remember what it was but there was something else that was censored and not shown on al jazeera not long agoThe Italian journalist killed by Iraqi rebels, is what your refering too.

yeah might be, my memory has gone a bit shabby since I started cramming for my exams.

[American Patriot]

It's Jihad TV, what do you expect?

[seruriermarshal]

I still remember Daniel Pearl in 2002 in Pakistan .

So sad message , Must revenge !

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We ask you to receive them into your hands.

Father, give us the strength and wisdom to learn from their example,
to uphold freedom and life at home and around the world.

Keep us vigilant as we guard the frontiers of freedom.

Give our leaders the wisdom and the strength to lead well.

Grant all of us courage and confidence.
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Oh heavenly Father, give us the determination
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Father, hold all of the troopers in the palm of your almighty hand
and protect them in the shadow of your wings.

Amen.

[Red]

Cause they are ignorant ****heads. Al-jazeera is even more political than FOXNews. Checked their website, piece of ****.

:roll:
I disgaree,Al Jazeerah has been kicked out from over 7 Mid east countreis cause the governmets did not like their arguments

[catdat]

I'm usually a nice guy and it takes me a while to get riled up. I've seen my share of death. When I read what I'll quote below my heart says: Unleash The Dogs Of War!


The video showed the five men*shouting "God is greatest" as one of them cut off 26-year-old Berg's head, drowning his screams.

[usa320]

The NSA should hack the hell outa all those terrorist websites and the DOD should jam al-jazeera's TV signal. The gap between crooked reporting and actively supporting terrorists is very small at this point.

[American Patriot]

I have downloaded the video from an Islamist website. It's not pretty.

[Navy]

link?

[Navy]

Disagree with what?

[el borracho]

As of the time of my post it's not on the arabic al-Jazeera site either, the headline is of the 6 Israelis killed and the rest of the articles are about the prisoner abuse scandal and the testimony of that Major-General (I forgot his name).

Not surprised that it went on the english site first since it doesn't always correspond exactly to the articles on the main arabic website. I guess that they assume that Americans think the websites are one in the same, just translated, and we wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Nice try b*tches. :bash:

[catdat]

nice catch el borracho. I've seen nothing but really intelligent posts from you. wtg

[American Patriot]

If you feel the need to delete my post, tell me why. Thanks.

[Truthsayer]

If you feel the need to delete my post, tell me why. Thanks.

(It contained links to the video. That video is 'banned' from this forum. Any links will be deleted.)

[el borracho]

nice catch el borracho. I've seen nothing but really intelligent posts from you. wtg

Thanks catdat :hug: ...I calls 'em like I sees 'em.

Seriously, I appreciate that.

BTW, I will try to recheck them later...maybe they will do an update. I would like to see what their take on that incident is. I will do my best to translate and post it on the board if I see anything.

[red5326]

well if u wanna see that video go to well i dont wanna post the link
email me

[One?]

well if u wanna see that video go to www.******.com

DO NOT POST LINKS.....

USA320 the US doesn't need to jam any signals. They simply either

A) Drop a bomb on the aljazeera office (happened in a-stan).
B) Get a tank to fire its COAX gun at the cameraman (IRaq). if they keep filming shoot the other camerman (also iraq).

[el borracho]

BTW, I will try to recheck them later...maybe they will do an update. I would like to see what their take on that incident is. I will do my best to translate and post it on the board if I see anything.

I found an article on the arabic al-jazeera site. It wasn't on the front page, but rather a few articles down in the new from "the Americas" section. Here is a link http://www.aljazeera.net/news/america/2004/5/5-12-2.htm

I gotta get back to work, but will try to get a translation up this afternoon (US Central Time).

[scm77]

The reason they don't show it is because there is no way America can be blamed for this. :bash:

[mustamato]

I used to watch Al-Jaz when we still had it in our cabel network, however it was
removed and replaced with some Egyptian **** that only showed debates. Why it
was removed was never explained. Maybe someone in charge got a phone call
with a threat or something.

Al-Jaz is pretty much like CNN, but just on the other side of the table, so to say.
Al-Jaz is the best thing that have happened in the field of world news in a very long
time. Those of you that are old enough to remember the media coverage during
GW1 and have compared it to the one during GW2 know what I´m talking about.
The news then was totally biased, now even western media showed a lot of
Al-Jaz footage.

[Beowulf]

other side of the truth table?

[weedman]

For all you stupid motherf*ckers up in here:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/3897D0E4-B263-46FA-B96D-A89AA3C4F4C8.htm

First read, and then ask dumb questions... :bash:

[weedman]

"This action was bad because it makes Arabs look like barbarians but that's what the Americans think anyway. My fear is that now Americans will feel Iraqis deserve the torture," said Mamduh.


"Zarqawi is an enemy of the Arab and Muslim nation because he distorted their image and portrayed Islam in an incorrect manner," said Hasan Ahmad Jar Allah, 41, a Saudi government employee, who had seen the tape on the Internet.

"What religion or sect condones such a barbaric act? This is abominable, God curse Zarqawi," he said of the tape which showed masked men sawing Berg's head off with a large knife and holding it in the air.




A bit contrary to most of your statements...

[mustamato]

[...] My fear is that now Americans will feel Iraqis deserve the torture," said Mamduh.

Maybe these Iraqis cut of poor Berg´s head slowly with purpose to piss Americans
off? I mean, to provoce Americans to use exessive violence and well, to kick some
butt and break some rules while doing it?

[DrunkenMaster]

I still remember Daniel Pearl in 2002 in Pakistan .

So sad message , Must revenge !

REGIMENTAL PRAYER

Almighty, merciful, and loving Father,
you are the one who hears all our prayers and grants our petitions.

We ask you to remember, as we do,
the tremendous sacrifice made by those who went before us.
They have given their lives so that we might live and breathe freely.
We ask you to receive them into your hands.


Father, give us the strength and wisdom to learn from their example,
to uphold freedom and life at home and around the world.

Keep us vigilant as we guard the frontiers of freedom.

Give our leaders the wisdom and the strength to lead well.

Grant all of us courage and confidence.
Be, for all of us, troopers, a wise counsel in keeping peace
and a strong shield for us against our enemies.
Oh heavenly Father, give us the determination
that the peace and freedom won at such a high price be lasting!

Father, hold all of the troopers in the palm of your almighty hand
and protect them in the shadow of your wings.

Amen.
thank you

[el borracho]

I found an article on the arabic al-jazeera site. It wasn't on the front page, but rather a few articles down in the new from "the Americas" section. Here is a link http://www.aljazeera.net/news/america/2004/5/5-12-2.htm

I gotta get back to work, but will try to get a translation up this afternoon (US Central Time).

Here it is:

Unknown Group publicizes execution of American in Iraq

A website affiliated with "Muntada Ansaar Al-Islam (The Gathering Place for Followers of Islam)" showed a video tape of armed men executing an American by beheading.

The website quoted that this act comes as revenge for the Iraqi prisoners in Abu Ghraib, and the website also said that Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi "himself is the one who executed the American by sword."

Before his execution, the man that appears on the gruesome tape said that his name is Nick Berg and that he is from Philadelphia. He was pictured later lying on the floor with five masked men standing behind him, they raised the head, severed from his body, in front of the camera.

One of them recited a message *which threatened Americans by sending body after another* (my best shot, that sentence was somewhat confusing to translate) in the same manner. (I assume that they mean more decapitations) The slain American, 26, was a contractor from Westchester Co., Pennsylvania and was captured last Saturday on a bridge in Baghdad.

Reports from the group say "we offered a ransom to the American administration for this prisoner (in exchange) for some prisoners from Abu Ghraib and they refused us, we say that the dignity of Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib prison and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls, you won't receive anything from us except for bodies and bodies and coffins after coffins slaughtered in this way."

An American spokesperson said that the CIA is obsessively reviewing the video tape to find any links that indicate those responsible for the execution. A spokesperson for the White House promised/threatened (it's the same word, but hard to tell in this context) to punish those responsible and take them to justice.



Well, there you have it. It differs slightly from the english version on the other website. By nature the arabic language is matter-of-fact, and not very elaborate, but there still is kind of a cold indifference about this article. I tried to keep it as close as it was written, despite some odd wordings here and there, and I didn't want to fill it up with english expressions or terms.

This is just me talkin' but I really don't believe that this group is "unknown" as they said. Another thing is that they omitted the religious references from the arabic article. Maybe they are trying to mask the actions of their fellow muslims, or are embarrassed by them, I'm not sure.

This is meant as a comparison between the two articles, feel free to infer what you will of them.

[incubz5]

mustamato,

You couldn't be farther from the truth, as usual. Berg's barbaric killing was not to provoke anything from us. It was pure thuggery by fanatics who are, quite frankly, not very smart.

As I've stated before, look at 911. Do you think Bin Laden would green light that operation again if he could go back in a time machine? No way. Al Queda's springtime was prior to that attack, when they trained in Tora Bora with impunity under an islamofascist regime that even the retarded UN wouldn't recognize as a legitimate govt.

Terrorist are fanatics. They're hardly strategist. Their methods are no different than the anarchists of the early twentieth century. They're wild, unfocused, and destructive without the higher goal of victory. They make statements, not war.

[khukuri]

El borrachio

Do you read arabic? cuz I do, and yes they reported about that in the channel.








First of all, aljazeera english part is not mented for westerners, its ment for arabs who been outside a looong time and dont speak arabic very well.

[SeanAshi]

I haven't watched the videos or looked at pictures but I have read comments those people make, those people are ****ed up, some describe it as a ****** experience when watching people being executed. :cantbeli:

[n4292936]

A couple of points. The video is available on the net at ******.com Dont visit that site while at work or with kids in the room, or if you have a sensitive stomach.
The murder was ostensibly carried out in retaliation for the murders of Iraqis by US servicemen in the Abu Grahb prison - like that retaliation really wasnt just a matter of time!
Finally, Im glad to see that at least one person recognised this inescapable fact: Aljazeera is to the Middle East as Fox News is to
America. Both purport to be free and fair when in fact both offer a less than free or fair product to their audience. The reinforcement of political prejudices is one of the things that makes both Fox News and Al Jazeera so popular with its audiences.
O'Reilly is a sock sniffer! (go here http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly to find out why! ) :P
In response to that last post: I used to live in Saudi Arabia, for 11 years while my parents worked for an oil company. I lived near Khobar and Dammam where executions used to take place. Anyone describing it as a ****** experience is just as twisted as the ****ers who commit the murder in the first place. Its saddening, angering, and perhaps at worst satisfying at times but ****** isnt an adjective any mentally healthy person would apply to an execution, regardless of the horrible crime the person may have commited. :bash:

[el borracho]

El borrachio

Do you read arabic? cuz I do, and yes they reported about that in the channel.
.

Yes I do, my post was referring to the Arabic version of their website. When I originally posted yesterday there was no article about the incident on the website. I had promised (the forum) to translate if and when they posted an article. I found an article and translated it like I said.

Some readers here were commenting about al-Jazeera in general and I was just contributing what I found to the thread. I don't have access (anymore) to the al-Jazeera tv channel, so I can't comment on what they are or are not reporting on. However, like I said previously: at the time of my first post (11, May) I found no article on the Arabic website. The article that I did find was dated today (12, May).

Regardless of what their intent is with the English version of their website, it is still accessible to anyone, not just a "target audience." Many people are skeptical about al-Jazeera's reporting techniques so I wanted to get the story "straight from the horse's mouth" rather than from a watered-down English language version.

[incubz5]

Aljazeera is to the Middle East as Fox News is to
America. Both purport to be free and fair when in fact both offer a less than free or fair product to their audience


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is the current headline story at Foxnews.com:

Senators See More Abuse Photos

Lawmakers get heavy dose of disturbing images taken at Abu Ghraib prison

http://www.foxnews.com/

I'm dying to see this idiot's response to this.

Ok chap, do you call this "unbalanced" reporting? Fox is no different than any other media outlet. It exists to sell stories and by stories I mean sensational tales! Fox is hardly Al Jazeera. If Fox were Al Jazeera it would print something like:

"Iraqis rape American POWs and kill their babies, Bush vows revenge!"

Get real.

[n4292936]

Go to the AlJazeera site, no where on the site will you find a story with a sensationalist title like that. The piont I was making, which you seem to be missing, is that each sides reporting is biased in favour of the target audiennce. A simple proposition, and the comparison is apt. Both sell stories, and both try to be appealing to their audiences in doing so. Simple as that.

[SeanAshi]

For all you stupid motherf*ckers up in here:Weedman Fook off mate! I started this thread because Al Jazeera made no mention of it. http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/forums/images/smilies/finger.gif

[incubz5]

n4292936,

No grasshopper, you initially said Fox, like Al Jazeera, was not "free" (whatever that means, I didn't even bother to address it). I simply pointed out Fox's latest headline: CONGRESS PISSED OFF AT US TORTURE OF IRAQIS. Something every liberal would be proud of were it headlined on CNN.com. Probably is.

You then segued into "Well Fox, like Al Jazeera, is trying to make big bucks by giving their audience sensational headlines."

No kidding. Their business is not to give data with intelligence (perspective, history, even-handedness), their business is to sell some stuff, glue some eyeballs to a television, a paper, a website. We know this already!

[n4292936]

do me a favour and next time you use qoutes to replicate my words, actually qoute me, not some bastardised misrepresentation of what I said. I said that Fox News had a product which, like Al Jazeera, was less that free and fair. Admitedly a better phrase would have been "fair and balanced", since both Fox news and Aljazeera are neither.
Once again, the point I was making is that Aljazeera is no more smear TV than Fox News is, and that they serve the same function in their respective cultures - poorly hidden biased journalism. I would suggest, like you seem to, that other western media outlets like BBC or CNN have that same bias towards a western audience, and therfore also contain some moral or ideological bias in favour of western thinking, but no one gets on their knees to perform felatio for the collective conservative american audience like Fox News. That in itself is ok, I have nothing against republicans per se. I do however take offence to the blithering tirades by people like O'reilly and others who constantly remind us that there is no spin and that the reporting is fair and balanced when it couldnt be further from just that. Al Jazeera has at least had the balls to say that it is news for a predominantly arab audience.

[weedman]

For all you stupid motherf*ckers up in here:Weedman Fook off mate! I started this thread because Al Jazeera made no mention of it. http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/forums/images/smilies/finger.gif...without checking out there site, hell yeah, motherf*cker.

I get tired of this ****...

[Beowulf]

this threads done for....locked