Bin Laden to Address Americans on 9/11/07

[usa_patriot]

Associated Press
Sept. 6, 2007 02:46 PM
CAIRO, Egypt - Terror mastermind Osama bin Laden plans a new video addressing the American people regarding the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, terror monitoring groups said Thursday.

SITE Intelligence Group said an Internet announcement of the plan included a photo of the al-Qaida leader from the upcoming video - his beard, which in previous messages had been streaked with gray, was entirely dark.

The Intelcenter, which also monitors Islamic Web sites, said the video is expected within the next 72 hours, before the sixth anniversary of the World Trade Center attack. The last bin Laden video was in October 2004, shortly before the U.S. presidential elections.

****ING DIE ALREADY BIN LADEN YOU ****ER

[socom6]

What the fcuk this murderous scum wants to say now?

[wicked_hind]

What the fcuk this murderous scum wants to say now?

Probably to offer amnesty for us again, tell us the benefits of converting to Islam, that being non-believers is uncool, the same ol' garbage.

[PaulClift]

What the fcuk this murderous scum wants to say now?

Something along the lines of...

'uh, some people out there in our nation don't have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like, such as and I believe that they should.......'

[AROUETLJ]

What the fcuk this murderous scum wants to say now?

He wants to offer advice on hair dye products.

[wicked_hind]

He wants to offer advice on hair dye products.

Or what he said. I hear that sales of Just For Men has been slowly decreasing.

[SBL]

What the fcuk this murderous scum wants to say now?

"You guys have any antibiotics?"

[Lifeinasmallbox]

****ING DIE ALREADY BIN LADEN YOU ****ER


110% agreed..this guy is like Herpes

[budgie]

What the fcuk this murderous scum wants to say now?


He's dead dude. Osama 'bin dead since 2002. Just the Bushies' gift that keeps on 'giving': the Jihadists want to keep the dream alive so they hide it; the administration wants to keep a myriad justifications alive so they go along. He's dead. Find another boogeyman.

[Lifeinasmallbox]

He's dead dude. Osama 'bin dead since 2002. Just the Bushies' gift that keeps on 'giving': the Jihadists want to keep the dream alive so they hide it; the administration wants to keep a myriad justifications alive so they go along. He's dead. Find another boogeyman.

Any reliable source? or is CNN the only channel that works now? :D

[SBL]

Any reliable source? or is CNN the only channel that works now? :D

Personally agree with him (budgie), but I also think it's a pretty handy policy.

[saBBBat]

Why would you think that the US gov is lying to us? Smoking too much herb?

If Bin Laden was killed, he would be celebrated as a martyr.

[socom6]

He's dead dude. Osama 'bin dead since 2002. Just the Bushies' gift that keeps on 'giving': the Jihadists want to keep the dream alive so they hide it; the administration wants to keep a myriad justifications alive so they go along. He's dead. Find another boogeyman.

Thanks for all the quotes guys lol.

Budgie he aint dead as much as I want that bastard takfiri swine dead, he is very much alive and heartfully not too well since he's using hair dye to hide how aged he has become which means the fcuker is suffering and im glad for that.

Ya know Budgie your intense dislike of George Bush is quite unhealthy, free your mind man or you will get ulcers.:roll:

[Limeyfellow]

Why would you think that the US gov is lying to us? Smoking too much herb?

If Bin Laden was killed, he would be celebrated as a martyr.

Its pretty sad, but they could tell the truth about everything under the sun from now on and still no one will believe a word being said. Its the old boy who shouted wolf too much syndrome.

[8thidpathfinderpower]

110% agreed..this guy is like Herpes


What...the gift that keeps on giving? I was thinking in terms of a boil on the butt....painful, festering, and ready to pop at any second

[Power_serj]

Actually, if Bin Laden was dead, don't you think the Bush Adminsitration would publicily announce it for killing the terrorist who attacked our country. He would get pretty good props.

[LaoSexMachine]

This thread went downhill quick!

[Lifeinasmallbox]

What...the gift that keeps on giving? I was thinking in terms of a boil on the butt....painful, festering, and ready to pop at any second

touche...a boil was my second guess :D

[CreepingDeath]

What the fcuk this murderous scum wants to say now?

"I am Sorry"...?

[sinophile]

ya know... most times when a Bush admin official is interviewed about OBL they say the fight isn't about one man.

I used to think they were making the point that success and failure doesn't ride with finding him.

The other way of looking at it is he's dead, they know it, but they don't want the fight declared over if its ever released.

Of course if I was AQ I might conclude his death was a good thing to publicize.

Of course that assumes they know he's dead. He could be in an interrogation facility in Poland.

I'm dizzy now... can I please stop?

[PaulClift]

"I am Sorry"...?

perhaps followed by "I got in with the wrong crowd"?

[shilka]

go to hell Bin Laden

[wicked_hind]

"You guys have any antibiotics?"

All I've got is Naa Na..Na..Na..Na...Neo.....Na Na Na Na Na Na Na.....Sporin.

[budgie]

Any reliable source? or is CNN the only channel that works now? :D

CNN haven't said he's dead either. It's just my hunch as he hasn't released any new material in a while and his videos all appear to have been shot before the fight at Tora Bora, then released later. There's been no definitive proof since then that bin Laden is alive.


Actually, if Bin Laden was dead, don't you think the Bush Adminsitration[sic] would publicily announce it for killing the terrorist who attacked our country. He would get pretty good props.

Without a body? Even the Chimp isn't that stupid. The man is a dangerous terrorist and must be consiered at large till then.

But I suspect he's dead.

[lightfire]

Bin Laden was killed by Bruce Willis. Appeared to be a robot. End of story, wag the dog.

<insert sarcasm somewhere>

[Con-man]

perhaps followed by "I got in with the wrong crowd"?

"Look... somebody was passing a bong around and I had to fit in with the guys... next thing I know I've sent some crazy ****ers into towers..."

And I don't think either side would be willing to say whether he's been killed or not. For the US saying that he's dead makes him a martyr, for the Taliban and Al Qaeda saying that he's dead means that the image has vanished, and less people would consider the fight against the US one that can be won.

[Templar@Large]

"Look... somebody was passing a bong around and I had to fit in with the guys... next thing I know I've sent some crazy ****ers into towers..."

And I don't think either side would be willing to say whether he's been killed or not. For the US saying that he's dead makes him a martyr, for the Taliban and Al Qaeda saying that he's dead means that the image has vanished, and less people would consider the fight against the US one that can be won.

Humm !!!! I see it clearly now, Yeah ! "NOT"rofl

[Bitogno]

According to French newspaper LeFigaro US government allready has the video.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/07/binladen.tape/index.html

[ltrowley]

Wow, this is like the opposite of the Queen's Christmas Speech

"You've all been very bad and expect to die soon..until then, live your pathetic godless lives and await the rapture. Good bye and goodnight!"

[EsoognomEhT]

9th November? How strange...

Methinks the Simpsons should do a version like they did for the Queens Speech

[B25Hmitchell]

I bet Noam Chomsky is glad he is also endorsed by Osama BL.

Quote:
Bin Laden also recommended reading books by American authors Noam Chomsky and Michael Scheuer, a former CIA analyst, officials said. Chomsky's book cites various examples of American imperialism, while Scheuer's book argues that the U.S. does not understand the Islamic predicament.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20640658/

[Lifeinasmallbox]

And if this muf**ker died dont you think that one of his followers would have been announced as the new leader or some crap. I choose not to follows this cocksuckers story so correct me if im wrong... but when Saddam met his end like 5 new guys came out...and when those guys were gone...there was always more...seems to be a trend with the guys

[B25Hmitchell]

He won me over with this closing statement:

"To conclude," bin Laden says, "I invite you to embrace Islam." He goes on to say: "There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/new-obl-tape-ir.html

[I can't think of a name]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2607/osama3mg1.png

^^^ See Transcript. Sounds like a Socialist or a (D) rep on the house floor

"Corporations" "global Warming" he could be elected in some parts of the US.

[JJC]

Honestly it was a surprise to me that Bin Laden mentioned Noam Chomsky the (Tortsky of modern world left movement) and CIA guy Scheuer. I wonder if he had their books translated for him?

Scheuer is a disturbing dude because he is an "AQ expert", but after he appeared on Cavuto to comment on the Osama tape, he sounded like a spokesman for AQ rather a CIA expert. Basically Scheuer reassured us fellow Americans that AQ won't bother us if we let them do what they want in the Arab world (remove Arab dictators and install an Islamic state). Scheuer believes that we should change our foreign policy in the middle east and let the AQ take over the dictators that we support and the world will be a nice place after that. According to Scheuer AQ's hate has nothing to do with Western values, but us meddling in the middle east. Cavuto forgot to ask Scheuer why Bin Laden again asked Americans to convert to Islam?

[dangerclose]

In his latest tape, Bin Laden launches into a rant indistinguishable from any liberal democrat. At least he cares about global warming though all the suicide car bombings can't be helping in that regard.


September 07, 2007 2:15 PM

ABC News' Jonathan Karl Reports: ABC News has obtained a transcript of the latest taped message from Osama bin Laden.

Sources tell ABC News the tape, bin Laden's first message in three years, is approximately 30 minutes long, and does not contain overt threats to the United States.

According to the transcript, which can be viewed by clicking here, bin Laden opens with "praise to Allah" and his "law of retaliation" -- "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and the killer is killed."

Bin Laden also spoke to the ongoing situation in Iraq throughout the tape, heavily criticizing the Bush administration.

He says to the American people, "you made one of your greatest mistakes, in that you neither brought to account nor punished those who waged this war, not even the most violent of its murderers, [former Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld…"

"You permitted Bush to complete his first term, and stranger still, chose him for a second term, which gave him a clear mandate from you -- with your full knowledge and consent -- to continue to murder our people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you claim to be innocent! The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th -- were I to claim such a thing."

Bin Laden says President Bush's words echo "neoconservatives like Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Richard Perle."

"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there."

The transcript indicates that bin Laden refers to statements from U.S. soldiers in Iraq, from an interview taped by a British journalist. Portions of the interview aired in a July report on ABC News.

"It would benefit you to listen to the poignant messages of your soldiers in Iraq, who are paying -- with their blood, nerves and scattered limbs -- the price for these sorts of irresponsible statements," the transcript says.

"Among them is the eloquent message of Joshua which he sent by way of the media, in which he wipes the tears from his eyes and describes American politicians in harsh terms and invites them to join him there for a few days," the statement continues.

According to the transcript, bin Laden says there are two ways to end the war:

"The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you."

The second is to do away with the American democratic system of government. "It has now become clear to you and the entire world the impotence of the democratic system and how it plays with the interests of the peoples and their blood by sacrificing soldiers and populations to achieve the interests of the major corporations."

The rambling transcript also mentions French President Nicolas Sarkozy, which suggests the tape was made after Sarkozy's election in May.

Bin Laden comes close to offering a date for the tape with this by saying, "... just a few days ago, the Japanese observed the 62nd anniversary of the annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by your nuclear weapons." The anniversary was on August 6.

He goes on to call Noam Chomsky "among one of the most capable of those from your own side," and mentions global warming and "the Kyoto accord."

He also speaks to recent issues grabbing headlines in the United States, referring to "the reeling of many of you under the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes..."

"To conclude," bin Laden says, "I invite you to embrace Islam." He goes on to say: "There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/new-obl-tape-ir.html



Bin Laden also recommended reading books by American authors Noam Chomsky

Of course he would.

[socom6]

So bin laden is appealing to the American left with that BS speech no doubt thanks to that filthy treacherous rat Adam Ghazan... he is trying to appear cosmopolitan and statesmanlike to play on the American left's own agenda he is in essence saying the same thing they are saying, hell as another poster has already said the filthy bastard could be elected to some places in the US.

Well this may be his most dangerous speech yet. Quoting sell out authors like Chomsky and Schneuer picking at the weak kneed populace in the US he may be onto something. As far as how I see it if things were going sweet with bin laden he wouldnt be making speeches like this, the scumbag is under pressure, he is not a happy camper, airports arent been blown up, airliners arent being blown up in mid air, buildings arent coming down, wholesale massacre and mayhem isnt happening in the United States of America under his directives in the name of Allah, the bastard even had to dye his hair what a pity welcome to 2007 Mr Bin Laden.

[JJC]

Scheuer said that the next attack is almost or ready to roll and it will be much more devastating than 9/11. He might be on to something here. 6 years have past and empty threats from AQ, I'm sure sooner or later they will hit again. And I'm not so sonfident that we have made such progress in national security after 9/11.

[budgie]

Oh so bin Laden is in league with the Democrats now? Let me guess, he's funding Hilary's campaign and Gore's next film?

This message is for Muslim ears only. He cites Chomsky as an American who questions the excesses of the Bush regime; he mentions the environment and probably a muslim duty to protect God's earth: this isn't for you it is to lure moderate muslims to his cause - he needs their money to fund terror projects. AQ has always used softer rhetoric to attract recruits as well - this is the same old template.

At least I'm now convinced he's still alive. But apart from railing on the Democrats and Liberals for being in teh same camp ( a laughable notion if ever there were one) you might want to ask what the Bush regime is doing to stop him: Oh wait, I know the answer - sweet FA. Bush "doesn't really give him a lot of thought these days", remember?

[budgie]

Well at least the reference to recent events suggest bin Laden is alive: I really suspected he'd been dead for some time. Now, quick question:

Why the hell haven't we caught him???????

[I can't think of a name]

Well at least the reference to recent events suggest bin Laden is alive: I really suspected he'd been dead for some time. Now, quick question:

Why the hell haven't we caught him???????
So where do you want to invade next?

[EsoognomEhT]

Honestly it was a surprise to me that Bin Laden mentioned Noam Chomsky the (Tortsky of modern world left movement) and CIA guy Scheuer. I wonder if he had their books translated for him?


Yes, because Bin Laden is a poor moronic peasant that can't read English.

[evanfitz]

So where do you want to invade next?


No need for invasion, it was mainly used to kick out the Taliban and set up a more democratic government. No invasion force is required to kill or capture one man.
Budgie (and myself) just feel that the government hasn't put forth as much effort as it claimed in the search for Bin Laden.

[11 Bravo]

Oh This message is for Muslim ears only.



Jeez louise bird dude...go back to your paper lined birdcage already. For muslim ears only...what a toad !.

[Institutionalized]

In his latest tape, Bin Laden launches into a rant indistinguishable from any liberal democrat.

Are you suggesting that democrats are supportive of terrorism?

[xav]

U.S Officials: Voice on video belongs to bin Laden
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/07/binladen.tape/index.html

I wonder why they say the "voice" is Bin Laden's. I mean how could it be his voice but not his "body" (read himself) in the video?

@ the mods:Would a youtube type link to the video be considered propaganda like other terrorists videos? Because he does look a bit different in the video...

[Chops]

Quoting sell out authors like Schneuer

Scheuer is far from a "sell out". Go read him and Bob Baer and come back and tell me if he's a sell out. He illuminates a lot of unpalatable truths about US foreign policy for sure but does this categorise him as a "sell out"?

You can support the GWOT whilst not supporting some of the underlying policy assumptions behind it just like you can support OIF without supporting the invasion nor the logic behind it. Or at least I can.

[Don_C]

I believe he's mentioned something about global warming in his new video. Could someone elaborate?

SORRY, FOUND IT ON POST 34 :D

[Redguy]

This should be a wake up call to those favoring the "cut and run".
he lays it out plain and simple.


"The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you."

The second is to do away with the American democratic system of government. "It has now become clear to you and the entire world the impotence of the democratic system and how it plays with the interests of the peoples and their blood by sacrificing soldiers and populations to achieve the interests of the major corporations."

Either we stay and fight.
Or we leave and he brings the fight to our doorsteps, and does everything in his power to wipe out the American democratic system.

[number nine]

Or we leave and he brings the fight to our doorsteps, and does everything in his power to wipe out the American democratic system.It's irrelevant what he thinks or what he will do. He is just a murderer who was lucky enough to get his hands on powerful weapon, no different than many mujahideen in Middle East.
And message is not his. From the first day Caliphate was spreading Islam by force. In his mind and mind of people like him Holy war has never ended, they still live in seventh century.

[Institutionalized]

Regardless of what the US and our allies do in the Middle East and regardless of our political opinions and affiliations I think we can all agree that Usama Bin Laden is an A-hole that we'd all like to see hung up.
And, on a separate note, I am a democrat who has experienced terrorism first hand: I was only two blocks away from the World Trade Center when it was first attacked. I saw things that I never expected to see in the US and I am a firm supporter of the War on Terrorism and the war against Bin Laden.

[Ludipipo]

http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?autostart=false&token=f54_1189196761

[Institutionalized]

Is that the entire message?

[Freedom-Fries]

Probably to offer amnesty for us again, tell us the benefits of converting to Islam, that being non-believers is uncool, the same ol' garbage.
It is the first video in three years featuring Osama bin Laden, on the tape bin Laden is once more urging all people to become Muslims and that will create world peace

[budgie]

Jeez louise bird dude...go back to your paper lined birdcage already. For muslim ears only...what a toad !.

Thanks for the personal insult mate. Real grown up of you.

Seriously is bin Laden speaking in English? Does he really expect Americans to convert? Just like a Bush speech to Iran, he's really speaking to his own supporters. He wants to be seen saying what 'needs to be said' to his enemies.


Are you suggesting that democrats are supportive of terrorism?

That would be a first for the Republicans. Wait....


This should be a wake up call to those favoring the "cut and run".
he lays it out plain and simple. Either we stay and fight.
Or we leave and he brings the fight to our doorsteps, and does everything in his power to wipe out the American democratic system.

bin Laden will be looking for ways to attack America and the west regardless. It wasn't coalition troops in Iraq that thwarted the latest plot in Frankfurt: it was a carefully coodrinated international police and intelligence sting.

As for leaving are you even aware that UBL exorted Zarqawi and other Wahabbist followers to bring jihad to the Shiites (whom he considers apostates)? If the troops leave the civil war will continue between Sunnis and Shiites and al Qaeda in Iraq will divert its attention to that struggle.

[The_Android]

MSNBC has released the speech in PDF.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907_bin_laden_transcript.pdf

(If this is considered posting terrorist propaganda please remove the link)

[DeltaWhisky58]

Guys - no matter what your feeling on this topic, keep it clean and on topic.

Any further profane or off topic posts will receive infractions.

[The_Android]

Is that the entire message?

No, the whole video is 30 minutes long.

[Institutionalized]

No, the whole video is 30 minutes long.

Thanks. I'll try to find the rest.

[afreu]

Why would you think that the US gov is lying to us?

Yes, why would the US government or any government lie to its peple? :roll:

[Macs.]

This should be a wake up call to those favoring the "cut and run".
he lays it out plain and simple.



Either we stay and fight.
Or we leave and he brings the fight to our doorsteps, and does everything in his power to wipe out the American democratic system.

Wow, Bin Laden must be doing a real good job with his speech, here we got the first poster getting scared...

Seriously... :roll:

[Freibier]

Bin Laden needs a fashion advisor and a good shave, imho

[loserbydefault]

oh mr. goldstein is back eh? :roll:

http://www.toad.com/gnu/im-still-free-what-about-you.jpg

;)

[Redguy]

Wow, Bin Laden must be doing a real good job with his speech, here we got the first poster getting scared...

Seriously... :roll:

I'm not "scared". I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the bigger the stand we make now in Iraq, the more they'll consider the consequences of another attack.

[dangerclose]

I'm not "scared". I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the bigger the stand we make now in Iraq, the more they'll consider the consequences of another attack.


Or if we retrea ...er.. redploy from Iraq al-qaeda will stop attacking us.
And something about monkeys flying out of my butt.

You want to boost al-qaeda recruiting more than any errant airstrike or abu ghraib could? Let them chase us out of another country.

[I can't think of a name]

oh mr. goldstein is back eh? :roll:

http://www.toad.com/gnu/im-still-free-what-about-you.jpg

;)

Who is Mr. Goldstein?

[BloodyTalon]

Who is Mr. Goldstein?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

[alphabet]

America's refusal to provide adequate ground troops in the '02 Tora Bora offensive is still biting us in the butt.

[timetraveller]

This thread went downhill quick!


I Agree ..

[11 Bravo]

Thanks for the personal insult mate. Real grown up of you.

.


Your welcome chickenhawk !.

[AmericanKaliber]

What the fcuk this murderous scum wants to say now?

Same thing he always says...."AMERICANS, CONVERT TO ISLAM OR DIE".

Well i think he dosent quit relize that we are a superpower.

Damn basterd. May he rot along with his coward friends.

[ursus]

What the fcuk this murderous scum wants to say now?
Probably that he does not intend to stay behind Bush in the running for the biggest murderous scum for long. p-)

[toki]

I'm not "scared". I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the bigger the stand we make now in Iraq, the more they'll consider the consequences of another attack.

LOL.
"They" are scared. "They" as the iraqis. Or "They" as the Terrorist who live in other countries and plan suicide missions liek 9/11? Iraq as a warning to Terrorists? Nonsense.

I wonder where you got this wisdom from. :roll: