im looking for a .22 rifle thats shoots pistol ammo

[SOG]

i went shooting with my cousin a while back. he brought along a dinky ass .22 rifle that used a 10 mag clip. only thing was, it shot .22 pistol ammo. anyway, i had a lot of fun with it, it had nearly 0 recoil, the ammo was cheap and plentiful and pretty much anyone no matter their age/gender was able to shoot it. at the end of the day it was used the most out of everything he had.

i asked my cousin what brand his was but he said it was older than **** and he got it as a kid. so my question is, anyone know where i can score a rifle like that? price isnt a overall issue within reason. i just want something solid that uses .22 pistol ammo in a rifle configuration. 10 mag clip preferable as im in california.

also for those that have extensively shot .22, do you think i could get away with firing some rounds in my back yard? does it carry or does it sounds like someone using a BB gun or hammering ****? i have visual seculsion but am wondering about how it would sound. just a few rounds now and then for fun. i have a custom built backstop that will catch the round (several layers of carpet/wood/sand)

[boone]

The .22 rifles that I've owned (cooey for the most part) all shot "short" "long" or "long-rifle" cartridges. That being said, they were all bolt-action.
Also, If you've got neighbors, they're going to hear it. They might not i.d. it as gunfire right away, but they'll hear it.

[Kaapeli]

As the name implies .22LR (Long Rifle) is originally a rifle cartridge.
In my country it's the most common calibre for target shooting rifles and pistols both so I don't see why you couldn't find one in any gun shop where ever you are located.

edit. I assume you meant .22LR since it's by far the most popular .22 ammo.

[Freibier]

For a cowboy like you, a Marlin 39A would fit nicely.
has a 26-19 capacity and shoots 22.short 22.long and .22 long rifle.

[Fade]

The .22 rifles that I've owned (cooey for the most part) all shot "short" "long" or "long-rifle" cartridges. That being said, they were all bolt-action.
Same, good old Cooey bolt woot


Also, If you've got neighbors, they're going to hear it. They might not i.d. it as gunfire right away, but they'll hear it.

Definitely.

[RAFREGT.]

Also, If you've got neighbors, they're going to hear it. They might not i.d. it as gunfire right away, but they'll hear it.


My mate has a .22 he uses for rabbits, got a silencer on it, and i swear, its so quiet, its spooky, just a "dink" of the hammer striking then a "thud" of the impactp-). Quieter then an air rifle!

[AnUbIs]

Buy some subsonic ammo if you want it to be quiet.

The diffrence between Regular Ammo and Subsonic With a long rifle

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3351008563013341673&q=subsonic++22&total=23&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

[mobi]

ruger 10/22-no substitute...although a .22LR, who cares cheap and fun. endless upgrades and a better chance of finding a silencer if your planning on shooting in your backyard. Dont underestimate the power and range of deflecting .22, i've been surprised on many occasions after a thorough shooting site reccon.

[California Joe]

Look for an old "Gallery gun" or a replica. I think Rossi made a replica of the Winchester model. They were pump actions with tubular magazines. Usually Winchesters or Remingtons I believe. I have a Remington 11 that would fire any of the .22 calibers. If it wasn't missing a few parts. You were probably firing .22 shorts. .22 Long Rifle is louder. As far as I know there is no such thing as a "10 mag clip" or specific ".22 pistol ammo".


.22 BB Cap
.22 Bulleted Breech Cap, is a .22 caliber rimfire cartridge, .22 BB cap and .22 CB refer to cartridges that are low velocity and project reduced noise. These rimfires closely resemble a .22 caliber air rifle in power and are often used for indoor shooting and close range pest control. Developed for indoor shooting galleries with special "rimfire gallery guns", the .22 BB Cap was the first rimfire cartridge, dating back to 1845. It has no separate propellant charge, relying on the impulse created by the primer alone to fire a round lead ball.
Specifications:
Case Length: 0.284 in.
Overall Length: .343 in.
Bullet weight - 18 gr. / Velocity - 700 fps. / Energy - 20 ft.lb.

.22 CB Cap
.22 Conical Ball Cap, is a .22 caliber rimfire cartridge which has a very small propellant charge (usually no gunpowder, just the primer), resulting in low muzzle velocity. This is similar to the muzzle velocity produced by a low to mid-power .22 pellet gun, however it should be noted that the bullet from a .22 CB cartridge is significantly heavier than a typical airgun pellet and therefore carries more energy. Due to their low power, CB rounds can be trapped by most pellet gun traps. CB rimfire rounds are often used for indoor shooting practice or for small pest control in areas where a limited range is an advantage due to crowding. The original .22 CB rimfire cartridge has the same case as the .22 BB Cap.
Specifications:
Case length: .284 in.
Bullet weight - 20 gr. / Velocity - 700 fps. / Energy - 22 ft.lb.
Bullet weight - 29 gr. / Velocity - 350 fps. / Energy - 8 ft.lb.

.22 Short
.22 short, is a .22 caliber rimfire cartridge. Developed in 1857 for the first Smith and Wesson revolver, the .22 Short rimfire was the first American metallic cartridge. The original loading was a 29 grain bullet and 4 grains of black powder. Developed for self defense, the modern .22 Short, though still used in a few pocket pistols and mini-revolvers, is mainly used as a quiet round for practice. Due to its low recoil and good inherent accuracy, the .22 Short was used for the Olympic 25 m Rapid Fire Pistol event until 2004.
Specifications:
Case Length: .423 in.
Overall Length: .686 in.
Bullet weight - 29 gr. / Velocity - 1,045 fps. / Energy - 70 ft.lb.

.22 Long
.22 Long, is a .22 caliber rimfire cartridge. The .22 Long dates back to 1871, when it was loaded with a 29 grain bullet and 5 grains of black powder, 25% more than the .22 Short rimfire it was based on. It was designed for use in revolvers, but was soon chambered in rifles as well. Many .22 Long Rifle guns will chamber and fire the shorter round, though the .22 Long generally does not generate sufficient energy to operate semiautomatic guns.
Specifications:
CaseLength: .595 in.
Overall Length: .880 in.
Bullet weight - 29 gr. / Velocity - 1,240 fps. / Energy - 99 ft.lb.

.22 Long Rifle
.22 Long Rifle, is a rimfire cartridge that is well established with a variety of ammunition loadings, and in terms of units sold is still by far the most common in the world today. The .22 Long Rifle rimfire is a heavier loading of the .22 Long case and appeared in 1887, along with the first smokeless powder loadings of the .22 rimfires. It is one of the few cartridges that are accepted by a large variety of rifles, as well as pistols. Virtually every manufacturer of cartridge firearms makes at least one model chambering it, and this has been true for more than a century. There are a variety of different types of .22 Long Rifle (or ".22 LR") rimfire loads.
Specifications:
Case length: .595 in.
Case diameter: .225 in.
Bullet diameter: .224 in.
Rim diameter: .271 in.
Rim thickness: .040 in.
Cartridge overall length: .985 in.
Bullet weight - 40 gr. / Velocity - 1,082 fps. / Energy - 104 ft.lb. / (Subsonic)
Bullet weight - 36 gr. / Velocity - 1,328 fps. / Energy - 141 ft.lb. / (High Velocity

[Fade]

ruger 10/22-no substitute...
Amen, got myself the carbine :)

[SOG]

wow thanks for all the replies! that was my problem in searching google, i didnt put 22 long or 22 short.


For a cowboy like you, a Marlin 39A would fit nicely.
has a 26-19 capacity and shoots 22.short 22.long and .22 long rifle.
these clips look dead on to what i was using.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jp498cc1022ruger.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_10/22


Look for an old "Gallery gun" or a replica. I think Rossi made a replica of the Winchester model. They were pump actions with tubular magazines. Usually Winchesters or Remingtons I believe. I have a Remington 11 that would fire any of the .22 calibers. If it wasn't missing a few parts. You were probably firing .22 shorts. .22 Long Rifle is louder. As far as I know there is no such thing as a "10 mag clip" or specific ".22 pistol ammo".

thanks for the specs, i almost positive it was .22LR now.

from wikipedia

The Ruger 10/22 is a semi-automatic rimfire rifle chambered in .22 Long Rifle. It has a removable 10-round (or 5-round) rotary magazine which allows the magazine to fit flush with the bottom of the stock. High capacity magazines are also available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_10/22

i was pretty sure it was ten rounds because i was able to fire off quite a bit and im sure it didnt exceed the ten round limit california has. and i almost positive my cousin doesnt have anything illegal/pre-ban. fun gun!

so from this picture right here, that ammo is 22 long? i thought it would be short but the wikipedia states the Ruger 10/22 fires mainly .22LR and im positive thats the casing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jp498cc1022ruger.jpg

awesome! thanks for the help guys. i wont do anything foolish shooting it in my yard. deifinetly going for the ruger 10/22, this one right here, for about 300
http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=1140&return=Y

i shot second from left, to me that was very short! hence my confusion!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimfire_ammunition

[scrybe]

Another vote for the Ruger 10/22 here.

[Fade]

so from this picture right here, that ammo is 22 long? i thought it would be short but the wikipedia states the Ruger 10/22 fires mainly .22LR and im positive thats the casing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jp498cc1022ruger.jpg


That is a long.



awesome! thanks for the help guys. i wont do anything foolish shooting it in my yard. deifinetly going for the ruger 10/22, this one right here, for about 300
http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=1140&return=Y

Can't go wrong with that stainless beauty woot

[AnUbIs]

The .22 rifle i own and love is a Henry Youth Lever , Probably the only gun i will keep with me till the day i die haha.

http://www.henryrepeating.com/h001y_leveryouth.cfm

Ill post a picture of this beast tommorow

[BillySing]

If your that worried about noise and what-not, just buy an Air rifle! Especially since you sound like your just doing paper punching within a residential area.

Quiet, Cheap, and Accurate, and you become a damn fine shot. As a little tacker I used to shoot a 1000 rounds over the weekend, for about 16.50 $. I could shoot bottle caps offhand at 30 metres.......It was very good practice. And it's alot easier on the ears, and when shooting the report doesn't upset concentration.

There's the very real chance of ricochet with a .22 LR, an Air rifle significantly decreases that chance. (Not to say it won't happen with an Air rifle: always wear safety glasses)

Maybe you'll end up broadening your options.........Just a Suggestion. :)

[Buckeye67]

i went shooting with my cousin a while back. he brought along a dinky ass .22 rifle that used a 10 mag clip. only thing was, it shot .22 pistol ammo. anyway, i had a lot of fun with it, it had nearly 0 recoil, the ammo was cheap and plentiful and pretty much anyone no matter their age/gender was able to shoot it. at the end of the day it was used the most out of everything he had.

i asked my cousin what brand his was but he said it was older than **** and he got it as a kid. so my question is, anyone know where i can score a rifle like that? price isnt a overall issue within reason. i just want something solid that uses .22 pistol ammo in a rifle configuration. 10 mag clip preferable as im in california.

As has been mentioned, you really can't go wrong with a Ruger 10/22.


also for those that have extensively shot .22, do you think i could get away with firing some rounds in my back yard? does it carry or does it sounds like someone using a BB gun or hammering ****? i have visual seculsion but am wondering about how it would sound. just a few rounds now and then for fun. i have a custom built backstop that will catch the round (several layers of carpet/wood/sand)

It is a hideously bad idea to discharge a firearm in any area where it is not legal to do so, even a .22. There are plenty of places (legal ones) to shoot. Were you to have a run-in with the police over it, not only are you screwing yourself - but your behavior would reflect badly on gun-owners in general. The last thing we need is another "incident" to stir up the anti-gun crowd (particularly in a state as anti-gun as California).

If you reside in an area where you can legally discharge a firearm in your back yard, disregard the previous and carry-on, as long as you comply with the law and conduct your shooting in a safe and responsible manner.

If you don't - then I would strongly advise against attempting it.

[martinexsquaddie]

get an air rifle for home shooting much less bother

[SOG]

no worries i wont do any yard shooting, i was using a pellet air gun before in the yard. gets a little boring. i was just wondering because the bullets were so small.

otherwise i only own a shotgun which was rather expensive to buy ammo for at the range. i had fun with the .22 and deicided i wanted to snag one since i dont meet up with my cousin to go shooting very often. this way i can go to a local range, fire off 20 bucks, go home, clean the gun and call it the beginning of a good day.

thanks all!

[T.H.E. rooster]

Around here twenty bucks gets more than a thousand rounds of .22LR. Thats a hell of a lot of shootin' for one day!
-good choice on the 10/22

[SOG]

that is incredibly exciting as i was used to paying nearly a dollar per shot for a 12 gauge slug at 5-10 per box! good grief, i didnt realize how cheap .22 ammo really was! ill go home when i tire of loading. im a so-so shot as it is. this will help me with the basics concerning rifles as i can go more regularly. before i would mainly use my cousins HK .40 or crazy desert eagle in which case i didnt like the weight or the kick. the roar was a crowd pleaser though! anytime i was alone i would just bring the family shotgun. fun but costly.

[Otsoa]

i was pretty sure it was ten rounds because i was able to fire off quite a bit and im sure it didnt exceed the ten round limit california has. and i almost positive my cousin doesnt have anything illegal/pre-ban. fun gun!

What I think Cali Joe is getting at is what you term a "clip" is properly known as a magazine. A clip is something one would use to reload a magazine. I know some would say "what is the friggin difference?!" but there is and some people do care about such things.

Now we have that out of the way, you really can't go wrong with a Ruger 10/22. Lots of parts and accessories, numerous magazine choices, and just plain fun to shoot. Really shouldn't have sold mine a few years ago but hey, that just gives me a good excuse to go out and buy one :D

[Death.]

+10000 on ruger 10/22

[T.H.E. rooster]

that is incredibly exciting as i was used to paying nearly a dollar per shot for a 12 gauge slug at 5-10 per box! good grief, i didnt realize how cheap .22 ammo really was! ill go home when i tire of loading. im a so-so shot as it is. this will help me with the basics concerning rifles as i can go more regularly. before i would mainly use my cousins HK .40 or crazy desert eagle in which case i didnt like the weight or the kick. the roar was a crowd pleaser though! anytime i was alone i would just bring the family shotgun. fun but costly.
I only use size 8 birdshot for plinking(if you can even plink with a shotgun to begin with!), I get that for $15 per hundred at Walmart. They have Remington and Federal Premium, but I usually just get the winchester. I imagine shooting slugs gets expensive.

[California Joe]

I'm pretty sure this thread should have been called:

"I want a cool .22, any ideas?"


:)

[gaijinsamurai]

Ruger 10-22.
I've had mine for 24 years now, and it's been great.

[James]

I'm pretty sure this thread should have been called:
"I want a cool .22, any ideas?"
:)
My dad earned himself a Winchester pump .22 (1906, I think) in about 1957 for mowing a lawn - some old lady didn't have a lot of cash, so she let him have her dead husband's rifle in payment.
How times have changed.

[Hollis]

James those are really nice 22's. I have one that is also a take down model same with the 1890 WRM (They may have all have been that way). Some one mentioned that some "investment brokers" have recommended those with money to invest in old collectables as a way of diversifying their portfolio. One reason these old firearms have gone up a lot in the last few years.

Neat thing about 22's, once can never own enough. I have a Rem auto loader that is one of the very few that will shoot Shorts, Longs and LR.

[Death.]

I'm pretty sure this thread should have been called:

"I want a cool .22, any ideas?"


:)

In that case it should have just been "I want a Ruger 10/22, should I buy it now or tomorrow?"

With a bunch of 'hell yeahs!' as the replies.

[Hollis]

In that case it should have just been "I want a Ruger 10/22, should I buy it now or tomorrow?"

With a bunch of 'hell yeahs!' as the replies.


I am not really impressed with the 10/22. I bought two, one for my son and daughter. One had the worse trigger I have ever felt, the other was just bad. I re-worked the triggers on both. The worse was a major PIA to get right. Ruger QC is lacking. I had a vaquero that when loading the cylendar would lock up, there was insuffiecent clearance between the cylender and the frame for the case rim. Marlin, makes a fine out of the box firearm same with Savage and others.

I feel one should not have to spend $$ to get a out of the box firearm to work reasonablely well.

If you get a 10/22, besure to check it out before hand.

[gaijinsamurai]

You may be right, Hollis.
Personally, I've owned about eight different Rugers over the years (have two now), and with the exception of the .357 Blackhawk, have all been good, dependable guns. But, I have heard that Rugers can be really hit/miss when it comes to quality control (kinda like Chicom SKSs), and you'd probably do yourself a favor to look it over well before making the purchase.
But, it's probably nothing a little gunsmithing couldn't handle. Plus, the 10-22 is second to none when it comes for availability of aftermarket accessories.

[Death.]

I am not really impressed with the 10/22. I bought two, one for my son and daughter. One had the worse trigger I have ever felt, the other was just bad. I re-worked the triggers on both. The worse was a major PIA to get right. Ruger QC is lacking. I had a vaquero that when loading the cylendar would lock up, there was insuffiecent clearance between the cylender and the frame for the case rim. Marlin, makes a fine out of the box firearm same with Savage and others.

I feel one should not have to spend $$ to get a out of the box firearm to work reasonablely well.

If you get a 10/22, besure to check it out before hand.

I guess the more recent manufacturing is starting to go downhill then with the rest of US made products

I've never had a problem with my 10/22

[Hollis]

I guess the more recent manufacturing is starting to go downhill then with the rest of US made products

I've never had a problem with my 10/22


Maybe I was just the unlucky recepitant of a Monday morning special. Generally, they have a really good reputation.