Islamic Party Established in Finland

[The_Android]

An Islamic political party has been established in Finland. Currently the party only has a few dozen members, but it aims to achieve the 5,000 signatures needed to gain a place on the official register of parties by the end of this year.

The aims of the Islamic Party include the removal of alcoholic beverages from grocery shops and kiosks, and achieving exemption for Muslim students from school subjects that they consider to be opposed to Islamic values.

Party chair Abdullah Tammi, a Finnish convert to the faith, told YLE that the fledgling party aims to gain two seats in the Helsinki city council in next year's local elections. He added the party expects support from a large proportion of Finland's estimated 30,000 to 55,000 Muslims as well as from others who shared its views, for example, on the ending of alcohol sales in grocery stores.

The party also intends to field candidates in general elections in 2011.

http://www.yle.fi/news/id69164.html

I think "the removal of alcoholic beverages from grocery shops and kiosks" is enough to never give them a chance to any success here though :lol:

[Litti]

This is the biggest joke I´ve ever seen. First of all almost all the muslims in Finland are tatars who dont give a damn about other muslims and are fully integrated to our society.

This party leader is actually a finnish convert, you can see that from his surname.

Abdullah Tammi, haha, he even changed his name. It´s like some swedish person who changes his name from Anders to Abdullah Svensson

:-D @ This party

[muck]

Where the heck do we live? In Europe?

[kosse]

Where the heck do we live? In Europe?

Exactly. Fruits of the political freedom we have. Don't like it - there's always China or NK for you. There are christian and even communist parties in Finland. Who cares, it's not like one more retarded party is going to make any difference.

[EsoognomEhT]

Abdullah Tammi, haha, he even changed his name. It´s like some swedish person who changes his name from Anders to Abdullah Svensson

:-D @ This party


rofl...........

[IronFinn]

This guy really irritates me. Being a new born muslim he decides that the name given by his parents is not good enough for the new religion. Then he desses up like he would be in desert or something.

[CPL Trevoga]

This is the biggest joke I´ve ever seen. First of all almost all the muslims in Finland are tatars who dont give a damn about other muslims and are fully integrated to our society.

This party leader is actually a finnish convert, you can see that from his surname.

Abdullah Tammi, haha, he even changed his name. It´s like some swedish person who changes his name from Anders to Abdullah Svensson

:-D @ This party

Litti, I hope you're not smoking crack my friend. Muslim converts are most dangerous fanatics. I don't understand why a generation ago Finns were fighting for a piece of swampland near Leningrad and current are way to willing commit cultural suicide.

When Saudis get a "Christian party" in their government, may be then we can
view "Muslim party" as good thing.

[Weasel]

Litti, I hope you're not smoking crack my friend. Muslim converts are most dangerous fanatics. I don't understand why a generation ago Finns were fighting for a piece of swampland near Leningrad and current are way to willing commit cultural suicide.

When Saudis get a "Christian party" in their government, may be then we can
view "Muslim party" as good thing.

All of them? :p

[CPL Trevoga]

All of them? :p

Why ask question, when you already know the answer?

[Weasel]

Why ask question, when you already know the answer?

I need to know if I have to be worried because in my country nearly 4.000 people convert to islam. Upward trend.

[CPL Trevoga]

I need to know if I have to be worried because in my country nearly 4.000 people convert to islam. Upward trend.

No, there are 90 millions of you. Finland is much, much smaller. BTW Comment about converts is from CIA report. Converts are more fanatical. Didn't they catch a few converts plotting some terrorist acts in your back of the woods a few weeks ago?

[Basillicus]

Litti, I hope you're not smoking crack my friend. Muslim converts are most dangerous fanatics. I don't understand why a generation ago Finns were fighting for a piece of swampland near Leningrad and current are way to willing commit cultural suicide.

When Saudis get a "Christian party" in their government, may be then we can
view "Muslim party" as good thing.

Lol, a bunch of retards try to form a party and you are talking about cultural suicide. I may start to get worried if the get more than one guy to the parliament, but can't see them getting trough even one anytime soon. Onlyones who would vote for them are radical muslims, and there are less than 20 000 muslims in Finland (most of whom are not radical).

[Litti]

They will never get even the required votes, so officially these four guys will be nothing more than a bunch of idiots dressed in funny costumes.


http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/id69163_1.jpg

I bet the finnish tatar muslims are laughing their ass off at these guys.
roflroflroflrofl

[Basillicus]

Then he desses up like he would be in desert or something.

It must suck during winter, you know walking around in a freezing weather wearing table clothes and towels. rofl

[Kaapeli]

They are not officially a party yet since they need 5000 signatures to sign in as one.

This isn't even the silliest party ever here. There was a "meditation party" once that wanted everyone to start doing yoga meditation and locate their inner self or some s**t. Wasn't a huge success...

[Hecatonchiros]

Does converting to Islam really require for you to start wearing a dress? I mean, this is probably the first time I've ever seen a muslim wear something like that here in Finland. Seen some burqas around (mostly when visting Helsinki), but nothing like that.

Looks effing stupid. :|

[Litti]

They are just trying to belong to something, so they make their own rules about costumes.

I wouldnt be surprised if they had their own little "muslim-language" in everyday speak. A mixture of few arabic words and finnish.

[kosse]

offtopic..

Wow, 3 topics about Finland in the upper part of the first page of political discussions & rants. We really are the chinese of the internets.

/offtopic

[Lazy Lob]

offtopic..

Wow, 3 topics about Finland in the upper part of the first page of political discussions & rants. We really are the chinese of the internets.

/offtopic

And all in English. Why do you start an English political party? p-)

You can all wear bowler hats.

[Hecatonchiros]

And all in English. Why do you start an English political party? p-)

You can all wear bowler hats.

Now THERE'S a party I'd gladly join.

http://www.campaignleadership.com/blogger/uploaded_images/winston_churchill-781556.jpg

"Hey Abdullah! Here's to you."

[kosse]

And all in English. Why do you start an English political party? p-)

You can all wear bowler hats.

We already have swedish political party and it's annoying enough :|

edit: On second thought I like hecaronttinoks' idea.

[Invisigoth]

No, there are 90 millions of you. Finland is much, much smaller. BTW Comment about converts is from CIA report. Converts are more fanatical. Didn't they catch a few converts plotting some terrorist acts in your back of the woods a few weeks ago?

Bring out the tin foil hats! The CIA said so....rofl

[muttbutt]

Does converting to Islam really require for you to start wearing a dress? I mean, this is probably the first time I've ever seen a muslim wear something like that here in Finland. Seen some burqas around (mostly when visting Helsinki), but nothing like that.

Looks effing stupid. :|
No it doesn't, but it's the same with converts of whatever ilk, they have the image of what they "think" the religion they are converting to should be like, so they go 200% overboard to fit into their own image....we see it here too, local converts walking aroung in hijabs or whatever huge beards for the men, alot of them stained with henna red, while the people who came here from Muslim countries are walking around in business suits and western gear...it's almost like geeks dressing up in costumes to fit in at a star trek convention

[Lazy Lob]

I need to know if I have to be worried because in my country nearly 4.000 people convert to islam. Upward trend.

Stats, proof or similar????


Bring out the tin foil hats! The CIA said so....rofl

Oh dear. What is it with tin foil? I know tin is coming down but are you trying to bolster its price?

Never seen tin foil as such.....................or were you trying to make a point? If so please elaborate.

[Weasel]

Stats, proof or similar????

Found this for you. The number 4.000 was in the news during the last days.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,460364,00.html

[Lazy Lob]

Found this for you. The number 4.000 was in the news during the last days.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,460364,00.html

300 to 4000? No trends? A study carried out by “carried out by the Soest-based Muslim institute Islam Archive Germany”. Any other independent “studies”?

[Weasel]

300 to 4000? No trends? A study carried out by “carried out by the Soest-based Muslim institute Islam Archive Germany”. Any other independent “studies”?

I don´t have such independent studie.

[deagle]

so they aren't officially recognized, and already they want overall lifestyle changes that impact the vast majority of the country ? c'mon now, lets get real.

if they wanted certain guidelines for their own communities fine. not like they are required to buy the alcohol.

[Jii]

I think "the removal of alcoholic beverages from grocery shops and kiosks" is enough to never give them a chance to any success here though :lol:


Yup, that pretty much sums it up.rofl

[Kippari]

I really hope that no tatar muslim or political refugee will be stupid enough to join this nonsense.:-(

On the other hand, we will atleast get a good laughs. No beer from grocerystores my ass. I'm about 100% sure that this Ab-Ivebeensmokingtoomuch-dullah Tammi character is just some ex-hippie or ex-con who is trying to find a meaning to his life. Unfortunately for him, his whole idea is born dead.rofl

Besides, those burqha models which doesn't even show womans eyes scare the **** out of me eveytime I see them. The white ones make them look like goddamn stormtroopers.:)
Having more of those here would be a big no no.

[Basillicus]

Will there be fingerfood at this party?

I don't know, but if there is it probably doesn't involv ham and you can't wash it down with alcohol so I'm not attending. p-)

[Warlord]

This is the biggest joke I´ve ever seen. First of all almost all the muslims in Finland are tatars who dont give a damn about other muslims and are fully integrated to our society.

This party leader is actually a finnish convert, you can see that from his surname.

Abdullah Tammi, haha, he even changed his name. It´s like some swedish person who changes his name from Anders to Abdullah Svensson

:-D @ This party

Converts tend to be more hardline/radical/fundamentalist than your average Muslim. Out to prove something I guess. I had a colleague who converted over the weekend, he was a completely different person when he came to work.

[BLUE THOR]

Converts tend to be more hardline/radical/fundamentalist than your average Muslim. Out to prove something I guess. I had a colleague who converted over the weekend, he was a completely different person when he came to work.

Converts or "born-agains" generally mis-fits looking for something to give them a purpose. so they tend to go head first into it.
"converted over the weekend"? literally?? or has he put some thought into it??
Does he know much about the religion?? if not, make him look like a tool by researching the Koran, then asking him what the Korans position is on things like divorce, etc..
if you dont get the right answer, in a clear loud voice tell your work-mates the right answer, then tell him hes a wannabe fukrag..
he'll probably go home and hang himself, but no great loss... p-)

[Dr_ColoSSus]

the removal of alcoholic beverages from grocery shops and kiosks" is enough to never give them a chance to any success here though


Those Maniacs....quick, Stop them before its too late.

My opinion: if muslims dont want to drink alcahol, they don't have to buy it. If Finn's wanna drink they should be able to in their own country.

[Heinemann]

These nutters want to ban alcohol yet in their paradise they have rivers flowing with wine haha!

[Jii]

Just to clarify, they want to remove alcohol from grocery stores etc, not ban it altogether. That would mean that alcohol would only be available at Alko. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alko

[Deurzakker]

So this muslim party has few dozen members? that's probably one muslim crackpot and the rest of them are undercover agents from every member of the UN...

[timetraveller]

Is it not legal for anyone no matter what religion colour or beliefs they have to start there own Political party .. no matter how many supporters they have

if it is then it would be against eveything that Western world continually speak off

Democracy .. and freedom of rights , choice .. human riights .. blah blah .. blah

Just imagine if Lord Sutch [ Monster raving Loony party ] was still alive ..

[Litti]

Here is some information about one of the founders of this party.

Translated from Finnish to English by me :


Sauli Ingman, co-founder of the Finnish Islamic party, inquired eight years ago from various international internet forums about the possibility to fight among the Dagestan and Tshetshen rebel forces.

Back then, the 37 year old Ingman asked if it was possible for him to join the Dagestan rebel muslims in their war against the "infidels of orthodox-communist-capitalist (<- wtf?) Russia"

"Where is it possible to get the required equipment and Islamic training?"
Ingman asked.

"Something has to happen and fast. Lets drive the russians out from Tshetshenia and Dagestan!!!!" Link (Finnish) : http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/Islamilaisen+puolueen+perustaja+pyrki+sotimaan+T%C5%A1et%C5%A1eniaan/1135230550433

ps. I almost forgot :


roflrofl

[theholeinthedonut]

I need to know if I have to be worried because in my country nearly 4.000 people convert to islam. Upward trend.

At least I found the proof I was looking for so long!!!!!!

[Cedan]

Party chair Abdullah Tammi, a Finnish convert to the faith,

:cantbeli::cantbeli:

we have some of these people here as well, dressing up in jihad clothes and acting like they are of mid-east descent, however I think most people just laugh at them...

[Hecatonchiros]

"Where is it possible to get the required equipment and Islamic training?" Ingman asked.

Gee, I didn't know firing an AK-47 into the air and yelling "Allāhu Akbar" requires some sort of training.

For real military training, he should have joined a real military, but I'll just bet he chose civil service or jail way back when.

[sp2c]

When Saudis get a "Christian party" in their government, may be then we can
view "Muslim party" as good thing.

yes because we all need to reach way up to the awesome high standards Saudi Arabia has set for free nations all over the world

[Mastermind]

`s~ Shhhh...you'll pi$$ the Muzzies off then there will be real trouble. Just go along with what ever they want. ~s~

[sp2c]

`s~ Shhhh...you'll pi$$ the Muzzies off then there will be real trouble. Just go along with what ever they want. ~s~

only if this party reaches an absolute majority ... but I find that unlikely

[Mastermind]

I was appalled when a Muzzie ran for US Congress and won....

Oh, well....what's next? 2 of them? ten of them? a hundred, perhaps?....who knows?

Every struggle may begin with the lifting of but a single eyebrow.

[Litti]

Yes. YES! It is always very appalling when the wrong candidate wins. That sort of action should be banned. Only then we could really reap the benefits of free democracy.

[AgentX]

Kill the idea before it matures. Kill it with fire!

[Litti]

Didnt work with Darth Vader. And these guys are just as serious about their own thing when compared to all those Star Wars fanboys.