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I can't think of a name
09-05-2007, 04:51 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFF79G0&show_article=1

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REDWOOD CITY, Calif. (AP) - Disgraced Democratic fundraiser Norman Hsu (http://get.lingospot.com/f?url=http%3A//search.breitbart.com/q%3Fs%3D%22hsu%22%26sid%3Dbreitbart.com&eid=csl&tid=364b42b1e&site=breitbart.com) was a wanted man again after he failed to show up for a court date Wednesday and a judge issued a new warrant for his arrest. Hsu, whose criminal past has roiled the campaigns of top presidential candidates, was scheduled to ask a judge to cut in half the $2 million bail he posted last week when he turned himself in after spending 15 years on the lam from a felony theft conviction.
Instead, San Mateo Superior Court Judge Robert Foiles ordered Hsu's bail forfeited to the county and issued a new arrest warrant. If Hsu is arrested again, he will be jailed without bail this time.
Hsu, a Hong Kong native, was also supposed to turn over his passport Wednesday. Hsu's prominent Silicon Valley criminal defense attorney Jim Brosnahan said Hsu failed to give the passport to the legal team on Monday.
"Mr. Hsu is not here and we do not know where Mr. Hsu is," Brosnahan said outside court. Brosnahan said that "there was some contact" with Hsu a few hours before the scheduled 9 a.m. court appearance, but he declined to say how and who talked to Hsu.
Hsu pleaded no contest in 1991 to a felony count of grand theft (http://get.lingospot.com/f?url=http%3A//search.breitbart.com/q%3Fs%3D%22grand+theft%22%26sid%3Dbreitbart.com&eid=csl&tid=3019b3497&site=breitbart.com), admitting he'd defrauded investors of $1 million after falsely claiming to have contracts to purchase and sell Latex gloves. He was facing up to three years in prison when he skipped town before his 1992 sentencing date.
Prosecutors said they suspected Hsu fled the country then. But a few years ago, Hsu re-emerged in New York as an apparel executive and a wealthy benefactor of Democratic causes and candidates. They included presidential contenders Barack Obama (http://get.lingospot.com/f?url=http%3A//search.breitbart.com/q%3Fs%3D%22Barack+Obama%22%26sid%3Dbreitbart.com&eid=csl&tid=814ba5731&site=breitbart.com) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (http://get.lingospot.com/f?url=http%3A//search.breitbart.com/q%3Fs%3D%22Hillary+Rodham%20Clinton%22%26sid%3Dbreitbart.com&eid=csl&tid=b2cd51582&site=breitbart.com), whose campaign designated Hsu a "HillRaiser"—a title given to top donors.
Brosnahan said he didn't know if Hsu returned to his Manhattan condominium or stayed in California after his five-hour jail stint Friday when Hsu turned himself in. He was released from jail after posting $2 million bail, which a judge refused then to reduce to $1 million.
Prosecutors with the California Attorney General's office had agreed to the bail reduction because it would be used to reimburse the victims Hsu admitted swindling out of $1 million in the early 1990s.
"We did think that was enough," Deputy Attorney General Ralph Sivilla said outside court. Sivilla also said he was troubled that Hsu didn't turn in his passport.
Federal Election Commission records show Hsu donated $260,000 to Democratic Party groups and federal candidates since 2004. Though a top fundraiser for Clinton, he also donated to Obama's Senate campaign in 2004 and to his political action committee. He also contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to state and municipal candidates.
After reports surfaced of his fugitive status, politicians at all levels scrambled to distance themselves. On Wednesday, Rhode Island Rep. Patrick Kennedy (http://get.lingospot.com/f?url=http%3A//search.breitbart.com/q%3Fs%3D%22Patrick+Kennedy%22%26sid%3Dbreitbart.com&eid=csl&tid=b86fbba44&site=breitbart.com), who initially said he would keep the $6,200 from Hsu, announced that he would give the money to charity.
Kennedy had originally counted $6,600 in donations, but a review of federal campaign records showed it was actually $6,200.
Obama's campaign said it would give to charity the $2,000 Hsu contributed to his 2004 Senate campaign and the $5,000 Hsu gave to his political action committee, Hopefund.
Hsu's $43,700 in donations to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (http://get.lingospot.com/f?url=http%3A//search.breitbart.com/q%3Fs%3D%22Democratic+Senatorial%20Campaign%20Committee%22%26sid%3Dbreitbart.com&eid=csl&tid=75810fdb3&site=breitbart.com) and $2,500 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (http://get.lingospot.com/f?url=http%3A//search.breitbart.com/q%3Fs%3D%22Democratic+Congressional%20Campaign%20Committee%22%26sid%3Dbreitbart.com&eid=csl&tid=f8734b70c&site=breitbart.com) also will go to charity, both groups said.
Clinton joined the other candidates, returning $23,000 in contributions that Hsu made to her presidential and senatorial campaigns and to her political action committee, HillPac. But his close association with her campaign put Clinton on the defensive.
Last week, Hsu said he thought the criminal charges had been taken care of when he completed his bankruptcy proceedings in the early 1990s.
"I have not sought to evade any of my obligations and certainly not the law," Hsu said in a prepared statement.
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Alpheus
09-05-2007, 05:19 PM
Holy ****, AP actually mention the Democrats!! And there I was thinking we would have another game of guess-the-party.

nemowork
09-05-2007, 06:00 PM
If Abramoff was a scandal how do you Describe Norman Hsu?

Missing and poorer!

Without a Passport its not like he can go anywhere, you'll get him back in court as soon as he gets tired. Meanwhile the Republicans can have fun with a Democrat scandal for a change!

Merfeller
09-05-2007, 06:03 PM
Democrat scandal for a change? LOL.

2Sheds_Jackson
09-05-2007, 07:21 PM
Democrat scandal for a change? LOL.

Hey, fund-raising just can't compete with soliciting gay bathroom ***. One has bar graphs and boring laws - the other is a Benny Hill-esque romp in the park with your pants down. Republicans win!

But it will be very, very interesting to see where this leads to. I can already see exotic looking flowcharts connecting the good Mr. Hsu and Hillary with the multiple scandals during her husband's administration involving a certain large Asian nation swollen with cash.

California Joe
09-05-2007, 08:00 PM
Heh, you said swollen.

I can't think of a name
09-05-2007, 08:38 PM
If Abramoff was a scandal how do you Describe Norman Hsu?

Missing and poorer!

Without a Passport its not like he can go anywhere, you'll get him back in court as soon as he gets tired. Meanwhile the Republicans can have fun with a Democrat scandal for a change!

He still has his passport, he told the court that he could not find it. I bet he still has it then. The Court does not.

I can't think of a name
09-05-2007, 08:39 PM
Hey, fund-raising just can't compete with soliciting gay bathroom ***. One has bar graphs and boring laws - the other is a Benny Hill-esque romp in the park with your pants down. Republicans win!

But it will be very, very interesting to see where this leads to. I can already see exotic looking flowcharts connecting the good Mr. Hsu and Hillary with the multiple scandals during her husband's administration involving a certain large Asian nation swollen with cash.

don't forget the "Buddhist monks" that donated to Gore in 2000

2Sheds_Jackson
09-05-2007, 09:02 PM
Heh, you said swollen.

I don't know what you're getting at. I was just trying to say that with the Clintons, there were all those accusations about foreign money lubricating the wheels of government, campaigns engorged with cash, and improper deals suddenly ejaculating all over the face and dress of campaign finance laws. What?

Calanen
09-06-2007, 12:13 PM
Without a Passport its not like he can go anywhere, you'll get him back in court as soon as he gets tired. Meanwhile the Republicans can have fun with a Democrat scandal for a change

As a general proposition (rather than Hsu in particular) - I think you'd be wrong about that.

Also, I think you missed this part of the article:



Hsu, a Hong Kong native, was also supposed to turn over his passport Wednesday. Hsu's prominent Silicon Valley criminal defense attorney Jim Brosnahan said Hsu failed to give the passport to the legal team on Monday

nemowork
09-06-2007, 07:07 PM
Ah well, teaches me not to trust the breaking headlines and wait for the later reports. the first TV news shots i caught said he'd given it in.

loganinkosovo
09-06-2007, 09:05 PM
He still has his passport, he told the court that he could not find it. I bet he still has it then. The Court does not.

Hsu is gone.....ran back to his Chi-com Controllers. Just like all the other ChinaGate Clinton contributors.

nemowork
09-07-2007, 09:57 AM
Nope, he was in Colorado, now he's in Jail :D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070907/ap_on_el_pr/democratic_fundraiser

I can't think of a name
09-07-2007, 03:28 PM
Hillary going to an Ex-Cons fund raiser.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/225882.html


"I'm pretty sure we're going to work something out," said DNC member and former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez. "We don't want to lose delegates to the convention, and we don't want to hurt Florida voters." ...Reflecting their dependence on Florida donors, Hillary Clinton's campaign has scheduled five fundraisers around Sunday's presidential forum at the University of Miami. Tonight, President Bill Clinton is scheduled to attend a $1,000-per-person reception in Pembroke Pines. On Monday, Hillary Clinton will appear at a Miami Beach breakfast aimed at Hispanic women, a luncheon at Martinez's home in Hialeah, and two more fundraisers in Palm Beach County.


So, who is Raul Martinez?
He's the former mayor of Hialeah, Florida with a shady past. Back in 1991 (http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:X8ykPvVP0joJ:topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/m/mayors/index.html%3Fquery%3DMARTINEZ,%2520RAUL%26field%3Dper%26match%3Dexact+raul+martinez+racketeering,+extortion&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us),

"Mayor Raul Martinez, was convicted of extortion and racketeering...after a jury found he had accepted $1 million in cash and property from land developers." The conviction was reversed on appeal and two hung juries later (http://www.miaminewtimes.com/1999-02-18/news/public-park-as-political-feud/), he had managed to lawyer his way out of going to jail.
But, that wasn't the only controversy Martinez was involved in. In 1993, he won an election that a judge threw out because of voter fraud (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n10_v14/ai_20391681),

"The mayoralty elections are supposedly nonpartisan, even though party affiliations are well-known. So all of this frenetic activity by the Democratic establishment in a struggle between a Republican and an independent contrasts sharply with the laid-back attitude by the same establishment toward voter fraud in the 1993 mayoralty race in the city of Hialeah, also in Miami-Dade. That election eerily prefigured the Carollo-Suarez contest, except that the challenger, Nilo Juri, was a well-known Republican and incumbent Raul Martinez, in his third term, was the rising star of the Democrats. Martinez was counted in by 273 votes, which was all the more remarkable because, at the time of the election, he was a convicted felon sentenced to 10 years in prison for extortion and racketeering. (The conviction was reversed on appeal three years later) Democratic Gov. Lawton Chiles refused to intervene, saying that the people had spoken, and allowed Martinez to be seated despite the mayor's conviction. Juri refused to give up. He had held a slight edge in the polls going into the election, and he was the absolute winner among the machine-tallied ballots. But the Martinez organization had produced a 2-1 advantage in absentee ballots, and the same tactics currently at issue in the Carollo-Suarez Miami election were obvious in the Hialeah election. Juri pursued his case in court, and in 1994 Dade Circuit Court Judge Sidney Shapiro held that the election was affected by substantial fraud, threw out the absentee ballots, and ordered a new election.
More peculiar was the fact that Martinez's sister-in-law, Maria del Pilar "Lula" Rodriguez, was at that time the personal assistant to Reno at the Justice Department in Washington. Before joining her friend at Justice, she had been in charge of the Miami office of Democratic Sen. Bob Graham. Indeed, Rodriguez had taken a vacation from Justice at the time of the election to help out in her brother-in-law's campaign. Moreover, her signature as a witness was on 14 of the allegedly fraudulent absentee ballots. Thus not only did she, while an employee of the Department of Justice and personal assistant to the attorney general, participate in the election campaign of a convicted felon, but she is alleged to have been a participant in the election fraud."
So Martinez was accused of racketeering, extortion, and connected to voter fraud, yet he's now raising money for Hillary Clinton? Given Hillary's questionable and shady record when it comes to fundraising, people may be disappointed that she's associating with someone like Martinez, but no one can be too surprised.

11 Bravo
09-07-2007, 09:21 PM
Hillary going to an Ex-Cons fund raiser.

but no one can be too surprised.


When it comes to the sieg heil Klintonista crowd... no surprises there. It's all about them... and their greed for power & money at EVERYONE'S expense.
Seems so many toadies have forgotten the money gathering of the billy clintonista regime of past. And to think some demos are wanting magda hillary in office..... scary !.

I can't think of a name
09-09-2007, 01:37 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/08/hsu-and-the-shrimp-boy/

Wow, this keeps getting bigger and bigger. I don't have TV right now so can anyone tell me if TV news is covering this?